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Moreso than the in-ring ability is how the matches fall apart because she bows up to the other workers in the match, when she should be selling, in essence removing the story of the match itself as if to say "if this wasn't a work I would kick everyone's ass". Is the point to having Marina on the roster a chess move to be able to convince Roderick Strong to sign when he becomes available? Tony Khan might be one of those complete-set chasers for modern day, and he needs a Roddy action figure to put in the same display case as Fish, O'Reilly and Cole.
In some ways it's humorous to see the potential for WWE/AEW talent switching sides, such as Strong and Damon Kemp facing the Creed Bros. and Strong slowly seeing his mind games don't motivate the Creeds anymore, and the training dedication aspects could be assumed by Ivy Nile in a one-week turnaround, since they have built that quality in her through vignettes.
I think the pairing with Nyla Rose is going to be about the most they can get out of Shafir, and the speculation about why she is featured will be seen if Strong becomes availabke and gets signed with AEW.
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Moreso than the in-ring ability is how the matches fall apart because she bows up to the other workers in the match, when she should be selling, in essence removing the story of the match itself as if to say "if this wasn't a work I would kick everyone's ass". Is the point to having Marina on the roster a chess move to be able to convince Roderick Strong to sign when he becomes available? Tony Khan might be one of those complete-set chasers for modern day, and he needs a Roddy action figure to put in the same display case as Fish, O'Reilly and Cole.
In some ways it's humorous to see the potential for WWE/AEW talent switching sides, such as Strong and Damon Kemp facing the Creed Bros. and Strong slowly seeing his mind games don't motivate the Creeds anymore, and the training dedication aspects could be assumed by Ivy Nile in a one-week turnaround, since they have built that quality in her through vignettes.
I think the pairing with Nyla Rose is going to be about the most they can get out of Shafir, and the speculation about why she is featured will be seen if Strong becomes availabke and gets signed with AEW.
AEW doesn’t need Marina to get Strong. That was a done deal. Strong requested his release and was going to be in AEW already, but WWE won’t grant it. He’ll move as soon as he can, although I can’t see what he would add to the roster at this point. He’s a great worker but with no personality to stand out on that crowded roster.
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Halfway through Wednesday's show and taking a break now.
Street fight, though I really think they've cooled down Wardlow since he beat MFJ. Scorpio took a lot of bumps for a supposedly injured guy.
Tag match was a complete mess for whatever reason. They are much better than that but something was badly off.
Christian is great.
Dark Order... I can't imagine anyone who hasn't been watching AEW since day one giving a shit about this group.
It looks like this Jericho- Kingston thing is going to go on forever... The arm spot with Soho was silly.
At least JR wasn't involved so far, I'm sure he's coming out soon for the second half.
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Finished off the show. I must say I'm liking some of Moxley's matches lately and that one was pretty damn good, even if the result wasn't in doubt.
I didn't think the show was much good overall but I did laugh at Danhausen.
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ROH World champion Jonathan Gresham turned heel tonight on Rampage, joining Tully Blanchard’s stable. This sets up Gresham vs. Lee Moriarty for the title at Death Before Dishonor. I’m not sure the point of turning Gresham heel so soon after Lethal turned heel on him, but we’ll see where it goes.
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Tully Blanchard now has Jonathan Gresham under his advisement after Gresham walked out on Lee Moriarty in their tag match. Tully could be the new Fred Blassie if his interviews help get talents over and he gains heat just from being a sneaky ringside presence but not bumping himself
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AEW has trademarked “Captain Insano”, Paul Wight’s character in “The Waterboy” 25 years ago. The expectation is for Wight to have a match using that gimmick. Adam Sandler co-wrote the movie in addition to starring in it and he has signed off.
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On a recent podcast, Konnan confirmed rumors that Santana and Ortiz “are not on good terms”. This comes after months of speculation that the team isn’t getting along in real life and don’t really speak anymore unless it’s necessary for the match. The two still occasionally team in AEW but Ortiz has been getting more singles matches while Santana mostly sits on the sidelines. On the indy scene, they almost exclusively book themselves as singles now and rarely appear on the same shows. Ruby Riott, in character on Dynamite, mentioned that Eddie Kingston is very close to Jon Moxley and Ortiz but didn’t mention Santana. Santana has tweeted a countdown clock to the end of his AEW contract and all signs point towards him leaving and Ortiz remaining. Ortiz is the one who got the big hair vs. hair singles match against Chris Jericho and has been winning Dark matches, and AEW supposedly has plans for him in the future. Santana seems to have alienated himself from everyone and is on his way out. There hasn’t even been a hint of a break-up on TV though, other than Ortiz just doing more of his own thing.
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Is the Dynamite crowd dead or what? That first match was MUCH BETTER than I thought it would be and I was close to turning it off early.
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I liked the backstage promo where Thunder Rosa and Toni Storm were interrupted by Dr. Britt Baker and Jamie Hayter with Rebel. Mocking the new team "Thunderstorm" Baker said it was a natural disaster whose flooding could be contained, by... a sandbag. Great way to play off the Rosa-Marina Shafir scuttlebutt with some humor.
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I didn't like that for a few reasons, the biggest one being that Rosa starts the promos beaming, smiling from ear to ear despite having just been beaten in Japan.
The sandbag thing...didnt do much for me either.
To be honest nearly everything in between the matches is really not much better than the fake shitty wwe 'skits'. Same for Anna Jay and Tay backstage.
But some of the matches are very good. Mox and Takeshita was very good at times and I really like Takeshita. The women's match was good. Claudio v Hager was good. Luchasaurus match was good. But it's sandwiched by dreck most of the time.
I've been liking Rampage more lately because there's just less of that shit to listen to.
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I have not watched tag match yet.
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I don't care about Orange Cassidy not caring about anything, and putting him in title bouts should be left instead to the guys who come across as being competitive. TBS apparently likes having him on their shows, but he should be slotted like a Jimmy Valiant.
Christian Cage is doing some of his best career work. He's got the Gary Sinise face, one you expect to be disliking in whatever role he's in.
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
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Ive listened to 2 podcast segments recently where Kenny had complained about fans essentially not liking things he likes. Is this par for the course with him or are his feelings getting more delicate as he gets older?
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
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<a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote:
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
Even in WWE, size only matters when they want it to. Big guys come in unstoppable and within 6 months are jobbing to everyone. The Big Show jobbed to the entire roster 5 times over, from Rey Misterio to Jeff Hardy and everyone in between. Great Khali was too big for The Undertaker to do anything with, then the next year was jobbing to Fandango. Size is a gimmick like anything else, and when the gimmick runs its course, it's over.
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The tag match had a really good finish where I genuinely didn't know who was going to win
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
I guess you're right. The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's a bad thing. Obviously a lot of fans think it's a good thing or maybe don't care about it so it does no harm to their enjoyment.
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The Briscoes and FTR sat down with Caprice Coleman for a 5-minute segment where FTR proposed a 2/3 falls stipulation to put to rest the notion their previous match result was a fluke. Short and sweet.
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The Briscoes and FTR sat down with Caprice Coleman for a 5-minute segment where FTR proposed a 2/3 falls stipulation to put to rest the notion their previous match result was a fluke. Short and sweet.
<A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g768IunwEd0" TARGET="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g768IunwEd0A>
I enjoyed that. Very simple and effective build. I wish they could’ve spared 5 minutes on Dynamite or Rampage to air that.
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I'm looking forward to the PPV. The last match between them is the best match I've seen in a long time. Lethal V Joe should be be good. And I think the Yuta match has potential to be great.
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Gresham vs. Castagnoli is an unexpected and strange main event. 2 different eras of ROH colliding. Castagnoli was never a main eventer or singles champion there but is the much bigger star now. He’s new to AEW and coming in on top, so it’s hard to imagine him jobbing. But I also don’t like the idea of them taking the belt off of Gresham so quickly when they really need to establish him for the majority of fans not very familiar with him. Either way, should be a great match. I just don’t know how you book it.
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Yes, I'd never seen Gresham before AEW and he is tremendous.
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FTR has a pretty cool new shirt out with 7 different colored stripes, with each stripe representing the color of the company they’ve won titles in (in order):
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Gresham is booked next week Friday at the show that's part of the Tragos-Thesz HOF weekend in Waterloo; I am not sure of the opponent there, but that's a good bit of timing for the museum to get someone with a big PPV match pending.
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Has anyone seen the FTR v American Wolves match from a week or so ago? Happened on some indy in West Virginia.
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Has anyone seen the FTR v American Wolves match from a week or so ago? Happened on some indy in West Virginia.
Link? IMO Eddie Edwards has looked horrible the past few years so I’m wondering if he can still keep up.
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Has anyone seen the FTR v American Wolves match from a week or so ago? Happened on some indy in West Virginia.
Link? IMO Eddie Edwards has looked horrible the past few years so I’m wondering if he can still keep up.
This appears to be a fan cam version of it.
<A HREF="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dg" TARGET="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dgA>
Originally i was asking because i didn't know where to find it, Ill check it out later tonight.
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Has anyone seen the FTR v American Wolves match from a week or so ago? Happened on some indy in West Virginia.
Link? IMO Eddie Edwards has looked horrible the past few years so I’m wondering if he can still keep up.
This appears to be a fan cam version of it.
<A HREF="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dg" TARGET="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dgA>
Originally i was asking because i didn't know where to find it, Ill check it out later tonight.
Watching it now. Dennis Condrey walks out with FTR.
This is a lot to give away on a random West Virginia indy. I hope they all made some money, especially since for the Wolves it destroys their Impact continuity.
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Has anyone seen the FTR v American Wolves match from a week or so ago? Happened on some indy in West Virginia.
Link? IMO Eddie Edwards has looked horrible the past few years so I’m wondering if he can still keep up.
This appears to be a fan cam version of it.
<A HREF="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dg" TARGET="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dgA>
Originally i was asking because i didn't know where to find it, Ill check it out later tonight.
Watching it now. Dennis Condrey walks out with FTR.
