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Post by Kriss on Dec 10, 2022 13:51:23 GMT
Posted: Sun Jun 30th, 2019 10:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I thought I would start a thread to discuss all things AEW going forward. So last night in Daytona Beach was the AEW 'Fyter Fest' card which was streamed live, for free on the 'B/R Live' site. In the Evolve anniversary show thread I mentioned that I didn't think this show looked good on paper as there were too many multi-person, clusterfu**k matches for my liking and didn't understand some of the booking of the matches. I also wrote that I really want the company to succeed, but I do see myself agreeing with Jim Cornette in a lot of the criticisms he has had so far with their events. So I watched it. I had no problem with any of the actual in ring action, besides that Nakazawa match. That was terrible. The skits were shitty, especially "the librarians". I thought they wanted to separate themselves from WWE and offer a more sports-like product as opposed to sports entertainment. Their "skits" were actually worse than WWE's. Anyway, I thought the matches were fine, I just thought some of the psychology wass way off as for some of the reasons the matches were taking place. Why would Moxley and Janela have such a brutal match? They had no history as far as I know, besides them both being past deathmatch guys? That match would have been perfectly fine to me if it was a blowoff to a long feud between the two. Yeah, yeah, I get that Moxley wants to be seen as just one "wild and crazy guy", but the level of violence in the match made no sense to me. I did love the old school "lights out" stipulation though. It just didn't fit the scenario, with it being the first match between the two. Omega coming out afterwards and getting some revenge for "Double Or Nothing" I thought was really well executed and a nice way to end the show. Damn Cody took quite the chairshot. I thought the announcers could have done a better job in explaining who Spears was though and his past connection to Cody. As far as the match with Darby Allin, I thought it was great, but again, why was this match happening? Cody is one of the top guys in the company and Allin (a virtual unknown to me, and I am sure to any casual viewers last night) was debuting....Why did this guy get a debut match in one of the semi main events against Cody? Again to me the psychology was off on this. I loved the story they told in the ring though, but man Allin is really, really small. Very noticeable compared to Cody, who isn't the biggest guy himself. Anyway, I gotta go out, but again, I loved the in ring action, I just thought the skits were bad and the psychology in why some of the matches happened wasn't there. I haven't really read any reviews yet, but I would think the show got mostly positive reviews. Not a great show imo, but very good. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Jul 1st, 2019 02:34 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 2nd Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: Everything I've seen it's getting hit pretty hard...said some of the wrestling was good but overall it was a massive step backwards... Btw, can we discuss what a punk ass Omega is? For the last week AEW guys have been taking digs all over twitter at the WWE, basically it's been open game on WWE since the last AEW PPV, a PPV that had Cody beating up HHH's throne, them constantly taking shots at them. So WWE puts the Evolve show on their Network the same night AEW has a show on July 13th and Omega tweets how horrid it is the WWE would DARE program against their little charity gig..I mean, come on dude, you guys wanted a battle, you can't get butthurt when they fire a shot back at you.. He's tweeting that WWE is basically stealing money from a charity but all I read was they're donating the live gate to the charity so another show on the WWE network at the same time isn't costing them dick in dollars.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Jul 1st, 2019 03:41 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 3rd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Most people need to stop analyzing things and just allow them to get their business up and running. Their roster is very, very thin at this point outside of the Elite and Moxley. By the time they are on TV, or pretty close after, they'll also have Gallows and Anderson (you'd pretty much think that's a given). What that helps them with is having a natural tag team opponent for the Bucks, and also another good match near the top of the card. But the reality is on July 1, they aren't much more than an indy company right now. The shows that they are putting on have talent, but of course there's no real storyline to follow or reason why people would do what they are doing. Until there is either a TV show on the air, or they use the two prior cards to further a storyline, these matches are just that...matches. Reading the above post saying "massive step backwards", well, of course it is. There's a real difference between a PPV that they charge $50 for, and a free show on Bleacher Report that is basically just a charity driven house show. For fans to say "massive step backwards" and have it have some sort of real meaning to it, they'd also have to compare Wrestlemania to the next house show in Altoona PA at the Joffa Mosque. You just can't do that. Carpetbeggar mentions their awful "skits". Well, I am of the belief that most of the backstage crap is just that, CRAP. If they are doing old school style interviews where their 'Mean Gene' character is interviewing the talent about that night's program and their opponent, I'm all in. Everything else is total horseshit. BUT...with such a thin roster on a free show, you have to expect that they are going to do something to stretch for time so that they don't totally give away the future on a free show. That's why there were so many tags, gimmicks, etc. and no "Kenny vs Cody" type deals (and for that matter, no Jericho). I still say we won't know if this promotion has any teeth until we give them a full year to show us. There are going to be growing pains with the wrestling and the production, but as long as there isn't a major fuckup with ticket sales and distribution, I still say they will be ok. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Jul 1st, 2019 04:12 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 4th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: We already have an AEW thread "It's official". Maybe we can combine these two with this topic title. I haven't had time to read the comments, but my general thoughts are that it was a fairly average show with some good wrestling, some horrible attempts at comedy, and a lot of hardcore stuff that's been missing from the mainstream for 20 years. Whether the latter is good or not I don't know. I'm kinda over it. The younger generation who never saw it might like it. Or they may be horrified because it's a different era now. The latter might be what happened as I got the sense that a lot of people were uncomfortable with some of the barbed wire and thumbtack spots in the Ambrose-Janela match. And the unprotected chair shot that split Cody's skull like a melon generated universal condemnation and made Tony Khan look bad. I think this show was supposed to be a holding pattern show and nothing special, and people expected more from it. But then they also took a step back with some unnecessary controversy and bad comedy. Also, I assume this will be handled better with weekly TV, but they HAVE to start introducing guys better. Who the fuck is Darby Allen and why should anyone care? Cody is small and Cody looked like Andre the Giant next to this guy, but they put him over like a huge psycho-killer threat. The announcers did an OK job with that, but we need packages and something more. Maybe this is all done on their YouTube shows but I'm a hardcore fan and don't watch that, and how many others do? Some of the stuff they do is WAY too niche, even for me. Also, the announcers gelled a bit better this time, but production-wise they're still really behind the curve of even Impact. Way too many awkward pauses and not knowing where to throw it. They even botched telling fans how to watch the free show on the kick-off. They need to get this down, period, no excuses. Last edited on Mon Jul 1st, 2019 04:14 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Jul 1st, 2019 05:41 pm PM Quote Reply 5th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I've watched Being the Elite for the past few weeks, and I watched FyterFest. The comedy is very, very inside. Likr they are making the jokes just for themselves inside. The whole Fyre Fest deal I did not get until I read someone explaining it. They based a show-long running gag on a Netflix documentary. I've read an explanation for the librarian gimmick, and I still don't get it. I guess FyterFest is a wrestling show held at a video game convention? They really didn't explain very well. Having the mark promoter of the convention live on TV in a wrestling match is just bush league, and completely exposes the business. Having said that, there were some cracking matches on the main show. I have no problem with a large number of tag matches. I just want to watch good matches. The six-way match with The Elite vs the Mexicans was outstanding. The chair shot... Meltzer says he was told that the chair was gimmicked, but Dillinger fucked up and beaned him with the leg of the chair instead of the seat. I don't want to see that kind of shit though, gimmicked chair or not, it just reminds me of dead ECW wrestlers. The main event was nuts. I guess Moxley is just legit crazy and needed to get a CZW-style match out of his system, but the market for that bloody style is pretty niche. If this was the blow-off to a feud, I'd maybe buy it, but there was no reason presented for these guys wanting to fight like this. Blood in glorious HD on a large flatscreen TV is a world away from watching wrestling from a VHS tape on my tiny TV back in the day. Dripping blood in HD isn't for me. If they had trimmed this show of all the bullshit and just put it out as a 2 hour show of great matches, it would have been great. I really hope AEW succeeds, but someone needs to keep the humor in check, because it's right at the level of WWE humor. Hopefully one consequence of AEW is that WWE with it's new regimes will allow their guys to go all out in their matches now. In their primes, Bischoff and Heyman both let guys go out and have the best matches they could, wherever they were on the card. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Jul 1st, 2019 06:28 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 6th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: Everything I've seen it's getting hit pretty hard...said some of the wrestling was good but overall it was a massive step backwards... Btw, can we discuss what a punk ass Omega is? For the last week AEW guys have been taking digs all over twitter at the WWE, basically it's been open game on WWE since the last AEW PPV, a PPV that had Cody beating up HHH's throne, them constantly taking shots at them. So WWE puts the Evolve show on their Network the same night AEW has a show on July 13th and Omega tweets how horrid it is the WWE would DARE program against their little charity gig..I mean, come on dude, you guys wanted a battle, you can't get butthurt when they fire a shot back at you.. He's tweeting that WWE is basically stealing money from a charity but all I read was they're donating the live gate to the charity so another show on the WWE network at the same time isn't costing them dick in dollars.. Yeah, I wrote this in the EVOLVE thread a few days ago: Kenny Omega threw a hissy fit on Twitter (since deleted) about WWE having blood on their hands for going to Saudi Arabia and now they are trying to ruin AEW's "charity show". My feelings on Saudi Arabia are very clear, but Omega needs to understand that it's competition time now and he's drawn the ire of the most powerful force in wrestling. It's time to step up and not bitch on Twitter about counter-programming, a measure taken by WWE since about 1985 or so. Come on, don't be fucking naïve. Omega is the top star in the company posing the most serious threat to WWE in 20 years, so if he can't take the pressure behind the scenes he's going to have a really tough time over the next few years. Last edited on Mon Jul 1st, 2019 06:28 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Jul 1st, 2019 06:36 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 7th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: For those who have asked why gaming personality Golden Boy worked as an announcer at AEW Fyterfest, it was the same reason the Michael Nakazawa vs. Alex JeBailey bout aired - it was part of the partnership to hold the event in conjunction with the CEO x Gaming convention. Kenny Omega was the point person for that relationship, as he was last year when the event was promoted in conjunction at the time with New Japan Pro Wrestling. There's been a lot of attention to the chairshot that Cody took on the show. Obviously, no one involved wanted him to get busted open. It appears that when he turned, the top of the chair caught him accidentally. In the context of the storyline, it made Shawn Spears a villain, but with the way today's audience looks at things, the heat isn't on the heel but on the promotion for allowing it to happen. They could have had the exact same moment with Cody getting his hands up for the same dramatic effect, so to me, it's just not worth it to do the unprotected shots. I get the impression that the promotion certainly took note of the negative response and I don't think we'll ever see them regularly, but I do want to point out there's a big hypocrisy in fans being so negative to the chairshot while also praising all the bumps through barbed wire, off ladders and onto thumbtacks on the same show. You can't bemoan someone taking crazy physical punishment and then cheer someone else on for doing the same thing. It's all physically detrimental to those involved. Kip Sabian vs. Hangman Page has been officially added to the 7/13 Fight for the Fallen event in Jacksonville, Florida. Brandi Rhodes noted on social media that Cody had 12 staples in his head the first time he asked her out and now here they are years later, married, and he's back with 12 staples in his head. That's romance, I, uh, guess? Tony Khan noted during a post media scrum that the hardcore style matches that aired on Fyterfest would be seen on AEW PPV but would not be on the weekly AEW TV series when it debuts this October. He also shot down the idea of doing intergender wrestling in the promotion as he's not a fan of it. Alex Marvez was backstage at Fyterfest and filmed material for future AEW use. Last edited on Mon Jul 1st, 2019 06:36 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Jul 1st, 2019 08:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 8th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: AEW needs to get a streaming service going and compile all of this shit into one location. I don’t have the Fite app, until this show I’d never heard of the bleacher report thing and I’m not going to waste my time looking around YouTube for videos from the elite and Chris van velt and whoever else. I’m old, lazy and not all that interested as I already have way too much wrestling on tap that I never have enough time to watch ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2019 01:58 am PM Quote Reply 9th Post freebirdsforever2001 Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Have zero interest in AEW or the WWE as of now. NJPW for me, baby! Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 3rd, 2019 09:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 10th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Breaking today is that Private Party, pretty much the only good thing about the Fyter Fest pre-show, were offered contracts by the Young Bucks as soon as they stepped backstage. Last edited on Wed Jul 3rd, 2019 09:31 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 3rd, 2019 11:22 pm PM Quote Reply 11th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Breaking today is that Private Party, pretty much the only good thing about the Fyter Fest pre-show, were offered contracts by the Young Bucks as soon as they stepped backstage. There was footage of this on Being the Elite that was uploaded on Monday. Fake news. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 18th, 2019 04:56 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 12th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: It was announced that Shawn Spears will be managed by Tully Blanchard. Hoping it's not just for the one match vs Cody. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 19th, 2019 04:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 13th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: It was announced that Shawn Spears will be managed by Tully Blanchard. Hoping it's not just for the one match vs Cody. AEW's Facebook post says they've come to terms on "a multi-show agreement" with Tully. So it won't be one show, but I also don't expect it to last all that long. If Tully wanted back in full-time, I imagine he'd be more likely to support his daughter in Impact and only have to appear for the limited TV tapings and special events they have, rather than be on TV weekly for AEW on TNT. Unless they threw a stupid amount of money at him, which really could be better spent elsewhere. As much as I like Tully, him managing in 2019 won't mean much. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 24th, 2019 07:41 pm PM Quote Reply 14th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: The first Wednesday Night Dynamite broadcast officially announced:<A HREF="https://mobile.twitter.com/CapitalOneArena/status/1154060110215467009/photo/1" TARGET="_blank">A> Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 24th, 2019 07:51 pm PM Quote Reply 15th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Here is the YouTube link for the AEW on TNT trailer, it's very good: <A HREF="https://youtu.be/R_pA-9ItkQ8" TARGET="_blank">https://youtu.be/R_pA-9ItkQ8A> Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 24th, 2019 10:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 16th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW/TNT Press Release: July 24, 2019 – WarnerMedia announced today that the new professional wrestling league All Elite Wrestling (AEW) will begin airing its two-hour weekly matches on TNT on Wednesday, Oct. 2, from 8 p.m. ET to 10 p.m. ET. The highly-anticipated, action-packed matches will take place in different cities across the nation each week on Wednesdays, starting in Washington, D.C., at the famed Capital One Arena. Ticket pricing and on-sale date for the televised live event will be announced on Monday, July 29, at 12 p.m. ET via AEW’s social media platforms. AEW features a world-class roster of diverse male and female wrestlers, giving fans a new wrestling experience for the first time in 20 years. Founded by President and CEO Tony Khan, AEW is headlined by Cody & Brandi Rhodes, The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson), Kenny Omega, Hangman Adam Page, Chris Jericho and Jon Moxley. The roster is also filled with incredibly skilled competitors including Nyla Rose, Awesome Kong, Dustin Rhodes, Jungle Boy, Dr. Britt Baker, MJF and SCU. In addition to being in-ring talent, Cody, The Young Bucks and Kenny Omega also serve as EVPs with Brandi Rhodes serving as Chief Brand Officer. Renowned commentator Jim Ross has also joined the league. Focused on fast-paced, high-impact competitions, AEW offers fans more athleticism along with real sports analytics. Wrestlers are also given freedom to explore their characters and highlight their athletic abilities. Introducing statistics to wrestling for the first time ever, AEW will raise the stakes for its matches and deepen fan engagement by tracking each competitor’s wins and losses as wrestlers pursue championships. Their moves and damage to their opponents will also be analyzed on-air to provide insights into their winning streaks. WarnerMedia has been offering fans exclusive access to AEW’s previous matches that kicked off in May. Their extremely popular events DOUBLE OR NOTHING, FYTER FEST and FIGHT FOR THE FALLEN were all streamed on B/R Live. The highly anticipated ALL OUT event in Chicago on Saturday, Aug. 31, will also stream on the platform. B/R Live’s high fan engagement provides an invaluable opportunity to build AEW’s audience and maximize its viewership Last edited on Wed Jul 24th, 2019 10:15 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 24th, 2019 11:03 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 17th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Capital One arena in Washington is a 20, 000 seater for hockey and basketball. Interesting. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 24th, 2019 11:11 pm PM Quote Reply 18th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: With their staging and gimmicks, I would guess between 12,000-16,000 tickets will be put on sale. Still seems like too large of an arena for a weekly TV show, but I guess they want to kick off the inaugural show on TNT with a big bang, no pun intended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jul 30th, 2019 07:08 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 19th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW announced their first TV match on TNT on Oct. 2. It will be Cody vs. Sammy Guevara. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 31st, 2019 12:01 am PM Quote Reply 20th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: There was some online hype, pretty sure there was even a petition, a few months ago where fans were wanting the first match on TNT to feature Jushin Liger vs. Brian Pillman Jr. to mimick Nitro's first ever match. It would of been kind of cool, but not good business since I don't believe AEW has plans for either guy. Last edited on Wed Jul 31st, 2019 12:02 am by Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 31st, 2019 12:39 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 21st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: There was some online hype, pretty sure there was even a petition, a few months ago where fans were wanting the first match on TNT to feature Jushin Liger vs. Brian Pillman Jr. to mimick Nitro's first ever match. It would of been kind of cool, but not good business since I don't believe AEW has plans for either guy. I hope that match happens somewhere as part of Liger’s retirement tour, but to want AEW to immediately douse itself with the stench of WCW is beyond stupid. Not to mention the fact that you don’t launch a hot new company with an old guy 3 months away from retirement. No one gives a fuck about Nitro’s first match except 6 smarks. Everyone else just remembers Nitro sucked, or aren’t old enough to remember it at all. What a dumb idea. Last edited on Wed Jul 31st, 2019 12:45 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 31st, 2019 01:28 am PM Quote Reply 22nd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: There was some online hype, pretty sure there was even a petition, a few months ago where fans were wanting the first match on TNT to feature Jushin Liger vs. Brian Pillman Jr. to mimick Nitro's first ever match. It would of been kind of cool, but not good business since I don't believe AEW has plans for either guy. I hope that match happens somewhere as part of Liger’s retirement tour, but to want AEW to immediately douse itself with the stench of WCW is beyond stupid. Not to mention the fact that you don’t launch a hot new company with an old guy 3 months away from retirement. No one gives a fuck about Nitro’s first match except 6 smarks. Everyone else just remembers Nitro sucked, or aren’t old enough to remember it at all. What a dumb idea. I would also like to see Liger vs. Pillman Jr. before he retires. I also agree with you for the most part that the stench of WCW is not what AEW needs. That being said, the Liger-Pillman match would be looked at as nostalgia, and RAW's rating last week proved again that nostalgia draws tv ratings. Just saying. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 2nd, 2019 09:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 23rd Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: pwinsider.com ll Elite Wrestling has officially sold out their October 2nd Washington, D.C. TV taping, which will be their debut on TNT. The announcement that the show is sold out should come at any time. It is possible additional tickets will be released once they finalize production. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 2nd, 2019 11:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 24th Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: Because of the stage set, there are some significant seat kills in DC, but it still looks like it's set up for a capacity in the 13,000 range. I've been an AEW skeptic, but this fast sellout at that capacity is impressive. Currently about 15% of all tickets sold are on StubHub, assuming I've estimated the capacity correctly, with a current get in price of $27.50. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Aug 5th, 2019 04:24 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 25th Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: In a Smart move TNT and AEW bought ad time before showings of Rock's Hobbs and Shaw movie ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Aug 6th, 2019 02:35 pm PM Quote Reply 26th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="/users/484.html" TARGET="_blank">Heenan FanA> wrote: <A HREF="/users/16.html" TARGET="_blank">srossiA> wrote: <A HREF="/users/484.html" TARGET="_blank">Heenan FanA> wrote: There was some online hype, pretty sure there was even a petition, a few months ago where fans were wanting the first match on TNT to feature Jushin Liger vs. Brian Pillman Jr. to mimick Nitro's first ever match. It would of been kind of cool, but not good business since I don't believe AEW has plans for either guy. I hope that match happens somewhere as part of Liger’s retirement tour, but to want AEW to immediately douse itself with the stench of WCW is beyond stupid. Not to mention the fact that you don’t launch a hot new company with an old guy 3 months away from retirement. No one gives a fuck about Nitro’s first match except 6 smarks. Everyone else just remembers Nitro sucked, or aren’t old enough to remember it at all. What a dumb idea. I would also like to see Liger vs. Pillman Jr. before he retires. I also agree with you for the most part that the stench of WCW is not what AEW needs. That being said, the Liger-Pillman match would be looked at as nostalgia, and RAW's rating last week proved again that nostalgia draws tv ratings. Just saying. Attached Image (viewed 94 times): Defyance-Forever-Jushin-Liger-Young-Lions-vs-Pillman-Gunz.jpg Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Aug 11th, 2019 04:58 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 27th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Roddy Piper’s daughter Teal will compete in the battle royal at All Out. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 16th, 2019 10:17 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 28th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2019/08/16/aew-stays-hot-sells-out-tnt-shows-in-boston-and-philadelphia/#10f1ed886424" TARGET="_blank">https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2019/08/16/aew-stays-hot-sells-out-tnt-shows-in-boston-and-philadelphia/#10f1ed886424A> AEW Stays Hot, Sells Out TNT Shows In Boston And Philadelphia AEW's streak of overachieving momentum continued as its next to AEW on TNT showcases in Boston and Philadelphia sold out just over an hour after tickets went on sale at 12 p.m. EST. AEW on TNT will air in Boston on Wednesday, October 9 in the Agganis Arena, which has a capacity of 7,200, and on October 16 in Philadelphia's Liacouras Center, which carries a capacity of 10,200. After scheduling its major shows on the west coast for AEW Double or Nothing (Las Vegas), its home base of Florida for Fight for the Fallen (Jacksonville) and Fyter Fest (Daytona Beach) and the midwest for All Out (Chicago), AEW has leaned exclusively on the northeast for its early run of television tapings. Tickets for AEW On TNT's premiere <A HREF="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2019/08/02/aew-on-tnt-tickets-sell-out-the-capitol-one-arena-in-hours-amid-continued-demand/#bbee8197aebf" TARGET="_blank">sold out within hoursA> for its Washington D.C. debut on October 2, while AEW targeted the traditionally hot wrestling markets of Boston and Philadelphia for its next two offerings. The strategy is wise from the standpoint that not only is AEW targeting strong wrestling markets, but the east coast cities in question are known to turn out some of the hotter crowds in pro wrestling. This will give the upstart promotion the ability to launch its first month of television shows in front of more engaged and motivated fanbases thereby facilitating a much better television product. The back-and-forth between AEW and WWE has only escalated since its last sellout around this time last month. During <A HREF="https://www.thewrap.com/vince-mcmahon-wwe-content-pg-attitude-era-gory-crap-aew/" TARGET="_blank">WWE's 2Q 2019 earnings callA>, Vince McMahon casually dismissed AEW as "blood and guts," noting their brand of decided violence was nothing more than "gory crap that we graduated from." In his veiled criticism of AEW's more edgy product, McMahon made sure to note that he does not see TNT tolerating this content, a comment seemingly designed to <A HREF="https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/vince-mcmahon-may-be-trying-to-hurt-aew-through-their-advertisers/" TARGET="_blank">scare off potential advertisersA> as the Chairman willingly engages in dirty pool. Cody Rhodes, AEW's unofficial clap-back spokesperson, was <A HREF="https://www.cagesideseats.com/2019/8/2/20751648/cody-rhodes-responds-vince-mcmahon-blood-guts" TARGET="_blank">sure to respondA> with one of his garden-variety rah rah speeches in a recent video. "Every man or woman who ever stepped foot in the ring regardless of race, color, creed, political affiliation, sexual identity has felt blood and guts and passion," said William Wallace Rhodes. "Because if we don’t care, they don’t care. So if you say we’re blood and guts, I say you bet your ass we’re blood and guts.” Rhodes' motivational speech was <A HREF="https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/04/cody-rhodes-responds-to-triple-h-piss-ant-comment-about-aew-653583/" TARGET="_blank">reminiscent of his responseA> to Triple H calling AEW a "pissant" company at the WWE Hall of Fame earlier this year. The budding wrestling war has also manifested itself through counter programming, most notably WWE airing EVOLVE 131 on the WWE Network during AEW Fight for the Fallen. The move drew tweet-and-delete criticism (the most intense kind of criticism) from Kenny Omega, who <A HREF="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2019/06/26/kenny-omega-rips-wwe-as-evolve-131-goes-head-to-head-with-aew-charity-show-on-july-13/#758c53d1cf81" TARGET="_blank">took exceptionA> to WWE's attempts to undermine a charity show that <A HREF="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2019/07/13/aew-fight-for-the-fallen-results-news-and-notes-after-aew-raises-150000-for-gun-violence-victims/#97be362faa57" TARGET="_blank">raised $150,000 for victims of gun violence.A> WWE will also air NXT TakeOver: Cardiff opposite AEW All Out on August 31, while rumors of NXT moving to Wednesday nights on FS1—pitting them head-to-head against AEW on TNT—are so prominent they've become <A HREF="https://www.mandatory.com/wrestlezone/news/1123007-triple-h-on-rumors-that-nxt-is-headed-to-fs1-and-future-of-wwe-network" TARGET="_blank">regular topics of discussionA> during Triple H's media conference calls. Tensions between the two promotions can also be seen and heard in interviews with prominent WWE Superstars. WWE Universal champion Seth Rollins has aggressively vowed to "<A HREF="https://comicbook.com/wwe/2019/07/23/seth-rollins-jon-moxley-aew-going-to-knock-them-dead/" TARGET="_blank">knock [AEW] deadA>," while top star Roman Reigns considered it "<A HREF="https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/08/roman-reigns-says-calling-aew-competition-to-wwe-is-generous-658128/" TARGET="_blank">generousA>" to refer to the national promotion as competition. With AEW set to air on television starting in October, shots continue to be fired and it's only mid-August. Welcome to the jungle. Last edited on Fri Aug 16th, 2019 10:17 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 05:27 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 29th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Not one post on All Out? What did people think of the show? I thought it was fine but nothing too spectacular. The consensus seems to be that NXT UK Takeover was better. AEW is also taking some heat for putting the title on Jericho, although I thought that was the obvious move. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 05:38 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 30th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: Anyone who thinks that belt should have been on anyone OTHER than Jericho doesn't know the sport and doesn't understand how important television is to AEW. He was the ONLY person to put the belt on the first time.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 05:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 31st Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: I agree. By making Chris Jericho the champ, you have the belt on by far the best known star in the company as a way of attracting mainstream fans when TV starts in October. Then they start building up a top contender on TV so that at the next big PPV, a homegrown AEW star topples the WWE lifer to win the World Title. In other news, I believe the arena in Washington DC is set up for 14,000. It holds more for NBA and NHL games, but the stage set and the hard camera/production area kill a bunch of seats. Right now StubHub has 3,537 seats for sale, 25% of the capacity. The get in price is just $10 which means people are probably selling at a loss right now, just to move the seats. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 05:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 32nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: Anyone who thinks that belt should have been on anyone OTHER than Jericho doesn't know the sport and doesn't understand how important television is to AEW. He was the ONLY person to put the belt on the first time.. As the saying goes, the biggest marks are behind the curtain and Baron Corbin and some others were having a field day with the decision, calling AEW and their fans hypocrites. Corbin missed the part where people were upset with WWE for putting the belt on part-timers like Lesnar and Goldberg and weren't just getting on them because they were older. Certainly the match that Jericho had with Adam Page was better than any match Lesnar has had in years and that Goldberg has ever had. Like I said, going into the debut shows on TNT, Jericho obviously needed to be champion. That was a no-brainer, although many seemed to think that AEW was going to "make" Page. These people are clueless. Last edited on Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 05:53 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 06:24 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 33rd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: Anyone who thinks that belt should have been on anyone OTHER than Jericho doesn't know the sport and doesn't understand how important television is to AEW. He was the ONLY person to put the belt on the first time.. As the saying goes, the biggest marks are behind the curtain and Baron Corbin and some others were having a field day with the decision, calling AEW and their fans hypocrites. Corbin missed the part where people were upset with WWE for putting the belt on part-timers like Lesnar and Goldberg and weren't just getting on them because they were older. Certainly the match that Jericho had with Adam Page was better than any match Lesnar has had in years and that Goldberg has ever had. Like I said, going into the debut shows on TNT, Jericho obviously needed to be champion. That was a no-brainer, although many seemed to think that AEW was going to "make" Page. These people are clueless. If they want to make Hangman Page the champ, their TV audience needs to see him beat everybody on the roster first. Otherwise, you go into TV on TNT with a very Indy look and feel. There's nobody out there that doesn't believe Chris Jericho isn't worthy of a major belt at this stage of the game, I mean, he's been WWE Champion in the past few years and has held every belt in WWE. He also was NJPW IC Champ in the past year. He's as well known as anybody that they could put in the spot. And whomever beats him will get a huge rub, and it can't be Cody or Omega. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 06:28 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 34th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Also worth noting that they've been beating Omega and I wouldn't say burying him, but questioning his motivation on commentary. So the strategy seems to be to take the top guy they have and make him work his way up from scratch again, rather than assume that the audience will just accept him as the top guy from the get-go based on his run in NJPW. I think that's smart. It also gave PAC a huge rub to beat him coming off of a WWE run where he always had great matches but had the stench of a segregated Cruiserweight on him. Last edited on Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 06:32 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 06:46 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 35th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Also worth noting that they've been beating Omega and I wouldn't say burying him, but questioning his motivation on commentary. So the strategy seems to be to take the top guy they have and make him work his way up from scratch again, rather than assume that the audience will just accept him as the top guy from the get-go based on his run in NJPW. I think that's smart. It also gave PAC a huge rub to beat him coming off of a WWE run where he always had great matches but had the stench of a segregated Cruiserweight on him. Agree 100%. Kenny needs to be built up on TV to the US audience, because the audience that is going to these events knows who he is and he's basically teflon to them. He doesn't get hurt by these losses (and it makes me think Mox was going over too). ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 08:21 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 36th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider announced that Marty Scurll's contract with ROH ends in November. Obviously there is huge speculation that he will wind up joining all his friends in AEW, although ROH is reportedly going to make a strong bid to keep him. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 01:33 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 37th Post Blazer Head Auditor, CPA Joined: Sun Sep 4th, 2011 Location: Posts: 9544 Status: Offline Mana: Belt stolen out of limo while Y2J ate at Longhorn Steakhouse. You can't make this shit up. Check Ebay. ____________________ "Well, maybe I like the nightlife just a little bit more than I like the damn gym, jack! And when you're makin' $500,000 a year, there ain't no reason to change what you're doing." - Dusty Rhodes, 1/4/1986 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 01:57 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 38th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: The All Elite Wrestling Championship belt was won by Chris Jericho on Saturday 8/31 and lost on Sunday 9/1 after Jericho returned to Florida. The Tallahassee, Florida Police Department Records Department confirmed to PWInsider.com this afternoon that a police report was filed by Chris Jericho reporting Grand Theft of a Championship belt. PWInsider.com is awaiting a copy of the report, but has been advised that until an investigation is closed, aspects of the report will be redacted, per department policy. PWInsider.com has confirmed the belt in question was the AEW title Jericho captured at All Out the night before in Chicago, defeating Adam Page. The belt was inside a limo that Jericho had used to transport himself from the airport. The AEW title belt was inside the limo. Jericho, who had picked up the wrong luggage, ate at a restaurant while his driver returned the incorrect luggage back to the airport. When the driver returned, the AEW title belt was no longer in the limo, resulting in police being called. A version of the<A HREF="https://blogofdoom.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/585ace9.jpg" TARGET="_blank"> police report floating onlineA> reads: Grand Theft/ 2400 N. Monroe Street / 7:13 PM "The victim reported the theft of his championship wrestling belt while he was eating inside Longhorn Steakhouse. The victim stated he arrived at the Millionaire Club Airport Terminal and place(d) the belt inside his rented limousine. The limo driver shuttled the victim to Longhorn for dinner. The victim remained at Longhorn while the limo driver returned to the airport. The victim had taken the wrong luggage from the airport and the driver took it back to the terminal. When the driver picked up the victim from the restaurant, the belt was missing. Responding officers searched the limo and airport for the belt without success. On-call CID (Note from Mike: Criminal Investigation Department) was consulted, and forensics responded to the scene. Victim: Christopher "Jericho" Irvine, W/M, 11/9/70" PWInsider.com was told the case remains open and police are investigating. Note: AEW, on Instagram, responded to comments regarding the situation, writing, "Authorities are working on it as we speak. Thank you for your concern." Last edited on Wed Sep 4th, 2019 01:58 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 02:07 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 39th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/365.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu365')">Blazera> wrote: Belt stolen out of limo while Y2J ate at Longhorn Steakhouse. You can't make this shit up. Check Ebay. That man needs a raise; the champ eating at longhorn? For shame ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 02:14 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 40th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/365.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu365')">Blazera> wrote: Belt stolen out of limo while Y2J ate at Longhorn Steakhouse. You can't make this shit up. Check Ebay. That man needs a raise; the champ eating at longhorn? For shame Wrestlers usually eat at Waffle Houses and Cracker Barrels. This is fine dining. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 02:27 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 41st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Jericho has already cut a nice in-character heel promo on the thief that has been posted to all AEW platforms. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 03:28 am PM Quote Reply 42nd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/365.