This is a lot to give away on a random West Virginia indy. I hope they all made some money, especially since for the Wolves it destroys their Impact continuity.
Decent match, very basic and fundamentally sound. Richards looked fantastic.
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Thunder Rosa did an interview comparing her rivalry with Britt Baker to the Austin-Rock rivalry. When Baker was asked about it, she savaged Rosa in a way that didn’t seem to be in character at all.
“I think Thunder Rosa should talk the least amount possible in wrestling and in interviews and in everything and the world would be a better place because she sounds stupid all the time when she says anything. That’s what I think. No, I don’t compare myself to people like The Rock and Austin or anything like that. In-character, sure, I think I’m better. Dr. Britt Baker D.M.D. is better than anybody but when we’re talking realistic storyline settings, I don’t think anything right now that I could do would be at that level. Someday? I hope so, maybe and I hope and pray that I can have that type of impact on the wrestling world but, Thunder Rosa, most of the time when she opens her mouth, something stupid comes out.”
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If the JAS could have fit thru the bars the entire time why didn't they do it sooner, hang and drop down? They weren't that high up.
The Jericho / Kingston match was ok it, they had some issues at the end there with kingston missing the backfist thing. Nice touch though having everything wrapped in barbed wire.
Im pretty casual with my viewing and i could be wrong but it always seems to me that these bigger gimmick matches come up short.
Britt was dragging Rosa on Dynamite
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I have seen more of Rosa's Vlog adventures going from one market to the next than I have of Baker's media appearances, but I am more interested to hear Rosa's presentation. Rosa's promos don't sound slick and programmed, but I like the passion and determination to make the most of the time she's been given on top. Baker is doing the same routine after more than a year, from as much as I have seen, and if she's really invested in developing to become a mega-star, rather than being a Dentist On Demand, I would want her to try to match Rosa's intensity.
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I have seen more of Rosa's Vlog adventures going from one market to the next than I have of Baker's media appearances, but I am more interested to hear Rosa's presentation. Rosa's promos don't sound slick and programmed, but I like the passion and determination to make the most of the time she's been given on top. Baker is doing the same routine after more than a year, from as much as I have seen, and if she's really invested in developing to become a mega-star, rather than being a Dentist On Demand, I would want her to try to match Rosa's intensity.
Read between the lines here - this was Britt Baker’s way of calling Rosa a total mark for herself but Britt wouldn’t go so far as to say it outright because as a human she is above that. You can say that Britt’s character is stale, but it’s really not. Just like any “women’s division”, there are only so many wrestlers to go through before you run out of new opponents. Britt has beaten almost all of them. Someday, Britt vs Jade will headline Dynamite or Thunder or whatever the fuck they call Friday Night.
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I'm in the minority because the phrase "mark for yourself" comes too often out of the mouths of people who create their own rules for acceptable behavior and then want it followed, rather than just do their own thing. Rosa's itinerary has her repping the company and belt at every turn, no matter how big or small. AEW can benefit from someone on top with a success story and is approachable in a way that Baker's Mean Girl persona can't be. No argument that there is lots of room for improvement on all sides.
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I'm in the minority because the phrase "mark for yourself" comes too often out of the mouths of people who create their own rules for acceptable behavior and then want it followed, rather than just do their own thing. Rosa's itinerary has her repping the company and belt at every turn, no matter how big or small. AEW can benefit from someone on top with a success story and is approachable in a way that Baker's Mean Girl persona can't be. No argument that there is lots of room for improvement on all sides.
I agree with you about how Rosa's character really resonates with the people, and she's doing a great job of repping the company and the belt. Britt Baker did just as well repping the company and the belt, but as you say, it's tough to be a heel on TV and a face while at public events because it just doesn't mesh. What do I love about Rosa? Nothing other than the fact that she is very believable in the ring. When she wrestles, pretty much everything she does looks legit. But on the mic she is weak. Her profile got raised up to the top of the pile because of the bloodbath she had with Britt Baker, and there is no question about that. She was NWA Women's Champ until the pandemic, and if I'm not mistaken she lost that strap to Serena Deeb at the time or something. It's hard not to have a great match with Deeb, she's technically one of the best going right now based on all the years she's put in.
You are so correct on your last statement - lots of room for improvement on both sides.
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If there’s one thing wrestling has taught me, it’s that women cannot figure out locks.
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The Anna Jay turn seems to me that they want a female presence in JAS they trust in the ring. Tay Conti won't be removed but she needs to up her game to be considered for anything else in their gameplans beyond being Sammy's girl.
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The Anna Jay turn seems to me that they want a female presence in JAS they trust in the ring. Tay Conti won't be removed but she needs to up her game to be considered for anything else in their gameplans beyond being Sammy's girl.
Conti was atrocious in NXT. I thought I saw some improvement during her AEW run but that’s stalled or regressed as she’s become more Sammy’s girl and less a wrestler.
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Based on Dax’s promo last night, AEW had officially released “Fight Like an 8-Year Old Girl” T-shirts with 100% of the proceeds being donated to the American Heart Association.
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Austin Gunn’s rap on Max Caster:
“I’m not scared of you mister
How would I be scared of one of Bobby Lashley’s sisters?
Here’s a secret, you dated Kriss Stat
Let me tell you where you went wrong with that
I’ll give you all a teaser
It’s because Edward Scissorhands over here couldn’t please her
Now before you talk about Daddy Ass, your dad is Rich Caster
How about we talk about which daddy’s career ended faster
He played tight end, Bowens is that giving you a fever?
When you two role play, is that why you’re always the wide receiver?
Right here in Georgia
Have a great day and I got 2 words for ya
I’d say stick to rap but you ain’t even good at that
Oh by the way John Cena wants his gimmick back”
Caster won the rap battle and his delivery was clearly better, but Austin had much better lines. His best line was:
“You tried to work in ROH but your ass couldn’t
Tony Khan bought the whole company just to burn your match footage”
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Jon Moxley has been named the official spokesperson for Athletic Brewing Company, which makes non-alcoholic craft beer. Moxley started drinking it after getting out of rehab and the company saw him using their products and have now hired him to be part of their marketing campaign.
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If there’s one thing wrestling has taught me, it’s that women cannot figure out locks.
Lol. Just watched the show. Some very good matches and then an abortion of a main event
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Austin Gunn’s rap on Max Caster:
“I’m not scared of you mister
How would I be scared of one of Bobby Lashley’s sisters?
Here’s a secret, you dated Kriss Stat
Let me tell you where you went wrong with that
I’ll give you all a teaser
It’s because Edward Scissorhands over here couldn’t please her
Now before you talk about Daddy Ass, your dad is Rich Caster
How about we talk about which daddy’s career ended faster
He played tight end, Bowens is that giving you a fever?
When you two role play, is that why you’re always the wide receiver?
Right here in Georgia
Have a great day and I got 2 words for ya
I’d say stick to rap but you ain’t even good at that
Oh by the way John Cena wants his gimmick back”
Caster won the rap battle and his delivery was clearly better, but Austin had much better lines. His best line was:
“You tried to work in ROH but your ass couldn’t
Tony Khan bought the whole company just to burn your match footage”
I wonder who wrote it? It was good stuff out of Austin.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
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Not sure what happened with Tully Blanchard but he seems to be gone. Prince Nana made a surprise appearance on the ROH pre-show and announced that he has purchased Tully Blanchard Enterprises and is now managing Gresham, Cage, and the Gates of Agony. The Embassy is back.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
Yeah, that was done well to be fair but it was of no interest to me.In more recent years they have has Bad Bunny, another guy I never heard of.
On Dynamite the live crowd seemed to not give a shit when Swerve was talking about some guy's new album.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
Yeah, that was done well to be fair but it was of no interest to me.In more recent years they have has Bad Bunny, another guy I never heard of.
On Dynamite the live crowd seemed to not give a shit when Swerve was talking about some guy's new album.
I never heard of Bad Bunny before either, but if you want to draw younger fans who can't just give up on anyone that old farts under 50 never heard of. Bad Bunny sells out stadiums every summer and just got the biggest pop at the MLB Celebrity All-Star Softball Game (The Miz was MVP for that game btw), so he has massive mainstream appeal.
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I won't start a new thread for Death Before Dishonr, but I finished the show and my biggest gripe is that it was once again a 1 match show revolving around FTR and the Briscoes. They went 45-minutes in a 2-out-of-3 falls MOTY candidate.
Other than that...nada. They started the show with the main event of Gresham vs. Claudio and gave them about 12 minutes. I was so disappointed in that. It was a good match, but it could've been on Rampage. It was not an ROH World title caliber match even though they could've easily delivered at that level.
AEW never phones it in with matches on their own PPVs. Even mid-card matches sometimes get way too much time as the whole show runs 4+ hours. Overkill. With ROH, TK goes the opposite direction and cuts everyone's time short except for FTR and the Briscoes.
The only other highlight was Regal's commentary on 2 matches, which was phenomenal. Regal is the 2nd best color commentator in the business right now behind only Taz, and he just started calling the odd match again a few weeks ago after not doing it for almost 10 years.
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Injury update on CM Punk isn't very good.
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AEW Champion CM Punk stated at San Diego Comic-Con during an AEW panel last night that his foot is still healing after being "shattered" at AEW's Los Angeles debut Dynamite and undergoing surgery. Punk stated that he is re-learning how to walk after the surgery and there is no time table for his return to the ring.
One source who who working backstage at SDCC said they crossed paths with AEW talents across the last several days multiple times and it was obvious how much pain Punk was in while moving around and that they saw him icing his foot multiple times in backstage areas while sitting in between appearances.
Punk was wearing a walking boot while appearing at the SDCC events.
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I won't start a new thread for Death Before Dishonr, but I finished the show and my biggest gripe is that it was once again a 1 match show revolving around FTR and the Briscoes. They went 45-minutes in a 2-out-of-3 falls MOTY candidate.
Other than that...nada. They started the show with the main event of Gresham vs. Claudio and gave them about 12 minutes. I was so disappointed in that. It was a good match, but it could've been on Rampage. It was not an ROH World title caliber match even though they could've easily delivered at that level.
AEW never phones it in with matches on their own PPVs. Even mid-card matches sometimes get way too much time as the whole show runs 4+ hours. Overkill. With ROH, TK goes the opposite direction and cuts everyone's time short except for FTR and the Briscoes.
The only other highlight was Regal's commentary on 2 matches, which was phenomenal. Regal is the 2nd best color commentator in the business right now behind only Taz, and he just started calling the odd match again a few weeks ago after not doing it for almost 10 years.
The Claudio/Gresham size differential was too much for me to take seriously. Decent enough match but aew had already taped dark or something with Gresham without the belt, so I didn’t think the outcome was in jeopardy.
Six man was fun if you like castle and the boys, god shenanigans. Yuta and Garcia was pretty good. I also really liked rush and dragon Lee. The six man match on the preshow with the embassy v deppen/zayne/Christian was pretty fun.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
And even worse. The guy with zero experience in the ring going over one of the biggest baddest men in the business. Cleanly. WWF wrestlers were meant to be the toughest dudes on the planet and one couldn't even pin a retired gridiron player? What message is THAT sending? "The WWF champion might be able to hang with Joe Namath for a few seconds"?
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
And even worse. The guy with zero experience in the ring going over one of the biggest baddest men in the business. Cleanly. WWF wrestlers were meant to be the toughest dudes on the planet and one couldn't even pin a retired gridiron player? What message is THAT sending? "The WWF champion might be able to hang with Joe Namath for a few seconds"?
I get what you’re saying but Bigelow was on his way out. If you’re going to get jobbed out, might as well get jobbed out in the main event of WM to a big mainstream name.
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I don't blame Bigelow for taking a big pay day, I blame McMahon for continually booking wrestlers to look worse than non-wrestlers. It's the biggest kayfabe-buster possible. If wrestling were genuinely the biggest toughest on the planet, how come one jobbed to a non-wrestler in his only match? Makes the entire roster look like pussies.
I mean, if they had booked it into a corner that Bigelow had to do the job, how hard was it to write an outside-interference-gone-wrong?
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Not sure what happened with Tully Blanchard but he seems to be gone. Prince Nana made a surprise appearance on the ROH pre-show and announced that he has purchased Tully Blanchard Enterprises and is now managing Gresham, Cage, and the Gates of Agony. The Embassy is back.
Fightful confirms that Tully is gone from ROH/AEW. Not sure why.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
And even worse. The guy with zero experience in the ring going over one of the biggest baddest men in the business. Cleanly. WWF wrestlers were meant to be the toughest dudes on the planet and one couldn't even pin a retired gridiron player? What message is THAT sending? "The WWF champion might be able to hang with Joe Namath for a few seconds"?
I get what you’re saying but Bigelow was on his way out. If you’re going to get jobbed out, might as well get jobbed out in the main event of WM to a big mainstream name.
But he wasn't a big mainstream name. That's my whole point. Most wrestling fans outside of the US and Canada have no idea who these people are. I have never once seen LT play football, and if it wasn't for his time in WWF, I wouldn't know who he was at all. Imagine they did the same angle with a Scottish rugby player.
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
I guess you're right. The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's a bad thing. Obviously a lot of fans think it's a good thing or maybe don't care about it so it does no harm to their enjoyment.
Gresham probably wishes height didn't matter
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
I guess you're right. The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's a bad thing. Obviously a lot of fans think it's a good thing or maybe don't care about it so it does no harm to their enjoyment.
Gresham probably wishes height didn't matter
It really doesn't, but Gresham thinks it does. My biggest problem was the octopus mask that was never explained in Impact or AEW. They never explained the flag, or what The Foundation was. It's a complete indie thing to come out with an "interesting" costume for no reason. Sammy Guevara dropped the Panda head very early in his AEW run, and even Vader's helmet was pretty daft (maybe not by 90s wrestling standards) and he stopped wearing it eventually. Remember Mantaur?
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
I guess you're right. The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's a bad thing. Obviously a lot of fans think it's a good thing or maybe don't care about it so it does no harm to their enjoyment.
Gresham probably wishes height didn't matter
It really doesn't, but Gresham thinks it does. My biggest problem was the octopus mask that was never explained in Impact or AEW. They never explained the flag, or what The Foundation was. It's a complete indie thing to come out with an "interesting" costume for no reason. Sammy Guevara dropped the Panda head very early in his AEW run, and even Vader's helmet was pretty daft (maybe not by 90s wrestling standards) and he stopped wearing it eventually. Remember Mantaur?
Gresham is billed at 5’4” which is shorter than Mysterio jr’s billed height and being a flyer Rey was able to hide some of his physical limitations but Gresham is all about his ground game and i dont see as many people being able to over look it.
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Gresham did look tiny in the ring with Claudio. Claudio is, what, 6 feet 4?
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Is he REALLY 5'4"? I mean, I think Jordynne Grace is bigger than that. And that's shorter than Taz too.
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Is he REALLY 5'4"? I mean, I think Jordynne Grace is bigger than that. And that's shorter than Taz too.
She is listed at 5’3”
Taz 5’ 9”
Rey 5’6”
Im getting all of these from wikipedia
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Gresham looks shorter than Rey to me. He’s also roided to the gills packing that much muscle into an incredibly tiny frame.
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I won't start a new thread for Death Before Dishonr, but I finished the show and my biggest gripe is that it was once again a 1 match show revolving around FTR and the Briscoes. They went 45-minutes in a 2-out-of-3 falls MOTY candidate.
Other than that...nada. They started the show with the main event of Gresham vs. Claudio and gave them about 12 minutes. I was so disappointed in that. It was a good match, but it could've been on Rampage. It was not an ROH World title caliber match even though they could've easily delivered at that level.
AEW never phones it in with matches on their own PPVs. Even mid-card matches sometimes get way too much time as the whole show runs 4+ hours. Overkill. With ROH, TK goes the opposite direction and cuts everyone's time short except for FTR and the Briscoes.
The only other highlight was Regal's commentary on 2 matches, which was phenomenal. Regal is the 2nd best color commentator in the business right now behind only Taz, and he just started calling the odd match again a few weeks ago after not doing it for almost 10 years.
I just watched the show.
Main event was off the charts again. Might have been better than the first one, which was the best match I think I've seen since I started watching wrestling again.
I agree the World Title match was a letdown. I thought it was good but I'd hoped it would be great. And thought it would be longer.
Joe and Lethal was good.
I thought Yuta and Garcia was tremendous, I don't know if I'm in the minority but Garcia really impresses me when I see him away from all that JAS shite.
I enjoyed the show overall.
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Okay. I think I'm over Slim J getting me so annoyed I posted in the wrong thread.
From the files of my "matches from Dark and Elevation that you should watch"... Emi Sakura and Toni Storm had one of the best women's matches in AEW's history on Elevation on Monday night.
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By contrast, I thought Marina Shafir stunk up the tag match with Nyla Rose yet again. Even the commentators have to spin her wonky mannerisms as something unique and hard to strategize against. Nyla will have to turn face to get out of this unfortunate booking.
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Marina Shafir is one of the worst 'name' wrestlers I've ever seen. She shouldn't be on television. Or YouTube. Or anything else.
I'm skipping any of them anymore.
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Okay. I think I'm over Slim J getting me so annoyed I posted in the wrong thread.
The Orlando audience (all 100 of them) on Dark shit all over the new "Trust Fund" Ari Daivari gimmick (the "richest man in all of pro wrestling") when he was being interviewed in the ring by Tony Shiavone. "We don't care" chants and the first "boring" chant I can remember for many a year. The strangest part was that they focused on people in the crowd pretending to fall asleep, so I guess they know that this is a non-starter. This is the second time, after Lio Rush, that they have crashed and burned with a heel rich-kid character. I really with that AEW didn't sign all these wrestlers from the WWE scrap-heap. Use what you have, or bring in exciting indie guys.
I'm enjoying the title defences they've been including on Dark the last couple of weeks. I've got no problem with the All-Atlantic title if we get to see PAC defending the title all over world. The women's match from last week was very good as well, and rematch tonight should be great with the big crowd.
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I've seen AEW crowds dead and disinterested. I don't remember seeing them actively telling the promotion to fuck off with an angle or promo, the way you describe.
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Okay. I think I'm over Slim J getting me so annoyed I posted in the wrong thread.
The Orlando audience (all 100 of them) on Dark shit all over the new "Trust Fund" Ari Daivari gimmick (the "richest man in all of pro wrestling") when he was being interviewed in the ring by Tony Shiavone. "We don't care" chants and the first "boring" chant I can remember for many a year. The strangest part was that they focused on people in the crowd pretending to fall asleep, so I guess they know that this is a non-starter.
It sounds like they were encouraging the fans to act that way, they might have even told them to off-camera.
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The Mrs mentioned during Dynamite that she noticed the guy with box on his head sitting on the front row the past few weeks with the slow motion applause. It appears to the same guy every week because of the height and build being consistent. She also noticed that he is wearing very flashy sport coats. Anybody want to guess that it is one Maxwell Jacob Friedman under the box this whole time?
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The Mrs mentioned during Dynamite that she noticed the guy with box on his head sitting on the front row the past few weeks with the slow motion applause. It appears to the same guy every week because of the height and build being consistent. She also noticed that he is wearing very flashy sport coats. Anybody want to guess that it is one Maxwell Jacob Friedman under the box this whole time?
It's Kip Sabian. He's been doing this since before MJF left.
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From a Road Dogg interview this week:
"I'm not retired, I'm unemployed. I see things on Tony Khan's TV show that appal me. I could help with that. I have been begging him for a job on every platform I can and I want to know the reason why he won't hire me."
Pathetic. I'll drink his tears.
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From a Road Dogg interview this week:
"I'm not retired, I'm unemployed. I see things on Tony Khan's TV show that appal me. I could help with that. I have been begging him for a job on every platform I can and I want to know the reason why he won't hire me."