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu365')">Blazera> wrote: Belt stolen out of limo while Y2J ate at Longhorn Steakhouse. You can't make this shit up. Check Ebay. That man needs a raise; the champ eating at longhorn? For shame Wrestlers usually eat at Waffle Houses and Cracker Barrels. This is fine dining. Back in the day, a couple cans of tuna and a 5 pound bag of taters. Hell, McDonald's was fine dining up until the mid 1980's. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 04:03 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 43rd Post BuddyPSHayes Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Anywhere I Damn Well Please Posts: 4320 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/365.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu365')">Blazera> wrote: Belt stolen out of limo while Y2J ate at Longhorn Steakhouse. You can't make this shit up. Check Ebay. That man needs a raise; the champ eating at longhorn? For shame Wrestlers usually eat at Waffle Houses and Cracker Barrels. This is fine dining. Back in the day, a couple cans of tuna and a 5 pound bag of taters. Hell, McDonald's was fine dining up until the mid 1980's. Ted Dibiase talked about "bologna blowouts" in one of his books. Someone would stop at a 7-Eleven or supermarket and get a loaf of bread, a pack of Oscar Mayer bologna and a case of beer (pre-open container law). ____________________ "The only area I can think of to avoid in Houston is Houston." - srossi Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 04:18 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 44th Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: Someone needs to find RTruth. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 04:28 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 45th Post Blazer Head Auditor, CPA Joined: Sun Sep 4th, 2011 Location: Posts: 9544 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/365.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu365')">Blazera> wrote: Belt stolen out of limo while Y2J ate at Longhorn Steakhouse. You can't make this shit up. Check Ebay. That man needs a raise; the champ eating at longhorn? For shame Wrestlers usually eat at Waffle Houses and Cracker Barrels. This is fine dining. Back in the day, a couple cans of tuna and a 5 pound bag of taters. Hell, McDonald's was fine dining up until the mid 1980's. Forgot the can of pork n' beans, opened up with a pocket knife. Wrestlers? Shit, this was my college menu. Add some Ramen, 50 cent box of mac and cheese, and splurge on the mega package of bologna and Wonder Bread. ____________________ "Well, maybe I like the nightlife just a little bit more than I like the damn gym, jack! And when you're makin' $500,000 a year, there ain't no reason to change what you're doing." - Dusty Rhodes, 1/4/1986 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 04:29 am PM Quote Reply 46th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/12.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu12')">BuddyPSHayesa> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/365.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu365')">Blazera> wrote: Belt stolen out of limo while Y2J ate at Longhorn Steakhouse. You can't make this shit up. Check Ebay. That man needs a raise; the champ eating at longhorn? For shame Wrestlers usually eat at Waffle Houses and Cracker Barrels. This is fine dining. Back in the day, a couple cans of tuna and a 5 pound bag of taters. Hell, McDonald's was fine dining up until the mid 1980's. Ted Dibiase talked about "bologna blowouts" in one of his books. Someone would stop at a 7-Eleven or supermarket and get a loaf of bread, a pack of Oscar Mayer bologna and a case of beer (pre-open container law). The bologna blowouts are definitely a pro wrestling tradition. One of the best ever things about CAC, but I heard they ended it? I haven't been in 6 years due to health reasons. My all-time favorite cheapskate is probably Angelo "The Miser" Poffo. Supposedly, he would go into waffle houses and low end restaurants. He would simply order a free water in a tall cup, then take ketchup packets and the free saltine crackers at the salad bar (well, free if you actually ordered a salad), add everything together, and make tomato soup. I've heard this story from various people over the years, and I don't think it was part of his gimmick. He didn't start going by "The Miser" character until late in his career. Last edited on Wed Sep 4th, 2019 05:16 am by Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 04:55 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 47th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: Sounds like these guys would have been better off working at the waffle house ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 05:29 am PM Quote Reply 48th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: Sounds like these guys would have been better off working at the waffle house Maybe so, but what about the perks? I hear the young rats in the back of the wrestling arena are WAAAY cooler than the young rats in the waffle house food storage pantry. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 02:36 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 49th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Reading social media posts not only makes me question my being a wrestling fan, but also makes me understand how come there are so many people struggling to keep their minimum wage jobs...there are some really dumb people in this world and that’s being kind. But I did get one good laugh just now on a Jericho post about having the AEW belt stolen. Some guy posted: “Rikishi stole the belt - he did it for The Rock”. And I don’t know why but I popped like hell for that line. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 02:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 50th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Reading social media posts not only makes me question my being a wrestling fan, but also makes me understand how come there are so many people struggling to keep their minimum wage jobs...there are some really dumb people in this world and that’s being kind. I have one Facebook friend who shares wrestling newz stories. It's my only link to wrestling on social media. So whenever I am at my lowest point of despair in reading comments about politics and wondering how people could be so dumb, I read of the comments on wrestling and suddenly I understand. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 02:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 51st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Brandi tweeted some video of the new Women's belt. Very different look, much more slender. I like it. Just don't give it to Jericho. <A HREF="https://twitter.com/TheBrandiRhodes/status/1168948514921037826/video/1" TARGET="_blank">/video/1A> ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 03:02 pm PM Quote Reply 52nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Do police reports of petty theft really make their way to the internets? You're all being worked, you sad marks. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 03:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 53rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Do police reports of petty theft really make their way to the internets? You're all being worked, you sad marks. Even stolen replica belts make the news sometimes: <A HREF="https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/29/us/thieves-return-boys-wrestling-belt-trnd/index.html" TARGET="_blank">https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/29/us/thieves-return-boys-wrestling-belt-trnd/index.htmlA> ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 04:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 54th Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/12.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu12')">BuddyPSHayesa> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/365.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu365')">Blazera> wrote: Belt stolen out of limo while Y2J ate at Longhorn Steakhouse. You can't make this shit up. Check Ebay. That man needs a raise; the champ eating at longhorn? For shame Wrestlers usually eat at Waffle Houses and Cracker Barrels. This is fine dining. Back in the day, a couple cans of tuna and a 5 pound bag of taters. Hell, McDonald's was fine dining up until the mid 1980's. Ted Dibiase talked about "bologna blowouts" in one of his books. Someone would stop at a 7-Eleven or supermarket and get a loaf of bread, a pack of Oscar Mayer bologna and a case of beer (pre-open container law). The bologna blowouts are definitely a pro wrestling tradition. One of the best ever things about CAC, but I heard they ended it? I haven't been in 6 years due to health reasons. My all-time favorite cheapskate is probably Angelo "The Miser" Poffo. Supposedly, he would go into waffle houses and low end restaurants. He would simply order a free water in a tall cup, then take ketchup packets and the free saltine crackers at the salad bar (well, free if you actually ordered a salad), add everything together, and make tomato soup. I've heard this story from various people over the years, and I don't think it was part of his gimmick. He didn't start going by "The Miser" character until late in his career. Another one I heard about Angelo Poffo was he'd go to a diner or lunch counter, order something like a cup of coffee or whatever and then as people finished their food and left, he'd raid their plates for leftover food before they could be bused out. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 04:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 55th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: The bologna blowouts are definitely a pro wrestling tradition. One of the best ever things about CAC, but I heard they ended it? I haven't been in 6 years due to health reasons. My all-time favorite cheapskate is probably Angelo "The Miser" Poffo. Supposedly, he would go into waffle houses and low end restaurants. He would simply order a free water in a tall cup, then take ketchup packets and the free saltine crackers at the salad bar (well, free if you actually ordered a salad), add everything together, and make tomato soup. I've heard this story from various people over the years, and I don't think it was part of his gimmick. He didn't start going by "The Miser" character until late in his career. This was not at all uncommon for people from his generation, although of course he had money by this time. The "meal" was very well known from the Depression era though. People used to go into automats when they were all the rage, the first fast food places, and do this same exact thing all the time. If they had nowhere else to go, they'd practically live in the automats and eat this all day. Last edited on Wed Sep 4th, 2019 04:52 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 06:02 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 56th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW has thanked the Tallahassee Police Dept. for locating the belt. They posted a pic with one of the cops holding it. It wasn't a work. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 08:53 pm PM Quote Reply 57th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW has thanked the Tallahassee Police Dept. for locating the belt. They posted a pic with one of the cops holding it. It wasn't a work. As if Tallahassee was the name of a real place! Next you'll be telling me Parts Unknown, Truth or Consequences NM and Rio de Janeiro are real places as well. Last edited on Wed Sep 4th, 2019 08:53 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 09:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 58th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: I didn't catch it live, but Corey Graves trolled Jericho last night on SD! After Drake Maverick pinned Bo Dallas to regain the 24/7 title, Graves said, "I'm sure Drake's gonna grab his wife and take a limousine to a chain restaurant." ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 09:30 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 59th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Corey Graves needs to remember that he can’t take any more shots to the head before he speaks, because someday he’s gonna piss off the wrong person with his mouth. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 10:08 pm PM Quote Reply 60th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Vince is too out of touch to get any of Corey Graves' references, but someone could always stooge him off I guess. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 10:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 61st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Corey Graves needs to remember that he can’t take any more shots to the head before he speaks, because someday he’s gonna piss off the wrong person with his mouth. Chris Jericho isn't exactly Killer Karl Kox. No one is anymore. He'll be fine. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 06:53 am PM Quote Reply 62nd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/72.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu72')">tamaliea> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/12.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu12')">BuddyPSHayesa> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/365.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu365')">Blazera> wrote: Belt stolen out of limo while Y2J ate at Longhorn Steakhouse. You can't make this shit up. Check Ebay. That man needs a raise; the champ eating at longhorn? For shame Wrestlers usually eat at Waffle Houses and Cracker Barrels. This is fine dining. Back in the day, a couple cans of tuna and a 5 pound bag of taters. Hell, McDonald's was fine dining up until the mid 1980's. Ted Dibiase talked about "bologna blowouts" in one of his books. Someone would stop at a 7-Eleven or supermarket and get a loaf of bread, a pack of Oscar Mayer bologna and a case of beer (pre-open container law). The bologna blowouts are definitely a pro wrestling tradition. One of the best ever things about CAC, but I heard they ended it? I haven't been in 6 years due to health reasons. My all-time favorite cheapskate is probably Angelo "The Miser" Poffo. Supposedly, he would go into waffle houses and low end restaurants. He would simply order a free water in a tall cup, then take ketchup packets and the free saltine crackers at the salad bar (well, free if you actually ordered a salad), add everything together, and make tomato soup. I've heard this story from various people over the years, and I don't think it was part of his gimmick. He didn't start going by "The Miser" character until late in his career. Another one I heard about Angelo Poffo was he'd go to a diner or lunch counter, order something like a cup of coffee or whatever and then as people finished their food and left, he'd raid their plates for leftover food before they could be bused out. Shit, who hasn't done that?  . Last edited on Thu Sep 5th, 2019 07:29 am by Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 05:50 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 63rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW notes from PWInsider: The AEW title belt was turned into Tallahassee Police today by someone who claimed they found the belt, inside its carrying case, on the side of the road. You have to give AEW credit in that the second it became a big talking point on social media, they turned it into an angle or sorts and got some attention with their Jericho promo. There have been no arrests made in the case, which is still considered open. WarnerMedia is bringing All Elite Wrestling to the 2019 New York Comic Con at tje Jacob Javits Center. Just two days after AEW's debut on TNT, there will be a panel discussion with AEW Champion Chris Jericho, Jon Moxley, Awesome Kong, Nyla Rose, Brandi Rhodes and Jungle Boy discussing the promotion and series on Friday 10/4 at 4:15 PM in Room 1A10. During his Starrcast panel over the weekend, Dean Malenko revealed he is battling Parkinson's Disease. Everyone at PWInsider.com wishes Malenko and his family the best. On his podcast, Chris Jericho noted that Kenny Omega and PAC were both upset as they ran out of time and didn't get to do everything they wanted in their match at All Out. It was also noted that the entire roster had their faces scanned for future usage, likely meaning video games or action figures. Jericho specifically noted he requested Aubrey Edwards to referee his match against Adam Page at the PPV. Malenko was the Producer for that match. Tool Guitarist Adam Jones was visiting backstage at All Out. Tickets for the 11/6 Charlotte TV Taping will go on sale this Friday. Killer Kross, Scarlett Bordeaux and Noelle Foley were in attendance at All Out. Last edited on Thu Sep 5th, 2019 05:50 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 07:44 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 64th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Meltzer is reporting that there were two separate incidents involving Bea Priestly at All Out, and she appeared to be the victim both times. The first was on camera as Britt Baker delivered some really stiff shots to her during the pre-show women's battle royal. These were reportedly a receipt for Priestly giving her a concussion at Fight for the Fallen. The second was after Priestly returned to the backstage area and was attacked by Sadie Gibbs. No word on what that was about, but they argued and then Gibbs swung at her, leading to Matt Jackson having to physically separate them. So suffice it to say, Priestly, who is expected to be a big part of the women's division, has some locker room heat on her early. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 09:06 pm PM Quote Reply 65th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Wrestlers be wrestlers I guess. The Khans can't be happy about all this carney bullshit going on though. I hope he knows what he's got himself into, or he'll be taking his money and going home soon. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 09:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 66th Post cdewar19 Joined: Mon Feb 22nd, 2010 Location: In The Ruins Of CanadInns Stadium, Manitoba Canada Posts: 1639 Status: Offline Mana: Does anyone blame Baker for laying it in on Priestly after she knocked her out? Priestly tried (possibly succeeded) in getting Gibbs un-booked in Japan. ____________________ "Getting promotionally outmaneuvered by TNA is like when Cartman lost all of his events at the Special Olympics." - tofu chipmunk Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 09:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 67th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/279.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu279')">cdewar19a> wrote: Does anyone blame Baker for laying it in on Priestly after she knocked her out? Priestly tried (possibly succeeded) in getting Gibbs un-booked in Japan. I've never even heard of Gibbs before last week so I don't know that story. It's probably time to focus on the bigger picture and stop worrying about petty indy shit though. Last edited on Thu Sep 5th, 2019 09:31 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 09:51 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 68th Post cdewar19 Joined: Mon Feb 22nd, 2010 Location: In The Ruins Of CanadInns Stadium, Manitoba Canada Posts: 1639 Status: Offline Mana: AEW seems to encourage petty shit on camera, so no surprise it happens in the back as well. ____________________ "Getting promotionally outmaneuvered by TNA is like when Cartman lost all of his events at the Special Olympics." - tofu chipmunk Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 10:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 69th Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: One wrestler giving stiff shots to another over the concussion incident seems like dated juvenile stuff, but if the parties involved consider it point made and case closed, so be it. If it lingers and fuels more incidents, that's another matter. The bit with Sadie Gibbs attacking Bea Priestly backstage is an offense worth of termination or at least a lengthy suspension. That sort of thing has to be red lighted immediately with consequences lest anyone else gets the idea this is acceptable conduct and there are future instances of this. Regarding Dean Malenko and Parkinson's, is it known when he was diagnosed? It could be a coincidence or hereditary, but the punishment his body took as a wrestler would suggest there's some sort of link given the numbers of football and hockey players who have had this disease. Was his decision to leave the WWE and go to AEW based on wanting a lighter schedule or perhaps superior health benefits, assuming Dean wasn't getting his health insurance via a spouse. Doug Furnas died of complications from Parkinson's Disease in 2012 and was lucky that his wife and now widow was and still is an executive with Geico. That meant health insurance was not an issue for Doug in the way that Brickhouse Brown died from untreated cancer when treatment could have extended or saved his life due to having no coverage and no way to therefore afford treatment. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 10:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 70th Post cdewar19 Joined: Mon Feb 22nd, 2010 Location: In The Ruins Of CanadInns Stadium, Manitoba Canada Posts: 1639 Status: Offline Mana: Do backstage WWE staff get health benefits? ____________________ "Getting promotionally outmaneuvered by TNA is like when Cartman lost all of his events at the Special Olympics." - tofu chipmunk Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 10:49 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 71st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: FYI for those that don't know, Britt Baker is Adam Cole's wife. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 6th, 2019 03:38 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 72nd Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/279.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu279')">cdewar19a> wrote: Do backstage WWE staff get health benefits? I am not completely certain, but am fairly sure the backstage people are considered employees and get benefits that include health insurance. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 6th, 2019 04:10 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 73rd Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: pwinsider.com The Tallahassee Democrat featured an interview with Frank Price the man who found Chris Jericho's All Elite Wrestling World Championship belt sitting in the middle of a turn lane on Highway 20 near Capital Circle Southwest. Price said he and his wife were returning from scalloping with his friends on his birthday. They retrieved the scufffed bag, later opening it to discover the title belt on Sunday 9/2. After taking pictures with the belt, which he and his wife believed was a replica, Price placed a lost and found listing for it on Craigslist. On Wednesday morning 9/4, he was made aware of the attention given to the lost belt and contacted authorities. He was asked to bring the belt in and did so, turning it in. While at the Police Department, he ran into the owner of the limo company Chris Jericho had used, who gave him a $200 rewards for returning the belt. The timing of their meeting at the department and the reward led to authorities looking into Price's whereabouts when the belt disappeared and he produced GPS and receipts to show he was not near the Longhorn Steakhouse where Jericho reported the title belt stolen. “It’s pretty comical,” Price said. “It’s like the start for a great screenplay. This story could have gone in so many other funny directions. There are so many funny twists to it.” Price, who is not a wrestling fan, said that he doubted the belt was actually stolen. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 6th, 2019 03:26 pm PM Quote Reply 74th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: pwinsider.com Price, who is not a wrestling fan, said that he doubted the belt was actually stolen. This is some really bad, ambiguous writing. Did Price not think that the belt had been stolen when he found it, but subsequently changed his mind? Or does he doubt the whole story that the belt was stolen? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 6th, 2019 03:28 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 75th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: pwinsider.com Price, who is not a wrestling fan, said that he doubted the belt was actually stolen. This is some really bad, ambiguous writing. Did Price not think that the belt had been stolen when he found it, but subsequently changed his mind? Or does he doubt the whole story that the belt was stolen? I took it to mean that he's not a fan and assumes everything involving wrestling is a work so someone just left it there to be found, but I could be wrong. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 6th, 2019 08:47 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 76th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: When I watched Malenko's RF Video shoot interview a few weeks ago I could tell something was wrong as his hands were shaking something fierce. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Sep 9th, 2019 07:06 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 77th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: All Elite Wrestling will hold a TV taping for their TNT series on Wednesday 11/13 in Nashville, TN, it was announced on the latest edition of their Being the Elite YouTube Series. The taping will be held at the legendary Nashville Municipal Auditorium, which housed the NWA Wrestlewar '89: Music City Showdown event headlined by the climax of the Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat trilogy for the NWA World Championship. The building has also housed WWE, WCW and TNA events over the years. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Sep 9th, 2019 10:41 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 78th Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: I am not sure where to put this, but since Chris Jericho was last a full time to semi full time wrestler in the WWE going back to mid 2017, it seems like he's aged about a decade. He made reference in an interview to his persona evolving again, as it has over the past decade or so mainly in the WWE. This time he's taking on that grizzled veteran look and personality. I can't tell if that's really the case or if it's a way of explaining things away. He'll be 49 in two months. The life of a pro wrestler is hard enough without also regularly touring in a rock band. Maybe the years have simply caught up to him physically. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 19th, 2019 03:34 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 79th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: There was an AEW commercial during NXT on USA. I’m not sure how USA let that happen. Certainly they could’ve rejected it. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 19th, 2019 04:14 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 80th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: Vince owns AEW it’s all a work  Last edited on Thu Sep 19th, 2019 04:15 am by Franchise ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 19th, 2019 04:56 am PM Quote Reply 81st Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: There was an AEW commercial during NXT on USA. I’m not sure how USA let that happen. Certainly they could’ve rejected it. Probably just a local ad, but even then Vince and/or USA Network could of easily nixed it. Just another example of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing in WWE in all probability. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 19th, 2019 04:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 82nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: There was an AEW commercial during NXT on USA. I’m not sure how USA let that happen. Certainly they could’ve rejected it. Probably just a local ad, but even then Vince and/or USA Network could of easily nixed it. Just another example of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing in WWE in all probability. PWInsider confirmed that AEW paid USA for a national commercial during NXT last night. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 20th, 2019 06:56 am PM Quote Reply 83rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: There was an AEW commercial during NXT on USA. I’m not sure how USA let that happen. Certainly they could’ve rejected it. Probably just a local ad, but even then Vince and/or USA Network could of easily nixed it. Just another example of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing in WWE in all probability. PWInsider confirmed that AEW paid USA for a national commercial during NXT last night. That's a real scoop right there... ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 20th, 2019 03:55 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 84th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Kenny Omega has called NXT wrestlers "dark match" talent and everyone is freaking out. I feel like no one can handle a wrestling war in the woke era. It ain't 1998 anymore and people are already getting way too offended by normal competitive chiding. PWInsider is getting all offended on behalf of others. LOL PWInsider: SK did an interview with Kenny Omega, where they asked him what he thought about "going to war" with NXT. It's fair to say his comments were inflammatory. "You can call it a war if you want. It's like, to me, we're in a completely different kind of business. I mean what they're doing is different from what we're doing. It's weird, because it's hard to say you're going to war with people that I call my friends. And yet, we are going to war. And yet, when I sit back and look at the grand picture, I'm going to war with these dudes that, if we were on the same show together, the same promotion...let's pretend there were no borders. Let's pretend there were no promotions. Let's just pretend there's just one big promotion. If these guys were in the same show as me, they'd be in the dark match. They'd be in the opening match of my main event match." I won't even comment on that other than to say, "WOW, I can't believe he would say that". OK, I have one more thing to say. Maybe you could dismiss this if Omega was "just a wrestler", MAYBE, but he is also an officer in the company. Dominic Dijakovic tweeted the following in response to Kenny Omega's comments earlier today about the NXT talent: Hey <A HREF="https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX" TARGET="_blank">@kennyomegamanxa> remember when my match with <A HREF="https://twitter.com/RealKeithLee" TARGET="_blank">@realkeithleea> embarrassed yours on your PWG homecoming weekend of BOLA 2017? Tune in this Wednesday to NXT TV on USA at 8pm so two developmental guys can show a real star how it’s done, again. Meanwhile, Omega responded to a tweeter who attacked Matt Riddle for Omega's statement about NXT having dark match and opening match wrestlers, noting that Matt Riddle was the exception to his statement. No he isn’t, I love Matt. We bros. Exceptions to every rule/statement — Kenny Omega (@kennyomegamanx) <A HREF="https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX/status/1174782537195053056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" TARGET="_blank">September 19, 2019A> Last edited on Fri Sep 20th, 2019 03:59 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 20th, 2019 04:48 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 85th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: I enjoy old school shit talking but Omega really comes across like a complainer to me; Nothing about him seems cool. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 20th, 2019 05:09 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 86th Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: Kenny Omega knows the fans will eat that stuff up. I don't take him seriously, but a lot of people will. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 20th, 2019 06:03 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 87th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: I enjoy old school shit talking but Omega really comes across like a complainer to me; Nothing about him seems cool. Cool doesn't mean the same thing to you and me that it means to the new generation. All the shit that used to get kids pushed into lockers when I was growing up (video games, anime, binge-watching TV shows on a Friday night before binge-watching was a thing) are now cool, and Omega and the AEW guys are into all that shit. This is cool for the YouTube generation. "Ric Flair cool" doesn't exist anymore, and considering how pathetic Ric Flair is now, I can't say that's a bad thing. Omega's trying to get a reaction, but the problem is he's already making exceptions and will wind up crying and apologizing within hours. I give him credit for attempting trash talk in 2019, but in the age of Twitter it never goes well. And the biggest marks are always behind the curtain and genuinely seem confused by it. Last edited on Fri Sep 20th, 2019 06:05 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 20th, 2019 07:33 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 88th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Mike Johnson is still butthurt: What did you make of Kenny Omega trashing pretty much the entire NXT roster?| If he actually meant it, it was pretty stupid, because if there's one aspect of WWE that the same fans AEW wants to cultivate as their own love, it's NXT. My guess is Omega did it to bait people into responding to get attention for the brand, but to me, it's a 21st century version of cheap heat, no different than Eric Bischoff giving away finishes to matches. It may elicit a reaction in the moment but it doesn't age well. I'd prefer to see everyone stay above that and just put the best product on, but when you go to war, you try to win by any means necessary. But, I wasn't a fan of him slagging on NXT's workers, no, especially since AEW would be the first to want to hire many of them if they were on the free market. Last edited on Fri Sep 20th, 2019 07:33 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 20th, 2019 07:54 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 89th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: I enjoy old school shit talking but Omega really comes across like a complainer to me; Nothing about him seems cool. Cool doesn't mean the same thing to you and me that it means to the new generation. All the shit that used to get kids pushed into lockers when I was growing up (video games, anime, binge-watching TV shows on a Friday night before binge-watching was a thing) are now cool, and Omega and the AEW guys are into all that shit. This is cool for the YouTube generation. "Ric Flair cool" doesn't exist anymore, and considering how pathetic Ric Flair is now, I can't say that's a bad thing. Omega's trying to get a reaction, but the problem is he's already making exceptions and will wind up crying and apologizing within hours. I give him credit for attempting trash talk in 2019, but in the age of Twitter it never goes well. And the biggest marks are always behind the curtain and genuinely seem confused by it. Let's be honest - Flair really wasn't cool in 1985 either, it just seemed like he was. Walking around looking like a million bucks all while not paying his taxes, cheating on his wife, walking out on his kids - that's the sign of a total piece of shit. But we loved him, so he was the coolest of the cool. Now Kenny Omega says something that he probably believes in his heart, and everybody has a problem with it? Everybody needs to just tend to their own business and move on. And Kenny Omega needs to shut the fuck up, because a large portion of the fan base that AEW is trying to draw doesn't give a rats ass about anybody on the roster that's not one of the VPs of the company, or Jericho and Mox. And I am one of those people. Not one person on this board is paying cash money to watch Darby Allin or Sammy Guevara. You can say that you will, but you won't. This company, which i've been really excited about because it's going to be an alternative to WWE, is already in trouble. People absolutely LOVE what HHH has done with NXT. If he is allowed to keep it up - and a job posting looking for writers for a "sports centric reality based program" lead me to believe that he will - a good number of the fans that AEW is looking for will think twice about what they are going to watch on Wednesdays. WWE is throwing stupid money at people like Gallows, Anderson, etc. so that they won't leave. AEW will be pulling from any indy roster that has a guy that WWE doesn't want, and they'll be pulling from ROH. And the ROH fans will get mega pissed at that. Unlike Madusa showing up on Nitro and shitcanning the Women's title, if an ROH guy pulled that shit on AEW programming, it would cause a revolt. I've been looking forward to AEW for a year. I believed that it was going to be a great alternative, and a lot of fun. I'm starting to think that Cody and the boys found the huge money mark that wrestlers have been looking for since the downfall of WCW and they are going to bleed every penny out of him that they can before jumping ship. I truly hope that I am wrong, because there needs to be more safe places for the talent to work and actually get paid for their work. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 20th, 2019 08:06 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 90th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: I enjoy old school shit talking but Omega really comes across like a complainer to me; Nothing about him seems cool. Cool doesn't mean the same thing to you and me that it means to the new generation. All the shit that used to get kids pushed into lockers when I was growing up (video games, anime, binge-watching TV shows on a Friday night before binge-watching was a thing) are now cool, and Omega and the AEW guys are into all that shit. This is cool for the YouTube generation. "Ric Flair cool" doesn't exist anymore, and considering how pathetic Ric Flair is now, I can't say that's a bad thing. Omega's trying to get a reaction, but the problem is he's already making exceptions and will wind up crying and apologizing within hours. I give him credit for attempting trash talk in 2019, but in the age of Twitter it never goes well. And the biggest marks are always behind the curtain and genuinely seem confused by it. Let's be honest - Flair really wasn't cool in 1985 either, it just seemed like he was. Walking around looking like a million bucks all while not paying his taxes, cheating on his wife, walking out on his kids - that's the sign of a total piece of shit. But we loved him, so he was the coolest of the cool. Now Kenny Omega says something that he probably believes in his heart, and everybody has a problem with it? When you grow up, is anyone cool? Frank Sinatra and his ilk were pieces of shit. All the '80s rockers seem pretty pathetic in retrospect. And I don't think for one second that Omega believes what he's saying in his heart. If he does, he's deluded. I do think that firing shots at NXT like this is silly. I get it, but it's silly. NXT is pretty much the perfect company. It's just a really tremendous blend of wrestling action, storytelling, and emotion to get you to care about these guys. AEW can probably match the wrestling, but the storytelling and emotion is really lacking so far (although I'll wait until they have weekly TV to judge them). Everyone says it's impossible to get the fans in 2019 to care about anyone like they did in the '70s, but NXT has done it. That's going to be a huge hurdle for AEW, and taking shots at guys the smart fans love like Gargano and Ciampa isn't going to help. Vince counter-programming with NXT instead of anything WWE was brilliant fucking strategy to prevent this type of rhetoric and make AEW look bad for trying it. Omega could shit on Reigns and Kingston all day long and no one would bat an eye, but the Internet doesn't like him talking shit about their indy heroes who happen to be under a WWE contract. It's the smartest thing Vince has done since 2001. Now, he needs to have the self-control to stay far away from NXT and not change a thing, but I have my doubts he can do that. Doing nothing is Vince's key to victory here. Don't give AEW the ammunition to pivot and say, "Well the NXT stars really are great but Vince ruined the booking so watch us instead." Last edited on Fri Sep 20th, 2019 08:08 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 24th, 2019 02:37 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 91st Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: Pwinsider.com SECOND AEW SERIES UNDER DISCUSSION AT WARNERMEDIA by <A HREF="mailto:MikeJohnsonPWInsider@gmail.com" TARGET="_blank">Mike JohnsonA> @ 6:46 PM on 9/23/2019 A second All Elite Wrestling series is under discussion at WarnerMedia, <A HREF="https://www.thewrap.com/aew-companion-studio-series-all-elite-wrestling-dynamite-br-live-tnt/" TARGET="_blank">according to TheWrap.com.A> The series could be a studio show, according to their report. Brett Weitz, the general manager of TNT, TBS and truTV, commented, “We are talking about it. I don’t know if you’ve met Tony Khan, but he’s not short of ideas — or passion. So there is a world where we’re thinking about ‘Where does something like that live?’ Knowing full well that within the WarnerMedia ecosystem we have B/R Live, we’ve got all these different components at our disposal.” AEW's Dynamite debuts on Wednesday 10/2 on TNT. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 24th, 2019 03:59 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 92nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: Booker T discussed Kenny Omega's shot at WWE NXT on his ESPN 97.5 radio show in Houston, TX yesterday, noting that Omega could have been in character and you have to ask when you should and shouldn't be in character. He questioned that when you are in character, "when shouldn't you be in character?" and asked whether you should be in character when you are talking to the media. Booker said that the job is to get people talking, as Booker did awhile back when he said he wished he could catch Corey Graves in a Starbucks, noting he didn't really mean that, but was in character, and got websites and fans talking. Booker said Omega didn't really disrespect anyone and when Omega sees those talents down the line, he's just going to say he was working. He said, "When you a rock star, you gotta talk like that." He said you have to talk things up and make them bigger than they actually are. Booker said he wouldn't have been offended if he was in WWE NXT. He said that it's a war and in war, "sometimes, there's friendly fire and casualties." He said that a shot was fired across the bow and he likes that, because "we" have to fire one back. He noted that means a larger, faster shot could be fired back with a "bigger boom." ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 24th, 2019 10:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 93rd Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: As I type, there are 3,433 tickets on StubHub for the Washington DC TV debut with a get in price of $6. That's not just one guy putting them up for that price in a desperate attempt to get rid of them. There are lots at and near that price. That is a lot of tickets considering the capacity of the venue and the expected crowd. For contrast, I attended Raiders-Vikings at US Bank Stadium this past Sunday and sold a pair of spare tickets on StubHub. With the same amount of time before that game as we are from AEW in DC, there were fewer Vikes tickets on sale via StubHub in a 66,500 capacity stadium than there are for a wrestling arena that's probably scaled in the 13,000 to 15,000 range. For the Philadelphia taping, there are 2,378 tickets available with a get in price of $6, again there are lots in and around that price point. The Boston card has 1,151 available, but the get in price there is $44. The Pittsburgh taping has 975 tickets available with a $28 get in price. It's Peterson Events Center which is Pitt's basketball arena on campus. The capacity for hoops is 12,000 or so. With seat kills, it's probably closer to 8,000. Charleston, WV has 841 tickets with a $34 get in. Charlotte, at the old arena that JCP used to run and where Flair beat Vader at Starrcade, there are 646 tickets with a $43 get in price. The Baltimore card has 1,188 on sale with a $40 get in at the same arena the WWE uses. Nashville has 489 with a $30 get in at Municipal Auditorium where 30 years ago Flair beat Steamboat and then got piledriven by Funk. They're going back to Chicago at the usual arena, but with a quicker turnaround; 1,195 tickets available with a $25 get in. That's all that's on the slate so far. For that last batch of cards, I have no idea about capacities, set ups, and the number of tickets sold via the non third party market so far. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 24th, 2019 11:13 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 94th Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: For what it is worth, a lot of those early Nitros from the last few months of 1995 and farther into 1996 than you'd imagine had trouble drawing. More than one Nitro in that timeframe would do such things as not opening the upper deck, putting all the fans on the side shot by the hard camera while keeping seats empty on the side not shot by the camera, and putting the ring not at center ice/midcourt but rather at a blue line/free throw line to in effect use less of the arena. Raw used those tricks too. If AEW has some falling off in crowds once the StubHub speculators go away, it's not the seed of doom being planted. Hopefully the people in the promotion and the fans caught up in the wave won't take it too badly to heart if a lot of seats go empty this fall despite being sold and the promotion has to scale back buildings the next time through certain markets. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 25th, 2019 04:54 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 95th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW’s TV show will be rated TV-14, which isn’t a big surprise. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 25th, 2019 06:08 am PM Quote Reply 96th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW’s TV show will be rated TV-14, which isn’t a big surprise. Thank God. But does anyone know if TNT still has a strict standards and practices like they did in the 1990's though? If so, that can be a problem. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 25th, 2019 02:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 97th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW’s TV show will be rated TV-14, which isn’t a big surprise. Thank God. But does anyone know if TNT still has a strict standards and practices like they did in the 1990's though? If so, that can be a problem. I'm sure they do, and I'm sure in some ways it's much stricter in this PC age. As far as the hardcore matches, they need to limit these to PPV anyway, and only do a couple a year. I know they have a few guys like Jimmy Havoc who are known for this shit, but I don't need to see thumbtacks and all the garbage wrestling every week. It's already a bit of overkill with AEW and they haven't even started yet. I do hope they can use a bit more adult language and "adult situations" though. Even this should be kept in check to big angles and not over-used. Just keep it more realistic to sound the way real humans actually talk (as opposed to WWE where no one sounds human), but they don't need to rely on profanity. That's often a crutch in place of good storytelling, and AEW desperately needs to prove that they can tell stories and get characters not in The Elite over. Last edited on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 02:48 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 25th, 2019 04:13 pm PM Quote Reply 98th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Unlike movies, ratings are set by the shows themselves, not judged on their content by an outside body. You can say you are TV-14 just as a marketing gimmick without having to set your content to the upper bounds of what is acceptable in TV-14. I think it basically allows them to say that AEW isn't wrestling for kids. Hopefully standards and practices ban that Japanese weirdo with the baby oil, though. There's no need for that. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 25th, 2019 07:23 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 99th Post glc Joined: Sat Mar 5th, 2011 Location: Posts: 119 Status: Offline Mana: A quick scan of the online TV listing I use shows quite a few replays, including on sister networks... ![]() 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Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 25th, 2019 07:33 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 100th Post glc Joined: Sat Mar 5th, 2011 Location: Posts: 119 Status: Offline Mana: Well, the screenshot didn't work. Sorry. TNT - Wed 10/2 - 8pm Wed 10/2 - 10pm Sat 10/5 - 10am (interesting) Sat 10/5 - 10:30pm Tue 10/8 - 1am TBS - Mon 10/7 - 12:30am TruTV - Wed 10/2 - 7pm (assuming this is the Countdown preview) Sun 10/6 - 12:30am Sun 10/6 - 12noon Tue 10/8 - 10pm Last edited on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 07:35 pm by glc |