Pathetic. I'll drink his tears.
Well maybe you should stop saying that the company you want to hire you appalls you. Rarely a good way to start a job interview. That's my free HR advice for the day.
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Some very good matches on that show, especially the main event. Danielson is so good it's scary. All round there's nobody better than him.
I don't know what everyone here thinks of him but the last 3 or 4 Garcia matches have all been tremendous. I know I've heard Cornette say he's useless but Cornette is wrong. He's very, very good already, he looks real in the ring and has real heel heat in the ring. Promos haven't been great.
Good show, despite a Chris Jericho. And great to hear aew will soon have a new tournament for a new champsionship (which I will likely skip entirely).
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And great to hear aew will soon have a new tournament for a new champsionship (which I will likely skip entirely).
This heralds the return of Kenny Omega, and likely is leading us to a final of Kenny & The Bucks vs Adam Cole & reDragon. Whatever you think about the need for a trios title, that match will be tremendous. With the House of Black and Death Triangle also likely in the tournament, I can't wait.
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And great to hear aew will soon have a new tournament for a new champsionship (which I will likely skip entirely).
This heralds the return of Kenny Omega, and likely is leading us to a final of Kenny & The Bucks vs Adam Cole & reDragon. Whatever you think about the need for a trios title, that match will be tremendous. With the House of Black and Death Triangle also likely in the tournament, I can't wait.
Agreed on all points. As soon as they announced the trios titles I knew Kenny’s return was imminent. They have plenty of talent and factions to warrant this title and should provide some great matches. Hopefully this is the last championship they add though, but I have been looking forward to this tournament for some time.
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I think there's already far too many titles.
I don't like six man matches for the most part but they are a regular feature on AEW, people like them and I have no real problem with them having a title for it,aaide from the fact there are about twenty championships already featured regularly.
And I also presume this will mean Omega back with the Bucks,though they teased something else in last night's show.
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Here is an ROH subgenre post from Stokely Hathaway's Twitter and a response featuring Wheeler Yuta, William Regal and Isaiah Kassidy.
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The Acclaimed had a great followup from their last music video with "Trash Day" which challenges The Gunn Club to a dumpster match next week on Dynamite.
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I think there's already far too many titles.
I don't like six man matches for the most part but they are a regular feature on AEW, people like them and I have no real problem with them having a title for it,aaide from the fact there are about twenty championships already featured regularly.
And I also presume this will mean Omega back with the Bucks,though they teased something else in last night's show.
Tag matches in general are my favorite matches and i really enjoy a good 6 man tag so if they can make this work ill be tuning in.
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The weekly HEY-EW episode with RJ City has William Regal as a guest. All the recent podcast content of Regal's enjoyment with being reactionary in his presentation is on display opposite the host, who seems to be doing an Ethel Merman gimmick. A fun chess match until they find a common ground to pull off a duet about Coronation Street.
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John Cena was photographed at this past week’s Dynamite outside of Boston. It was John Cena, Sr. though.
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Okay. I think I'm over Slim J getting me so annoyed I posted in the wrong thread.
The Orlando audience (all 100 of them) on Dark shit all over the new "Trust Fund" Ari Daivari gimmick (the "richest man in all of pro wrestling") when he was being interviewed in the ring by Tony Shiavone. "We don't care" chants and the first "boring" chant I can remember for many a year. The strangest part was that they focused on people in the crowd pretending to fall asleep, so I guess they know that this is a non-starter.
It sounds like they were encouraging the fans to act that way, they might have even told them to off-camera.
The Trustbusters stable is now Ari Daivari, Slim J and Parker Boudreaux. Still being shit on by the audience. Ari Daivari seems to be Tony Khan in the way Ted DiBiase was Vince McMahon. He is building a worse stable than the Million Dollar Corporation, if you can believe that.
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The Mrs mentioned during Dynamite that she noticed the guy with box on his head sitting on the front row the past few weeks with the slow motion applause. It appears to the same guy every week because of the height and build being consistent. She also noticed that he is wearing very flashy sport coats. Anybody want to guess that it is one Maxwell Jacob Friedman under the box this whole time?
It's Kip Sabian. He's been doing this since before MJF left.
In the "PAC on tour" match from RevPro on last night's Dark, the man wearing the box was at ringside and Excalibur identified him as Kip Sabian, although Taz was sceptical.
This was another very good match. With PAC only part-time in the US, this is a great way to keep him on their shows and give a special meaning to the All-Atlantic Title.
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AEW ANNOUNCES EXPANSION OF TALENT RELATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM
-- Roles for Sonjay Dutt, QT Marshall, Pat Buck and Tony Schiavone will Increase Under Expanded Talent Relations Team; Madison Rayne Joining to Coach Women’s Division
August 3, 2022 – AEW CEO, GM and Head of Creative Tony Khan announced an expansion to AEW’s talent relations team with the promotions of key staff members including Sonjay Dutt, QT Marshall, Pat Buck and Tony Schiavone. In addition, Madison Rayne will join AEW as a coach in the women’s division.
As AEW continues its meteoric rise, the expanded talent relations team will strengthen the infrastructure required to facilitate the development, health and safety of AEW’s outstanding roster. The following promotions and additions are effective immediately:
Sonjay Dutt (Retesh Bhalla) has been promoted to Vice President of Production and Creative Coordination. In this role, he will coordinate communication of AEW storylines, liaise between post-production and key staff to maintain content workflow, produce ancillary content and mentor new producers. Dutt joined AEW in 2021, bringing more than 20 years of experience in professional wrestling – both in-ring and as a producer – and continues to serve on-screen as manager to Satnam Singh and Jay Lethal.
QT Marshall (Michael Cuellari) has been promoted to Vice President of Show and Creative Coordination. He will help to manage show elements including planning programs and storylines, character development, overseeing extras and live event logistics coordination. Marshall, an AEW original with more than 20 years of experience, will continue to wrestle as the leader of The Factory with Anthony Ogogo, Nick Comoroto, Aaron Solo and Cole Karter.
Pat Buck (Pat Buckridge) has been promoted to Vice President of Talent Development. In this position, he will liaise with talent and production, oversee all coaches, provide input on matches and promos, and lead the talent relations team. Buck brings nearly two decades of experience serving wrestling promotions as a talent, trainer, producer and promoter.
Tony Schiavone has been promoted to Senior Producer and Special Advisor to Talent. In this capacity, he will work directly with talent as part of the Talent Relations team. Schiavone is one of AEW’s most tenured members and has nearly 40 years of experience, with an iconic voice that has guided fans through professional wrestling’s most incredible moments.
Madison Rayne (Ashley Nichole Lomberger) will join AEW as a coach in the women’s division, and kick-off her new role tonight in her hometown of Columbus, Ohio. Madison has competed in numerous professional wrestling promotions where she has held multiple championship titles, including 5-time Women’s World Champion. She has more than 15 years of experience in professional wrestling, and is also a proud mom to a daughter.
Christopher Daniels, an AEW original who brings more than 30 years of industry experience, will continue to serve as Manager of Talent Relations. The Talent Relations team will also remain in close contact with AEW’s Legal and Talent Resources team - led by Margaret Stalvey, Chris Peck and Megha Parekh - who help to support the physical and mental health, safety and security of talent. AEW is also committed to supporting talent beyond the ring, and offers access to world class physicians, trainers and mental health clinicians.
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Adam Cole made his choice as he and The Undisputed Era lay out the Young Bucks. I thought the whole thing was ridiculously abrupt, especially since none of these guys have been on TV regularly lately due to injury. We all knew they were setting up UE vs Adam Page and the Bucks, but they jumped to the climax way too fast.
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Taz is annoyed that he didn’t know that Starks was going to issue an open challenge, that Hook would accept, and that Hobbs would turn on Starks, so he lets all 3 men go and ends Team Taz but he wishes them all the best in their future endeavors. I assume Hook is still allowed to be Taz’s son though.
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AEW promoted Mance Warner winning the Bunkhouse Stampede at the Flair show and are bringing him in to face Moxley in what I’m sure will be a crazy death match on Rampage. Of all the matches from the Flair show to highlight, I did not expect this to be the one AEW picked. They didn’t even mention Lethal’s involvement.
Madison Rayne will also make her AEW debut on Friday.
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Taz is annoyed that he didn’t know that Starks was going to issue an open challenge, that Hook would accept, and that Hobbs would turn on Starks, so he lets all 3 men go and ends Team Taz but he wishes them all the best in their future endeavors. I assume Hook is still allowed to be Taz’s son though.
Team Taz as a concept had legs earlier on, but the Blackpool Combat Club seems to be rendering the idea obsolete as Taz becomes much more valuable as a commentator. It was abrupt, like Fritz disowning Lance and wanting to never discuss it again. Taz took off his shades and glared to make sure we knew he wasn't picking sides. Tonight either Regal or Mox quoted some BCC mantra and to me it was Team Taz's "Kill or Be Killed" philosophy repackaged.
Ethan Page looks ready for a new chapter which seems to finish up Dan Lambert and his ATT crew. I'd be a fan of Dojo feuds with mean streaks and macho posturing. Stokely could have his own crew similar to his Diamond Mine, too. But for now I'll take any attempt to shake up some dormant talent.
One turn that doesn't work for me is Anna Jay to the JAS. I'd much rather see her as a pawn in the Christian vs. Jungle Boy feud.
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Moreso than the in-ring ability is how the matches fall apart because she bows up to the other workers in the match, when she should be selling, in essence removing the story of the match itself as if to say "if this wasn't a work I would kick everyone's ass". Is the point to having Marina on the roster a chess move to be able to convince Roderick Strong to sign when he becomes available? Tony Khan might be one of those complete-set chasers for modern day, and he needs a Roddy action figure to put in the same display case as Fish, O'Reilly and Cole.
In some ways it's humorous to see the potential for WWE/AEW talent switching sides, such as Strong and Damon Kemp facing the Creed Bros. and Strong slowly seeing his mind games don't motivate the Creeds anymore, and the training dedication aspects could be assumed by Ivy Nile in a one-week turnaround, since they have built that quality in her through vignettes.
I think the pairing with Nyla Rose is going to be about the most they can get out of Shafir, and the speculation about why she is featured will be seen if Strong becomes availabke and gets signed with AEW.
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Moreso than the in-ring ability is how the matches fall apart because she bows up to the other workers in the match, when she should be selling, in essence removing the story of the match itself as if to say "if this wasn't a work I would kick everyone's ass". Is the point to having Marina on the roster a chess move to be able to convince Roderick Strong to sign when he becomes available? Tony Khan might be one of those complete-set chasers for modern day, and he needs a Roddy action figure to put in the same display case as Fish, O'Reilly and Cole.
In some ways it's humorous to see the potential for WWE/AEW talent switching sides, such as Strong and Damon Kemp facing the Creed Bros. and Strong slowly seeing his mind games don't motivate the Creeds anymore, and the training dedication aspects could be assumed by Ivy Nile in a one-week turnaround, since they have built that quality in her through vignettes.
I think the pairing with Nyla Rose is going to be about the most they can get out of Shafir, and the speculation about why she is featured will be seen if Strong becomes availabke and gets signed with AEW.
AEW doesn’t need Marina to get Strong. That was a done deal. Strong requested his release and was going to be in AEW already, but WWE won’t grant it. He’ll move as soon as he can, although I can’t see what he would add to the roster at this point. He’s a great worker but with no personality to stand out on that crowded roster.
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Halfway through Wednesday's show and taking a break now.
Street fight, though I really think they've cooled down Wardlow since he beat MFJ. Scorpio took a lot of bumps for a supposedly injured guy.
Tag match was a complete mess for whatever reason. They are much better than that but something was badly off.
Christian is great.
Dark Order... I can't imagine anyone who hasn't been watching AEW since day one giving a shit about this group.
It looks like this Jericho- Kingston thing is going to go on forever... The arm spot with Soho was silly.
At least JR wasn't involved so far, I'm sure he's coming out soon for the second half.
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Finished off the show. I must say I'm liking some of Moxley's matches lately and that one was pretty damn good, even if the result wasn't in doubt.
I didn't think the show was much good overall but I did laugh at Danhausen.
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ROH World champion Jonathan Gresham turned heel tonight on Rampage, joining Tully Blanchard’s stable. This sets up Gresham vs. Lee Moriarty for the title at Death Before Dishonor. I’m not sure the point of turning Gresham heel so soon after Lethal turned heel on him, but we’ll see where it goes.
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Tully Blanchard now has Jonathan Gresham under his advisement after Gresham walked out on Lee Moriarty in their tag match. Tully could be the new Fred Blassie if his interviews help get talents over and he gains heat just from being a sneaky ringside presence but not bumping himself
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AEW has trademarked “Captain Insano”, Paul Wight’s character in “The Waterboy” 25 years ago. The expectation is for Wight to have a match using that gimmick. Adam Sandler co-wrote the movie in addition to starring in it and he has signed off.
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On a recent podcast, Konnan confirmed rumors that Santana and Ortiz “are not on good terms”. This comes after months of speculation that the team isn’t getting along in real life and don’t really speak anymore unless it’s necessary for the match. The two still occasionally team in AEW but Ortiz has been getting more singles matches while Santana mostly sits on the sidelines. On the indy scene, they almost exclusively book themselves as singles now and rarely appear on the same shows. Ruby Riott, in character on Dynamite, mentioned that Eddie Kingston is very close to Jon Moxley and Ortiz but didn’t mention Santana. Santana has tweeted a countdown clock to the end of his AEW contract and all signs point towards him leaving and Ortiz remaining. Ortiz is the one who got the big hair vs. hair singles match against Chris Jericho and has been winning Dark matches, and AEW supposedly has plans for him in the future. Santana seems to have alienated himself from everyone and is on his way out. There hasn’t even been a hint of a break-up on TV though, other than Ortiz just doing more of his own thing.
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Is the Dynamite crowd dead or what? That first match was MUCH BETTER than I thought it would be and I was close to turning it off early.
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I liked the backstage promo where Thunder Rosa and Toni Storm were interrupted by Dr. Britt Baker and Jamie Hayter with Rebel. Mocking the new team "Thunderstorm" Baker said it was a natural disaster whose flooding could be contained, by... a sandbag. Great way to play off the Rosa-Marina Shafir scuttlebutt with some humor.
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I didn't like that for a few reasons, the biggest one being that Rosa starts the promos beaming, smiling from ear to ear despite having just been beaten in Japan.
The sandbag thing...didnt do much for me either.
To be honest nearly everything in between the matches is really not much better than the fake shitty wwe 'skits'. Same for Anna Jay and Tay backstage.
But some of the matches are very good. Mox and Takeshita was very good at times and I really like Takeshita. The women's match was good. Claudio v Hager was good. Luchasaurus match was good. But it's sandwiched by dreck most of the time.
I've been liking Rampage more lately because there's just less of that shit to listen to.
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I have not watched tag match yet.
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I don't care about Orange Cassidy not caring about anything, and putting him in title bouts should be left instead to the guys who come across as being competitive. TBS apparently likes having him on their shows, but he should be slotted like a Jimmy Valiant.
Christian Cage is doing some of his best career work. He's got the Gary Sinise face, one you expect to be disliking in whatever role he's in.
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
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Ive listened to 2 podcast segments recently where Kenny had complained about fans essentially not liking things he likes. Is this par for the course with him or are his feelings getting more delicate as he gets older?
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
Even in WWE, size only matters when they want it to. Big guys come in unstoppable and within 6 months are jobbing to everyone. The Big Show jobbed to the entire roster 5 times over, from Rey Misterio to Jeff Hardy and everyone in between. Great Khali was too big for The Undertaker to do anything with, then the next year was jobbing to Fandango. Size is a gimmick like anything else, and when the gimmick runs its course, it's over.
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
I guess you're right. The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's a bad thing. Obviously a lot of fans think it's a good thing or maybe don't care about it so it does no harm to their enjoyment.
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The Briscoes and FTR sat down with Caprice Coleman for a 5-minute segment where FTR proposed a 2/3 falls stipulation to put to rest the notion their previous match result was a fluke. Short and sweet.
<A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g768IunwEd0" TARGET="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g768IunwEd0A>
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The Briscoes and FTR sat down with Caprice Coleman for a 5-minute segment where FTR proposed a 2/3 falls stipulation to put to rest the notion their previous match result was a fluke. Short and sweet.
<A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g768IunwEd0" TARGET="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g768IunwEd0A>
I enjoyed that. Very simple and effective build. I wish they could’ve spared 5 minutes on Dynamite or Rampage to air that.
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I'm looking forward to the PPV. The last match between them is the best match I've seen in a long time. Lethal V Joe should be be good. And I think the Yuta match has potential to be great.
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Gresham vs. Castagnoli is an unexpected and strange main event. 2 different eras of ROH colliding. Castagnoli was never a main eventer or singles champion there but is the much bigger star now. He’s new to AEW and coming in on top, so it’s hard to imagine him jobbing. But I also don’t like the idea of them taking the belt off of Gresham so quickly when they really need to establish him for the majority of fans not very familiar with him. Either way, should be a great match. I just don’t know how you book it.
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Yes, I'd never seen Gresham before AEW and he is tremendous.
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FTR has a pretty cool new shirt out with 7 different colored stripes, with each stripe representing the color of the company they’ve won titles in (in order):
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Gresham is booked next week Friday at the show that's part of the Tragos-Thesz HOF weekend in Waterloo; I am not sure of the opponent there, but that's a good bit of timing for the museum to get someone with a big PPV match pending.
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Has anyone seen the FTR v American Wolves match from a week or so ago? Happened on some indy in West Virginia.
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Has anyone seen the FTR v American Wolves match from a week or so ago? Happened on some indy in West Virginia.
Link? IMO Eddie Edwards has looked horrible the past few years so I’m wondering if he can still keep up.
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Has anyone seen the FTR v American Wolves match from a week or so ago? Happened on some indy in West Virginia.
Link? IMO Eddie Edwards has looked horrible the past few years so I’m wondering if he can still keep up.
This appears to be a fan cam version of it.
<A HREF="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dg" TARGET="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dgA>
Originally i was asking because i didn't know where to find it, Ill check it out later tonight.
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Has anyone seen the FTR v American Wolves match from a week or so ago? Happened on some indy in West Virginia.
Link? IMO Eddie Edwards has looked horrible the past few years so I’m wondering if he can still keep up.
This appears to be a fan cam version of it.
<A HREF="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dg" TARGET="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dgA>
Originally i was asking because i didn't know where to find it, Ill check it out later tonight.
Watching it now. Dennis Condrey walks out with FTR.
This is a lot to give away on a random West Virginia indy. I hope they all made some money, especially since for the Wolves it destroys their Impact continuity.
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Has anyone seen the FTR v American Wolves match from a week or so ago? Happened on some indy in West Virginia.
Link? IMO Eddie Edwards has looked horrible the past few years so I’m wondering if he can still keep up.
This appears to be a fan cam version of it.
<A HREF="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dg" TARGET="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zp1qIKav8dgA>
Originally i was asking because i didn't know where to find it, Ill check it out later tonight.
Watching it now. Dennis Condrey walks out with FTR.
This is a lot to give away on a random West Virginia indy. I hope they all made some money, especially since for the Wolves it destroys their Impact continuity.
Decent match, very basic and fundamentally sound. Richards looked fantastic.
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Genuinely thought Condrey was dead.
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Thunder Rosa did an interview comparing her rivalry with Britt Baker to the Austin-Rock rivalry. When Baker was asked about it, she savaged Rosa in a way that didn’t seem to be in character at all.