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Post by Kriss on Dec 10, 2022 13:51:52 GMT
Posted: Wed Sep 25th, 2019 08:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 101st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: FYI that Smackdown is also about to get replayed on FS2 and several other FOX outlets several times each week, including on Tuesday nights (where Smackdown currently is). I'm not sure how important replays are in the age of DVRs, but there will be many opportunities to watch these shows now. Last edited on Wed Sep 25th, 2019 08:02 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 25th, 2019 08:01 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 102nd Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: All Elite Wrestling Dynamite's debut episode will air on ITV 4 in Great Britain on Sunday 10/6 at 8:20 with a shorter highlights episode airing on Monday 10/7 at 11:45 PM. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 25th, 2019 08:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 103rd Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: FYI that Smackdown is also about to get replayed on FS2 and several other FOX outlets several times each week, including on Tuesday nights (where Smackdown currently is). I'm not sure how important replays are in the age of DVRs, but there will be many opportunities to watch these shows now. I just figured out the other day if I link my NBC app to my cable provider my son can watch Raw Tuesday in complete form. That’s probably old news but I’m not very tech savvy. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Oct 1st, 2019 04:23 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 104th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Huge news for Canada as AEW is about to announce that they will air live on TSN every week. Obviously this is a very big clearance for them. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Oct 1st, 2019 04:34 am PM Quote Reply 105th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Nice Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Oct 2nd, 2019 03:22 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 106th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Confirmed as Jericho’s partners tomorrow night against Omega and the Young Bucks are LAX. This was announced on the preview show on TNT tonight. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Oct 2nd, 2019 10:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 107th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Last night's AEW Dynamite preview show on TNT drew 631,000 viewers, which is a damn strong number for just a preview with video packages. You'd think the actual show tonight could approach 2 million. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Oct 2nd, 2019 11:09 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 108th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW now has clearance in the UK as well, per Tony Khan's tweet today: As I’d promised last week, we’ve been working with our friends at <A HREF="https://twitter.com/ITV" TARGET="_blank">@itva> on scheduling to get free same day access to our weekly episodes of AEW Dynamite for our amazing UK fans via ITV Hub and a sooner free to air replay on ITV4. Thank you for your patience, here’s the great news ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 3rd, 2019 01:37 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 109th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Well here we go guys. 23 minutes to go. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 3rd, 2019 02:08 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 110th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I don't know, but hearing J.R. and Tony's voices again makes me feel excited again. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 3rd, 2019 03:05 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 111th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Meltzer reporting that the L.A. Times story on AEW today was the most viewed article on their website by far, beating even all the Trump stories as well as every other hard news and entertainment article. The Times was shocked. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 4th, 2019 09:55 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 112th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Chris Jericho was at the Rangers-Jets game last night and was wearing the AEW belt. When they showed him on the screen he got a nice pop...and was identified as “WWE Superstar”. Some things never change. It’s the ‘90s all over again. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Oct 7th, 2019 07:57 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 113th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: AEW tickets for Philly next week are on Groupon right now for $11 each. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Oct 9th, 2019 10:28 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 114th Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: Here is the AEW StubHub report. This doesn't count what is still at box offices for general sale or what's on other third party, fan to fan ticket sites. There only 230 tickets on sale at the moment for Boston tonight with a $27 get in price. On the other hand, Philadelphia has 1,818 tickets on sale for the basketball arena at Temple, with a set up probably in the 7,000 to 7,500 range and a get in price of $6. Pittsburgh on 10/23/19 has 879 tickets left with an $18 get in price. This arena holds 12,000 for Pitt basketball and is on campus. I'd venture after seat kills it will be more like 9,000. On 10/30/19 Charleston Civic Center Coliseum. This West Virginia venue was used by Georgia, JCP, WCW, and the WWF. It has 806 tickets on sale with a $26 get in. On 11/6/19 it's the old Charlotte Coliseum that later had many names and is now Bojangles Coliseum for a regional fast food chain. This is the historic venue JCP used and where Flair beat Vader at Starrcade as opposed to the massive building that opened in 1988, held 24,000, and had an insanely bad interior design that led to it being unsuitable for NBA games and then demolished after maybe 25 years. This place holds maybe 11,000 and will probably be set up for 8,000 to 8,500. There are 599 tickets on sale with a $43 get in price. Baltimore has 1,109 on sale for the Full Gear PPV on 11/9/19 with presumably the full 11,000 or so set up and a $37 get in price. Nashville has 647 on sale with a $30 get in price on 11/13/19. This is at Municipal Auditorium where Flair beat Steamboat and got jumped by Funk and where Harley Race took the table bump for Hogan on SNME. Concerts in the round with seating at the venue have a capacity of around 9,400. I don't know how many seat kills there will be. On 11/20/19 in Indianapolis there are 752 tickets with a $26 get in price. This is at the State Fairgrounds Coliseum. There are 6,800 seats for hockey. I'd bet that once you deduct seat kills and add back floor seating the capacity would be in the 5,500 range. Sears Centre Arena in suburban and almost exurban Chicago where All In and All Out were held has 1,085 tickets on sale with a $21 get in price for 11/27/19. All In drew 11,263 with All Out getting a rounded off 10,500. I assume the set up will be the same. This will be an interesting attendance mark to watch. The two big events had lots of internet fly in fans. Even with the start to the long holiday weekend on Thanksgiving eve, this card will presumably rely more on locals. 12/4/19 is in Champaign, IL at State Farm Center which is the corporate name for what was once called Assembly Hall. This is the basketball arena at the University of Illinois. There are 61 tickets on sale with a get in price of $52. I don't know the capacity. The arena is shaped like a circle and holds about 16,500 for hoops. It's hard to tell with seat kills due to the shape. This is another interesting attendance measuring stick for AEW because this is its first TV shoot in a non urban market. The entire metro area has about 230,000 residents. I assume students at the University of Illinois and Parkland College, which is a Juco that's residential and similar to a four year school rather than being a commuter school, are not included. If not, add in another 60,000 people. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Oct 9th, 2019 11:44 pm PM Quote Reply 115th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: From Meltz: "There is a chance that a portion of tonight's AEW show will not air on TNT tonight. Today's St. Louis Cardinals vs. Atlanta Braves baseball playoff game starts at 5:02 p.m. Eastern and will air on TBS. There is also a Washington Nationals vs. Los Angeles Dodgers came on TBS scheduled to start at 8:37 p.m. If the Cardinals game goes past 8:37 p.m., unlikely but possible, one of the two games would be put on TNT with the other on TBS until the Cardinals game ends. To offset this, AEW is scheduled to air live on both TNT and Tru TV for the two hours, which, with airing on two stations, would increase the potential audience. If the Cardinals game goes long, there could be a period where TNT goes to baseball, and AEW would only air on Tru TV. But TNT would return to the AEW show from Boston as soon as the first game ends. The complete two hour show will be replayed at 10 p.m. Eastern on TNT." Considering the the first inning of the Cards -Braves game is 40 minutes in and still going as I type this, it's probably a given that part of the TNT broadcast will be interrupted tonight. Cards-Braves ***SPOILER*** Cards up 10-0 bottom of the 1st. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 12:19 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 116th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: AEW DYNAMITE COULD SWITCH STATIONS TONIGHT By Clint Novak on 2019-10-09 17:33:00 506 Sports, a TV Sports website, has tweeted that if the Braves/Cards Game 5 runs late tonight, and it starts at 5 pm, the Dodgers/Nationals Game 5 slated for 8 :30 pm will begin on TNT. That will push AEW to TruTV, where it would air there in full. This could be a major monkey wrench potentially in any Week 2 ratings data, given 3 of the games in the Braves/Cards series have run over 3 hours and 30 minutes. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 12:44 am PM Quote Reply 117th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Déjà vu Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 01:49 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 118th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Déjà vu Of all teams too. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 01:49 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 119th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Déjà vu Of all teams too. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 02:10 am PM Quote Reply 120th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: They've already added Jake Hager (Jack Swagger) to the opening montage. Last edited on Thu Oct 10th, 2019 02:11 am by Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 04:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 121st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: Director Kevin Smith revealed he and long-time cohort Jay Mewes were supposed to appear on the debut of Friday Night Smackdown but were disinvited after appearing on the debut episode of AEW Dynamite. Smith noted he was invited to Dynamite by AEW Champion Chris Jericho, who will be one of the top villains in the forthcoming Jay & Silent Bob Reboot: “The first casualty of the Wrestling War was Jay and Silent Bob.” - @aewrestling Champion Chris Jericho. Watch me and my #JayAndSilentBobReboot co-star talk about what happened after @jaymewes and I appeared on the debut ep of @aewontnt! <A HREF="https://t.co/h0rI0Q9WJ7" TARGET="_blank">https://t.co/h0rI0Q9WJ7A> — KevinSmith (@thatkevinsmith) October 10, 2019 ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 09:51 pm PM Quote Reply 122nd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Interesting stuff: Conrad Thompson, via his company Toot Toot LLC, is now the owner of the Four Horsemen trademark for - Entertainment services, namely, wrestling exhibits and performances by a professional wrestler and entertainer. Conrad Thompson isn't actually employed by AEW, but I think the fact that the Horsemen trademark is owned by someone decidedly aligned with the company is quite interesting. Especially with Tully and Arn on the company payroll. Will we see another Four Horsemen revival in AEW at some stage? Would anyone in 2019 even want to? Last edited on Thu Oct 10th, 2019 09:56 pm by Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 10:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 123rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: So I never noticed this before I heard this last week on Jim Cornette's podcast. Jim and his co-host Brian Last were reviewing the first AEW show and they goofed on the fact that Nick Jackson of The Young Bucks is going bald. As I said, I never noticed him balding before, but OMG, when watching the show last night that is all I could focus on. He looks like one of the Elves from The Lord Of The Rings. Freaking Cornette has ruined The Young Bucks for me lol. I will now focus on Nick's hairline. He should wear a headband like his brother Matt does. It would help his look tremendously. Unfortunately I do not think he has the type of body frame that would make a shaved head look good. I don't know what he will do in a couple more years. Maybe if he gets jacked on roids and tanned up he could rock the shaved head respectably. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 10:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 124th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Interesting stuff: Conrad Thompson, via his company Toot Toot LLC, is now the owner of the Four Horsemen trademark for - Entertainment services, namely, wrestling exhibits and performances by a professional wrestler and entertainer. Conrad Thompson isn't actually employed by AEW, but I think the fact that the Horsemen trademark is owned by someone decidedly aligned with the company is quite interesting. Especially with Tully and Arn on the company payroll. Will we see another Four Horsemen revival in AEW at some stage? Would anyone in 2019 even want to? You need Flair obviously, which is possible given his lawsuit against WWE and his general ungratefulness and willingness to do anything for a buck. But what the fuck would you possibly do with a Four Horsemen of Flair, Arn, and Tully in 2019? Even if you try to give some young guys the rub with the name, I just don't see the value. I think AEW is going to be just fine with the Inner Circle. If I was Conrad, I'd just design a bunch of shirts for ProWrestlingTees.com and profit off the name that way. People would buy them. Last edited on Thu Oct 10th, 2019 10:14 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 10:26 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 125th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Interesting stuff: Conrad Thompson, via his company Toot Toot LLC, is now the owner of the Four Horsemen trademark for - Entertainment services, namely, wrestling exhibits and performances by a professional wrestler and entertainer. Conrad Thompson isn't actually employed by AEW, but I think the fact that the Horsemen trademark is owned by someone decidedly aligned with the company is quite interesting. Especially with Tully and Arn on the company payroll. Will we see another Four Horsemen revival in AEW at some stage? Would anyone in 2019 even want to? You need Flair obviously, which is possible given his lawsuit against WWE and his general ungratefulness and willingness to do anything for a buck. But what the fuck would you possibly do with a Four Horsemen of Flair, Arn, and Tully in 2019? Even if you try to give some young guys the rub with the name, I just don't see the value. I think AEW is going to be just fine with the Inner Circle. If I was Conrad, I'd just design a bunch of shirts for ProWrestlingTees.com and profit off the name that way. People would buy them. Conrad did it for Flair. Now if WWE uses the name they need to pay him. Maybe he will try to trademark WOOOOOOOO next. And is Arn actually employed by them? I don't know if he's a backstage hand or not, but it appears that Tully is since he traveled to Boston last night. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 11:05 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 126th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Interesting stuff: Conrad Thompson, via his company Toot Toot LLC, is now the owner of the Four Horsemen trademark for - Entertainment services, namely, wrestling exhibits and performances by a professional wrestler and entertainer. Conrad Thompson isn't actually employed by AEW, but I think the fact that the Horsemen trademark is owned by someone decidedly aligned with the company is quite interesting. Especially with Tully and Arn on the company payroll. Will we see another Four Horsemen revival in AEW at some stage? Would anyone in 2019 even want to? You need Flair obviously, which is possible given his lawsuit against WWE and his general ungratefulness and willingness to do anything for a buck. But what the fuck would you possibly do with a Four Horsemen of Flair, Arn, and Tully in 2019? Even if you try to give some young guys the rub with the name, I just don't see the value. I think AEW is going to be just fine with the Inner Circle. If I was Conrad, I'd just design a bunch of shirts for ProWrestlingTees.com and profit off the name that way. People would buy them. Conrad did it for Flair. Now if WWE uses the name they need to pay him. Maybe he will try to trademark WOOOOOOOO next. And is Arn actually employed by them? I don't know if he's a backstage hand or not, but it appears that Tully is since he traveled to Boston last night. Yes Arn officially works for AEW now. I am surprised that WWE didn't have that trademark locked up already. Did they have it previously and lapsed on it when it came time to re-new? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 11th, 2019 01:34 am PM Quote Reply 127th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Interesting stuff: Conrad Thompson, via his company Toot Toot LLC, is now the owner of the Four Horsemen trademark for - Entertainment services, namely, wrestling exhibits and performances by a professional wrestler and entertainer. Conrad Thompson isn't actually employed by AEW, but I think the fact that the Horsemen trademark is owned by someone decidedly aligned with the company is quite interesting. Especially with Tully and Arn on the company payroll. Will we see another Four Horsemen revival in AEW at some stage? Would anyone in 2019 even want to? You need Flair obviously, which is possible given his lawsuit against WWE and his general ungratefulness and willingness to do anything for a buck. But what the fuck would you possibly do with a Four Horsemen of Flair, Arn, and Tully in 2019? Even if you try to give some young guys the rub with the name, I just don't see the value. I think AEW is going to be just fine with the Inner Circle. If I was Conrad, I'd just design a bunch of shirts for ProWrestlingTees.com and profit off the name that way. People would buy them. Conrad did it for Flair. Now if WWE uses the name they need to pay him. Maybe he will try to trademark WOOOOOOOO next. And is Arn actually employed by them? I don't know if he's a backstage hand or not, but it appears that Tully is since he traveled to Boston last night. Yes Arn officially works for AEW now. I am surprised that WWE didn't have that trademark locked up already. Did they have it previously and lapsed on it when it came time to re-new? I would guess yes since they marketed the Ric Flair and The Four Horseman DVD in 2007. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Oct 12th, 2019 01:47 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 128th Post DJP Joined: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 Location: Posts: 1100 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Interesting stuff: Conrad Thompson, via his company Toot Toot LLC, is now the owner of the Four Horsemen trademark for - Entertainment services, namely, wrestling exhibits and performances by a professional wrestler and entertainer. Conrad Thompson isn't actually employed by AEW, but I think the fact that the Horsemen trademark is owned by someone decidedly aligned with the company is quite interesting. Especially with Tully and Arn on the company payroll. Will we see another Four Horsemen revival in AEW at some stage? Would anyone in 2019 even want to? You need Flair obviously, which is possible given his lawsuit against WWE and his general ungratefulness and willingness to do anything for a buck. But what the fuck would you possibly do with a Four Horsemen of Flair, Arn, and Tully in 2019? Even if you try to give some young guys the rub with the name, I just don't see the value. I think AEW is going to be just fine with the Inner Circle. If I was Conrad, I'd just design a bunch of shirts for ProWrestlingTees.com and profit off the name that way. People would buy them. Conrad did it for Flair. Now if WWE uses the name they need to pay him. Maybe he will try to trademark WOOOOOOOO next. And is Arn actually employed by them? I don't know if he's a backstage hand or not, but it appears that Tully is since he traveled to Boston last night. Flair via his LLC applied for the Wooo trademark in May of this year. It's still in process and has yet to be registered. Conrad's entity applied in March. It also has yet to be registered. Last edited on Sat Oct 12th, 2019 01:58 am by DJP ____________________ I live alone. I train alone. I'll win the title alone. -Clubber Lang Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Oct 12th, 2019 07:16 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 129th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW has come to terms with Taz to be a commentator on at least one edition of AEW Dark when they are in Philly this week. They’ve promised he will also make an in-ring appearance, although its unclear if that will happen on Wednesday live or on Dark. Taz appeared to be upset on Twitter that he wasn’t invited to the Smackdown premiere on FOX and now this. Last edited on Sat Oct 12th, 2019 07:19 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Oct 12th, 2019 08:38 pm PM Quote Reply 130th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I listened to the first couple of Arn Anderson podcasts with Conrad this week. I was very pleasantly surprised. I have only ever heard Arn kayfabe, long after everyone else was happy to talk about the inner workings of the business. He's completely candid on this show, and his serious manner seems to have rubbed off on Conrad, and there's none of the goofy bullshit that I hated about the Bruce Prichard show. I was disappointed that Conrad didn't bring up the toupee incident, though. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Oct 12th, 2019 09:11 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 131st Post DJP Joined: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 Location: Posts: 1100 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I listened to the first couple of Arn Anderson podcasts with Conrad this week. I was very pleasantly surprised. I have only ever heard Arn kayfabe, long after everyone else was happy to talk about the inner workings of the business. He's completely candid on this show, and his serious manner seems to have rubbed off on Conrad, and there's none of the goofy bullshit that I hated about the Bruce Prichard show. I was disappointed that Conrad didn't bring up the toupee incident, though. The latest episode covering the "My Spot" promo and Arn's retirement may be the best and most insightful story of anything I've ever heard.. From the physical pain he endured and him seriously contemplating taking his own life to the pain and embarrassment he felt emotionally when the NWO did their parody mocking his speech and making him look like nothing but a drunk in front of his wife and kids. Very powerful stuff. ____________________ I live alone. I train alone. I'll win the title alone. -Clubber Lang Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Oct 12th, 2019 11:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 132nd Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: Cody announced this afternoon that former ECW World Champion Taz will appear as a guest broadcaster on this Wednesday's AEW Dynamite TV taping, which will emanate from Philadelphia, a city he has a LOT of history. Taz will take part in calling bouts that will air on the 10/22 AEW Dark episode: ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 06:07 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 133rd Post Matt Farmer Joined: Fri Jun 3rd, 2011 Location: Seattle, Washington USA Posts: 744 Status: Offline Mana: One of the gimmicks a few I know have worked in the last few years. Is for people to trademark things they think WWE would want to use sometime in the future. When the time comes, they sell the rights of it to WWE for a good chunk of change. A friend did this recently and got a nice 5 figure payday from it. ____________________ to email me: inferno4l@hotmail.com Follow on Twitter: @mattfarmer93 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 03:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 134th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/359.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu359')">Matt Farmera> wrote: One of the gimmicks a few I know have worked in the last few years. Is for people to trademark things they think WWE would want to use sometime in the future. When the time comes, they sell the rights of it to WWE for a good chunk of change. A friend did this recently and got a nice 5 figure payday from it. I had friends who used to do this with registering domain names in the early 2000s. For the most part they wound up losing money. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 06:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 135th Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: All Elite Wrestling announced this afternoon that The Rock N' Roll Express, Ricky Morton and Robert Gibson, will appear on this Wednesday's edition of Dynamite. The WWE Hall of Famers will present the AEW Tag Team Championship belts to the winners of the tournament final, which will feature The Lucha Brothers vs. SCU. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 06:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 136th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: All Elite Wrestling announced this afternoon that The Rock N' Roll Express, Ricky Morton and Robert Gibson, will appear on this Wednesday's edition of Dynamite. The WWE Hall of Famers will present the AEW Tag Team Championship belts to the winners of the tournament final, which will feature The Lucha Brothers vs. SCU. Aren't they the NWA Tag champs again? Heel turn leading to a title vs. title match at the NWA PPV! ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 07:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 137th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: I thought lattimer and the guy with the ultimate warrior boot fringe were the champs? ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 07:22 pm PM Quote Reply 138th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: I thought lattimer and the guy with the ultimate warrior boot fringe were the champs? Spoiler alert! ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 07:33 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 139th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: It is??? I saw them with the belts on POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 09:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 140th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: I guess it will air in the future so sorry for the spoiler, but it was all over the websites when it was taped. Since they only have like 25 people there anyway, they should make them sign NDAs. Last edited on Thu Oct 24th, 2019 09:15 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 09:15 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 141st Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I guess it will air in the future so sorry for the spoiler, but it was all over the websites when it was taped. By the time it airs, they'll be collecting Social Security. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 09:16 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 142nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I guess it will air in the future so sorry for the spoiler, but it was all over the websites when it was taped. By the time it airs, they'll be collecting Social Security. The R'n'R Express or viewers of the show? ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 09:37 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 143rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Dynamite had its first production fuck-up last night as the show did not end as planned. After the time limit draw between PAC and Moxley, Omega was supposed to hit the ring and the show would fade to black during a brawl. Omega missed a cue or was sent late, and the show obviously just ended with everyone standing around. They've been really, really good the first few weeks at not making mistakes like this, which hampers other companies all the time when they try to go live. Tony Khan has been personally handling many of the time cues and has gotten rave reviews. In other news, Dippin Dots tweeted a shout out to AEW after that awesome segment involving Jericho last night, and promised to make a "Rocky Rhodes" flavor. Cody responded in thanks. Last edited on Thu Oct 24th, 2019 09:44 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 10:11 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 144th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I guess it will air in the future so sorry for the spoiler, but it was all over the websites when it was taped. Since they only have like 25 people there anyway, they should make them sign NDAs. God dammit Rossi. Not everyone here reads the websites for “insider” information. It ruins the viewing experience. And btw, that studio seats 253 people. Those are shoot numbers Rossi. SHOOT NUMBERS. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 10:14 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 145th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I guess it will air in the future so sorry for the spoiler, but it was all over the websites when it was taped. Since they only have like 25 people there anyway, they should make them sign NDAs. God dammit Rossi. Not everyone here reads the websites for “insider” information. It ruins the viewing experience. And btw, that studio seats 253 people. Those are shoot numbers Rossi. SHOOT NUMBERS. Its great having you back! ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 10:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 146th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I guess it will air in the future so sorry for the spoiler, but it was all over the websites when it was taped. Since they only have like 25 people there anyway, they should make them sign NDAs. God dammit Rossi. Not everyone here reads the websites for “insider” information. It ruins the viewing experience. And btw, that studio seats 253 people. Those are shoot numbers Rossi. SHOOT NUMBERS. Old school fans shouldn't be reading AEW threads. Now you've caught the flippity-floppety disease and you got what you deserved. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 24th, 2019 10:21 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 147th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I guess it will air in the future so sorry for the spoiler, but it was all over the websites when it was taped. Since they only have like 25 people there anyway, they should make them sign NDAs. God dammit Rossi. Not everyone here reads the websites for “insider” information. It ruins the viewing experience. And btw, that studio seats 253 people. Those are shoot numbers Rossi. SHOOT NUMBERS. Old school fans shouldn't be reading AEW threads. Now you've caught the flippity-floppety disease and you got what you deserved. I am not an “old school fan”. I am a fan of wrestling. Or the “business” as you call it. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 25th, 2019 12:37 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 148th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I guess it will air in the future so sorry for the spoiler, but it was all over the websites when it was taped. Since they only have like 25 people there anyway, they should make them sign NDAs. God dammit Rossi. Not everyone here reads the websites for “insider” information. It ruins the viewing experience. And btw, that studio seats 253 people. Those are shoot numbers Rossi. SHOOT NUMBERS. Old school fans shouldn't be reading AEW threads. Now you've caught the flippity-floppety disease and you got what you deserved. This week was extremely flippy floppy. Hated that first match. I like those two Lucha guys, they seem like badass Lucha killers but that match was flippy as all get out. Too much. Really other than the brawl with Cody and friends vs. Jerichos group, the show was fairly meh to me. They NEED interviews,to build some story. Desperately Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 25th, 2019 01:47 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 149th Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: I gave AEW four weeks as a lapsed fan... They drew me in the first week. They've lost me piece by piece the last three weeks. I'm near being a lapsed fan once again. ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 25th, 2019 02:41 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 150th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: I gave AEW four weeks as a lapsed fan... They drew me in the first week. They've lost me piece by piece the last three weeks. I'm near being a lapsed fan once again. I’m a lapsed fan too. I’ll keep watching for a while at least. I enjoy 50% of the AEW show so far and that’s 49.997% more than anything from Raw or Smackdown. The focus on the matches is nice. Never been a fan of 15 minute talking segments or silly attitude era type stuff. I’d love to see some more hard hitting wrestling. The flippy floppy shit is really impressive to see live but it looks so over the top phony on tv. I’m just looking for something that makes me proud to be a wrestling fan because the older I get, the more wrestling comes off as stupid and hokey to me. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 25th, 2019 04:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 151st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Chris Jericho has applied for "Painmaker" and "The Inner Circle" trademarks. Note that these were not AEW filings, so Jericho will own them and be able to use them anywhere. He was using the "Painmaker" name in NJPW in his feud with Okada so that one pre-dates AEW. Last edited on Fri Oct 25th, 2019 04:25 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 25th, 2019 04:29 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 152nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: ESPN MMA reporter Marc Raimondi tweeted that Jake Hager will be accompanied to the cage by Inner Circle stablemates Sammy Guevara, Ortiz, and Santana tonight when he fights Anthony Garrett in the opening match of Bellator 231. I hope there's a run in. Hager skipped Dynamite this week as he was in fight camp. The main event will be washed up UFC fighters Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson. Last edited on Fri Oct 25th, 2019 04:32 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 25th, 2019 05:13 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 153rd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: ESPN MMA reporter Marc Raimondi tweeted that Jake Hager will be accompanied to the cage by Inner Circle stablemates Sammy Guevara, Ortiz, and Santana tonight when he fights Anthony Garrett in the opening match of Bellator 231. I hope there's a run in. Hager skipped Dynamite this week as he was in fight camp. The main event will be washed up UFC fighters Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson. I understand Bellator isn't UFC, so the people watching it may possibly be wrestling fans. But I can totally see the people at Mohegan Sun saying "who the fook are those guys?" ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 25th, 2019 05:29 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 154th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: ESPN MMA reporter Marc Raimondi tweeted that Jake Hager will be accompanied to the cage by Inner Circle stablemates Sammy Guevara, Ortiz, and Santana tonight when he fights Anthony Garrett in the opening match of Bellator 231. I hope there's a run in. Hager skipped Dynamite this week as he was in fight camp. The main event will be washed up UFC fighters Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson. I understand Bellator isn't UFC, so the people watching it may possibly be wrestling fans. But I can totally see the people at Mohegan Sun saying "who the fook are those guys?" People say that about all the assholes who come out with the fighters. Some guys have entourages numbering in the millions. The best was when Dan Severn came out with Al Snow and Dennis Carlouzzo wearing the NWA belt on one of the first UFC shows. Last edited on Fri Oct 25th, 2019 05:29 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Oct 26th, 2019 03:19 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 155th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: It’s funny that in AEW they shit on Hager’s old gimmick but in Bellator he comes out to a “We The People” Titantron video. He came out to “Rooster” by Alice in Chains. He’s wearing an Inner Circle shirt and Guevara, Ortiz, and Santana got TV time. Announcer Mike Goldberg also gave Jericho a shout out. Now he just needs to win. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Oct 26th, 2019 03:25 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 156th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Wow, Hager with 2 low blows in the 1st round and Anthony Garrett crumples to the mat in the fetal position and can’t continue. They ruled it unintentional so the fight is a no-contest and not a DQ. AEW should play it up as intentional though and try to salvage something from that debacle. Last edited on Sat Oct 26th, 2019 03:50 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Oct 26th, 2019 03:49 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 157th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Best thing that could have happened to the new member of wrestling's hottest heel faction. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Oct 26th, 2019 03:57 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 158th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Best thing that could have happened to the new member of wrestling's hottest heel faction. Definitely, hopefully they play it up on next weeks show. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Oct 27th, 2019 02:46 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 159th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW announced that they have signed retired British boxer Anthony Ogogo. Ogogo won a bronze medal in the Olympics and was 11-1 as a pro. Ogogo was a bit of a B-level celebrity in England and appeared on the British versions of Big Brother and Dancing With the Stars. Last edited on Sun Oct 27th, 2019 02:46 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 31st, 2019 03:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 160th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Jon Moxley cut a great intense in-ring promo last night, but they’ve only let him and Jericho do an unscripted in-ring promo so far, and we know they can do it already. If this whole “no writers” thing is going to take off, they really need to let a few of the round guys sink or swim. They’ll never be able to talk unless they try. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 1st, 2019 01:09 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 161st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Jon Moxley cut a great intense in-ring promo last night, but they’ve only let him and Jericho do an unscripted in-ring promo so far, and we know they can do it already. If this whole “no writers” thing is going to take off, they really need to let a few of the round guys sink or swim. They’ll never be able to talk unless they try. I think Cody will be alright, but yes I would really love to see Omega and The Young Bucks really give an intense promo to see where they are at. I was kinda distracted when it happened, but didn't Adam Page have the mic? I have no idea how long it went. Instead of typing it all out again, here is what I posted about the episode over at WC a couple hours ago: I was at my Dad's place when I watched it. He hasn't watched AEW before. He wasn't much interested in it early on, but came and sat down when the women's match started , and absolutely loved the Jericho and Cody segment.I loved the show. Damn Dustin sold that attack well.The tag division is obviously booked by The Young Bucks and I agree with others that they have to start mixing up different styles. Every tag match is GO GO GO. People are going to start becoming less interested in that type of tag match every time I think. I rarely remember anything about spot fest matches, they are all a blur to me.The Lucha Brothers though, MAN they are something special.And, the directors of the AEW show are slick...did anybody notice the three little boys (and a little girl who was hugging her Mother most of the show)front row, center of the hard camera?I have a feeling it wasn't a coincidence and was carefully planned to have them in view. It gives the illusion that there are other people besides awkward, nerdy, smart mark, twenty-something males that go to AEW cards.Well done. AEW and NWA have made me again, loyally watch wrestling each week on TV. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 1st, 2019 02:07 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 162nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Adam Page basically said one line about how he was going to do “some cowboy shit” at the PPV. It was a line that got a nice pop, but it wasn’t a full promo. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 1st, 2019 02:29 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 163rd Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: I have come to the conclusion that I mostly dislike the tag tournament in AEW and a lot of their tag teams. ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 1st, 2019 06:09 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 164th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: The numbers are in for the fifth night of the Wednesday Night Wars and AEW has extended their streak to 5-0. But that is probably the only good news as both shows once again saw major slippage in their audience. AEW Dynamite on TNT did 759,000 overnight viewers, down from the 963,000 that they did last week. They were down 21% from last week and down 46% since week one. NXT on USA was down as well as they dropped to a series low 580,000 overnight viewers, down from last week's 698,000 viewers. They were down 17% from last week and down 51% since week one, which was unopposed. Yes they went up against Game 7 of the World Series but still, it's concening. As I said last week, we still have not found the bottom yet for the Wednesday night audience Date NXT Audience NXT People 18-49 Rating AEW AEW People 18-49 Rating 9/18/18 1,179,000 0.43 N/A N/A 9/25/19 1,006,000 0.32 N/A N/A 10/2/19 891,000 0.32 1,409,000 0.68 10/9/19* 790,000 0.22 1,140,000 0.46 10/16/19 712,000 0.20 1,014,000 0.44 10/23/19 698,000 0.21 963,000 0.45 10/30/19 580,000 0.18 759,000 0.33 *Note: On 10/9/19 AEW did 1,018,000 viewers on TNT and 122,000 on TruTV due to being simulcast because of the MLB playoffs. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Nov 3rd, 2019 05:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 165th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I heard Cornette say on his podcast that Meltzer compared Marco Stunt to Little Bruiser. lol Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 7th, 2019 10:53 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 166th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Oh my God, I'm starting to lose a lot of respect for Meltzer and Alvarez over this AEW love fest. I am listening the WOR right now and they are talking about last night's show and could they not find ANYTHING good to say about NXT. Everything is glowing about AEW, even the shit women's matches they have, but it is nothing but criticism for NXT. It's getting worse with Dave. I guess he is "All In" on his bias with AEW and doesn't even care anymore whether people hear it or not. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 7th, 2019 10:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 167th Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: NXT Wimmens > AEW Wimmens ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 7th, 2019 11:05 pm PM Quote Reply 168th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Jericho and Cody promos > Everthing in NXT Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 12:08 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 169th Post Portalesman HALL OF FAMER Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 7872 Status: Offline Mana: Is there a slave gimmick with slave chains in AEW or NXT? ____________________ www.wrestlingfanssuck.comSixk of Portalsman and he is a total fucking loser and mark for himself. A bore. Dude has never been laid in his life. Total piece of garbage and a reason I have left wrestling forums. drdelaware Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 12:33 am PM Quote Reply 170th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Wednesday Night War Week 5: AEW - 822,000 viewers, up 70,000 from last week NXT - 813,000 viewers, up 260,000 from last week No World Series competition and a weak season of Survivor on CBS really helped the ratings last night. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 01:53 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 171st Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/13.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu13')">Portalesmana> wrote: Is there a slave gimmick with slave chains in AEW or NXT? In AEW, Chris Jericho has made Jack Swagger his slave. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 01:53 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 172nd Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/13.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu13')">Portalesmana> wrote: Is there a slave gimmick with slave chains in AEW or NXT? In NXT they are all slaves to Vince. Last edited on Fri Nov 8th, 2019 01:54 am by Principal_Raditch Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 01:54 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 173rd Post EVAD Joined: Tue Apr 14th, 2015 Location: Posts: 84 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/13.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu13')">Portalesmana> wrote: Is there a slave gimmick with slave chains in AEW or NXT? I think there is a darkie bob chain slave deal on AEW or NXT? Last edited on Fri Nov 8th, 2019 01:55 am by EVAD Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 01:58 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 174th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/142.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu142')">brokea> wrote: NXT Wimmens > AEW Wimmens This is clearly true. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 03:06 am PM Quote Reply 175th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/142.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu142')">brokea> wrote: NXT Wimmens > AEW Wimmens This is clearly true. No argument here. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 03:28 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 176th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: I loved the brawl at the end of Dynamite this week involving everyone on the PPV. Everyone is in an inter-connected feud like the old days of the NWA and everything ties together, which is also a great way to have mid-carders and main eventers side-by-side. In WWE, everything exists in a silo and no one ever seems to interact outside of the one feud of the month. There’s also no comparison between crowd reactions. Raw sounds like a funeral compared to Dynamite. Last edited on Fri Nov 8th, 2019 03:29 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 04:52 pm PM Quote Reply 177th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I loved the brawl at the end of Dynamite this week involving everyone on the PPV. Everyone is in an inter-connected feud like the old days of the NWA and everything ties together, which is also a great way to have mid-carders and main eventers side-by-side. In WWE, everything exists in a silo and no one ever seems to interact outside of the one feud of the month. There’s also no comparison between crowd reactions. Raw sounds like a funeral compared to Dynamite. Completely agree. I also like the way that AEW have managed to make the PPV as special as a PPV can be in 2019 (personally I think PPV wrestling's time is coming to an end). We have rarely seen the top guys meet each other in the ring, and then only fleetingly in tag matches. The Inner Circle vignette was brilliant. It was laugh-out-loud funny, but it also fed into the story that Jericho isn't taking this seriously and Cody is. The line about Jericho being, at 48, the youngest ever AEW champion was classic. It's bad form to criticise this or NXT at the moment. Not only are they the best wrestling on TV/interwebs at the moment, but they are both essential viewing. But, this being the interwebs, here are my criticisms of AEW at the moment: I have no problem at all with Riho as the women's champion. She fits right into the mid-set of AEW and most of their fans. I think this is a new evolution of wrestling I Understand why older fans may not like it. I think they are going with the idea that, if the fans know that wrestling is a performance (fake if you want) then they can present a different product. No need for selling or old-school psychology, they are just there to entertain the fans with crazy moves, bizarre comedy, and whatever else they want. If you are complaining that Riho is too small to be believable as champ, this isn't the wrestling show for you. Witness the crowd's reaction to Orange Cassidy's kicks to PAC on Wednesday, they loved it, so it works for a lot of people not named James E. Cornette. Having said that, the women's division is weak. Britt Baker is doctor, a dentist. OK... so what? I'm not getting the Freddie Mercury gimmick. When I first saw Emi Sakura in AEW, I thought she was going to be different people for each show, which would have been cool, but this is just weird, and she struggles to get the fans into her "We Will Rock You" gimmick. But, whatever, it's a lower mid-card title at the moment. I enjoyed the tag team tournament, but the Young Bucks vs LAX seems more important than the tag title match tomorrow night, which isn't how it should be. Private Party, while they can pull off some decent aerial offence, just aren't very good wrestlers yet. They need more training and practice. Hangman Page is boring. I just don't see anything in him. They need to develop his character a lot, because, amongst all the great talent in AEW, his in-ring work doesn't stand out, and he's getting lost in the shuffle. Shawn Spears is a very lucky man. He is bang average, and there's no way that AEW would sign him today. It was a good news story at the time, but the only thing about Tye Dillinger that was over was his "10" gimmick. He peaked during his Royal Rumble debut entrance, but there is nothing once you look past that. But this is all just me just me splitting hairs. AEW is four stars or better every week, and is light years ahead of Raw and Smackdown, a lot due to the fact that the guys are clearly having fun out there. I don't think Seth Rollins has had fun in a wrestling ring for about five years. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 05:04 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 178th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Agree with all of the above except I like Hangman. Jericho vignette was gold and we got a Virgil cameo! The best part were the close-ups of Hager saying nothing (and he never should). This is easily Jericho’s best work since the Shawn Michaels feud many years ago. He did not look great in NJPW but he’s doing much better now. The most important thing is that everyone in AEW is clearly having the time of the lives and no one seems scared. On Raw, everyone is terrified. If you don’t think so, listen to a promo by anyone currently under contract and then listen to a promo when any of the legends come back. The legends just talk. The current WWE guys are scared to death of saying one word wrong. In AEW without scripts to memorize or Vince to chew them out backstage, they’re just hitting it out of the park on every promo. But they still need to give more mic time to much of the roster because the guys killing it on the mic of all the veterans who have been dying for years for a chance to cut unscripted promos. Can the kids do it? Last edited on Fri Nov 8th, 2019 05:07 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 07:47 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 179th Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: AEW is doing a better booking job than the WWE right now and comes off as something fresh and new, with good reason since it has only been on the air for a month or so. The promotion also has the WWF 1998-2000 thing going in which the promotion is so hot and the top guys and angles are so over that it creates a wave that sweeps the entire promotion forward. There was plenty of underneath stuff in the WWF from 1998 to 2000 that today wouldn't stand a chance but back then fans ate up and of which they now have cherished memories, because the Austin/Rock/McMahon show was on fire and it took everything else for the ride. AEW is now in that spot. Everything is over and they're riding the wave. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 08:39 pm PM Quote Reply 180th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: FWIW, despite one having blond hair, the other with dark hair, Orange (Pockets) Cassidy and Niners coach Kyle Shanahan look like twin brothers from different mothers. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 08:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 181st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: I just want to point out that when Cassidy hit his comedy kicks on PAC, PAC just stood there (I’ve never seen anyone in AEW sell them) and then blasted Cassidy with a brutally stiff kick that Cassidy sold like it killed him. Why Cornette would have a problem with shit like this I have no idea other than the fact that he’s an overly serious cunt who forgets that he’s participated in dozens of embarrassing and business-exposing moments over the past few decades that eclipse anything that Cassidy could ever dream of. Last edited on Fri Nov 8th, 2019 08:44 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 08:49 pm PM Quote Reply 182nd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: I thought the Pac-Cassidy spot was great, myself. One of the highlights of the night and the crowd absolutely ate it up! Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 09:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 183rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: I thought the Pac-Cassidy spot was great, myself. One of the highlights of the night and the crowd absolutely ate it up! I loved seeing his head kicked off too, but I ask, where does this whole Orange Cassidy thing go? How many more times can he just do this same deal before the novelty wears off? I never heard of him before he started showing up on the All Elite ppvs and TV. Is this all he has? I have attempted to to watch two of his indie matches on YouTube and once you get past the kick and chop spot he has nothing much going on. He's nothing special in the ring and besides his bread and butter spot he really doesn't show me too much charisma. Now granted I love watching him make a fool of himself and seeing guys like PAC destroy him, but I fear he doesn't have much of a future. And WOW NXT really got a bump this week after the SD angle didn't they? I was even impressed with AEW getting the increase they did after consistently losing viewers each week. I am looking forward to their ppv tomorrow night. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 09:21 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 184th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Cassidy does full matches including insane high spots like this. It has to be sent to be believed. The athletic ability it takes to do the spots he does the way he does them is beyond anything I’ve ever seen. Give it a chance. He’s just being introduced. Last edited on Fri Nov 8th, 2019 09:21 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 09:22 pm PM Quote Reply 185th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: I agree with you on Orange Cassidy. They need to give the character more depth. Maybe a backstory that he's not all there because of a car accident with head trauma, or he's mentally ill? Otherwise, like you said, he has a short shelf life. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 09:30 pm PM Quote Reply 186th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Cassidy does full matches including insane high spots like this. It has to be sent to be believed. The athletic ability it takes to do the spots he does the way he does them is beyond anything I’ve ever seen. Give it a chance. He’s just being introduced. His dive wearing tight jeans with his hands in his pockets is one of the most impressive things I've seen in a wrestling ring since Sensational Sherri Martel perfectly ran the ropes and took Hogan's big boot - while wearing high heels. I can't see how broads even walk around in those things, let alone run the ropes. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 09:36 pm PM Quote Reply 187th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: My AEW criticism of the week would be how come Tully Blanchard and MJF never cut promos? Ridiculous. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 8th, 2019 10:33 pm PM Quote Reply 188th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Cassidy does full matches including insane high spots like this. It has to be sent to be believed. The athletic ability it takes to do the spots he does the way he does them is beyond anything I’ve ever seen. Give it a chance. He’s just being introduced. His dive wearing tight jeans with his hands in his pockets is one of the most impressive things I've seen in a wrestling ring since Sensational Sherri Martel perfectly ran the ropes and took Hogan's big boot - while wearing high heels. I can't see how broads even walk around in those things, let alone run the ropes. If you like the Chikara-style comedy wrestling, there's a very funny match between Orange Cassidy and Jervis Cottonbelly on YouTube. There are strong rumours that Cassidy was Fire Ant in Chikara. If that is true, he's an above average wrestler, which I guess you need to be to do what he does. The Cassidy gimmick is that he's just extremely lazy. They could work an angle where he eventually is forced or given a reason to fight, maybe the Best Friends will really need his help one day. It's a very slow burn, which is fine by me. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 9th, 2019 02:08 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 189th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: Soul train Jones. Living legend. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 9th, 2019 03:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 190th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I just want to point out that when Cassidy hit his comedy kicks on PAC, PAC just stood there (I’ve never seen anyone in AEW sell them) and then blasted Cassidy with a brutally stiff kick that Cassidy sold like it killed him. Why Cornette would have a problem with shit like this I have no idea other than the fact that he’s an overly serious cunt who forgets that he’s participated in dozens of embarrassing and business-exposing moments over the past few decades that eclipse anything that Cassidy could ever dream of. I just want to point out that it’s all fake phony bullshit Rossi. Being legit pissed about what someone else who has previously been involved in fake phony bullshit thinks of current fake phony bullshit is fucking SILLY. And taking fake phony bullshit wrestling characters/personas seriously is even sillier. PAC is a fake phony bullshit character. Orange Cassidy is a fake phony bullshit character. Jim Cornette is a fake phony bullshit character. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 9th, 2019 04:37 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 191st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I just want to point out that when Cassidy hit his comedy kicks on PAC, PAC just stood there (I’ve never seen anyone in AEW sell them) and then blasted Cassidy with a brutally stiff kick that Cassidy sold like it killed him. Why Cornette would have a problem with shit like this I have no idea other than the fact that he’s an overly serious cunt who forgets that he’s participated in dozens of embarrassing and business-exposing moments over the past few decades that eclipse anything that Cassidy could ever dream of. I just want to point out that it’s all fake phony bullshit Rossi. Being legit pissed about what someone else who has previously been involved in fake phony bullshit thinks of current fake phony bullshit is fucking SILLY. And taking fake phony bullshit wrestling characters/personas seriously is even sillier. PAC is a fake phony bullshit character. Orange Cassidy is a fake phony bullshit character. Jim Cornette is a fake phony bullshit character. So you think I’m taking it seriously based on a few message board posts but Cornette isn’t when he dedicates his whole life to this? I don’t fucking care. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Nov 10th, 2019 04:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 192nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Cody with the nasty hardway.. This crowd sucks. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Nov 10th, 2019 06:45 am PM Quote Reply 193rd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: AEW Full Gear PPV SPOILERS via CBS Sports: AEW's return to pay-per-view for Full Gear at Baltimore's State Farm Arena felt, in many ways, like "another AEW effort." That is, until the final two matches of the night brought a unique approach that only AEW can truly deliver with a lack of the restrictions imposed on WWE efforts and the elite level talents on the All Elite Wrestling roster. Cody came up short in a war with AEW champion Chris Jericho, suffering the humiliation of MJF not only throwing in the towel as Jericho locked in the Lion Tamer but also seeing his best friend turn on him with a low blow after the conclusion of the match. In the main event "lights out" match between Kenny Omega and Jon Moxley, seemingly every variety of weapon was brought into play before Moxley finally got the win over Omega in a violent, blood-filled battle to settle their months-old issues. Britt Baker def. Bea Priestly via submission: This was, while still shaky at times, Baker's best showing in AEW in large part due to the efforts of Priestley. Baker went for Lockjaw early but couldn't quite lock it in. Priestly hit some big, flashy spots before Baker was finally able to get Lockjaw clinched for the tap. After the match, Brandi Rhodes and Awesome Kong came out and attacked Priestley. The duo cut off a chunk of Priestley's hair after a brief attack and walked off. Grade: C Santana & Ortiz def. The Young Bucks via pinfall: Chaos reigned from the opening bell with all four men going at it in and out of the ring before settling back into a standard tag match. In an early highlight, Santana and Ortiz locked both Jacksons up in a combination Boston Crab, Gory Special and Camel Clutch. The Bucks spent a lot of the match attacking the non-legal man to keep things flowing in their direction, which eventually backfired when Nick missed a kick and hit the ring post. He would sell the leg injury from kicking the post the rest of the match, including crashing to the canvas while trying to hit the springboard for the Meltzer Driver down the finishing stretch. Santana blew his nose at the Rock 'n' Roll Express, who were seated ringside, calling back to Proud -n- Powerful's power bombing Ricky Morton through the stage on Dynamite. Santana & Ortiz hit the Street Sweeper on Nick to get the victory. A more traditional tag match than some may have expected between the two, but still good, technical action. Following the match, Sammy Guevara came to the ring to celebrate and join in the beatdown on the Jacksons. As they were about to use a sock full of baseballs, The Express ran in to make the save with Morton hitting a Destroyer and a suicide dive. Grade: B Adam "Hangman" Page def. PAC via pinfall: There was some nasty, physical action in this one. Page hit a big suicide dive early on but the tables turned when PAC whipped him in the face using the ring ropes. Page hit a huge moonsault dive to the outside but Page came back with a brainbuster on the chair on the outside. The match became a series of high-impact moves from both men, including a top rope fallaway slam from Page into a reverse German suplex from PAC right into a powerbomb from Page. As Page tried to lock in the Deadeye, PAC countered into the Brutalizer. Page escaped the hold, PAC missed the Black Arrow and Page drilled him with a forearm and clothesline before hitting PAC with Deadeye for the win. Grade: B Shawn Spears def. Joey Janela via pinfall: Janela came out hard, attacking Spears before even removing his jacket. Spears caught Janela as he tried a cross body to the outside, turning it into a powerslam. Spears tied Janela's hair to the corner tag rope, forcing Janela to rip a chunk of hair out to escape after briefly taking a beating. Janela took several big spills in the match, even when getting his offense in which included a flipping senton dive from the top rope. Spears hit the C-4 death valley driver after using an exposed turnbuckle and a spike piledriver with the help of Tully Blanchard to get the victory. A slight step down from the previous two matches, but still quality stuff. Grade: B- AEW Tag Team Championship -- SCU (c) def. Private Party & Lucha Bros. via pinfall to retain the titles: The early part of the match was surprisingly clunky, with spots not quite going off smoothly. Once the action settled down, the action smoothed out into the kind of constant action fans would expect from these six men. That action included the kind of dive-after-dive spot necessary in a match featuring an impressive collection of high fliers. Private Party had a good near fall after Marq Quen hit a 450 splash. Moments after Kazarian kicked out, they hit Isiah Kassidy with the SCU Later for the victory. Lucha Bros went on the attack after the match, and as Pentagon was about to hit a package piledriver on the chair, the lights went out. When they came back, Christopher Daniels attacked the Lucha Bros and ran them off while dressed like Pentagon. Grade: B- AEW Women's Championship -- Riho def. Emi Sakura via pinfall to retain the title: Teacher vs. student. Speed vs. Power. All the things you'd expect from a match between these two, with Riho looking to outpace the older, larger Sakura. At this point in the show, the dead crowd is starting to affect the way matches are coming across on the broadcast. Sakura hit a vicious cross body on Riho in the corner. Sakura also turned up her heel work as the match went on, raking the back and mocking referee Bryce Remsburg for intervening. Riho came back after a flurry of big moves and quick pinfall attempts by Sakura to hit a tilt-a-whirl into a pin to retain her championship. Good stuff from both women in a very solid showcase for the champion. Grade: B+ AEW World Championship -- Chris Jericho (c) def. Cody via corner stoppage to retain the title: Arn Anderson, Dean Malenko and The Great Muta were judges for the match, set to determine a winner should the match reach the 60-minute time limit. MJF was in Cody's corner while Jericho was seconded by Jake Hager. The match started with a slow pace, teasing the men would go the distance. Rhodes was busted open early after missing a dive and hitting his face on the entrance ramp. Cody also sold a rib injury from the dive as Jericho alternated focus between the cut over Cody's eye and attacking the ribs. Cody's mom got involved at ringside, yelling "f--k you" in Jericho's face as he taunted her. The distraction was enough for Cody to take over on offense and attack with a figure four. Hager got involved, landing a pair of right hands on Cody before he was ejected from ringside. In retaliation, he attacked MJF, tossing him into the guardrail. Using the distraction, Jericho laid out Cody with the championship belt. Cody was able to kick out. Cody countered the Judas Effect into Cross Rhodes, but the champ kicked out on the near fall. Jericho eventually removed his weight belt and whipped Cody several times. Cody escaped from the Liontamer once, but when it was locked in the second time, including a few stomps to the head, MJF threw in the towel to save Cody, giving Jericho the win after a tremendous effort from both men. After the match, an emotional MJF apologized to Cody before hitting him with a low blow before walking off. Grade: A- Unsanctioned, Lights Out Match -- Jon Moxley def. Kenny Omega via pinfall: This was not a wrestling match, it was a brawl featuring spots you'd expect from a death match card. Moxley opened up fast, blasting Omega with punches. Omega fired right back with shots of his own. They were quick to move the brawl out to the crowd, with Omega landing a flying stomp to a trash can on Moxley's abdomen. When the action returned to the ring, Moxley grabbed the barbed wire bat from under the ring, using it on the back of Omega and drawing blood. Moxley also raked Omega's arm with the bat to escape a snap dragon suplex. Omega came back with a piledriver on a trash can before grabbing -- and then throwing away -- the bat. He then left the ring to retrieve a table and the barbed wire broom, hitting Moxley in the head with it and drawing significant blood from the neck and back of Moxley. After the barbed wire assault left Moxley bleeding from the side of his face, Omega grabbed a board covered with mousetraps. The plan backfired as Omega was slammed on the board. Moxley brought out chains, slamming Omega on them repeatedly before placing one in the mouth of Moxley and wrenching back with a submission. After Moxley brought an ice pick into the ring, Omega fought back, eventually hanging Moxley from the side of the ring by the neck using the chain. Omega then brought out a bag of broken glass from the table Moxley had driven him through weeks ago. Omega hit a powerbomb into the glass but still couldn't get a pin. Moxley then had to crawl through broken glass to escape a Sharpshooter. After using the ice pick on the forehead of Moxley, Omega called out The Young Bucks and Adam Page, demanding they bring out a net of barbed wire. Moxley suplexed Omega into the barbed wire, with both men landing in the netting. After they were assisted out, Omega hit a V-Trigger through the Full Gear set. They ended up back in the ring, with Moxley hitting the Paradigm Shift in the glass, but again finding himself unable to get the pin. Moxley then cut away the padding on the ring apron. Omega missed a Phoenix Splash, landing on the exposed wood. Moxley followed up with a Paradigm Shift to get the pinfall. A spot fest, pure and simple, but one that paid off a lengthy program between Moxley and Omega. Grade: A- Last edited on Sun Nov 10th, 2019 06:45 am by Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 14th, 2019 02:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 194th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: How long is Luchasaurus out with his injury? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 14th, 2019 02:28 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 195th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: How long is Luchasaurus out with his injury? Welp, I guess I was a couple minutes premature. lol He's out there kicking ass right now. Last edited on Thu Nov 14th, 2019 02:28 am by carpetbeggar Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 14th, 2019 03:07 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 196th Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: My wife is laughing at this MJF - Chris Jericho Promo Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 14th, 2019 04:47 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 197th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/156.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu156')">Principal_Raditcha> wrote: My wife is laughing at this MJF - Chris Jericho Promo That was phenomenal. Best promo segment of the year, surpassing only a previous Jericho promo in AEW. MJF is a star. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 14th, 2019 05:23 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 198th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: That was a really fun show. One of the best episodes of AEW top to bottom with some different names getting a chance to be highlighted. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 15th, 2019 10:35 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 199th Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: I did not like the Jon Moxley vs. Kenny Omega PPV match. It went too long and that kind of garbage wrestling does not appeal to me. I also feel like they went to the gimmick match too soon and leave themselves nowhere to go with this feud from here, assuming it goes on. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 15th, 2019 11:19 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 200th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/72.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu72')">tamaliea> wrote: I did not like the Jon Moxley vs. Kenny Omega PPV match. It went too long and that kind of garbage wrestling does not appeal to me. I also feel like they went to the gimmick match too soon and leave themselves nowhere to go with this feud from here, assuming it goes on. They been feuding for 5 months now....where else can they go |