“I think Thunder Rosa should talk the least amount possible in wrestling and in interviews and in everything and the world would be a better place because she sounds stupid all the time when she says anything. That’s what I think. No, I don’t compare myself to people like The Rock and Austin or anything like that. In-character, sure, I think I’m better. Dr. Britt Baker D.M.D. is better than anybody but when we’re talking realistic storyline settings, I don’t think anything right now that I could do would be at that level. Someday? I hope so, maybe and I hope and pray that I can have that type of impact on the wrestling world but, Thunder Rosa, most of the time when she opens her mouth, something stupid comes out.”
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If the JAS could have fit thru the bars the entire time why didn't they do it sooner, hang and drop down? They weren't that high up.
The Jericho / Kingston match was ok it, they had some issues at the end there with kingston missing the backfist thing. Nice touch though having everything wrapped in barbed wire.
Im pretty casual with my viewing and i could be wrong but it always seems to me that these bigger gimmick matches come up short.
Britt was dragging Rosa on Dynamite
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I have seen more of Rosa's Vlog adventures going from one market to the next than I have of Baker's media appearances, but I am more interested to hear Rosa's presentation. Rosa's promos don't sound slick and programmed, but I like the passion and determination to make the most of the time she's been given on top. Baker is doing the same routine after more than a year, from as much as I have seen, and if she's really invested in developing to become a mega-star, rather than being a Dentist On Demand, I would want her to try to match Rosa's intensity.
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I have seen more of Rosa's Vlog adventures going from one market to the next than I have of Baker's media appearances, but I am more interested to hear Rosa's presentation. Rosa's promos don't sound slick and programmed, but I like the passion and determination to make the most of the time she's been given on top. Baker is doing the same routine after more than a year, from as much as I have seen, and if she's really invested in developing to become a mega-star, rather than being a Dentist On Demand, I would want her to try to match Rosa's intensity.
Read between the lines here - this was Britt Baker’s way of calling Rosa a total mark for herself but Britt wouldn’t go so far as to say it outright because as a human she is above that. You can say that Britt’s character is stale, but it’s really not. Just like any “women’s division”, there are only so many wrestlers to go through before you run out of new opponents. Britt has beaten almost all of them. Someday, Britt vs Jade will headline Dynamite or Thunder or whatever the fuck they call Friday Night.
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I'm in the minority because the phrase "mark for yourself" comes too often out of the mouths of people who create their own rules for acceptable behavior and then want it followed, rather than just do their own thing. Rosa's itinerary has her repping the company and belt at every turn, no matter how big or small. AEW can benefit from someone on top with a success story and is approachable in a way that Baker's Mean Girl persona can't be. No argument that there is lots of room for improvement on all sides.
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I'm in the minority because the phrase "mark for yourself" comes too often out of the mouths of people who create their own rules for acceptable behavior and then want it followed, rather than just do their own thing. Rosa's itinerary has her repping the company and belt at every turn, no matter how big or small. AEW can benefit from someone on top with a success story and is approachable in a way that Baker's Mean Girl persona can't be. No argument that there is lots of room for improvement on all sides.
I agree with you about how Rosa's character really resonates with the people, and she's doing a great job of repping the company and the belt. Britt Baker did just as well repping the company and the belt, but as you say, it's tough to be a heel on TV and a face while at public events because it just doesn't mesh. What do I love about Rosa? Nothing other than the fact that she is very believable in the ring. When she wrestles, pretty much everything she does looks legit. But on the mic she is weak. Her profile got raised up to the top of the pile because of the bloodbath she had with Britt Baker, and there is no question about that. She was NWA Women's Champ until the pandemic, and if I'm not mistaken she lost that strap to Serena Deeb at the time or something. It's hard not to have a great match with Deeb, she's technically one of the best going right now based on all the years she's put in.
You are so correct on your last statement - lots of room for improvement on both sides.
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If there’s one thing wrestling has taught me, it’s that women cannot figure out locks.
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The Anna Jay turn seems to me that they want a female presence in JAS they trust in the ring. Tay Conti won't be removed but she needs to up her game to be considered for anything else in their gameplans beyond being Sammy's girl.
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The Anna Jay turn seems to me that they want a female presence in JAS they trust in the ring. Tay Conti won't be removed but she needs to up her game to be considered for anything else in their gameplans beyond being Sammy's girl.
Conti was atrocious in NXT. I thought I saw some improvement during her AEW run but that’s stalled or regressed as she’s become more Sammy’s girl and less a wrestler.
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Based on Dax’s promo last night, AEW had officially released “Fight Like an 8-Year Old Girl” T-shirts with 100% of the proceeds being donated to the American Heart Association.
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Austin Gunn’s rap on Max Caster:
“I’m not scared of you mister
How would I be scared of one of Bobby Lashley’s sisters?
Here’s a secret, you dated Kriss Stat
Let me tell you where you went wrong with that
I’ll give you all a teaser
It’s because Edward Scissorhands over here couldn’t please her
Now before you talk about Daddy Ass, your dad is Rich Caster
How about we talk about which daddy’s career ended faster
He played tight end, Bowens is that giving you a fever?
When you two role play, is that why you’re always the wide receiver?
Right here in Georgia
Have a great day and I got 2 words for ya
I’d say stick to rap but you ain’t even good at that
Oh by the way John Cena wants his gimmick back”
Caster won the rap battle and his delivery was clearly better, but Austin had much better lines. His best line was:
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Tony Khan bought the whole company just to burn your match footage”
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Jon Moxley has been named the official spokesperson for Athletic Brewing Company, which makes non-alcoholic craft beer. Moxley started drinking it after getting out of rehab and the company saw him using their products and have now hired him to be part of their marketing campaign.
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If there’s one thing wrestling has taught me, it’s that women cannot figure out locks.
Lol. Just watched the show. Some very good matches and then an abortion of a main event
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Austin Gunn’s rap on Max Caster:
“I’m not scared of you mister
How would I be scared of one of Bobby Lashley’s sisters?
Here’s a secret, you dated Kriss Stat
Let me tell you where you went wrong with that
I’ll give you all a teaser
It’s because Edward Scissorhands over here couldn’t please her
Now before you talk about Daddy Ass, your dad is Rich Caster
How about we talk about which daddy’s career ended faster
He played tight end, Bowens is that giving you a fever?
When you two role play, is that why you’re always the wide receiver?
Right here in Georgia
Have a great day and I got 2 words for ya
I’d say stick to rap but you ain’t even good at that
Oh by the way John Cena wants his gimmick back”
Caster won the rap battle and his delivery was clearly better, but Austin had much better lines. His best line was:
“You tried to work in ROH but your ass couldn’t
Tony Khan bought the whole company just to burn your match footage”
I wonder who wrote it? It was good stuff out of Austin.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
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Not sure what happened with Tully Blanchard but he seems to be gone. Prince Nana made a surprise appearance on the ROH pre-show and announced that he has purchased Tully Blanchard Enterprises and is now managing Gresham, Cage, and the Gates of Agony. The Embassy is back.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
Yeah, that was done well to be fair but it was of no interest to me.In more recent years they have has Bad Bunny, another guy I never heard of.
On Dynamite the live crowd seemed to not give a shit when Swerve was talking about some guy's new album.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
Yeah, that was done well to be fair but it was of no interest to me.In more recent years they have has Bad Bunny, another guy I never heard of.
On Dynamite the live crowd seemed to not give a shit when Swerve was talking about some guy's new album.
I never heard of Bad Bunny before either, but if you want to draw younger fans who can't just give up on anyone that old farts under 50 never heard of. Bad Bunny sells out stadiums every summer and just got the biggest pop at the MLB Celebrity All-Star Softball Game (The Miz was MVP for that game btw), so he has massive mainstream appeal.
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I won't start a new thread for Death Before Dishonr, but I finished the show and my biggest gripe is that it was once again a 1 match show revolving around FTR and the Briscoes. They went 45-minutes in a 2-out-of-3 falls MOTY candidate.
Other than that...nada. They started the show with the main event of Gresham vs. Claudio and gave them about 12 minutes. I was so disappointed in that. It was a good match, but it could've been on Rampage. It was not an ROH World title caliber match even though they could've easily delivered at that level.
AEW never phones it in with matches on their own PPVs. Even mid-card matches sometimes get way too much time as the whole show runs 4+ hours. Overkill. With ROH, TK goes the opposite direction and cuts everyone's time short except for FTR and the Briscoes.
The only other highlight was Regal's commentary on 2 matches, which was phenomenal. Regal is the 2nd best color commentator in the business right now behind only Taz, and he just started calling the odd match again a few weeks ago after not doing it for almost 10 years.
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Injury update on CM Punk isn't very good.
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AEW Champion CM Punk stated at San Diego Comic-Con during an AEW panel last night that his foot is still healing after being "shattered" at AEW's Los Angeles debut Dynamite and undergoing surgery. Punk stated that he is re-learning how to walk after the surgery and there is no time table for his return to the ring.
One source who who working backstage at SDCC said they crossed paths with AEW talents across the last several days multiple times and it was obvious how much pain Punk was in while moving around and that they saw him icing his foot multiple times in backstage areas while sitting in between appearances.
Punk was wearing a walking boot while appearing at the SDCC events.
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I won't start a new thread for Death Before Dishonr, but I finished the show and my biggest gripe is that it was once again a 1 match show revolving around FTR and the Briscoes. They went 45-minutes in a 2-out-of-3 falls MOTY candidate.
Other than that...nada. They started the show with the main event of Gresham vs. Claudio and gave them about 12 minutes. I was so disappointed in that. It was a good match, but it could've been on Rampage. It was not an ROH World title caliber match even though they could've easily delivered at that level.
AEW never phones it in with matches on their own PPVs. Even mid-card matches sometimes get way too much time as the whole show runs 4+ hours. Overkill. With ROH, TK goes the opposite direction and cuts everyone's time short except for FTR and the Briscoes.
The only other highlight was Regal's commentary on 2 matches, which was phenomenal. Regal is the 2nd best color commentator in the business right now behind only Taz, and he just started calling the odd match again a few weeks ago after not doing it for almost 10 years.
The Claudio/Gresham size differential was too much for me to take seriously. Decent enough match but aew had already taped dark or something with Gresham without the belt, so I didn’t think the outcome was in jeopardy.
Six man was fun if you like castle and the boys, god shenanigans. Yuta and Garcia was pretty good. I also really liked rush and dragon Lee. The six man match on the preshow with the embassy v deppen/zayne/Christian was pretty fun.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
And even worse. The guy with zero experience in the ring going over one of the biggest baddest men in the business. Cleanly. WWF wrestlers were meant to be the toughest dudes on the planet and one couldn't even pin a retired gridiron player? What message is THAT sending? "The WWF champion might be able to hang with Joe Namath for a few seconds"?
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
And even worse. The guy with zero experience in the ring going over one of the biggest baddest men in the business. Cleanly. WWF wrestlers were meant to be the toughest dudes on the planet and one couldn't even pin a retired gridiron player? What message is THAT sending? "The WWF champion might be able to hang with Joe Namath for a few seconds"?
I get what you’re saying but Bigelow was on his way out. If you’re going to get jobbed out, might as well get jobbed out in the main event of WM to a big mainstream name.
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I don't blame Bigelow for taking a big pay day, I blame McMahon for continually booking wrestlers to look worse than non-wrestlers. It's the biggest kayfabe-buster possible. If wrestling were genuinely the biggest toughest on the planet, how come one jobbed to a non-wrestler in his only match? Makes the entire roster look like pussies.
I mean, if they had booked it into a corner that Bigelow had to do the job, how hard was it to write an outside-interference-gone-wrong?
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Not sure what happened with Tully Blanchard but he seems to be gone. Prince Nana made a surprise appearance on the ROH pre-show and announced that he has purchased Tully Blanchard Enterprises and is now managing Gresham, Cage, and the Gates of Agony. The Embassy is back.
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Maybe it's my age, maybe it's where from. I had no idea who any of the celebrity rappers and singers were on Dynamite and Rampage.
I agree 100% with this. A huge pet peeve of mine when AEW or WWE, who love to brag about their international audience, expect me to care about US sports. As lame as the main event of WrestleMania XI was (yeah, the match was OK, but LT vs Bigelow is not a WM main event), imagine how unimpressed non-US wrestling fans were with Lawrence Taylor, with absolutely zero name value, headlining the biggest show of the year.
And even worse. The guy with zero experience in the ring going over one of the biggest baddest men in the business. Cleanly. WWF wrestlers were meant to be the toughest dudes on the planet and one couldn't even pin a retired gridiron player? What message is THAT sending? "The WWF champion might be able to hang with Joe Namath for a few seconds"?
I get what you’re saying but Bigelow was on his way out. If you’re going to get jobbed out, might as well get jobbed out in the main event of WM to a big mainstream name.
But he wasn't a big mainstream name. That's my whole point. Most wrestling fans outside of the US and Canada have no idea who these people are. I have never once seen LT play football, and if it wasn't for his time in WWF, I wouldn't know who he was at all. Imagine they did the same angle with a Scottish rugby player.
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
I guess you're right. The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's a bad thing. Obviously a lot of fans think it's a good thing or maybe don't care about it so it does no harm to their enjoyment.
Gresham probably wishes height didn't matter
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
I guess you're right. The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's a bad thing. Obviously a lot of fans think it's a good thing or maybe don't care about it so it does no harm to their enjoyment.
Gresham probably wishes height didn't matter
It really doesn't, but Gresham thinks it does. My biggest problem was the octopus mask that was never explained in Impact or AEW. They never explained the flag, or what The Foundation was. It's a complete indie thing to come out with an "interesting" costume for no reason. Sammy Guevara dropped the Panda head very early in his AEW run, and even Vader's helmet was pretty daft (maybe not by 90s wrestling standards) and he stopped wearing it eventually. Remember Mantaur?
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I agree with that. Most of the booking in AEW doesn't make much sense. I hate Cassidy being booked with and being competitive with Wardlow but in and of itself the match was decent.
Christian is doing the best work I've seen from him.
Cassidy is coming off of a MOTY candidate with Will Ospreay. There’s no reason he shouldn’t have a competitive match with Wardlow.
Wardlow shouldn't be having competitive matches with 150lb guys. That's my opinion on Wardlow.
You just have to accept that weight doesn't mean anything in AEW. The only person who ever mentions that size might play a part in the results of a match is Jim Ross, and he comes off a bit Art Donovan-esque in that regard. It might not be realistic, but that's where we are in any North American wrestling that isn't WWE. It's been heading this way for the last 100 years. In the 1920s and 30s, even a 10 pound difference would be too much for anyone but the most skilled wrestler to overcome.
I guess you're right. The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's a bad thing. Obviously a lot of fans think it's a good thing or maybe don't care about it so it does no harm to their enjoyment.
Gresham probably wishes height didn't matter
It really doesn't, but Gresham thinks it does. My biggest problem was the octopus mask that was never explained in Impact or AEW. They never explained the flag, or what The Foundation was. It's a complete indie thing to come out with an "interesting" costume for no reason. Sammy Guevara dropped the Panda head very early in his AEW run, and even Vader's helmet was pretty daft (maybe not by 90s wrestling standards) and he stopped wearing it eventually. Remember Mantaur?
Gresham is billed at 5’4” which is shorter than Mysterio jr’s billed height and being a flyer Rey was able to hide some of his physical limitations but Gresham is all about his ground game and i dont see as many people being able to over look it.
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Gresham did look tiny in the ring with Claudio. Claudio is, what, 6 feet 4?
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Is he REALLY 5'4"? I mean, I think Jordynne Grace is bigger than that. And that's shorter than Taz too.
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Is he REALLY 5'4"? I mean, I think Jordynne Grace is bigger than that. And that's shorter than Taz too.
She is listed at 5’3”
Taz 5’ 9”
Rey 5’6”
Im getting all of these from wikipedia
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Gresham looks shorter than Rey to me. He’s also roided to the gills packing that much muscle into an incredibly tiny frame.
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I won't start a new thread for Death Before Dishonr, but I finished the show and my biggest gripe is that it was once again a 1 match show revolving around FTR and the Briscoes. They went 45-minutes in a 2-out-of-3 falls MOTY candidate.
Other than that...nada. They started the show with the main event of Gresham vs. Claudio and gave them about 12 minutes. I was so disappointed in that. It was a good match, but it could've been on Rampage. It was not an ROH World title caliber match even though they could've easily delivered at that level.
AEW never phones it in with matches on their own PPVs. Even mid-card matches sometimes get way too much time as the whole show runs 4+ hours. Overkill. With ROH, TK goes the opposite direction and cuts everyone's time short except for FTR and the Briscoes.
The only other highlight was Regal's commentary on 2 matches, which was phenomenal. Regal is the 2nd best color commentator in the business right now behind only Taz, and he just started calling the odd match again a few weeks ago after not doing it for almost 10 years.
I just watched the show.
Main event was off the charts again. Might have been better than the first one, which was the best match I think I've seen since I started watching wrestling again.
I agree the World Title match was a letdown. I thought it was good but I'd hoped it would be great. And thought it would be longer.
Joe and Lethal was good.
I thought Yuta and Garcia was tremendous, I don't know if I'm in the minority but Garcia really impresses me when I see him away from all that JAS shite.
I enjoyed the show overall.
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Okay. I think I'm over Slim J getting me so annoyed I posted in the wrong thread.
From the files of my "matches from Dark and Elevation that you should watch"... Emi Sakura and Toni Storm had one of the best women's matches in AEW's history on Elevation on Monday night.
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By contrast, I thought Marina Shafir stunk up the tag match with Nyla Rose yet again. Even the commentators have to spin her wonky mannerisms as something unique and hard to strategize against. Nyla will have to turn face to get out of this unfortunate booking.
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Marina Shafir is one of the worst 'name' wrestlers I've ever seen. She shouldn't be on television. Or YouTube. Or anything else.
I'm skipping any of them anymore.
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Okay. I think I'm over Slim J getting me so annoyed I posted in the wrong thread.
The Orlando audience (all 100 of them) on Dark shit all over the new "Trust Fund" Ari Daivari gimmick (the "richest man in all of pro wrestling") when he was being interviewed in the ring by Tony Shiavone. "We don't care" chants and the first "boring" chant I can remember for many a year. The strangest part was that they focused on people in the crowd pretending to fall asleep, so I guess they know that this is a non-starter. This is the second time, after Lio Rush, that they have crashed and burned with a heel rich-kid character. I really with that AEW didn't sign all these wrestlers from the WWE scrap-heap. Use what you have, or bring in exciting indie guys.
I'm enjoying the title defences they've been including on Dark the last couple of weeks. I've got no problem with the All-Atlantic title if we get to see PAC defending the title all over world. The women's match from last week was very good as well, and rematch tonight should be great with the big crowd.
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I've seen AEW crowds dead and disinterested. I don't remember seeing them actively telling the promotion to fuck off with an angle or promo, the way you describe.
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Okay. I think I'm over Slim J getting me so annoyed I posted in the wrong thread.
The Orlando audience (all 100 of them) on Dark shit all over the new "Trust Fund" Ari Daivari gimmick (the "richest man in all of pro wrestling") when he was being interviewed in the ring by Tony Shiavone. "We don't care" chants and the first "boring" chant I can remember for many a year. The strangest part was that they focused on people in the crowd pretending to fall asleep, so I guess they know that this is a non-starter.
It sounds like they were encouraging the fans to act that way, they might have even told them to off-camera.
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The Mrs mentioned during Dynamite that she noticed the guy with box on his head sitting on the front row the past few weeks with the slow motion applause. It appears to the same guy every week because of the height and build being consistent. She also noticed that he is wearing very flashy sport coats. Anybody want to guess that it is one Maxwell Jacob Friedman under the box this whole time?
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The Mrs mentioned during Dynamite that she noticed the guy with box on his head sitting on the front row the past few weeks with the slow motion applause. It appears to the same guy every week because of the height and build being consistent. She also noticed that he is wearing very flashy sport coats. Anybody want to guess that it is one Maxwell Jacob Friedman under the box this whole time?
It's Kip Sabian. He's been doing this since before MJF left.
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From a Road Dogg interview this week:
"I'm not retired, I'm unemployed. I see things on Tony Khan's TV show that appal me. I could help with that. I have been begging him for a job on every platform I can and I want to know the reason why he won't hire me."
Pathetic. I'll drink his tears.
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From a Road Dogg interview this week:
"I'm not retired, I'm unemployed. I see things on Tony Khan's TV show that appal me. I could help with that. I have been begging him for a job on every platform I can and I want to know the reason why he won't hire me."
Pathetic. I'll drink his tears.
Well maybe you should stop saying that the company you want to hire you appalls you. Rarely a good way to start a job interview. That's my free HR advice for the day.
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Some very good matches on that show, especially the main event. Danielson is so good it's scary. All round there's nobody better than him.
I don't know what everyone here thinks of him but the last 3 or 4 Garcia matches have all been tremendous. I know I've heard Cornette say he's useless but Cornette is wrong. He's very, very good already, he looks real in the ring and has real heel heat in the ring. Promos haven't been great.
Good show, despite a Chris Jericho. And great to hear aew will soon have a new tournament for a new champsionship (which I will likely skip entirely).
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And great to hear aew will soon have a new tournament for a new champsionship (which I will likely skip entirely).
This heralds the return of Kenny Omega, and likely is leading us to a final of Kenny & The Bucks vs Adam Cole & reDragon. Whatever you think about the need for a trios title, that match will be tremendous. With the House of Black and Death Triangle also likely in the tournament, I can't wait.
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And great to hear aew will soon have a new tournament for a new champsionship (which I will likely skip entirely).
This heralds the return of Kenny Omega, and likely is leading us to a final of Kenny & The Bucks vs Adam Cole & reDragon. Whatever you think about the need for a trios title, that match will be tremendous. With the House of Black and Death Triangle also likely in the tournament, I can't wait.
Agreed on all points. As soon as they announced the trios titles I knew Kenny’s return was imminent. They have plenty of talent and factions to warrant this title and should provide some great matches. Hopefully this is the last championship they add though, but I have been looking forward to this tournament for some time.
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I think there's already far too many titles.
I don't like six man matches for the most part but they are a regular feature on AEW, people like them and I have no real problem with them having a title for it,aaide from the fact there are about twenty championships already featured regularly.
And I also presume this will mean Omega back with the Bucks,though they teased something else in last night's show.
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Here is an ROH subgenre post from Stokely Hathaway's Twitter and a response featuring Wheeler Yuta, William Regal and Isaiah Kassidy.
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The Acclaimed had a great followup from their last music video with "Trash Day" which challenges The Gunn Club to a dumpster match next week on Dynamite.
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I think there's already far too many titles.
I don't like six man matches for the most part but they are a regular feature on AEW, people like them and I have no real problem with them having a title for it,aaide from the fact there are about twenty championships already featured regularly.
And I also presume this will mean Omega back with the Bucks,though they teased something else in last night's show.
Tag matches in general are my favorite matches and i really enjoy a good 6 man tag so if they can make this work ill be tuning in.
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The weekly HEY-EW episode with RJ City has William Regal as a guest. All the recent podcast content of Regal's enjoyment with being reactionary in his presentation is on display opposite the host, who seems to be doing an Ethel Merman gimmick. A fun chess match until they find a common ground to pull off a duet about Coronation Street.
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John Cena was photographed at this past week’s Dynamite outside of Boston. It was John Cena, Sr. though.
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Okay. I think I'm over Slim J getting me so annoyed I posted in the wrong thread.
The Orlando audience (all 100 of them) on Dark shit all over the new "Trust Fund" Ari Daivari gimmick (the "richest man in all of pro wrestling") when he was being interviewed in the ring by Tony Shiavone. "We don't care" chants and the first "boring" chant I can remember for many a year. The strangest part was that they focused on people in the crowd pretending to fall asleep, so I guess they know that this is a non-starter.
It sounds like they were encouraging the fans to act that way, they might have even told them to off-camera.
The Trustbusters stable is now Ari Daivari, Slim J and Parker Boudreaux. Still being shit on by the audience. Ari Daivari seems to be Tony Khan in the way Ted DiBiase was Vince McMahon. He is building a worse stable than the Million Dollar Corporation, if you can believe that.
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The Mrs mentioned during Dynamite that she noticed the guy with box on his head sitting on the front row the past few weeks with the slow motion applause. It appears to the same guy every week because of the height and build being consistent. She also noticed that he is wearing very flashy sport coats. Anybody want to guess that it is one Maxwell Jacob Friedman under the box this whole time?
It's Kip Sabian. He's been doing this since before MJF left.
In the "PAC on tour" match from RevPro on last night's Dark, the man wearing the box was at ringside and Excalibur identified him as Kip Sabian, although Taz was sceptical.
This was another very good match. With PAC only part-time in the US, this is a great way to keep him on their shows and give a special meaning to the All-Atlantic Title.
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AEW ANNOUNCES EXPANSION OF TALENT RELATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM
-- Roles for Sonjay Dutt, QT Marshall, Pat Buck and Tony Schiavone will Increase Under Expanded Talent Relations Team; Madison Rayne Joining to Coach Women’s Division
August 3, 2022 – AEW CEO, GM and Head of Creative Tony Khan announced an expansion to AEW’s talent relations team with the promotions of key staff members including Sonjay Dutt, QT Marshall, Pat Buck and Tony Schiavone. In addition, Madison Rayne will join AEW as a coach in the women’s division.
As AEW continues its meteoric rise, the expanded talent relations team will strengthen the infrastructure required to facilitate the development, health and safety of AEW’s outstanding roster. The following promotions and additions are effective immediately:
Sonjay Dutt (Retesh Bhalla) has been promoted to Vice President of Production and Creative Coordination. In this role, he will coordinate communication of AEW storylines, liaise between post-production and key staff to maintain content workflow, produce ancillary content and mentor new producers. Dutt joined AEW in 2021, bringing more than 20 years of experience in professional wrestling – both in-ring and as a producer – and continues to serve on-screen as manager to Satnam Singh and Jay Lethal.
QT Marshall (Michael Cuellari) has been promoted to Vice President of Show and Creative Coordination. He will help to manage show elements including planning programs and storylines, character development, overseeing extras and live event logistics coordination. Marshall, an AEW original with more than 20 years of experience, will continue to wrestle as the leader of The Factory with Anthony Ogogo, Nick Comoroto, Aaron Solo and Cole Karter.
Pat Buck (Pat Buckridge) has been promoted to Vice President of Talent Development. In this position, he will liaise with talent and production, oversee all coaches, provide input on matches and promos, and lead the talent relations team. Buck brings nearly two decades of experience serving wrestling promotions as a talent, trainer, producer and promoter.
Tony Schiavone has been promoted to Senior Producer and Special Advisor to Talent. In this capacity, he will work directly with talent as part of the Talent Relations team. Schiavone is one of AEW’s most tenured members and has nearly 40 years of experience, with an iconic voice that has guided fans through professional wrestling’s most incredible moments.
Madison Rayne (Ashley Nichole Lomberger) will join AEW as a coach in the women’s division, and kick-off her new role tonight in her hometown of Columbus, Ohio. Madison has competed in numerous professional wrestling promotions where she has held multiple championship titles, including 5-time Women’s World Champion. She has more than 15 years of experience in professional wrestling, and is also a proud mom to a daughter.
Christopher Daniels, an AEW original who brings more than 30 years of industry experience, will continue to serve as Manager of Talent Relations. The Talent Relations team will also remain in close contact with AEW’s Legal and Talent Resources team - led by Margaret Stalvey, Chris Peck and Megha Parekh - who help to support the physical and mental health, safety and security of talent. AEW is also committed to supporting talent beyond the ring, and offers access to world class physicians, trainers and mental health clinicians.
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Adam Cole made his choice as he and The Undisputed Era lay out the Young Bucks. I thought the whole thing was ridiculously abrupt, especially since none of these guys have been on TV regularly lately due to injury. We all knew they were setting up UE vs Adam Page and the Bucks, but they jumped to the climax way too fast.
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Taz is annoyed that he didn’t know that Starks was going to issue an open challenge, that Hook would accept, and that Hobbs would turn on Starks, so he lets all 3 men go and ends Team Taz but he wishes them all the best in their future endeavors. I assume Hook is still allowed to be Taz’s son though.
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AEW promoted Mance Warner winning the Bunkhouse Stampede at the Flair show and are bringing him in to face Moxley in what I’m sure will be a crazy death match on Rampage. Of all the matches from the Flair show to highlight, I did not expect this to be the one AEW picked. They didn’t even mention Lethal’s involvement.
Madison Rayne will also make her AEW debut on Friday.
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Taz is annoyed that he didn’t know that Starks was going to issue an open challenge, that Hook would accept, and that Hobbs would turn on Starks, so he lets all 3 men go and ends Team Taz but he wishes them all the best in their future endeavors. I assume Hook is still allowed to be Taz’s son though.
Team Taz as a concept had legs earlier on, but the Blackpool Combat Club seems to be rendering the idea obsolete as Taz becomes much more valuable as a commentator. It was abrupt, like Fritz disowning Lance and wanting to never discuss it again. Taz took off his shades and glared to make sure we knew he wasn't picking sides. Tonight either Regal or Mox quoted some BCC mantra and to me it was Team Taz's "Kill or Be Killed" philosophy repackaged.
Ethan Page looks ready for a new chapter which seems to finish up Dan Lambert and his ATT crew. I'd be a fan of Dojo feuds with mean streaks and macho posturing. Stokely could have his own crew similar to his Diamond Mine, too. But for now I'll take any attempt to shake up some dormant talent.
One turn that doesn't work for me is Anna Jay to the JAS. I'd much rather see her as a pawn in the Christian vs. Jungle Boy feud.