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Posted: Sat Nov 16th, 2019 06:13 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 201st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/72.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu72')">tamaliea> wrote: I did not like the Jon Moxley vs. Kenny Omega PPV match. It went too long and that kind of garbage wrestling does not appeal to me. I also feel like they went to the gimmick match too soon and leave themselves nowhere to go with this feud from here, assuming it goes on. I agree. Moxley is really killing it right now with his new attitude, but I think he needs to get away from that garbage style. It seems like every match he's had since leaving WWE he has had a table spot (and not announce table, which I would be okay with). I hate when guys get in a match and start looking under the apron for tables, ladders and other garbage. There is just something off with the overall psychology of how he is putting his matches and angles together. It was the same thing with the last ppv match he had with Joey Janela. That style of match has been played out for almost 20 years. He should just stick to the rough and tumble, Stan Hansen, Vader, Bruiser Brody, Steve Austin shtick. A chair, announce/timekeepers table and ring bell should be enough. Leave that "outlaw mud show" garbage shit to Ian Rotten and company in Bumblefuck, Indiana. :-)) Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 16th, 2019 04:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 202nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Everything I’ve heard is that Moxley is basically booking himself and just really, really wants to get back to the crazy shit he did in CZW and even top it. This is what he’s been craving for years and now he’s free to do it. He wanted Lesnar to do some of this shit with him at WM to make that a memorable match and Lesnar had no interest in doing anything but the bare minimum even if it was Moxley taking the bumps. This is just his mindset and why he left WWE. He’s not the guy who’s going to take his money and be happy. He’s a different kind of guy. Reading Renee Young’s tweets during his matches is a little fun and a little sad because she’s totally freaking out and everyone knows he’s putting his quality of life in jeopardy when he doesn’t need to in order to get over. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 16th, 2019 04:45 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 203rd Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: I loved the MJF promo this week. Phenomenal. Not a fan of the little boy and the tranny though. I think Jericho is gaining 5 pounds every week. Last edited on Sat Nov 16th, 2019 04:47 pm by Vintage Wrestling ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 16th, 2019 05:19 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 204th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Everything I’ve heard is that Moxley is basically booking himself and just really, really wants to get back to the crazy shit he did in CZW and even top it. This is what he’s been craving for years and now he’s free to do it. He wanted Lesnar to do some of this shit with him at WM to make that a memorable match and Lesnar had no interest in doing anything but the bare minimum even if it was Moxley taking the bumps. This is just his mindset and why he left WWE. He’s not the guy who’s going to take his money and be happy. He’s a different kind of guy. Reading Renee Young’s tweets during his matches is a little fun and a little sad because she’s totally freaking out and everyone knows he’s putting his quality of life in jeopardy when he doesn’t need to in order to get over. The problem I have with all that is if Moxley was concerned with the money anymore and all that nonesense why didn't he go work for CZW, Ian Rotten(joking), Big Japan, or some wrestling company that specializes in garbage wrestling. We'll see how hardcore he is. If she was that concerned during his matches, why is she tweeting during them?(again just joking). I don't blame her for freaking out, she probably doesn't want her husband looking like a burn victim and talking and drooling like a dummy five years after leaving the WWE. The more AEW keeps going, the more I think Tony Khan is a bigger mark than I thought. I'm liking AEW now, but I'm concerned for the future if he starts letting the inmates run the asylum too much. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 16th, 2019 08:49 pm PM Quote Reply 205th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Everything I’ve heard is that Moxley is basically booking himself and just really, really wants to get back to the crazy shit he did in CZW and even top it. This is what he’s been craving for years and now he’s free to do it. He wanted Lesnar to do some of this shit with him at WM to make that a memorable match and Lesnar had no interest in doing anything but the bare minimum even if it was Moxley taking the bumps. This is just his mindset and why he left WWE. He’s not the guy who’s going to take his money and be happy. He’s a different kind of guy. Reading Renee Young’s tweets during his matches is a little fun and a little sad because she’s totally freaking out and everyone knows he’s putting his quality of life in jeopardy when he doesn’t need to in order to get over. The problem I have with all that is if Moxley was concerned with the money anymore and all that nonesense why didn't he go work for CZW, Ian Rotten(joking), Big Japan, or some wrestling company that specializes in garbage wrestling. We'll see how hardcore he is. If you want to do garbage wrestling, AEW is the best place to do it. You get paid, the crowd is big, you get a week until your next match, and you only have to do one garbage match a month at the very, very most. It's not like he's Jun Kasai doing the most grotesque matches for 20 years and looking like a carnival freak, or wrestling for CZW in a field in Deleware where there are more people on the card than in the crowd. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Nov 17th, 2019 01:08 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 206th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Everything I’ve heard is that Moxley is basically booking himself and just really, really wants to get back to the crazy shit he did in CZW and even top it. This is what he’s been craving for years and now he’s free to do it. He wanted Lesnar to do some of this shit with him at WM to make that a memorable match and Lesnar had no interest in doing anything but the bare minimum even if it was Moxley taking the bumps. This is just his mindset and why he left WWE. He’s not the guy who’s going to take his money and be happy. He’s a different kind of guy. Reading Renee Young’s tweets during his matches is a little fun and a little sad because she’s totally freaking out and everyone knows he’s putting his quality of life in jeopardy when he doesn’t need to in order to get over. The problem I have with all that is if Moxley was concerned with the money anymore and all that nonesense why didn't he go work for CZW, Ian Rotten(joking), Big Japan, or some wrestling company that specializes in garbage wrestling. We'll see how hardcore he is. If you want to do garbage wrestling, AEW is the best place to do it. You get paid, the crowd is big, you get a week until your next match, and you only have to do one garbage match a month at the very, very most. It's not like he's Jun Kasai doing the most grotesque matches for 20 years and looking like a carnival freak, or wrestling for CZW in a field in Deleware where there are more people on the card than in the crowd. I agree, I was just referencing what rossi said he heard about Moxley wanting to top the crazy shit he did back in CZW. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Nov 17th, 2019 09:54 pm PM Quote Reply 207th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: AEW: 957,000 this week, big rise from the 822,000 last week NXT: 750,000, down from last week's 813,000 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Nov 17th, 2019 11:01 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 208th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: AEW: 957,000 this week, big rise from the 822,000 last week NXT: 750,000, down from last week's 813,000 Very good number for AEW and those viewers got to see a good show. I wonder how many WWE fans are just choosing to continue to watch NXT on WWE Network on delay rather than on USA live. The NXT numbers on USA are actually really disappointing, and those numbers are with WWE crossover and Survivor Series build. Last edited on Sun Nov 17th, 2019 11:01 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Nov 18th, 2019 06:26 am PM Quote Reply 209th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: In 2019, I don't think people are choosing which show to watch, but just how and when. Going head to head was not the best move. NXT is much easier to watch at your leisure, so more people will watch AEW live. If they weren't going head to head, both shows would be drawing 1.5M. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Nov 18th, 2019 08:53 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 210th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW Announces Nine-Day “Bash at the Beach” Fan Extravaganza -- Two Dynamite shows on Land & Sea Plus Nine Outrageous Days of Wrestling, Special Events, Live Music and Non-Stop Action from Miami to the Bahamas -- MIAMI, FL (Nov. 18, 2019) -- AEW today announced “Bash at the Beach,” an unprecedented, nine-day experience for superfans that features two Dynamite shows, a cruise onboard Chris Jericho’s tricked-out party ship, and non-stop entertainment in between. The adventure begins on Wednesday, Jan. 15, when AEW Dynamite takes over the Watsco Center at the University of Miami for a Bash at the Beach themed episode, and continues with Chris Jericho’s Rock ‘N’ Wrestling Rager at Sea, sailing round-trip from Miami to Nassau, Bahamas, on Jan. 20-24. High-octane bouts with the biggest names from AEW will be filmed from Jericho’s sold-out Norwegian Pearl ship, including the Jan. 22 episode of Dynamite on TNT. The history-making event will be bubbling with exclusive opportunities to meet AEW’s star-studded roster, as well as non-stop wrestling, rock ‘n’ roll, live podcasts, paranormal explorations, talent-hosted activities, autograph sessions, parties and more. “AEW’s Bash at the Beach events will deliver nine unforgettable days of wrestling and much more from the hottest company in the business today,” said Chris Jericho. “Thousands of the Friends Of Jericho onboard the SOLD OUT ‘Rock N Wrestling Rager At Sea’ will have the experience of their lives, and now millions more will be able to watch AEW Dynamite along with us, as we break out the bubbly together from Miami to the Bahamas.” Tickets for the Jan. 15 Bash at the Beach show in Miami go on sale this Friday, Nov. 22, at noon ET. Tickets for the show will be available for purchase exclusively at <A HREF="http://www.AEWTIX.com." TARGET="_blank">http://www.AEWTIX.com.A> For your chance to join the party at sea, sign up for the waitlist at <A HREF="http://www.chrisjerichocruise.com." TARGET="_blank">http://www.chrisjerichocruise.com.A> About AEW AEW is a new professional wrestling promotion headlined by members of The Elite (Cody & Brandi Rhodes, Matt & Nick Jackson, Kenny Omega and Hangman Page) and Chris Jericho and Jon Moxley. For the first time in many years, AEW is offering an alternative to mainstream wrestling, with a growing roster of world-class male and female wrestlers who are poised to bring new spirit, freshness and energy to the industry. The inaugural event under the AEW banner was DOUBLE OR NOTHING in Las Vegas, followed by FYTER FEST in Daytona Beach, FIGHT FOR THE FALLEN in Jacksonville, ALL OUT in Chicago, and FULL GEAR in Baltimore. AEW is broadcasting two-hour weekly shows on TNT (U.S.) on Wednesdays from 8 to 10 p.m. ET. The action-packed matches take place in different cities across the nation each Wednesday. For more info, check out @aewrestling (Twitter), @allelitewrestling (Instagram), /AllEliteWrestling (FB), AllEliteWrestling (YouTube). ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Nov 19th, 2019 02:51 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 211th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I think I'll pass on that nine day sausage party. Could you imagine being stuck on a ship with those AEW, smart mark cretins for that long? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Nov 19th, 2019 03:10 am PM Quote Reply 212th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: If Brandi's friends are half as hot as she is, I'm in. No pun(s) intended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 213th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Did Britt Baker just flat-back bump herself and put herself into pinning position? Someone needs to have a talk with Omega and convince him that this women's division that he supposedly has a hand in booking just ain't working out. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:32 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 214th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Did Britt Baker just flat-back bump herself and put herself into pinning position? Someone needs to have a talk with Omega and convince him that this women's division that he supposedly has a hand in booking just ain't working out. The women are a huge weakness in AEW. WWE has all the good ones except for Tessa Blanchard. Let’s face it, there’s not as many females out there who can do this at a high level and WWE has the monopoly on them. ROH is facing the same problem. MLW is about to start a women’s division and there’s literally no good ones left. Other companies need to take a step back and let WWE have this one. But if they try to, the SJWs will target them. Last edited on Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:34 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:35 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 215th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I thought that Dark Order vignette would have been funnier if those two guys had of stripped that fat guy in the subway down, whipped him with a belt and then poured honey and chicken feathers all over him. That would definitely give the show that Mid-South vibe that Tony Khan is looking for. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:37 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 216th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Did Britt Baker just flat-back bump herself and put herself into pinning position? Someone needs to have a talk with Omega and convince him that this women's division that he supposedly has a hand in booking just ain't working out. The women are a huge weakness in AEW. WWE has all the good ones except for Tessa Blanchard. Let’s face it, there’s not as many females out there who can do this at a high level and WWE has the monopoly on them. ROH is facing the same problem. MLW is about to start a women’s division and there’s literally no good ones left. Other companies need to take a step back and let WWE have this one. But if they try to, the SJWs will target them. They need to find a way to hide their weaknesses as much as they can if they are going to put them on their show. They have Awesome Kong, use her. Oh cool, Bart Gunn is in the Battle Royal. *edit** I mean Billy Gunn Last edited on Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:40 am by carpetbeggar Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:40 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 217th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Oh lord...Outlaw Mud Show time. Billy Gunn is playing the Andre role in this. He is so much bigger than all the rest. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:42 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 218th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: Lots of empty seats this week. Attendance seems to be dwindling. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:51 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 219th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: Lots of empty seats this week. Attendance seems to be dwindling. I don't know, that shot they just showed behind Tony and J.R. looked like it was pretty full. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:56 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 220th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: Lots of empty seats this week. Attendance seems to be dwindling. I don't know, that shot they just showed behind Tony and J.R. looked like it was pretty full. Lots of empty seats on the upper levels. There have also been reports of full sections behind the hard camera being tarped off. As I type this, they just came back from break and they had the camera on half of the arena. Last edited on Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:56 am by Vintage Wrestling ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 02:59 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 221st Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: Lots of empty seats this week. Attendance seems to be dwindling. The cost doesn't help. I just did a quick look. Most of these shows the tickets bottom out at 55 to 75. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 222nd Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/156.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu156')">Principal_Raditcha> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: Lots of empty seats this week. Attendance seems to be dwindling. The cost doesn't help. I just did a quick look. Most of these shows the tickets bottom out at 55 to 75. Wow. That’s ridiculous. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:12 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 223rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Oh yeah I just saw a different shot now with a huge section empty. Well,I guess it had to be expected. Didn't they start with a 1.5 million viewers and now are around 900,000? If all those people were interested in checking the promotion out when it debuted, why didn't they stay? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:21 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 224th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Oh yeah I just saw a different shot now with a huge section empty. Well,I guess it had to be expected. Didn't they start with a 1.5 million viewers and now are around 900,000? If all those people were interested in checking the promotion out when it debuted, why didn't they stay? Perhaps people noticed that every flippy floppy match is the same, then they seen the women’s division, luchasaurus, jungle boy, Marko Stunt, Sunny Kiss, Peter Avalon, Orange Cassidy, Hands Omega, etc. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 225th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Chris Jericho hit it out of the park with another tremendous promo and Scorpio Sky did a great job too. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:34 am PM Quote Reply 226th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Chris Jericho hit it out of the park with another tremendous promo and Scorpio Sky did a great job too. Yeah, that was f'n cool, despite what Melanie Parsons might think. I do love big butts though. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:35 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 227th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Chris Jericho hit it out of the park with another tremendous promo and Scorpio Sky did a great job too. Yeah, that was f'n cool, despite what Melanie Parsons might think. I do love big butts though. I would totally do Melanie Parsons. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:36 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 228th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: LAX and Private Party having the Matt Travis tribute match. Very classy. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:45 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 229th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: I liked Jericho making fat jokes when he himself is gaining 5-7 pounds each week. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:52 am PM Quote Reply 230th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Chris Jericho hit it out of the park with another tremendous promo and Scorpio Sky did a great job too. Yeah, that was f'n cool, despite what Melanie Parsons might think. I do love big butts though. I would totally do Melanie Parsons. Aaaaaaaaaah, yeah! Big butted white girl, I'd lick that shit upside down and all around in the 69 posistion. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:55 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 231st Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: I liked Jericho making fat jokes when he himself is gaining 5-7 pounds each day. Fixed ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:55 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 232nd Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Billy Gunn made this roster look like children. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:55 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 233rd Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: And amateurs Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 03:56 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 234th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Starting to think my two month wrestling resurgence is about done. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 04:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 235th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: That Moxley vs. Allin match was great ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 04:04 am PM Quote Reply 236th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: I liked Jericho making fat jokes when he himself is gaining 5-7 pounds each day. Fixed I liked Chris Jericho making fat jokes when he himself is gainining 5-7 thousand dollars each day. Fixed, ass clownns! Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 04:15 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 237th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: Starting to think my two month wrestling resurgence is about done. Yeah, I'm kinda heading that way myself. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 04:17 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 238th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: I liked Jericho making fat jokes when he himself is gaining 5-7 pounds each day. Fixed I liked Chris Jericho making fat jokes when he himself is gainining 5-7 thousand dollars each day. Fixed, ass clownns! Yeah that is a good salary for talking for 5 minutes a week and having mediocre matches once in a while. That’s a lot of spare time available to get in shape and look like someone who is one of the top figures in a wrestling company. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 04:26 am PM Quote Reply 239th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Yep. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 07:44 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 240th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I know a lot of people (including myself) give Meltzer a hard time about his biased narrative concerning AEW, but he has nothing on Bryan Alverez. Dear lord it is pathetic listening to him and Dave on WOR recapping Wednesday night. I know Alvarez isn't much of a "reporter", "journalist" or whatever he wants to pass himself off, but he is a very good wingman for Dave on the audio shows they do. He has a good radio voice and at times can be very entertaining to listen to, but lately he has been just really bad. AEW can do no wrong with him. Even if something was unarguably bad, at least with Dave he will be critical of it, but Bryan just makes excuse after excuse for that company. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 07:49 pm PM Quote Reply 241st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I know a lot of people (including myself) give Meltzer a hard time about his biased narrative concerning AEW, but he has nothing on Bryan Alverez. Dear lord it is pathetic listening to him and Dave on WOR recapping Wednesday night. I know Alvarez isn't much of a "reporter", "journalist" or whatever he wants to pass himself off, but he is a very good wingman for Dave on the audio shows they do. He has a good radio voice and at times can be very entertaining to listen to, but lately he has been just really bad. AEW can do no wrong with him. Even if something was unarguably bad, at least with Dave he will be critical of it, but Bryan just makes excuse after excuse for that company. Maybe after years of having to watch years and years of shitty WWE shows, he's just happy that he's watching a weekly show that he enjoys now. You don't enjoy, but the world would be boring if we all liked the same stuff. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 21st, 2019 07:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 242nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I know a lot of people (including myself) give Meltzer a hard time about his biased narrative concerning AEW, but he has nothing on Bryan Alverez. Dear lord it is pathetic listening to him and Dave on WOR recapping Wednesday night. I know Alvarez isn't much of a "reporter", "journalist" or whatever he wants to pass himself off, but he is a very good wingman for Dave on the audio shows they do. He has a good radio voice and at times can be very entertaining to listen to, but lately he has been just really bad. AEW can do no wrong with him. Even if something was unarguably bad, at least with Dave he will be critical of it, but Bryan just makes excuse after excuse for that company. Maybe after years of having to watch years and years of shitty WWE shows, he's just happy that he's watching a weekly show that he enjoys now. You don't enjoy, but the world would be boring if we all liked the same stuff. I haven't seen anything cringe-worthy in AEW so far that needs to be bashed that hard. It is what it is. You either like the flippy-floppy wrestling or you don't. The promos have been fantastic, the character development is starting to get there, and the matches are mostly good if you like that style. If Alvarez really likes those types of matches, I don't know what you want him to knock. I think last night's NXT was a better episode for the first time since they've gone head-to-head because I will take what The Revival and Fish & O'Reilly did over Darby Allin stuff any day of the week, but there's never been anything to date in AEW that makes me groan. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 22nd, 2019 12:20 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 243rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: The numbers are in for the eighth night of the Wednesday Night Wars and finally, AEW's winning streak has ended. For the first time, NXT beat AEW in overall viewership, while AEW had a higher number in the 18-49 demographic. AEW Dynamite on TNT did 893,000 overnight viewers, down from the 957,000 that they did last week. NXT on USA did 916,000 overnight viewers, up from last week's 750,000 overnight viewers. Looks like we have a real war on our hands. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 22nd, 2019 12:23 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 244th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Meltzer has somehow turned AEW’s first loss into a victory. Lol “If judging on who should be happier with the results, that would be AEW. To even debate that point would be foolish, but with the tribalism going on, people will try.” ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 22nd, 2019 03:07 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 245th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Meltzer has somehow turned AEW’s first loss into a victory. Lol “If judging on who should be happier with the results, that would be AEW. To even debate that point would be foolish, but with the tribalism going on, people will try.” Yeah I saw that to. He does have a point though in that WWE had to throw everyone they had, including their top workers from Raw and SD on the NXT show. HHH saying back when they started that this "war" is a marathon, not a sprint clearly is not the case. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 22nd, 2019 03:47 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 246th Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: I thought the spot with Jericho making fun of Stunt was hilarious, especially when after asking when Stunt was born and told 1996, Jericho calculating in his head how old he was, then claiming he was a kid with fake ID Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 22nd, 2019 03:50 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 247th Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: I liked Jericho making fat jokes when he himself is gaining 5-7 pounds each day. Fixed I liked Chris Jericho making fat jokes when he himself is gainining 5-7 thousand dollars each day. Fixed, ass clownns! But they're Canadian dollars, Monopoly money is worth more. BTW, fat boy is it true your blood type is poutine? ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 22nd, 2019 04:04 am PM Quote Reply 248th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BItterOldMana> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: I liked Jericho making fat jokes when he himself is gaining 5-7 pounds each day. Fixed I liked Chris Jericho making fat jokes when he himself is gainining 5-7 thousand dollars each day. Fixed, ass clownns! But they're Canadian dollars, Monopoly money is worth more. BTW, fat boy is it true your blood type is poutine? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 22nd, 2019 04:06 am PM Quote Reply 249th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Are you calling me out BOM? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Nov 26th, 2019 05:23 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 250th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Meltzer is reporting that WWE was not happy that Billy Gunn used his WWE trademarked name while wrestling on AEW Dynamite last week. Gunn also wrestled under that name on an AEW PPV before they got TV and no one really cared, but now that there is a TV "war" they were really surprised it happened again. WWE owns the name "Billy Gunn" and has always let him use it on non-televised indies, but AEW is a different story. Meltzer says that there are no plans to pursue legal action, and the timing of any griping is bad given what happened with Britt Baker at NXT, but there's "disappointment" that Gunn and AEW are doing this. Vince feels that he has been very good to Gunn and they mended fences and he put him in the HOF even after he left for AEW, and now he should know better. If it continues, WWE is absolutely within their rights to take legal action. As a preventative measure, AEW may decide to change Gunn's name, but he works there as an agent and there aren't many plans to use him as a wrestler going forward anyway except for the occasional surprise. Last edited on Tue Nov 26th, 2019 05:33 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Nov 26th, 2019 05:53 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 251st Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: He should just use Mr. Ass - there's no way that WWE kept up the trademark for that one. And I bet that this doesn't happen again now that Cody has trademarked "Dusty Rhodes". ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Nov 26th, 2019 06:02 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 252nd Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: They got the name "Billy Gunn" over on last week's show, just call him Billy now.. "OMG BILLY IS OUT HERE"..everyone will know who it is.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Nov 27th, 2019 04:12 am PM Quote Reply 253rd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: He should just use Mr. Ass - there's no way that WWE kept up the trademark for that one. And I bet that this doesn't happen again now that Cody has trademarked "Dusty Rhodes". Cody has also registered the trademarks Bash At The Beach, Battle Bowl, Slamboree, and Super Brawl. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 28th, 2019 04:13 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 254th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Joey Janela no-showed tonight and is unhappy with the way he’s being booked. This will be AEW’s downfall if they can’t get a tighter grip on the talent. It’s walking that fine line between being domineering like Vince and being complete pussies to the point that there is no boss. Even the guys begging for a release in WWE are at every single show because they know there will be holy hell to pay if they’re not. “Didn’t get on my flight for @aewrestling Dynamite tonight, I’m not going…. Nothing was addressed about the way I was eliminated from the match last week, I’m losing all the steam I created on my own through 14 years of hard work, right these wrongs and answer the phone..” Last edited on Thu Nov 28th, 2019 04:22 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 28th, 2019 05:33 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 255th Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Are you calling me out BOM? Only in character. ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 28th, 2019 05:57 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 256th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Joey Janela no-showed tonight and is unhappy with the way he’s being booked. This will be AEW’s downfall if they can’t get a tighter grip on the talent. It’s walking that fine line between being domineering like Vince and being complete pussies to the point that there is no boss. Even the guys begging for a release in WWE are at every single show because they know there will be holy hell to pay if they’re not. “Didn’t get on my flight for @aewrestling Dynamite tonight, I’m not going…. Nothing was addressed about the way I was eliminated from the match last week, I’m losing all the steam I created on my own through 14 years of hard work, right these wrongs and answer the phone..” Really curious to see where this goes; at the end of the day the boss needs to be a boss they need to be able to separate what is best for business from the employees feelings. This is already starting to sound like WCW jr. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 28th, 2019 07:07 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 257th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Jim Ross called one of the Japanese women an “oriental” last night. Say hi to Cornette for me, JR. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 28th, 2019 07:28 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 258th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: A new tag team debuted on Dynamite last night, attacking Cody Rhodes. They were identified as The Blade and The Butcher, managed by The Bunny. Bunny is Allie repackaged. Blade is her husband Braxton Sutter/Pepper Parks from Impact. Butcher is Andy Williams, the rhythm guitarist for metalcore band Every Time I Die who has been wrestling on the indies for a few years now. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 29th, 2019 04:21 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 259th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: Where was Schiavone last night? ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 29th, 2019 04:28 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 260th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: Where was Schiavone last night? Calling a Georgia Bulldogs game. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 29th, 2019 02:13 pm PM Quote Reply 261st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Jim Ross called one of the Japanese women an “oriental” last night. Say hi to Cornette for me, JR. J.R. has a backbone made of wet toilet paper. He'd apologize without hesitation if he was asked. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 29th, 2019 06:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 262nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I just have to say that this weeks AEW episode was the most entertaining weekly wresting show since RAW in 1997...REally, it was that good imo. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 29th, 2019 07:02 pm PM Quote Reply 263rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: Where was Schiavone last night? Calling a Georgia Bulldogs game. Whoever Marco Martinez is, he should never be allowed to speak ever again. Not just on TV, to anyone, ever. Worse than the worst of Percy Watson. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 29th, 2019 07:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 264th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: Where was Schiavone last night? Calling a Georgia Bulldogs game. Whoever Marco Martinez is, he should never be allowed to speak ever again. Not just on TV, to anyone, ever. Worse than the worst of Percy Watson. Thank God it was just for one match. He only said 4 words but the way he was whispering them annoyed me. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 29th, 2019 07:40 pm PM Quote Reply 265th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: AEW really need to do a better job of introducing unknown heels. Wardlow, The Blade, The Butcher and The Bunny. Who the fuck are these guys? Why did Excalibur know exactly who the guys under the ring were, but JR had zero clue? You can't just bring complete unknowns in and have them attack one of your main event names. Especially when the are not physically impressive at all. Two bald guys who wouldn't have looked out of place in SMW. The opening promo was awful this week. At least the crowd were into it, but Soul Train Jones, a 15 minute opening promo and a load of US sports bullshit that went right over my head did absolutely nothing for me. I could not give two fucks about ice hockey rivalries. If I was watching live, I would have turned over to NXT to see if they were showing any wrestling. Jericho's dad is a surprisingly decent promo, though. The second hour was very good. PAC vs Omega was the match of the night, but NXT is the better show at the moment. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 30th, 2019 02:54 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 266th Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: Seeing that AEW is only doing one show a week so far, are any of the bigger names (Jericho, Omega, Moxley, Bucks etc..._) working anywhere else right now? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 30th, 2019 03:04 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 267th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/156.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu156')">Principal_Raditcha> wrote: Seeing that AEW is only doing one show a week so far, are any of the bigger names (Jericho, Omega, Moxley, Bucks etc..._) working anywhere else right now? Moxley worked Japan right before they started the tv show, not sure if he’s gone back. Jericho is doing a couple matches a year in Japan but I think most of his non wrestling on AEW shows time is spent in the music world. Jericho doesn’t need the work. Kenny Omega has been working Mexico somewhat often and is the AAA some kind of Champion, think it’s the mega belt. I think the Bucks are working down there too, I think it’s all part of building a working relationship with them. But honestly, I think all of the guys that you mentioned are making decent money by NOT working anywhere else. AEW wanted some headliners, and they probably want to make the money off of them instead of other organizations. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 30th, 2019 03:06 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 268th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: AEW really need to do a better job of introducing unknown heels. Wardlow, The Blade, The Butcher and The Bunny. Who the fuck are these guys? Why did Excalibur know exactly who the guys under the ring were, but JR had zero clue? You can't just bring complete unknowns in and have them attack one of your main event names. Especially when the are not physically impressive at all. Two bald guys who wouldn't have looked out of place in SMW I agree. What the hell is from with Excalibur, does he just not get it? JR set him up perfectly to give us an explanation as to who they are and it flew right over his head. He just relied to JR that it was Blade and Butcher. The guy is so indy. I'm not sure he belongs long term if he cant adjust his style of announcing to appeal to the masses.How does Excalibur not get that? Last edited on Sat Nov 30th, 2019 12:24 pm by carpetbeggar Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 30th, 2019 03:13 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 269th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: What qualifications does Excalibur have? He wrestled like 10 years ago, but really, does that make him an announcer? I don’t think so. In fact, for as many people that have said that time has passed JR and he’s a shell of his old self, I still believe he’s better than Excalibur. I also think that the awful work that JR and Josh Barnett did with All Japan was better than Excalibur. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 30th, 2019 07:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 270th Post cdewar19 Joined: Mon Feb 22nd, 2010 Location: In The Ruins Of CanadInns Stadium, Manitoba Canada Posts: 1639 Status: Offline Mana: Excalibur was the announcer for PWG for a long period of time. JR sucks because he doesn't enjoy what AEW is doing. Skeeavone is clearly their best announcer. ____________________ "Getting promotionally outmaneuvered by TNA is like when Cartman lost all of his events at the Special Olympics." - tofu chipmunk Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 30th, 2019 12:28 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 271st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: The audience was asking the same question as JR was. Why did Excalibur know their name? He may know all the moves and wrestlers, but that's all that he seems to know. The guy is clueless. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 30th, 2019 05:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 272nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: For some bizarre reason, former WCW announcer Chris Cruise, who hasn’t been heard from in a few decades, has taken it upon himself to report AEW to the Maryland State Athletic Commission. He believes that the Omega vs. Moxley match violated their standards and is trying to get the company banned in the state. The Commission says they will look into it. What a tool. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 30th, 2019 06:19 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 273rd Post DJP Joined: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 Location: Posts: 1100 Status: Offline Mana: From what I've read about him Chris Cruise seems like a total douchebag. ____________________ I live alone. I train alone. I'll win the title alone. -Clubber Lang Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 30th, 2019 10:29 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 274th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: For some bizarre reason, former WCW announcer Chris Cruise, who hasn’t been heard from in a few decades, has taken it upon himself to report AEW to the Maryland State Athletic Commission. He believes that the Omega vs. Moxley match violated their standards and is trying to get the company banned in the state. The Commission says they will look into it. What a tool. I wonder, does he have any involvement with one of the indies that run in the Baltimore area? If so then he is just using some of those old promoter tactics from back in the day. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 30th, 2019 11:17 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 275th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: Isn’t Cruise in or wasn’t he in the FBI? Not the wrestling faction but the law enforcement group? ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Dec 1st, 2019 12:16 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 276th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: Isn’t Cruise in or wasn’t he in the FBI? Not the wrestling faction but the law enforcement group? I don't know but he looked like an 80-year old pedophile in WCW, and that was decades ago. I don't know how he's still alive. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Dec 1st, 2019 12:34 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 277th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: I always laughed when Terry Funk called him crispy cruiser ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Dec 1st, 2019 05:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 278th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I just watched the Highspots Bruiser Brody documentary earlier in the week and Cruise was interviews in it. I hadn't seen or heard that name in years and years,,,and then he turns up involved in this stunt. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Dec 1st, 2019 06:42 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 279th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Just watched this weeks show which I recorded since I was out of town. Fast forwarded. Done in 20 minutes. Not a good sign for me....interest is rapidly waning. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Dec 1st, 2019 06:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 280th Post WongLee HALL OF FAMER Joined: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 Location: East Patchogue, New York USA Posts: 8988 Status: Offline Mana: Cruise is actually pretty active on Facebook. I really doubt he was with the FBI as I'm sure the Bureau frowned upon their agents moonlighting as carnies. ____________________ ...quite frankly, who the fuck is Ad Santel? - srossi. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Dec 1st, 2019 07:17 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 281st Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/54.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu54')">WongLeea> wrote: Cruise is actually pretty active on Facebook. I really doubt he was with the FBI as I'm sure the Bureau frowned upon their agents moonlighting as carnies. Maybe it wasn’t the FBI but he had a regular job and WCW was a part time thing I remember tony saying unless it was another announcer I am thinking of. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Dec 1st, 2019 08:34 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 282nd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/54.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu54')">WongLeea> wrote: Cruise is actually pretty active on Facebook. I really doubt he was with the FBI as I'm sure the Bureau frowned upon their agents moonlighting as carnies. Maybe it wasn’t the FBI but he had a regular job and WCW was a part time thing I remember tony saying unless it was another announcer I am thinking of. You’re thinking of Mark Madden, who worked full time in WCW and part time at Seaworld as the backup Shamu. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Dec 1st, 2019 10:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 283rd Post DJP Joined: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 Location: Posts: 1100 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/54.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu54')">WongLeea> wrote: Cruise is actually pretty active on Facebook. I really doubt he was with the FBI as I'm sure the Bureau frowned upon their agents moonlighting as carnies. Maybe it wasn’t the FBI but he had a regular job and WCW was a part time thing I remember tony saying unless it was another announcer I am thinking of. I remember it being Scott Hudson. ____________________ I live alone. I train alone. I'll win the title alone. -Clubber Lang Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 6th, 2019 05:13 am PM Quote Reply 284th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: AEW with a good bounce back at 851,000 households beating NXT this week, who got 845,000. Very close week for the shows but AEW bouncing back from last week is the real story. More great promos from Jericho and Cody too. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 6th, 2019 06:14 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 285th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/248.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu248')">DJPa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/54.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu54')">WongLeea> wrote: Cruise is actually pretty active on Facebook. I really doubt he was with the FBI as I'm sure the Bureau frowned upon their agents moonlighting as carnies. Maybe it wasn’t the FBI but he had a regular job and WCW was a part time thing I remember tony saying unless it was another announcer I am thinking of. I remember it being Scott Hudson. Thank you for the correction ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 7th, 2019 02:51 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 286th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: I’m still watching the weekly AEW show on TNT and I really don’t see where this company is going. This week had Marko Stunt and Jungle Boy in the mix with the top guys. The Tranny is still getting airtime, and Joey Janela’s complaining finally got him a main event match. Last week, Excalibur made Jim Ross look fucking stupid when he knew the names of the people that came from under the ring. Everybody is still flippin’ and floppin’ as well. Anything with Jericho, Rhodes, and MJF is always awesome, but promos can’t keep holding this together. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 13th, 2019 03:31 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 287th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW and NXT tied this week, with exactly 778,000 viewers each. That number was down about 75,000 for both shows. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 13th, 2019 05:27 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 288th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: So we’re two months in now, what are everybody’s thoughts...if you’re still watching, or if you gave them a chance and stopped watching already, why? I’m still watching but it’s not essential viewing as it was at first. Overall I like the show, which is more than I can say for WWE shows these days, but I still find myself wondering who half the guys are or why I should care. I don’t really feel like there are any angles, just a bunch of wrestling matches each week. Feels very thin at the top from a starpower standpoint. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 13th, 2019 05:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 289th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: So we’re two months in now, what are everybody’s thoughts...if you’re still watching, or if you gave them a chance and stopped watching already, why? I’m still watching but it’s not essential viewing as it was at first. Overall I like the show, which is more than I can say for WWE shows these days, but I still find myself wondering who half the guys are or why I should care. I don’t really feel like there are any angles, just a bunch of wrestling matches each week. Feels very thin at the top from a starpower standpoint. I like both AEW and NXT. I think they're different and that's just fine. AEW is short on promos but the ones they have are tremendous, some of the best I've heard in years. Character development is still lacking. The matches are the matches - they're indy spotfests and lots of people like that and lots of people don't so I don't see the use of arguing about it every week. NXT is hit or miss with some really great matches and some filler. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 13th, 2019 06:38 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 290th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: I haven’t watched anything current since the takeover / survivor series weekend outside of a segment here or there. AEW turned me off with their multiple platforms I have no interest in chasing their product across TNT, YouTube and B/R app and whatever else they have. I’m not that old but I’m not that interested to try and figure it out so I just said fuck it and moved on. On top of that the E has spoiled the PPV system by giving them away for free so why would I pay for a AEW PPV when I wouldn’t pay for Wrestlemania. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 13th, 2019 10:59 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 291st Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: So we’re two months in now, what are everybody’s thoughts...if you’re still watching, or if you gave them a chance and stopped watching already, why? I’m still watching but it’s not essential viewing as it was at first. Overall I like the show, which is more than I can say for WWE shows these days, but I still find myself wondering who half the guys are or why I should care. I don’t really feel like there are any angles, just a bunch of wrestling matches each week. Feels very thin at the top from a starpower standpoint. I watch Jericho's stuff, Cody's stuff and MJF. The rest is fast forward fodder. ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 14th, 2019 12:12 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 292nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Chris Jericho went on Konnan’s podcast and said this: “I called a team meeting — I’ll tell you right now. The lack of tags and the lack of just normal tag team wrestling psychology drove me nuts to the point where that was one of the big knocks against our company in about week three or four if you remember. “They started making excuses for the Lucha Brothers cause I’ll be honest with ya, tagging out they’re lazy. They don’t care. They just walk in and out whenever they want and do whatever they want and it’s not right. It’s not how you do it. “They would make excuses and they would say, ‘Oh, it’s lucha libre style.’ Huh, that’s funny because guess what? I worked in Mexico for two years and guess how you make a tag in a lucha libre match? You stand on the corner and you wait for a guy to touch you and you walk in. That’s lucha libre rules, AKA tag team rules. “So, I called a meeting with the whole crew and said you’re burying the refs. If you don’t have any rules then you don’t get any heat and it’s killing our show because our honeymoon period is over and now people are watching us and they’re being confused by the lack of rules. So that’s changing slowly.” ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 14th, 2019 10:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 293rd Post hammettime Joined: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 Location: Posts: 568 Status: Offline Mana: i was talking to my buddy last night. aew has at least 2-3 indy balls out matches every week. occasionally i love those type of matches. i am a big fan of PWG, where many of these guys have been regularly over the years. the big difference is PWG runs about six or seven shows a year, not weekly, the indy flippy kick out of 30 finishers isn't as annoying and is more palatable with a less is more approach imo. i love the presentation of aew and am very curious to see how NXT will look when their tv starts traveling. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 18th, 2019 08:38 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 294th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW announced that in 2020 they will begin an official podcast hosted by Tony Schiavone and produced by Warnermedia. So now there will be podcast wars with WWE's hosted by Corey Graves. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 18th, 2019 08:50 pm PM Quote Reply 295th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/286.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu286')">hammettimea> wrote: i love the presentation of aew and am very curious to see how NXT will look when their tv starts traveling. Do you know something we don't? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 19th, 2019 03:40 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 296th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: So we have Page and Omega angle interrupted by Pack. Which was ok but then they go to commercial and have nothing when they return to close out the segment and build it commentary-wise. Announcers don’t even mention it. Then Blade Bunny people who they still have not gotten over what is their point. I guess they tried say MJF hired them. Sort of. But still no clear objective. Bunny is kind of hot though. Then, Brandy Rhodes is evil but it is just stupid. They do try the JR Jungle Boy interview in ring ESPN/NFL pregame show style. That was good, but needed to be Tony, he comes off more likeable than JR. Jungle Boy was bland and probably nervous but those segments make it seem “real”. But then the stip with Jericho? That could have been so much better. There was nothing at stake. Now Jericho on to Moxley? The booking is just a convoluted/ half done mess. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 19th, 2019 04:07 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 297th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: This Dark Order crap. Ugh Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 19th, 2019 02:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 298th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: This Dark Order crap. Ugh Didn't watch last night's show yet, but people want original characters and then shit over the first original characters that AEW tries to create. Give it a chance. At least it's an attempt at character development. For the record, I'm not a fan either, just sayin'... ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 01:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 299th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: I don’t want characters Rossi, I want old school rasslers. This is just hokey. They are missing boat bigly with Blanchard. He needs to be talking about recreating Tully Blanchard Enterprises. Have arn involved and opposing him somehow. Have TBE go after Dustin or Cody. Have Arn try to assist the Rhodes only for them to turn on the Rhodes yet again Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 01:33 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 300th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: I don’t want characters Rossi, I want old school rasslers. This is just hokey. They are missing boat bigly with Blanchard. He needs to be talking about recreating Tully Blanchard Enterprises. Have arn involved and opposing him somehow. Have TBE go after Dustin or Cody. Have Arn try to assist the Rhodes only for them to turn on the Rhodes yet again Honestly revisiting the Rhodes vs. Horseman feud has very limited appeal to 99% of fans in 2020, even the ones that know the history. They’re mostly killing WWE in the under 40 demo and focusing on that, so this isn’t going to happen. 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Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 02:21 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 301st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Just finished watching last night’s episode and I thought it was the worst one yet. They did not end the year on a high note. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 03:33 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 302nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Sammy Guevara did not appreciate his WWE tryout in 2017: “I did have a WWE tryout in 2017, but I think it was just for me to get into the system. It was definitely a difficult tryout. I was doing a bunch of cardio leading up to that. I had the elevation masks on. They were making us run the ropes, dropping down over bags, high knees holding on to the top ropes. We would do that in 5 different rings, and then line back up and do all sorts of different stuff. William Regal was there; Norman Smiley was there. Ricky Starks was in the tryout as well.” “I don’t think any wrestler got signed. I think a collegiate wrestler got signed. It felt that if you want to do this for a living f*ck you, but these models, ex-Football players they treated them really good and almost shame on you for actually wanting to be a wrestler.” “It seemed like when the cameras were on they really played it up. It felt like a whole gimmick to me because everyone was chill until the cameras were on and suddenly they start drilling and yelling at you. I’m like, alright, I see what this is. It definitely opened up my eyes because I wouldn’t want to be there, maybe not ever, but certainly not now just because of the way they treated me. Maybe it’s different now, I don’t know, but during that time I saw that unless I was a somebody it’s going to be hell here.” ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 04:31 pm PM Quote Reply 303rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: I don’t want characters Rossi, I want old school rasslers. This is just hokey. They are missing boat bigly with Blanchard. He needs to be talking about recreating Tully Blanchard Enterprises. Have arn involved and opposing him somehow. Have TBE go after Dustin or Cody. Have Arn try to assist the Rhodes only for them to turn on the Rhodes yet again Honestly revisiting the Rhodes vs. Horseman feud has very limited appeal to 99% of fans in 2020, even the ones that know the history. They’re mostly killing WWE in the under 40 demo and focusing on that, so this isn’t going to happen. But obviously Tully could be better utilized, so you won’t get an argument from me on that. Quattro, I don't know why you watch AEW, because it's never going to become the wrestling that you want it to. I would compare this to a sitcom fan who loves Friends watching 30 Rock every week but complaining that it's too wacky and surreal, or a Patrick Stewart fan who loved him doing Shakespeare in the theater complaining that every episode in Star Trek is set in space and the aliens look ridiculous. AEW is what it is, indie wrestling done on a grand scale. Hopefully they will take stock and realise that not everything that works in PWG works on weekly television. If you're not watching it already, you would enjoy NXT a lot more. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 04:39 pm PM Quote Reply 304th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Sammy Guevara did not appreciate his WWE tryout in 2017: “I did have a WWE tryout in 2017, but I think it was just for me to get into the system. It was definitely a difficult tryout. I was doing a bunch of cardio leading up to that. I had the elevation masks on. They were making us run the ropes, dropping down over bags, high knees holding on to the top ropes. We would do that in 5 different rings, and then line back up and do all sorts of different stuff. William Regal was there; Norman Smiley was there. Ricky Starks was in the tryout as well.” “I don’t think any wrestler got signed. I think a collegiate wrestler got signed. It felt that if you want to do this for a living f*ck you, but these models, ex-Football players they treated them really good and almost shame on you for actually wanting to be a wrestler.” “It seemed like when the cameras were on they really played it up. It felt like a whole gimmick to me because everyone was chill until the cameras were on and suddenly they start drilling and yelling at you. I’m like, alright, I see what this is. It definitely opened up my eyes because I wouldn’t want to be there, maybe not ever, but certainly not now just because of the way they treated me. Maybe it’s different now, I don’t know, but during that time I saw that unless I was a somebody it’s going to be hell here.” No one should be surprised by this. While WWE have been happy to sign top name indie talent for developmental (who don't go through these try-outs), they almost never sign low-level indie guys. It should have been no surprise to him that a non-wrestler with something unique is much more likely to get signed than an indie wrestler. If you saw how they treated Matt Cross in Tough Enough, this is blatantly obvious. Plus, he's made it to the top of the indies now, so he should shut up, because one day he might want to sign with WWE, and someone might remember this interview. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 04:42 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 305th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Sammy Guevara did not appreciate his WWE tryout in 2017: “I did have a WWE tryout in 2017, but I think it was just for me to get into the system. It was definitely a difficult tryout. I was doing a bunch of cardio leading up to that. I had the elevation masks on. They were making us run the ropes, dropping down over bags, high knees holding on to the top ropes. We would do that in 5 different rings, and then line back up and do all sorts of different stuff. William Regal was there; Norman Smiley was there. Ricky Starks was in the tryout as well.” “I don’t think any wrestler got signed. I think a collegiate wrestler got signed. It felt that if you want to do this for a living f*ck you, but these models, ex-Football players they treated them really good and almost shame on you for actually wanting to be a wrestler.” “It seemed like when the cameras were on they really played it up. It felt like a whole gimmick to me because everyone was chill until the cameras were on and suddenly they start drilling and yelling at you. I’m like, alright, I see what this is. It definitely opened up my eyes because I wouldn’t want to be there, maybe not ever, but certainly not now just because of the way they treated me. Maybe it’s different now, I don’t know, but during that time I saw that unless I was a somebody it’s going to be hell here.” No one should be surprised by this. While WWE have been happy to sign top name indie talent for developmental (who don't go through these try-outs), they almost never sign low-level indie guys. It should have been no surprise to him that a non-wrestler with something unique is much more likely to get signed than an indie wrestler. If you saw how they treated Matt Cross in Tough Enough, this is blatantly obvious. Plus, he's made it to the top of the indies now, so he should shut up, because one day he might want to sign with WWE, and someone might remember this interview. There's a bunch of really random guys that WWE has signed with very low-level indy experience. There's a bunch right now in the PC still trying to get on TV. I'm sure they're not treated great, but it's possible to get a contract. You even look at guys like The Street Prophets and who the fuck were they before they were signed? ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 04:50 pm PM Quote Reply 306th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Sammy Guevara did not appreciate his WWE tryout in 2017: “I did have a WWE tryout in 2017, but I think it was just for me to get into the system. It was definitely a difficult tryout. I was doing a bunch of cardio leading up to that. I had the elevation masks on. They were making us run the ropes, dropping down over bags, high knees holding on to the top ropes. We would do that in 5 different rings, and then line back up and do all sorts of different stuff. William Regal was there; Norman Smiley was there. Ricky Starks was in the tryout as well.” “I don’t think any wrestler got signed. I think a collegiate wrestler got signed. It felt that if you want to do this for a living f*ck you, but these models, ex-Football players they treated them really good and almost shame on you for actually wanting to be a wrestler.” “It seemed like when the cameras were on they really played it up. It felt like a whole gimmick to me because everyone was chill until the cameras were on and suddenly they start drilling and yelling at you. I’m like, alright, I see what this is. It definitely opened up my eyes because I wouldn’t want to be there, maybe not ever, but certainly not now just because of the way they treated me. Maybe it’s different now, I don’t know, but during that time I saw that unless I was a somebody it’s going to be hell here.” No one should be surprised by this. While WWE have been happy to sign top name indie talent for developmental (who don't go through these try-outs), they almost never sign low-level indie guys. It should have been no surprise to him that a non-wrestler with something unique is much more likely to get signed than an indie wrestler. If you saw how they treated Matt Cross in Tough Enough, this is blatantly obvious. Plus, he's made it to the top of the indies now, so he should shut up, because one day he might want to sign with WWE, and someone might remember this interview. There's a bunch of really random guys that WWE has signed with very low-level indy experience. There's a bunch right now in the PC still trying to get on TV. I'm sure they're not treated great, but it's possible to get a contract. You even look at guys like The Street Prophets and who the fuck were they before they were signed? Neither of the Street Profits had done any pro wrestling before they were signed. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 04:53 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 307th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Sammy Guevara did not appreciate his WWE tryout in 2017: “I did have a WWE tryout in 2017, but I think it was just for me to get into the system. It was definitely a difficult tryout. I was doing a bunch of cardio leading up to that. I had the elevation masks on. They were making us run the ropes, dropping down over bags, high knees holding on to the top ropes. We would do that in 5 different rings, and then line back up and do all sorts of different stuff. William Regal was there; Norman Smiley was there. Ricky Starks was in the tryout as well.” “I don’t think any wrestler got signed. I think a collegiate wrestler got signed. It felt that if you want to do this for a living f*ck you, but these models, ex-Football players they treated them really good and almost shame on you for actually wanting to be a wrestler.” “It seemed like when the cameras were on they really played it up. It felt like a whole gimmick to me because everyone was chill until the cameras were on and suddenly they start drilling and yelling at you. I’m like, alright, I see what this is. It definitely opened up my eyes because I wouldn’t want to be there, maybe not ever, but certainly not now just because of the way they treated me. Maybe it’s different now, I don’t know, but during that time I saw that unless I was a somebody it’s going to be hell here.” No one should be surprised by this. While WWE have been happy to sign top name indie talent for developmental (who don't go through these try-outs), they almost never sign low-level indie guys. It should have been no surprise to him that a non-wrestler with something unique is much more likely to get signed than an indie wrestler. If you saw how they treated Matt Cross in Tough Enough, this is blatantly obvious. Plus, he's made it to the top of the indies now, so he should shut up, because one day he might want to sign with WWE, and someone might remember this interview. There's a bunch of really random guys that WWE has signed with very low-level indy experience. There's a bunch right now in the PC still trying to get on TV. I'm sure they're not treated great, but it's possible to get a contract. You even look at guys like The Street Prophets and who the fuck were they before they were signed? Neither of the Street Profits had done any pro wrestling before they were signed. Angelo Dawkins is a guy who I thought had bounced around a lot, but maybe not. I feel like I've been hearing that name forever, but not as a high-level guy. Last edited on Fri Dec 20th, 2019 04:53 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 04:58 pm PM Quote Reply 308th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Angelo Dawkins is a guy who I thought had bounced around a lot, but maybe not. I feel like I've been hearing that name forever, but not as a high-level guy. Dawkins was an amateur wrestler. He debuted on NXT TV in early 2014 and went through a few different gimmicks, mostly as a jobber, until the Street Profits got going. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 08:11 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 309th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: So NXT beat AEW in all the demos last night, even the 18-49. I would think AEW would be concerned with only half as many people who watched their first couple shows watching now. They are still losing viewers week to week. I see Meltzer is now being more critical of their booking now (and rightfully so). Tony Khan needs to sit his EVP's down and straight up tell them that they just do not have a clue what they are doing when it comes to booking. Omega especially needs an intervention to be told his "joshi" wrestlers he loves so much are just horrid. I don't care if their loser fan boy crowd that goes to their live shows think Riho is "cute and cuddly" she can't work a lick. 80% or their women's roster should not be allowed on TV unless they are paid extras, just there for someone like Awesome Kong to squash. It seems so much of what AEW does is only booked to get over with their die-hard audience who buy the tickets to see them live and were already indy fans previously. They don't seem to be doing much to get anyone else interested in watching every week. <A HREF="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2019/12/19/wwe-nxt-obliterates-aew-dynamite-in-final-ratings-showdown-of-2019/#8c6f8154205a" TARGET="_blank">https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2019/12/19/wwe-nxt-obliterates-aew-dynamite-in-final-ratings-showdown-of-2019/#8c6f8154205aA> "Following last week’s unlikely tie, WWE NXT drew an average viewership of 795,000, up 2% from 778,000 viewers last week. AEW Dynamite’s season finale drew 683,000 average viewers—down 12% from 778,000 last week. For the first time since the start of the Wednesday Night Wars, NXT also won the night in the 18-49 demos, ranking No. 27 while AEW Dynamite came in at No. 30." Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 08:16 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 310th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: So NXT beat AEW in all the demos last night, even the 18-49. I would think AEW would be concerned with only half as many people who watched their first couple shows watching now. They are still losing viewers week to week. I see Meltzer is now being more critical of their booking now (and rightfully so). Meltzer has been pushing the young demo numbers so hard and making every ratings loss sound like a resounding victory because of that, but last night they finally lost the 18-49 demo so that seems like a bad sign. Meltzer hilariously blamed the bad ratings on the impeachment hearings, saying both shows were down because of it! As if anyone in AEW's young demo gives a shit about that. Then, when someone pointed out that NXT's viewership was actually up overall compared to last week, he said something like, "Well it would've been up more without the impeachment hearings but AEW was really hurt by them." And then he gets combative on Twitter with people who mock him. Last edited on Fri Dec 20th, 2019 08:17 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 09:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 311th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tony Schiavone is all fired up on the "Whatever happened To" podcast “Well Eric got f*cked over once by Vince [McMahon] this year, so why wouldn’t Vince f*ck him over again? You know what? That’s f*cking fine with me. And I hope that I’m working with AEW until the day I die, because once it’s all over with, my family has been instructed, I’ve told you this I think on the air here before, my family has been instructed that if they want to induct me in anyway, postmortem, the answer from the family is no. So, don’t expect from me to be inducted into the WWE Hall Of Fame. You know, now I’m pissed off. I’m pissed off because Eric is not a part of the n.W.o. into the Hall Of Fame, and I’m pissed off because Eric got f*cked over by Vince McMahon. Not Bruce Prichard, who’s our friend, who’s a good guy, straight up guy, but by Vince McMahon. You know, and everybody knows that Eric was brought in just so he could get fired, and that f*cking sucks. I know it, and I’ll guarantee you that I’m right, and the fact he wasn’t put in the n.W.o. Hall Of Fame — into the Hall Of Fame with the n.W.o. confirms it.” Last edited on Fri Dec 20th, 2019 09:15 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 09:23 pm PM Quote Reply 312th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: In what universe is Tony getting posthumously inducted into the WWE HOF? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 04:18 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 313th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: AEW needs a booker. Like a singular creative person to book. I was hoping AEW would be an American jazzed up version of a Japanese promotion based around a real supposed athletic competition instead, I am not sure what the heck it is honestly. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 04:23 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 314th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: In what universe is Tony getting posthumously inducted into the WWE HOF? Tony’s ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 05:01 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 315th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Guess I should try NXT Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 02:28 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 316th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: I’ve completely given up on AEW and cancelled my subscription to Sling. Same goes for NWA Power. Hokey as fuck. NXT is the only show that resembles pro wrestling. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 02:53 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 317th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: So who’s gonna post that Dark Order gif going around? ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 03:21 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 318th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: NWA Power is so close to having something yet so far. But comes across like a parody of 80s wrestling for 50% of the show. Can’t someone just watch some 84 midsouth, 86 Crockett, 96 wcw and 93 AJPW take the best elements, put a modern spin on it, and give us a real product. Maybe it won’t be successful. But based on the initial weeks of AEW there is a good chunk of people that tuned in looking for something but not finding it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 05:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 319th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: I really want to like AEW and was pretty into it from the start but they are starting to lose me. I'm not into the WWE style much at all anymore and wanted something that resembles what we all grew up on but I think that’s wishful thinking at this point. It’s either WWE or flippy floppy no selling indie style, and I don’t think there is any middle ground or alternative anymore m. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 05:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 320th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: I really want to like AEW and was pretty into it from the start but they are starting to lose me. I'm not into the WWE style much at all anymore and wanted something that resembles what we all grew up on but I think that’s wishful thinking at this point. It’s either WWE or flippy floppy no selling indie style, and I don’t think there is any middle ground or alternative anymore m. NXT is the closest blend that you’re going to get. If that doesn’t do it for you, you probably have to give up on wrestling. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 06:03 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 321st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Cody seems to be alluding to the consensus opinion that Scurll will spend a few months in the NWA and indies before coming to AEW. Not sure why he’s not jumping straight away, but everyone says Scurll is a bit of a free spirit. Cody on @martyscurll: "Marty is going to do what Marty is going to do. We all love Marty. Anything he does in the next few weeks or months, I wouldn't look at as permanent for him. He's very much testing the waters here and there and that's pretty much all I can say on Marty." pic.twitter.com/SRvLGPZGrp — Alex McCarthy (@alexm_talkSPORT) December 17, 2019 ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 06:48 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 322nd Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: I really want to like AEW and was pretty into it from the start but they are starting to lose me. I'm not into the WWE style much at all anymore and wanted something that resembles what we all grew up on but I think that’s wishful thinking at this point. It’s either WWE or flippy floppy no selling indie style, and I don’t think there is any middle ground or alternative anymore m. NXT is the closest blend that you’re going to get. If that doesn’t do it for you, you probably have to give up on wrestling. Yeah good point. I really never watched the NXT weekly show but may have to give it another shot. Without going back waaay too far and never catching up, is there a starting point that would be as good as any? ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 07:05 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 323rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: I really want to like AEW and was pretty into it from the start but they are starting to lose me. I'm not into the WWE style much at all anymore and wanted something that resembles what we all grew up on but I think that’s wishful thinking at this point. It’s either WWE or flippy floppy no selling indie style, and I don’t think there is any middle ground or alternative anymore m. NXT is the closest blend that you’re going to get. If that doesn’t do it for you, you probably have to give up on wrestling. Yeah good point. I really never watched the NXT weekly show but may have to give it another shot. Without going back waaay too far and never catching up, is there a starting point that would be as good as any? Watch all the Takeovers and anything involving Gargano and Ciampa. Other than that, just jump in. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 07:26 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 324th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: Guess I should try NXT You and me both. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 07:29 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 325th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I was just thinking about this and I cannot remember if they did, but have The Young Bucks even cut a promo or been interviewed on an episode of 'Dynamite' yet? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 07:34 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 326th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: Guess I should try NXT You and me both. Same here ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 10:41 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 327th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: Guess I should try NXT You and me both. Same here I have the last five weeks of NXT saves on my Dvr. I'm going to be honest, I haven't watched NWA Powerrr since the Cornette debacle, although I may catch up on that at some point. I still watch AEW live every week, but the last month has morphed into me having it on with the volume turned down and me on my laptop reading something or watching YouTube videos. If I notice something big happening or someone cutting a promo, I will turn up the volume and rewind so I can watch it. The Young Bucks' highspot matches do not keep my interest. It's just looks too choreographed and all their matches just blend together to the point where if someone asked me about a specific match of theirs, I wouldn't remember because they end up being all the same. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 04:19 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 328th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: I just seen that clip of the phony punches and another clip of Tony Khan giving someone a stunner. AEW should change their name to LOL. This shit isn’t gonna last. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 06:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 329th Post Kubrick Joined: Tue Aug 7th, 2018 Location: Posts: 35 Status: Offline Mana: On the latest episode of the JC Experience, Cornette and Brian Last discussed the graphics used for Justin Roberts and Adam Page during the opening segment of last week's opener. These captions are ridiculous. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 07:02 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 330th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Um, what's ridiculous about the Justin Roberts one? What else is there to say about a ring announcer? I can't tell if the Page one is supposed to be a joke or if they were just typing suggestions to each other and forgot to fix it before it aired. I don't think they really need captions, and I'd like to see them stop emphasizing the won-loss records too since everyone is a .500 wrestler. Last edited on Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 07:02 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 07:09 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 331st Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: I think the Page one is funny; I would have laughed if I was watching the show and saw it. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 07:13 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 332nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: I think the Page one is funny; I would have laughed if I was watching the show and saw it. I agree. What everyone keeps on forgetting is that the audience is filled with 20-year olds who grew up on Twitter. Then you have fossils like Cornette trying to dissect every little thing and explain how it never would've gotten over in 1979 in Memphis. No shit. I hear that jokes about Ethiopians and fried chicken were popular back then though. If it was a production mistake then so be it, but it likely was a joke. Last edited on Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 07:15 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 07:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 333rd Post Kubrick Joined: Tue Aug 7th, 2018 Location: Posts: 35 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Um, what's ridiculous about the Justin Roberts one? What else is there to say about a ring announcer? I can't tell if the Page one is supposed to be a joke or if they were just typing suggestions to each other and forgot to fix it before it aired. I don't think they really need captions, and I'd like to see them stop emphasizing the won-loss records too since everyone is a .500 wrestler. I don't recall ever seeing a graphic like that for any announcer before.. "Hey look, we have a ring announcer who has 26 years experience." It felt unnecessary. I don't have an issue with won-loss records being emphasized. It was a good idea, but it has been poorly executed through even steven booking as you mentioned. I think Kenny Omega has a record of 9-4, but he has been booked terribly, for the most part. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 08:01 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 334th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: I don’t see the point in talking about the records if everyone is going to bat .500 unless they just need more time to get to the point they are trying to get to for people to start breaking away. Such as so and so is 4 and 4 in singles but is 6-1 in tag matches and align them in a tag team or have someone go under .500 and then “perfect” a new move that propels them on a 15-0 run until some figured out the counter etc etc etc. I think it can be useful and interesting but could also be a nightmare to track especially if They pull out some dumb shit booking with an outside person getting pinned because the ref was partially blinded and thought so and so was in the match. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 08:42 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 335th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: I don’t see the point in talking about the records if everyone is going to bat .500 unless they just need more time to get to the point they are trying to get to for people to start breaking away. Such as so and so is 4 and 4 in singles but is 6-1 in tag matches and align them in a tag team or have someone go under .500 and then “perfect” a new move that propels them on a 15-0 run until some figured out the counter etc etc etc. I think it can be useful and interesting but could also be a nightmare to track especially if They pull out some dumb shit booking with an outside person getting pinned because the ref was partially blinded and thought so and so was in the match. The one thing I like is that in the past 2 weeks, now that AEW has some shows under their belt, JR and Schiavone has been saying things like "So-and-so is on a 4-game winning streak." I think that adds something as far as hot and cold streaks, but an overall won-loss records doesn't do anything for me now and will be absurd in 2 years once guys get to 40-38 or whatever. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 09:45 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 336th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I agree about the win-loss records being shown is bad. What's the story about Tony Khan giving a stunner? I saw the phony punches gif the other day. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 09:49 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 337th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I agree about the win-loss records being shown is bad. What's the story about Tony Khan giving a stunner? I saw the phony punches gif the other day. Okay I just saw the video of it. The female ref also gave Spears a stunner. It was after the show, but still. These people just can't help themselves. <A HREF="https://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/aew-news-tony-khan-reveals-why-he-gave-a-stone-cold-stunner-to-former-wwe-superstar" TARGET="_blank">https://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/aew-news-tony-khan-reveals-why-he-gave-a-stone-cold-stunner-to-former-wwe-superstarA> Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 23rd, 2019 09:59 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 338th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I agree about the win-loss records being shown is bad. What's the story about Tony Khan giving a stunner? I saw the phony punches gif the other day. Okay I just saw the video of it. The female ref also gave Spears a stunner. It was after the show, but still. These people just can't help themselves. <A HREF="https://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/aew-news-tony-khan-reveals-why-he-gave-a-stone-cold-stunner-to-former-wwe-superstar" TARGET="_blank">https://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/aew-news-tony-khan-reveals-why-he-gave-a-stone-cold-stunner-to-former-wwe-superstarA> My opinion? What happens off the air doesn’t count. Just like how house shows have a lot of crazy bullshit on them, when the cameras are off, you are 100% only there to entertain the paid ticket holders. I have no issue with this. And Shawn Spears “gets it”. Even if what he said was to save face, which I don’t believe, the guy understands it’s about doing your job with 100% effort. To entertain the crowd as a heel, you show ass every so often. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 12:05 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 339th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Critiquing something that happened off-air is ridiculous. WWE does shit like this too after the cameras stop rolling, or at least they used to when the talent was allowed to have fun. Read any autobiography of any WWE star from the last 30 years ever. There’s tons of goofier stories than this. The Undertaker was just talking about how Vince tried to force him to do a spinaroonie after Raw during the Austin interview. That’s a little goofier than this People are really stretching. God forbid anyone have fucking fun. Last edited on Tue Dec 24th, 2019 12:08 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 03:02 am PM Quote Reply 340th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: I don’t see the point in talking about the records if everyone is going to bat .500 unless they just need more time to get to the point they are trying to get to for people to start breaking away. Such as so and so is 4 and 4 in singles but is 6-1 in tag matches and align them in a tag team or have someone go under .500 and then “perfect” a new move that propels them on a 15-0 run until some figured out the counter etc etc etc. I think it can be useful and interesting but could also be a nightmare to track especially if They pull out some dumb shit booking with an outside person getting pinned because the ref was partially blinded and thought so and so was in the match. The one thing I like is that in the past 2 weeks, now that AEW has some shows under their belt, JR and Schiavone has been saying things like "So-and-so is on a 4-game winning streak." I think that adds something as far as hot and cold streaks, but an overall won-loss records doesn't do anything for me now and will be absurd in 2 years once guys get to 40-38 or whatever. The won-loss records will be reset on January 1st every year, making them even more corny imo unless they make it a contest for a prize that actually means something storyline wise. THAT could be very interesting to increase the Dynamite tv rating in the dog days of bad December ratings. A beej "2020 Mr. AEW Standings" contest could be money. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 03:18 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 341st Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="/users/16.html" TARGET="_blank">srossiA> wrote: Critiquing something that happened off-air is ridiculous. WWE does shit like this too after the cameras stop rolling, or at least they used to when the talent was allowed to have fun. Read any autobiography of any WWE star from the last 30 years ever. There’s tons of goofier stories than this. The Undertaker was just talking about how Vince tried to force him to do a spinaroonie after Raw during the Austin interview. That’s a little goofier than this People are really stretching. God forbid anyone have fucking fun. If it’s on video and making the rounds, it’s fair game. This is the internet. I love it when you get pissy. ❤️ ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 05:52 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 342nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <A HREF="/users/16.html" TARGET="_blank">srossiA> wrote: Critiquing something that happened off-air is ridiculous. WWE does shit like this too after the cameras stop rolling, or at least they used to when the talent was allowed to have fun. Read any autobiography of any WWE star from the last 30 years ever. There’s tons of goofier stories than this. The Undertaker was just talking about how Vince tried to force him to do a spinaroonie after Raw during the Austin interview. That’s a little goofier than this People are really stretching. God forbid anyone have fucking fun. If it’s on video and making the rounds, it’s fair game. This is the internet. I love it when you get pissy. ❤️ Yeah, it's a different world now, everything can be recorded and shown to millions in a matter of hours now. Do you think The Sheik, Lewin, Abdullah, King Curtis, Brody, etc had "fun" in the place where they made their living?That Tony Khan needs that suit ripped off him in the middle of that ring, given a good strapping across his back and then honey and chicken feathers dumped over him by Jim Cornette, Dennis Condrey and Bobby Eaton. THAT my friends is what I call "fucking fun". Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 02:50 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 343rd Post Kubrick Joined: Tue Aug 7th, 2018 Location: Posts: 35 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: I just seen that clip of the phony punches and another clip of Tony Khan giving someone a stunner. AEW should change their name to LOL. This shit isn’t gonna last. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 02:52 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 344th Post indikator Joined: Fri Jan 23rd, 2009 Location: Bratenwender City, Germany Posts: 2622 Status: Online Mana: Do I think that guys who always booked their friends wherever they went did it primarily to have fun and not to make a living? Yes. If you want to make a living you will work with people you dislike. And wrestling is riddled with instances where your personal connection was a lot more important than what you brought to the table. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 03:17 pm PM Quote Reply 345th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I'm gonna guess that the masked goons aren't workers, hence the awful punches. Better than shoot punching someone in the face, though. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 04:07 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 346th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I'm gonna guess that the masked goons aren't workers, hence the awful punches. Better than shoot punching someone in the face, though. The guy with the punches is Arik Cannon. A “worker”. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 05:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 347th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I'm gonna guess that the masked goons aren't workers, hence the awful punches. Better than shoot punching someone in the face, though. The guy with the punches is Arik Cannon. A “worker”. I thought it came out that was false, and that he was joking? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 05:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 348th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I'm gonna guess that the masked goons aren't workers, hence the awful punches. Better than shoot punching someone in the face, though. The guy with the punches is Arik Cannon. A “worker”. I thought it came out that was false, and that he was joking? Yes, he was joking but many newz sites ran with it. Arik Cannon has been around forever and knows how to throw punches. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 05:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 349th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I'm gonna guess that the masked goons aren't workers, hence the awful punches. Better than shoot punching someone in the face, though. The guy with the punches is Arik Cannon. A “worker”. I thought it came out that was false, and that he was joking? If it was a joke, that’s fucking stupid. Let’s just wait until we get 100% verification from Meltzer. I’m sure the great one knows. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 06:36 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 350th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I'm gonna guess that the masked goons aren't workers, hence the awful punches. Better than shoot punching someone in the face, though. The guy with the punches is Arik Cannon. A “worker”. I thought it came out that was false, and that he was joking? If it was a joke, that’s fucking stupid. Let’s just wait until we get 100% verification from Meltzer. I’m sure the great one knows. I doubt the name will mean anything to us. I'm sure they just put some students under the masks. WWE pays a few hundred bucks to established indy stars to play all the extra roles, but it wouldn't surprise me if AEW just gets warm bodies and doesn't pay them. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 07:00 pm PM Quote Reply 351st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Even a guy joking that he was under a mask in AEW gets shit from the disciples of acornette now? These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. I blame Trump. This is why we can't have nice things. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 07:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 352nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. This is very true, at least if you're talking about free TV. NXT has been killing it for a long time now, but thanks to AEW people don't even have to pay the $9.99 to watch it anymore. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 07:44 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 353rd Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Even a guy joking that he was under a mask in AEW gets shit from the disciples of acornette now? These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. I blame Trump. This is why we can't have nice things. Not sure who the disciples of Cornette are. I’m not one of them. Joking about being the guy who threw the most phony punches in the history of televised wrestling is in fact COMPLETELY FUCKING STUPID. It really doesn’t even matter who it was. The fact that it happened is ridiculous enough. And the fact that the AEW “wrestlers” made fun of it on their YouTube serious is even more ridiculous. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 07:47 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 354th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. This is very true, at least if you're talking about free TV. NXT has been killing it for a long time now, but thanks to AEW people don't even have to pay the $9.99 to watch it anymore. I was paying $9.99 to watch NXT and then I subscribed to sling for $29.99 to watch AEW. And thanks to the AEW people, I’m now back to just paying $9.99 to watch NXT. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 07:50 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 355th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. This is very true, at least if you're talking about free TV. NXT has been killing it for a long time now, but thanks to AEW people don't even have to pay the $9.99 to watch it anymore. I was paying $9.99 to watch NXT and then I subscribed to sling for $29.99 to watch AEW. And thanks to the AEW people, I’m now back to just paying $9.99 to watch NXT. Why would you be paying to watch NXT when it's on USA now? ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 07:51 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 356th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. This is very true, at least if you're talking about free TV. NXT has been killing it for a long time now, but thanks to AEW people don't even have to pay the $9.99 to watch it anymore. I was paying $9.99 to watch NXT and then I subscribed to sling for $29.99 to watch AEW. And thanks to the AEW people, I’m now back to just paying $9.99 to watch NXT. Why would you be paying to watch NXT when it's on USA now? Because USA isn’t a free channel. I canceled sling. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 08:45 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 357th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Even a guy joking that he was under a mask in AEW gets shit from the disciples of acornette now? These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. I blame Trump. This is why we can't have nice things. Not sure who the disciples of Cornette are. I’m not one of them. Joking about being the guy who threw the most phony punches in the history of televised wrestling is in fact COMPLETELY FUCKING STUPID. It really doesn’t even matter who it was. The fact that it happened is ridiculous enough. And the fact that the AEW “wrestlers” made fun of it on their YouTube serious is even more ridiculous. And now The Young Bucks have taken down their twitter accounts. They had no problem shitting all over the WWE, but now when people call them out for their shit, they close up shop. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 24th, 2019 09:07 pm PM Quote Reply 358th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Even a guy joking that he was under a mask in AEW gets shit from the disciples of acornette now? These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. I blame Trump. This is why we can't have nice things. Not sure who the disciples of Cornette are. I’m not one of them. Joking about being the guy who threw the most phony punches in the history of televised wrestling is in fact COMPLETELY FUCKING STUPID. It really doesn’t even matter who it was. The fact that it happened is ridiculous enough. And the fact that the AEW “wrestlers” made fun of it on their YouTube serious is even more ridiculous. And now The Young Bucks have taken down their twitter accounts. They had no problem shitting all over the WWE, but now when people call them out for their shit, they close up shop. Except they are still on Instagram and YouTube... This is becoming like politics. Why seek the truth when you can just shitpost hate? If you don't like AEW, stop watching and STFU. Last edited on Tue Dec 24th, 2019 09:07 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 25th, 2019 01:54 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 359th Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. This is very true, at least if you're talking about free TV. NXT has been killing it for a long time now, but thanks to AEW people don't even have to pay the $9.99 to watch it anymore. I was paying $9.99 to watch NXT and then I subscribed to sling for $29.99 to watch AEW. And thanks to the AEW people, I’m now back to just paying $9.99 to watch NXT. Why would you be paying to watch NXT when it's on USA now? Because USA isn’t a free channel. I canceled sling. Why don't you just download the Torrent an hour after the show airs? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 25th, 2019 01:54 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 360th Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: Is NXT ever going to start doing tapings on the road? Last edited on Wed Dec 25th, 2019 01:55 am by Principal_Raditch Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 25th, 2019 02:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 361st Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/156.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu156')">Principal_Raditcha> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. This is very true, at least if you're talking about free TV. NXT has been killing it for a long time now, but thanks to AEW people don't even have to pay the $9.99 to watch it anymore. I was paying $9.99 to watch NXT and then I subscribed to sling for $29.99 to watch AEW. And thanks to the AEW people, I’m now back to just paying $9.99 to watch NXT. Why would you be paying to watch NXT when it's on USA now? Because USA isn’t a free channel. I canceled sling. Why don't you just download the Torrent an hour after the show airs? I don’t want to download anything. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 25th, 2019 05:41 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 362nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Even a guy joking that he was under a mask in AEW gets shit from the disciples of acornette now? These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. I blame Trump. This is why we can't have nice things. Not sure who the disciples of Cornette are. I’m not one of them. Joking about being the guy who threw the most phony punches in the history of televised wrestling is in fact COMPLETELY FUCKING STUPID. It really doesn’t even matter who it was. The fact that it happened is ridiculous enough. And the fact that the AEW “wrestlers” made fun of it on their YouTube serious is even more ridiculous. And now The Young Bucks have taken down their twitter accounts. They had no problem shitting all over the WWE, but now when people call them out for their shit, they close up shop. Except they are still on Instagram and YouTube... This is becoming like politics. Why seek the truth when you can just shitpost hate? If you don't like AEW, stop watching and STFU. The truth is just as I posted it...They took down their twitter accounts you son of a bitch. FAKE NEWS, FAKE NEWS, KRISS POSTS FAKE NEWS. (AND FAKE, MADE UP RESULTS TO BTW) Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 25th, 2019 05:51 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 363rd Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Even a guy joking that he was under a mask in AEW gets shit from the disciples of acornette now? These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. I blame Trump. This is why we can't have nice things. Not sure who the disciples of Cornette are. I’m not one of them. Joking about being the guy who threw the most phony punches in the history of televised wrestling is in fact COMPLETELY FUCKING STUPID. It really doesn’t even matter who it was. The fact that it happened is ridiculous enough. And the fact that the AEW “wrestlers” made fun of it on their YouTube serious is even more ridiculous. And now The Young Bucks have taken down their twitter accounts. They had no problem shitting all over the WWE, but now when people call them out for their shit, they close up shop. Except they are still on Instagram and YouTube... This is becoming like politics. Why seek the truth when you can just shitpost hate? If you don't like AEW, stop watching and STFU. No, I won't just stop watching and STFU. The show has the potential to be a major player, you have some great established talents in the Rhodes, Moxley and Jericho and we end up seeing shit like the last show. When the promotion launched, a promise was made and it isn't being fulfilled. The crap we're seeing is not worthy of a national stage, it's becoming quite obvious that Omega and the Bucks are in waaaay over their heads and have no idea what they're doing. And now the money mark is giving stunners to workers after the shows. If you don't like criticism of AEW, then may I suggest you stop visiting the board and delete your account; emulate the Bucks, tuck tail and run. Last edited on Wed Dec 25th, 2019 06:08 am by BitterOldMan ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 25th, 2019 06:52 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 364th Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I'm gonna guess that the masked goons aren't workers, hence the awful punches. Better than shoot punching someone in the face, though. The guy with the punches is Arik Cannon. A “worker”. I thought it came out that was false, and that he was joking? If it was a joke, that’s fucking stupid. Let’s just wait until we get 100% verification from Meltzer. I’m sure the great one knows. That was Meltzer under the hood ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 25th, 2019 03:36 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 365th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="/users/448.html" TARGET="_blank">BitterOldManA> wrote: <A HREF="/users/124.html" TARGET="_blank">KrissA> wrote: <A HREF="/users/65.html" TARGET="_blank">carpetbeggarA> wrote: <A HREF="/users/150.html" TARGET="_blank">Vintage WrestlingA> wrote: <A HREF="/users/124.html" TARGET="_blank">KrissA> wrote: Even a guy joking that he was under a mask in AEW gets shit from the disciples of acornette now? These Wednesday night wars have given us two wrestling shows head and shoulders above what we had been getting fke the past 10 years, but the IWC are being tribal douchebags. I blame Trump. This is why we can't have nice things. Not sure who the disciples of Cornette are. I’m not one of them. Joking about being the guy who threw the most phony punches in the history of televised wrestling is in fact COMPLETELY FUCKING STUPID. It really doesn’t even matter who it was. The fact that it happened is ridiculous enough. And the fact that the AEW “wrestlers” made fun of it on their YouTube serious is even more ridiculous. And now The Young Bucks have taken down their twitter accounts. They had no problem shitting all over the WWE, but now when people call them out for their shit, they close up shop. Except they are still on Instagram and YouTube... This is becoming like politics. Why seek the truth when you can just shitpost hate? If you don't like AEW, stop watching and STFU. No, I won't just stop watching and STFU. The show has the potential to be a major player, you have some great established talents in the Rhodes, Moxley and Jericho and we end up seeing shit like the last show. When the promotion launched, a promise was made and it isn't being fulfilled. The crap we're seeing is not worthy of a national stage, it's becoming quite obvious that Omega and the Bucks are in waaaay over their heads and have no idea what they're doing. And now the money mark is giving stunners to workers after the shows. If you don't like criticism of AEW, then may I suggest you stop visiting the board and delete your account; emulate the Bucks, tuck tail and run. POST OF THE YEAR. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 25th, 2019 04:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 366th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Gotta agree Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 25th, 2019 07:07 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 367th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: I’m honestly thinking that the Bucks, Omega, and maybe even Cody are either already getting bored with the project, or had zero idea how much work it was going to be and are too lazy to follow through. Remember, Cody is the only one of that crew that has really worked his ass off 52 week a year...not putting down the others, but they haven’t even come close to working a WWE touring schedule. I’m starting to think that if somebody doesn’t come in to properly book things, and build some cohesive storylines, it’s not going to go well. And storylines don’t need to be like WWE soap opera bullshit - just the basics of two guys not liking each other and fighting for a few months. Then they move on to the next feud. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 25th, 2019 11:45 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 368th Post Infamous 必 勝 Joined: Mon Oct 25th, 2010 Location: Slums Of Shaolin Posts: 2829 Status: Offline Mana: But the Young Bucks' daddy said they're sweethearts. You guys are toxic Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 26th, 2019 01:05 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 369th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: I’m honestly thinking that the Bucks, Omega, and maybe even Cody are either already getting bored with the project, or had zero idea how much work it was going to be and are too lazy to follow through. Remember, Cody is the only one of that crew that has really worked his ass off 52 week a year...not putting down the others, but they haven’t even come close to working a WWE touring schedule. I’m starting to think that if somebody doesn’t come in to properly book things, and build some cohesive storylines, it’s not going to go well. And storylines don’t need to be like WWE soap opera bullshit - just the basics of two guys not liking each other and fighting for a few months. Then they move on to the next feud. Yeah the booking...they do need a booker, because I feel it doesn't work having this guy book this and that guy book that. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 26th, 2019 01:10 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 370th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/323.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu323')">Infamousa> wrote: But the Young Bucks' daddy said they're sweethearts. You guys are toxic And all I have to say to you...or ask I should say is, since it is Christmas, how about giving us here at S&W an all access login for a week or two at that all women BDSM website you run or help advertise that you have linked on your profile page here:<A HREF="http://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/users/323.html" TARGET="_blank">http://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/users/323.htmlA> Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 26th, 2019 05:54 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 371st Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: Here's a basic issue with the booking, in my opinion. Omega and the Bucks aren't over with the mainstream US wrestling audience and are trying to use them to get other people over. Jericho, Moxley, Cody and Dustin are the people who and should be used in those roles, and in Jericho's case they are trying to do just that by having him work with and elevate Jungle Boy (BTW is he Jungle Boy, Jungle Jack Perry or what?). Jericho vs JB should have ended the show, not the shit we saw. Elevate the kid along with Luchasaurus and you can make money with that duo (and at some point Saurus need to eat Marko Stunt). There is time enough and the talent in place to right the ship and turn AEW into a legitimate alternative to WWE but it's going to take some experienced hands taking over and basically doing things that are Wrestling 101 in terms of feuds and booking. edit: I totally overlooked the best young heel in working right now, MJF. They rushed his turn on Cody IMO, but he is another person who with a little bit of polish can be used to get other workers over. Last edited on Thu Dec 26th, 2019 06:01 am by BitterOldMan ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 26th, 2019 06:09 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 372nd Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/323.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu323')">Infamousa> wrote: But the Young Bucks' daddy said they're sweethearts. You guys are toxic And all I have to say to you...or ask I should say is, since it is Christmas, how about giving us here at S&W an all access login for a week or two at that all women BDSM website you run or help advertise that you have linked on your profile page here:<A HREF="http://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/users/323.html" TARGET="_blank">http://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/users/323.htmlA> +1 ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 26th, 2019 02:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 373rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: How many posters do we have on this site who run BDSM websites? There's that other guy too who hasn't been around for a while. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 01:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 374th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Per AEW’s Facebook page: New 2020 annual records will begin on #AEWDynamite this Wednesday, January 1. Career #AEW records will be cumulative, and the annual records will reset each calendar year. The annual records will be increasingly important in the rankings as the new calendar year continues. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 01:53 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 375th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: I hope AEW does next gen stats and have the announcers say things like “Jericho is 27 and 4 on Wednesday nights that fall 3 days after a rainy day in the state they are wrestling in when no rain has been forecasted in the next 7 days”. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 02:09 am PM Quote Reply 376th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Per AEW’s Facebook page: New 2020 annual records will begin on #AEWDynamite this Wednesday, January 1. Career #AEW records will be cumulative, and the annual records will reset each calendar year. The annual records will be increasingly important in the rankings as the new calendar year continues. I already posted this a few days ago. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 02:23 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 377th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Per AEW’s Facebook page: New 2020 annual records will begin on #AEWDynamite this Wednesday, January 1. Career #AEW records will be cumulative, and the annual records will reset each calendar year. The annual records will be increasingly important in the rankings as the new calendar year continues. I already posted this a few days ago. Well AEW just posted this 1 hour ago so apparently you gave them the idea. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 02:27 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 378th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Per AEW’s Facebook page: New 2020 annual records will begin on #AEWDynamite this Wednesday, January 1. Career #AEW records will be cumulative, and the annual records will reset each calendar year. The annual records will be increasingly important in the rankings as the new calendar year continues. I already posted this a few days ago. Well AEW just posted this 1 hour ago so apparently you gave them the idea. One of the “Elite” guys mentioned the reset months ago, so it was expected ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 02:29 am PM Quote Reply 379th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: I don’t see the point in talking about the records if everyone is going to bat .500 unless they just need more time to get to the point they are trying to get to for people to start breaking away. Such as so and so is 4 and 4 in singles but is 6-1 in tag matches and align them in a tag team or have someone go under .500 and then “perfect” a new move that propels them on a 15-0 run until some figured out the counter etc etc etc. I think it can be useful and interesting but could also be a nightmare to track especially if They pull out some dumb shit booking with an outside person getting pinned because the ref was partially blinded and thought so and so was in the match. The one thing I like is that in the past 2 weeks, now that AEW has some shows under their belt, JR and Schiavone has been saying things like "So-and-so is on a 4-game winning streak." I think that adds something as far as hot and cold streaks, but an overall won-loss records doesn't do anything for me now and will be absurd in 2 years once guys get to 40-38 or whatever. The won-loss records will be reset on January 1st every year, making them even more corny imo unless they make it a contest for a prize that actually means something storyline wise. THAT could be very interesting to increase the Dynamite tv rating in the dog days of bad December ratings. A beej "2020 Mr. AEW Standings" contest could be money. Well, I guess somebody has to give them some ideas since they literally have no booker. Last edited on Fri Dec 27th, 2019 02:30 am by Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 06:49 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 380th Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: Last time I recall seeing anything regarding won-loss records was when Mike "The Hippie" Boyette was brought into the UWF and went on a losing streak of epic proportion. Last edited on Fri Dec 27th, 2019 06:51 am by BitterOldMan ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 07:35 am PM Quote Reply 381st Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: Last time I recall seeing anything regarding won-loss records was when Mike "The Hippie" Boyette was brought into the UWF and went on a losing streak of epic proportion. I got the UWF Wrestling show at the time (the main show, not PPW) and I loved that angle. Didn't he finally beat Gary Young, or am I mixing up my angles? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 02:57 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 382nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: Last time I recall seeing anything regarding won-loss records was when Mike "The Hippie" Boyette was brought into the UWF and went on a losing streak of epic proportion. Well there was that whole Goldberg streak. I think it was 173-0, a completely kayfabed number. I'm not sure what the real number was, even discounting his untelevised losses before making his TV debut, but I know they kept adding a lot of wins off TV when WCW rarely did house shows. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 03:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 383rd Post Kubrick Joined: Tue Aug 7th, 2018 Location: Posts: 35 Status: Offline Mana: MVP had a losing streak in 2009 which lasted around 5 months. Curt Hawkins supposedly had a losing streak of 269 matches from 2017-2019. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 06:09 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 384th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/758.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu758')">Kubricka> wrote: MVP had a losing streak in 2009 which lasted around 5 months. Curt Hawkins supposedly had a losing streak of 269 matches from 2017-2019. I believe the Hawkins one was the legit number. Hawkins himself started tracking it and joking about it on Twitter long before it became an angle. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 06:57 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 385th Post DJP Joined: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 Location: Posts: 1100 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: Last time I recall seeing anything regarding won-loss records was when Mike "The Hippie" Boyette was brought into the UWF and went on a losing streak of epic proportion. Well there was that whole Goldberg streak. I think it was 173-0, a completely kayfabed number. I'm not sure what the real number was, even discounting his untelevised losses before making his TV debut, but I know they kept adding a lot of wins off TV when WCW rarely did house shows. WCW did a similar, stupider angle with Sid when he was feuding with Goldberg. IIRC he'd run in on matches he wasn't even in, powerbomb someone, and it would supposedly count as part of his streak of victories. ____________________ I live alone. I train alone. I'll win the title alone. -Clubber Lang Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 07:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 386th Post kargol Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Brum, United Kingdom Posts: 5565 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/248.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu248')">DJPa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: Last time I recall seeing anything regarding won-loss records was when Mike "The Hippie" Boyette was brought into the UWF and went on a losing streak of epic proportion. Well there was that whole Goldberg streak. I think it was 173-0, a completely kayfabed number. I'm not sure what the real number was, even discounting his untelevised losses before making his TV debut, but I know they kept adding a lot of wins off TV when WCW rarely did house shows. WCW did a similar, stupider angle with Sid when he was feuding with Goldberg. IIRC he'd run in on matches he wasn't even in, powerbomb someone, and it would supposedly count as part of his streak of victories. It was typical of WCW to take something the fans had caught onto and ruined it. They did the same with Goldberg by just adding fake matches to the total, when the real number was impressive enough. I think The Streak was basically an internet thing - someone online pointed out Goldberg had won his first 20 matches or so and people then started counting. WCW found out and fecked it up. ____________________ superfunkymean Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 07:55 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 387th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/46.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu46')">kargola> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/248.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu248')">DJPa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: Last time I recall seeing anything regarding won-loss records was when Mike "The Hippie" Boyette was brought into the UWF and went on a losing streak of epic proportion. Well there was that whole Goldberg streak. I think it was 173-0, a completely kayfabed number. I'm not sure what the real number was, even discounting his untelevised losses before making his TV debut, but I know they kept adding a lot of wins off TV when WCW rarely did house shows. WCW did a similar, stupider angle with Sid when he was feuding with Goldberg. IIRC he'd run in on matches he wasn't even in, powerbomb someone, and it would supposedly count as part of his streak of victories. It was typical of WCW to take something the fans had caught onto and ruined it. They did the same with Goldberg by just adding fake matches to the total, when the real number was impressive enough. I think The Streak was basically an internet thing - someone online pointed out Goldberg had won his first 20 matches or so and people then started counting. WCW found out and fecked it up. Nah, after his very first TV win he said “That’s one”. They were planning the streak from the beginning. They always could’ve killed it early if he didn’t get over. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 28th, 2019 11:23 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 388th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tanahashi requested an AEW title shot if he can defeat Jericho at Wrestle Kingdom, and today Jericho accepted. Conventional wisdom says that Jericho likely needs to win and the title shot will never happen, but we’ll see if AEW and NJPW can come to terms on a working agreement. So far, it’s mostly Jericho and Moxley just making their own deals. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 30th, 2019 08:17 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 389th Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: AEW sent us the following press release: Cody Hires Wrestling Legend Arn Anderson as Personal Advisor and Head Coach for 2020 Season (December 30, 2019) –Since AEW exploded onto the wrestling scene just one year ago, it has consistently dazzled fans with its groundbreaking shows, world-class roster, inclusive attitude and impactful announcements. To wrap AEW’s inaugural year, Cody today announced that legendary wrestler Arn Anderson will be Cody’s personal advisor and head coach for the 2020 season, starting with the New Year’s Day DYNAMITE show in Jacksonville, Fla. A member of the world-renowned Four Horsemen and Dangerous Alliance, Anderson holds multiple tag team titles and was a longtime road agent for some of wrestling’s biggest stars. This past August, Anderson made a surprise appearance at ALL OUT when he nailed Cody’s opponent, Shawn Spears, with his signature spinebuster. Cody ultimately defeated Spears, who is coached by Anderson’s Four Horsemen teammate Tully Blanchard. Anderson will be ringside with Cody as he begins the 2020 season with a rematch against Darby Allin on Wednesday, Jan. 1, at Daily’s Place in Jacksonville. Back in June, Cody and Allin fought to a time-limit draw at FYTER FEST. Cody granted Allin a rematch with the stipulation that Allin team up with him against The Butcher and The Blade. Cody and Allin emerged victorious, and are now on opposite sides of the ring in this highly anticipated match-up. “2019 was the most successful year I’ve had in pro-wrestling,” said Cody, EVP of AEW. “Beyond the superfluous financial, it’s been incredibly rewarding on a spiritual level to be able to engage so many fans with a like-minded place in their hearts for the sport. “That said, one of my greatest fears came true as I lost the opportunity to wrestle for the World Championship again. But, on the other side of that fear is freedom to chase every other accolade outside of that title. I still want to collect all the accolades I can and dominate the singles division. That’s why I’m bringing in Arn Anderson as my personal advisor and head coach. He has been in business with my family for over three decades. Having been a wrestler throughout so many different generations of talent, he understands what ingredients it takes to look beyond the horizon and produce the best content and results.” ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 30th, 2019 08:49 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 390th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: I'm always happy to see Double A on TV, and I think that his role for the past 20 years should have been on camera in WWE as a manager/mouthpiece for talent that needed to get over. Case in point - I think that he could've been assigned to Jack Swagger and gotten him over as a serious contender for the belt, instead of Dutch Mantel getting him over with the whole We The People gimmick that just had midcard stink all over it. But with that said, I think that pairing Arn with Cody is wasting a talent, because Cody has the ability to speak. But what I'm hoping is that they are starting to see that they just can't throw the product on TV every week, there has to be some thought with the booking, and part of that is having people explain what's going on and why they are feuding with others. Arn is a perfect guy to get that over. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 3rd, 2020 04:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 391st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Has anyone heard what the ratings were Wednesday yet? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 3rd, 2020 04:35 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 392nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Has anyone heard what the ratings were Wednesday yet? Haven't heard yet but it was a weird day that probably won't mean anything. It was New Year's and NXT was just running an awards show opposite it. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 3rd, 2020 05:21 pm PM Quote Reply 393rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Has anyone heard what the ratings were Wednesday yet? From Meltzer: "After a week off for Christmas, AEW Dynamite returned on Wednesday night with its best ratings numbers since October 16. The show averaged 967,000 viewers, up 42 percent from the previous episode that aired on December 18.In the important 18-49 demo, AEW finished 13th for the night on cable with a 0.36 rating, up 44 percent from the previous episode and also the best number Dynamite has done in that category since October 16. NXT, which aired a year in review show that featured the announcement of NXT's year-end awards and the teams for the 2020 Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic, had its lowest number on the USA Network, averaging 548,000 viewers. That was down 34 percent from last week. NXT did a 0.15 rating in the 18-49 demo, dropping to 66th for the night on cable in that category. That number was down 32 percent from the Christmas night episode of NXT and was also the lowest number the show has done since its USA Network debut. Detailed demo ratings are not available at this time for NXT since it finished outside the top 50. For AEW, their strongest category was men 18-49, where the show averaged a 0.52 rating. Both shows faced much stronger than usual sports competition in the form of college football's Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl, along with the studio shows that aired before and after the games. The Rose Bowl did almost 15.7 million viewers, with the last 45 minutes of that game airing opposite NXT and AEW. The post-game show and Sugar Bowl pre-game show dropped to 13 million. The Sugar Bowl averaged almost 10 million viewers, with the first hour going against the wrestling shows." Last edited on Fri Jan 3rd, 2020 05:22 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 3rd, 2020 07:08 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 394th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: It seems to me that there are a lot of people that have at least some interest in AEW. Obviously some like NXT better, but will watch AEW when NXT isn't on, or when NXT just has recap, or awards episode. AEW obviously is not delivering what the people who do not turn in every week want. There is an audience for them, but they cannot hold them. NXT and AEW have to find a way to keep the people who had interest in their product (as evidenced by the amount of people who watched their shows the first couple of weeks) to watch every week. Their core audience is just people flipping back and forth between the two. They need the casuals to become interested full time. As does RAW and SD. Fuck I don't know what I'm saying lol, I sound like Meltzer when he goes off into the weeds and rambles on and on. All in all, wrestling just does not have the interest it used to have. I know lots of people like to say that this is the best time to be a fan(hint, hint Mr. Farmer), etc, etc, but really is it? Just because we have access to practically every wrestling organization around the world nowadays doesn't mean shit if they don't put out a product that draws more than the hardcore fans in. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 3rd, 2020 07:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 395th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Oh, and btw, thanks for posting Herb's ratings analysis Kriss. I guess I missed seeing that when I was over on the Observer site. I think he did a WOR earlier today, so I am going to listen to what he has to say about the ratings. Although he is in Tokyo right now so I imagine it will be heavy on the puroresu talk. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 3rd, 2020 08:48 pm PM Quote Reply 396th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Damn good AEW rating this week considering the circumstances. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jan 4th, 2020 03:07 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 397th Post Infamous 必 勝 Joined: Mon Oct 25th, 2010 Location: Slums Of Shaolin Posts: 2829 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: It seems to me that there are a lot of people that have at least some interest in AEW. Obviously some like NXT better, but will watch AEW when NXT isn't on, or when NXT just has recap, or awards episode. AEW obviously is not delivering what the people who do not turn in every week want. There is an audience for them, but they cannot hold them. NXT and AEW have to find a way to keep the people who had interest in their product (as evidenced by the amount of people who watched their shows the first couple of weeks) to watch every week. Their core audience is just people flipping back and forth between the two. They need the casuals to become interested full time. As does RAW and SD. Fuck I don't know what I'm saying lol, I sound like Meltzer when he goes off into the weeds and rambles on and on. All in all, wrestling just does not have the interest it used to have. I know lots of people like to say that this is the best time to be a fan(hint, hint Mr. Farmer), etc, etc, but really is it? Just because we have access to practically every wrestling organization around the world nowadays doesn't mean shit if they don't put out a product that draws more than the hardcore fans in. Think back to WWF expansion era during the 80's & Monday Night Wars/Attitude Era. There was an industry wide buzz that we could sense as fans. Where is that today ? Those periods created new fans. Today's wrestling doesn't. And there is nothing on the horizon. No Hulkamania, no Austin 3:16, no NWO, no Rock, nothing besides more content. Wrestling as time filler. 7 hour WrestleMania, 3 hour RAW/SD, 2 hour Dynamite/NXT, 24/7 Network, etc. etc. etc. Hey look! Another wrestling match! How original! I can't wait! Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jan 4th, 2020 08:16 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 398th Post indikator Joined: Fri Jan 23rd, 2009 Location: Bratenwender City, Germany Posts: 2622 Status: Online Mana: I am more and more thinking that the older B-shows and C-shows are really underrated. Just think about how many people watched Worldwide, Pro or Saturday Night after Nitro started. A shitload of people watched those shows at various times. Same with all the WWF/WWE shows like Metal. But that is almost forgotten, because people just focus on the main eventers. So fuck your childhood idol, fuck the household names and realize that for whatever stupid reason enough people have watched and will watch some random wrestling mid card act for all eternity. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 01:41 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 399th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Variety reported on the Wednesday Night Wars, and included a bit about DVR views that is getting a lot of attention. "Live+7" is total viewership of anyone who watched within 7 days of the live airing, and NXT is really killing it there. Their younger audience just does not watch anything live, so that number pushes AEW up by 32% in the18-49 demo, much more than that number helps NXT. "AEW has the advantage in delayed viewing as well. In Live+7 through Dec. 18, “Dynamite” is averaging 1.2 million viewers per week, with 654,000 of those in 18-49. That represents an approximate viewership lift of 32% per week. NXT, meanwhile, is averaging 972,000 viewers in Live+7 with 428,000 in 18-49, a viewership lift of approximately 20%." There's also a Live+Same Day number, which does not help AEW at all but pushes shows like Raw and Smackdown higher, showing that WWE's older demo (even older than NXT's) want to see these shows quickly whereas AEW fans don't think twice about waiting up to a week to watch. "Live" means nothing to them and doesn't benefit AEW like it does WWE. Which begs the question, why be live at all since it costs a ton more to produce one live show than maybe tape 2 shows at once and their fanbase doesn't care at all? Last edited on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 01:47 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 07:35 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 400th Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: To paraphrase Corny, all AEW is, is two dogs f***ing on the side of the road. Without major changes in creative and production the ratings will drop over time until the point is reached where either TNT cuts them loose, or the money mark either forces a change or just stops paying. ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill |
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Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 07:42 am PM Quote Reply 401st Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: I thought tonight's show had a few misses, especially the Memphis tribute stuff (other than Dave Brown), but overall I liked tonight's episode. Hot crowd and the final segment with Mox and The Inner Circle was balls out. Anything's better than RAW. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 03:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 402nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: To paraphrase Corny, all AEW is, is two dogs f***ing on the side of the road. Without major changes in creative and production the ratings will drop over time until the point is reached where either TNT cuts them loose, or the money mark either forces a change or just stops paying. Or maybe you and Cornette just aren't the demo for this show. I'm sure TNT is absolutely thrilled right now and Tony Khan is having the time of his life. Nothing is changing anytime soon. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 04:45 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 403rd Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: To paraphrase Corny, all AEW is, is two dogs f***ing on the side of the road. Without major changes in creative and production the ratings will drop over time until the point is reached where either TNT cuts them loose, or the money mark either forces a change or just stops paying. Or maybe you and Cornette just aren't the demo for this show. I'm sure TNT is absolutely thrilled right now and Tony Khan is having the time of his life. Nothing is changing anytime soon. So Meltzer is spinning the ratings by focusing on the 18-49 demo? LOL. Funny since the guy spinning this shit is past the “key demo”. So are several of the top guys. Meltzer is so high on this shit because his play wrestler buddies worship him. AEW is all inclusive. Everyone gets to play. Doesn’t matter if you are missing legs, transsexual, 5 ft tall, 90 lb Joshi wrestler, or even a dentist, AEW has a spot for you. Focusing on one group goes completely against the AEW narrative. Ratings are ratings. Doesn’t matter if the person watching is 18 or 100. Picking apart age groups to look for a win in a non existent wrestling war is beyond ridiculous. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 05:10 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 404th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: AEW has lost me completely. I now look for the Jericho stuff, the Moxley stuff, and not much more. I don't think it's an implication of the product as much as it is the fact that I just have no interest in seeing a guy fly 20 feet over the top rope onto three guys, and eight seconds later those three guys come off the top rope with back somersault 520 reverse corkscrew elbow moonsault fistdrops. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 05:24 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 405th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: To paraphrase Corny, all AEW is, is two dogs f***ing on the side of the road. Without major changes in creative and production the ratings will drop over time until the point is reached where either TNT cuts them loose, or the money mark either forces a change or just stops paying. Or maybe you and Cornette just aren't the demo for this show. I'm sure TNT is absolutely thrilled right now and Tony Khan is having the time of his life. Nothing is changing anytime soon. So Meltzer is spinning the ratings by focusing on the 18-49 demo? LOL. Funny since the guy spinning this shit is past the “key demo”. So are several of the top guys. Meltzer is so high on this shit because his play wrestler buddies worship him. AEW is all inclusive. Everyone gets to play. Doesn’t matter if you are missing legs, transsexual, 5 ft tall, 90 lb Joshi wrestler, or even a dentist, AEW has a spot for you. Focusing on one group goes completely against the AEW narrative. Ratings are ratings. Doesn’t matter if the person watching is 18 or 100. Picking apart age groups to look for a win in a non existent wrestling war is beyond ridiculous. I'm no Meltzer fan, but to say ratings are ratings is absurd. Demos are incredibly important to advertisers. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 05:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 406th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: To paraphrase Corny, all AEW is, is two dogs f***ing on the side of the road. Without major changes in creative and production the ratings will drop over time until the point is reached where either TNT cuts them loose, or the money mark either forces a change or just stops paying. Or maybe you and Cornette just aren't the demo for this show. I'm sure TNT is absolutely thrilled right now and Tony Khan is having the time of his life. Nothing is changing anytime soon. So Meltzer is spinning the ratings by focusing on the 18-49 demo? LOL. Funny since the guy spinning this shit is past the “key demo”. So are several of the top guys. Meltzer is so high on this shit because his play wrestler buddies worship him. AEW is all inclusive. Everyone gets to play. Doesn’t matter if you are missing legs, transsexual, 5 ft tall, 90 lb Joshi wrestler, or even a dentist, AEW has a spot for you. Focusing on one group goes completely against the AEW narrative. Ratings are ratings. Doesn’t matter if the person watching is 18 or 100. Picking apart age groups to look for a win in a non existent wrestling war is beyond ridiculous. I'm no Meltzer fan, but to say ratings are ratings is absurd. Demos are incredibly important to advertisers. So the actual amount of people watching a wrestling show in a “wrestling war” now doesn’t matter even though before it really mattered. Got it. ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 05:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 407th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: To paraphrase Corny, all AEW is, is two dogs f***ing on the side of the road. Without major changes in creative and production the ratings will drop over time until the point is reached where either TNT cuts them loose, or the money mark either forces a change or just stops paying. Or maybe you and Cornette just aren't the demo for this show. I'm sure TNT is absolutely thrilled right now and Tony Khan is having the time of his life. Nothing is changing anytime soon. So Meltzer is spinning the ratings by focusing on the 18-49 demo? LOL. Funny since the guy spinning this shit is past the “key demo”. So are several of the top guys. Meltzer is so high on this shit because his play wrestler buddies worship him. AEW is all inclusive. Everyone gets to play. Doesn’t matter if you are missing legs, transsexual, 5 ft tall, 90 lb Joshi wrestler, or even a dentist, AEW has a spot for you. Focusing on one group goes completely against the AEW narrative. Ratings are ratings. Doesn’t matter if the person watching is 18 or 100. Picking apart age groups to look for a win in a non existent wrestling war is beyond ridiculous. I'm no Meltzer fan, but to say ratings are ratings is absurd. Demos are incredibly important to advertisers. So the actual amount of people watching a wrestling show in a “wrestling war” now doesn’t matter even though before it really mattered. Got it. It's actually a lot more complicated than before with almost no one watching TV in a traditional way anymore, but demos have always been big for advertisers. The demo difference between WWE and WCW just wasn't as great though, and in general advertisers had no respect for either. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 05:44 pm PM Quote Reply 408th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Rossi is correct. Wrestling was never able to full cash in on the late 90s viewing highs because there was a perception that wrestling fans were stupid and poor, so they couldn't get the same advertising dollars that a drama or comedy with the same viewer numbers would get. That had everything to do with demographics. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 08:26 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 409th Post Vintage Wrestling Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1105 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Rossi is correct. Wrestling was never able to full cash in on the late 90s viewing highs because there was a perception that wrestling fans were stupid and poor, so they couldn't get the same advertising dollars that a drama or comedy with the same viewer numbers would get. That had everything to do with demographics. What are the advertising dollar differences between AEW and NXT? Who’s winning there? ____________________ HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS HUSS Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 11:47 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 410th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Rossi is correct. Wrestling was never able to full cash in on the late 90s viewing highs because there was a perception that wrestling fans were stupid and poor, so they couldn't get the same advertising dollars that a drama or comedy with the same viewer numbers would get. That had everything to do with demographics. Bischoff just talked about this on his podcast a few weeks ago. Said even when they (WCW/WWE Monday night wars) were pulling in massive ratings they were stuck in a box on getting advertisers because of the perception of what wrestling was. He said about AEW that they need to build on what they'e doing especially in those key demographics because a year from now they're going to need REALLY strong ratings there to get any advertising..basically they have to work twice as hard as a typical television program.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jan 12th, 2020 02:51 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 411th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tony Khan has decided to keep all non-AEW titles off of TV. Moxley’s IWGP U.S. title win was not mentioned and he didn’t appear with the belt last week. Omega once defended his AAA Mega title on Dark but will no longer bring the belt to AEW. Khan feels that it’s confusing to fans to have too many titles, especially ones that don’t belong to the company. Both a Moxley and Jericho wrestling in Japan last weekend was mentioned, but without specifics. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jan 12th, 2020 03:07 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 412th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/150.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu150')">Vintage Wrestlinga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Rossi is correct. Wrestling was never able to full cash in on the late 90s viewing highs because there was a perception that wrestling fans were stupid and poor, so they couldn't get the same advertising dollars that a drama or comedy with the same viewer numbers would get. That had everything to do with demographics. What are the advertising dollar differences between AEW and NXT? Who’s winning there? Great question, Vintage. I will try to get something for you. I do know that NXT doesn’t get as good of a rate as RAW, meaning, commercials are quite a bit cheaper. I can say this without question: Before RAW went PG, nobody major would advertise on it. USA was getting ratings out of its ass, and making more money on advertising for reruns of it or movies. It was like five cents on the dollar. Pepsi, Subaru, Hershey, JCPenney, Wendy’s, and Ashley Home Furniture (off the top of my head) all had very strict guidelines: Primetime, no WWE. If any of their ads ran during the program, they not only didn’t pay, their agency contracts were terminated and they could move on to a new ad firm. After going PG and I’m betting that WWE spent a lot of time and money behind the scenes to prove themselves, it’s relaxed quite a bit. But RAW still only gets about 40-50% of the advertising dollar as reruns of tv shows and movies get on Primetime USA. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jan 12th, 2020 05:20 am PM Quote Reply 413th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tony Khan has decided to keep all non-AEW titles off of TV. Moxley’s IWGP U.S. title win was not mentioned and he didn’t appear with the belt last week. Omega once defended his AAA Mega title on Dark but will no longer bring the belt to AEW. Khan feels that it’s confusing to fans to have too many titles, especially ones that don’t belong to the company. Both a Moxley and Jericho wrestling in Japan last weekend was mentioned, but without specifics. I disagree with Tony's decision to keep non-AEW belts off TV. The audience that AEW is going after are wrestling fans, not sports entertainment minions. Nobody is going to be confused unless they're mentally retarded. This is something Vince and Stephanie would do. I thought Tony was hipper than that. It's not like NJPW or AAA is your direct competition. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jan 12th, 2020 04:55 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 414th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tony Khan has decided to keep all non-AEW titles off of TV. Moxley’s IWGP U.S. title win was not mentioned and he didn’t appear with the belt last week. Omega once defended his AAA Mega title on Dark but will no longer bring the belt to AEW. Khan feels that it’s confusing to fans to have too many titles, especially ones that don’t belong to the company. Both a Moxley and Jericho wrestling in Japan last weekend was mentioned, but without specifics. I disagree with Tony's decision to keep non-AEW belts off TV. The audience that AEW is going after are wrestling fans, not sports entertainment minions. Nobody is going to be confused unless they're mentally retarded. This is something Vince and Stephanie would do. I thought Tony was hipper than that. It's not like NJPW or AAA is your direct competition. I agree with him. They have to have focus and appeal to a wider audience than just the super smarts. And they’re not pretending other companies don’t exist, they just don’t want to muddle their own title scene by showing 30 belts that they don’t control. Jericho and Moxley traveling to Japan was acknowledged and even mentioned as part of the angle (“They were in Japan alone together this weekend so maybe they made an agreement”) so they’re not insulting the intelligence of the fans who obviously know Wrestle Kingdom is a big deal. They just don’t want more casual fans to wonder why everyone in the company has a belt and how it relates to AEW. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 02:07 am PM Quote Reply 415th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tony Khan has decided to keep all non-AEW titles off of TV. Moxley’s IWGP U.S. title win was not mentioned and he didn’t appear with the belt last week. Omega once defended his AAA Mega title on Dark but will no longer bring the belt to AEW. Khan feels that it’s confusing to fans to have too many titles, especially ones that don’t belong to the company. Both a Moxley and Jericho wrestling in Japan last weekend was mentioned, but without specifics. I disagree with Tony's decision to keep non-AEW belts off TV. The audience that AEW is going after are wrestling fans, not sports entertainment minions. Nobody is going to be confused unless they're mentally retarded. This is something Vince and Stephanie would do. I thought Tony was hipper than that. It's not like NJPW or AAA is your direct competition. I agree with him. They have to have focus and appeal to a wider audience than just the super smarts. And they’re not pretending other companies don’t exist, they just don’t want to muddle their own title scene by showing 30 belts that they don’t control. Jericho and Moxley traveling to Japan was acknowledged and even mentioned as part of the angle (“They were in Japan alone together this weekend so maybe they made an agreement”) so they’re not insulting the intelligence of the fans who obviously know Wrestle Kingdom is a big deal. They just don’t want more casual fans to wonder why everyone in the company has a belt and how it relates to AEW. I agree with you, they shouldn't have a bunch of meaningless belts on their tv. I specifically was talking about NJPW and AAA belts. Especially if AEW has a working relationship with them and obviously if AEW talent currently hold the titles. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 02:08 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 416th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tony Khan has decided to keep all non-AEW titles off of TV. Moxley’s IWGP U.S. title win was not mentioned and he didn’t appear with the belt last week. Omega once defended his AAA Mega title on Dark but will no longer bring the belt to AEW. Khan feels that it’s confusing to fans to have too many titles, especially ones that don’t belong to the company. Both a Moxley and Jericho wrestling in Japan last weekend was mentioned, but without specifics. I disagree with Tony's decision to keep non-AEW belts off TV. The audience that AEW is going after are wrestling fans, not sports entertainment minions. Nobody is going to be confused unless they're mentally retarded. This is something Vince and Stephanie would do. I thought Tony was hipper than that. It's not like NJPW or AAA is your direct competition. I agree with him. They have to have focus and appeal to a wider audience than just the super smarts. And they’re not pretending other companies don’t exist, they just don’t want to muddle their own title scene by showing 30 belts that they don’t control. Jericho and Moxley traveling to Japan was acknowledged and even mentioned as part of the angle (“They were in Japan alone together this weekend so maybe they made an agreement”) so they’re not insulting the intelligence of the fans who obviously know Wrestle Kingdom is a big deal. They just don’t want more casual fans to wonder why everyone in the company has a belt and how it relates to AEW. I agree with you, they shouldn't have a bunch of meaningless belts on their tv. I specifically was talking about NJPW and AAA belts. Especially if AEW has a working relationship with them and obviously if AEW talent currently hold the titles. They don’t have a working relationship with NJPW. It’s quite icy actually. Jericho and Moxley made their own deals. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 03:49 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 417th Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tony Khan has decided to keep all non-AEW titles off of TV. Moxley’s IWGP U.S. title win was not mentioned and he didn’t appear with the belt last week. Omega once defended his AAA Mega title on Dark but will no longer bring the belt to AEW. Khan feels that it’s confusing to fans to have too many titles, especially ones that don’t belong to the company. Both a Moxley and Jericho wrestling in Japan last weekend was mentioned, but without specifics. I disagree with Tony's decision to keep non-AEW belts off TV. The audience that AEW is going after are wrestling fans, not sports entertainment minions. Nobody is going to be confused unless they're mentally retarded. This is something Vince and Stephanie would do. I thought Tony was hipper than that. It's not like NJPW or AAA is your direct competition. AEW is going after wrestling fans, not fans of "sports entertainment"? Really?? You've got a guy who keeps his hands in his pockets and pretends to kick people, an "alien" who doesn't speak, guys who look like Uncle Fester crawling from under the ring and and anime character as a champion. And those are just a few of the examples I could cite. Who the f**k are you kidding? ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 04:26 am PM Quote Reply 418th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tony Khan has decided to keep all non-AEW titles off of TV. Moxley’s IWGP U.S. title win was not mentioned and he didn’t appear with the belt last week. Omega once defended his AAA Mega title on Dark but will no longer bring the belt to AEW. Khan feels that it’s confusing to fans to have too many titles, especially ones that don’t belong to the company. Both a Moxley and Jericho wrestling in Japan last weekend was mentioned, but without specifics. I disagree with Tony's decision to keep non-AEW belts off TV. The audience that AEW is going after are wrestling fans, not sports entertainment minions. Nobody is going to be confused unless they're mentally retarded. This is something Vince and Stephanie would do. I thought Tony was hipper than that. It's not like NJPW or AAA is your direct competition. AEW is going after wrestling fans, not fans of "sports entertainment"? Really?? You've got a guy who keeps his hands in his pockets and pretends to kick people, an "alien" who doesn't speak, guys who look like Uncle Fester crawling from under the ring and and anime character as a champion. And those are just a few of the examples I could cite. Who the f**k are you kidding? You're starting to come across as a bitter old man. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 07:36 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 419th Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tony Khan has decided to keep all non-AEW titles off of TV. Moxley’s IWGP U.S. title win was not mentioned and he didn’t appear with the belt last week. Omega once defended his AAA Mega title on Dark but will no longer bring the belt to AEW. Khan feels that it’s confusing to fans to have too many titles, especially ones that don’t belong to the company. Both a Moxley and Jericho wrestling in Japan last weekend was mentioned, but without specifics. I disagree with Tony's decision to keep non-AEW belts off TV. The audience that AEW is going after are wrestling fans, not sports entertainment minions. Nobody is going to be confused unless they're mentally retarded. This is something Vince and Stephanie would do. I thought Tony was hipper than that. It's not like NJPW or AAA is your direct competition. AEW is going after wrestling fans, not fans of "sports entertainment"? Really?? You've got a guy who keeps his hands in his pockets and pretends to kick people, an "alien" who doesn't speak, guys who look like Uncle Fester crawling from under the ring and and anime character as a champion. And those are just a few of the examples I could cite. Who the f**k are you kidding? You're starting to come across as a bitter old man. Just pointing out the hypocrisy in your statement; if that makes me bitter then c'est la vie. ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 07:46 am PM Quote Reply 420th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: It's hypocritical. Everything, often including the main event in WWE is junior H.S. dick jokes. AEW only does comedy in the mid card for the most part and it's usually funny. WWE comedy is everywhere on the show and it's booked to be cheesy on purpose and sucks. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 08:32 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 421st Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: It's hypocritical. Everything, often including the main event in WWE is junior H.S. dick jokes. AEW only does comedy in the mid card for the most part and it's usually funny. WWE comedy is everywhere on the show and it's booked to be cheesy on purpose and sucks. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that The Dark Order were mid-card and not being pushed as a top heel faction. Must be because I'm old and bitter. ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 02:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 422nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: It's hypocritical. Everything, often including the main event in WWE is junior H.S. dick jokes. AEW only does comedy in the mid card for the most part and it's usually funny. WWE comedy is everywhere on the show and it's booked to be cheesy on purpose and sucks. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that The Dark Order were mid-card and not being pushed as a top heel faction. Must be because I'm old and bitter. Haha...you are right B.O.M. I main problem is the booking and how a lot of storylines don't make sense. Too many chiefs have the pencil I think. Did you listen to the latest episode of the Cornette Experience podcast? Jim is so much better at articulating the problems with AEW (and their good points also). More often than not I find myself agreeing with him on the company. Brian Last, his co-host makes good points also. He is so right about their women's division, it is such a mess.). I also think Vince Russo and Disco Inferno make good points about AEW. Say what you want about Russo, but I find some of his content he puts out on his "Brand" podacast network really good. I actually look forward watching every week his new episodes of "Castrating The Marks" and "Lions, Tigers, Bears and Disco" podcasts. "Master Shoot Theater", which Russo hosts with Stevie Richards and Bin Hamin sometimes is good also. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 03:22 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 423rd Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: I listen to Cornette's podcast regularly, and at the risk of sounding like a fanboy I think he is spot on with most of his critique of AEW. In particular, the way the women are being booked and having a 98 lb anime character as champ. I'm not just taking his word on it but someone else give me a better reason why Riho is the women's champ other than the booker having an anime fetish. ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 10:26 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 424th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW has signed former Impact World champion Brain Cage, who the Young Bucks are very familiar with from the southern California indy scene. Cage was supposed to wrap up his Impact dates at the Hard to Kill PPV and possibly the TV tapings that followed but wound up getting a shoulder injury, so he has already wrestled his last Impact match. His scheduled match at the PPV against Rob Van Dam turned into an injury angle where RVD destroyed him, and that was likely his swan song. Cage is expected out of action for 5 months, so you likely won't see him pop up in AEW anytime soon either. Cage won the Impact World title from John Morrison on April 28 but suffered a serious back injury in that match, marring his title reign. He held the title until October 25 when Sami Callahan beat him, but he barely wrestled during that period. Last edited on Tue Jan 14th, 2020 10:26 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 10:45 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 425th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW has signed former Impact World champion Brain Cage, who the Young Bucks are very familiar with from the southern California indy scene. Cage was supposed to wrap up his Impact dates at the Hard to Kill PPV and possibly the TV tapings that followed but wound up getting a shoulder injury, so he has already wrestled his last Impact match. His scheduled match at the PPV against Rob Van Dam turned into an injury angle where RVD destroyed him, and that was likely his swan song. Cage is expected out of action for 5 months, so you likely won't see him pop up in AEW anytime soon either. Cage won the Impact World title from John Morrison on April 28 but suffered a serious back injury in that match, marring his title reign. He held the title until October 25 when Sami Callahan beat him, but he barely wrestled during that period. Cage hasn't signed yet according to his wife on the Twitters. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 14th, 2020 11:54 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 426th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW has signed former Impact World champion Brain Cage, who the Young Bucks are very familiar with from the southern California indy scene. Cage was supposed to wrap up his Impact dates at the Hard to Kill PPV and possibly the TV tapings that followed but wound up getting a shoulder injury, so he has already wrestled his last Impact match. His scheduled match at the PPV against Rob Van Dam turned into an injury angle where RVD destroyed him, and that was likely his swan song. Cage is expected out of action for 5 months, so you likely won't see him pop up in AEW anytime soon either. Cage won the Impact World title from John Morrison on April 28 but suffered a serious back injury in that match, marring his title reign. He held the title until October 25 when Sami Callahan beat him, but he barely wrestled during that period. Cage hasn't signed yet according to his wife on the Twitters. Good thing people only tell the truth on Twitter. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jan 15th, 2020 12:59 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 427th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW has signed former Impact World champion Brain Cage, who the Young Bucks are very familiar with from the southern California indy scene. Cage was supposed to wrap up his Impact dates at the Hard to Kill PPV and possibly the TV tapings that followed but wound up getting a shoulder injury, so he has already wrestled his last Impact match. His scheduled match at the PPV against Rob Van Dam turned into an injury angle where RVD destroyed him, and that was likely his swan song. Cage is expected out of action for 5 months, so you likely won't see him pop up in AEW anytime soon either. Cage won the Impact World title from John Morrison on April 28 but suffered a serious back injury in that match, marring his title reign. He held the title until October 25 when Sami Callahan beat him, but he barely wrestled during that period. I was watching a bit of Impact when he and Morrison were building up to the title match, which he won. I was impressed by him, but I did get the feeling he was going to have a lot of injuries during his career. He has a bit of that bodybuilder physique. With him carrying all that muscle mass and working the style he does (highflying/diving) I just got the impression he was going to be injury prone. Last edited on Wed Jan 15th, 2020 01:00 am by carpetbeggar Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jan 15th, 2020 01:06 am PM Quote Reply 428th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: His matches vs. Tessa Blanchard are lights out (insert joke here). No I'm serious. I'm not into intergender matches, but their matches shown on impact were damn good. He looks like Brakkus, but he can work. Definitely injury prone though. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jan 15th, 2020 05:54 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 429th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: TNT has renewed Dynamite through 2023 and an announcement about a second show being added is forthcoming. So much for TNT not being satisfied with the content/ratings. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jan 15th, 2020 06:24 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 430th Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: Wrestling fans get way too hung up on the Monday Night Wars ratings, both the WWE's highs circa 2000 and WCW's depths that year. This goes not only for fans in their 30s and 40s who really lived it, but also for those too young to have experienced that era in the way they watch wrestling now. The situation with TV was completely different back then compared to now. Back then if you cut the cord, you watched the half dozen local channels. There was no streaming. The internet was still very new and was used differently as an entertainment platform. If you had cable, you likely got 80 plus channels and maybe not that much. No one had hundreds of channels like now. HDTV was just getting started and little was actually broadcast in that format. The TV audience has been fragmented and fragmented many times over in the past 20 years. The ratings of the Monday Night Wars and even what the WWE was pulling in circa 2005-2007 are long gone and will never be attained again. The ratings will continue to get lower and the concentration in the past decade plus has been on key demographics as opposed to a mass audience. The top 10 rated network prime time shows now get ratings that in the 1980s would have led to cancellation. AEW's ratings aren't what the WWE and WCW got two decades ago and never will be at that level. People need to adjust how they look at the ratings and get that AEW is doing fine for what it and TNT need. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 01:57 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 431st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I didn't watch AEW last week so I am fast forwarding through it now to get caught up. I have a question...How the F is Michael Nakazawa? I had NEVER heard or seen his name pop up anywhere until AEW started. I know he is "close" friends with Omega, but besides being that does he really deserve a spot in AEW? I know he isn't featured much, so what the hell does he do? I wonder how much they are paying him to be Omega's Beefcake? Actually...Brutus was actually OVER in the WWF, so I think he deserved his spot back then. AEW makes him look like Omega's "punk" every week by having PAC abuse him to get to Omega. His ring work is basically forgettable..I mean he is nothing special and the baby oil gimmick is stupid. How far can you go with gimmick? After you've seen it twice or three times it's done. Right? The Elite guys are becoming the people in this business who they complained about. They wanted to be different and "for the boys". They are going down the same path by each of them hiring their own lackeys. Oh and that women's match is stupid. I mean "Luther" really. No one knew who he was except Excalibur.He is going on like we should already know him. This women's division really is F'ed up....Lol, Luther? Really? Jericho is just as guilty as the Elite in getting their buddies hired.....I'm sure Jericho defense is probably something like "He was such a great talent that never got the opportunity to show what he can do". WRONG Chris...he had opportunities, including Japan where he worked a lot, and he really showed nothing special. Just another wrestler that relied on garbage matches to get somewhat known. He sucks..Nepotism bullshit. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 01:57 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 432nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Besides MJF, I think Sammy is the REAL diamond in the rough in AEW. I think he will be a bigger star than Darby and Jungle Boy. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 01:58 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 433rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Dark Order is stupid... What are they....In the vignettes they present a NWO (not the wrestling one), corporate type look and then when the guys come out to wrestle they look like some S&M gang with the leather and all black look. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 01:58 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 434th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Scorpio Sky is amazing...He still could be a big star in this business now that he is getting this national exposure. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 01:58 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 435th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I find it really weird with Arn "coaching" Cody....Isn't Cody perceived as a veteran in this business now? Why would he need a "coach"? He doesn't need Arn to talk for him...He is great on his own. Arn would be better served "coaching" someone else who isn't that good on the "mike" yet. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:08 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 436th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I find it really weird with Arn "coaching" Cody....Isn't Cody perceived as a veteran in this business now? Why would he need a "coach"? He doesn't need Arn to talk for him...He is great on his own. Arn would be better served "coaching" someone else who isn't that good on the "mike" yet. No thought or logic in this promotion. I am still watching but losing interest each passing moment Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:15 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 437th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Dynamite opened tonight with a pic of Rocky Johnson, so they did that fast. I wonder if NXT did too. J.R. also started by extending condolences to the families of Pampero Firpo, Kendo Nagasaki, and La Parka, which I know WWE won’t do, so that was a nice touch. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:17 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 438th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Oh for fucks sake. That four way suplex shit. I think they just totally jumped the shark for me. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:18 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 439th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: So...what are you thoughts on that multi-suplex spot with Orange Cassidy? Dumb Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:19 am PM Quote Reply 440th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I find it really weird with Arn "coaching" Cody....Isn't Cody perceived as a veteran in this business now? Why would he need a "coach"? He doesn't need Arn to talk for him...He is great on his own. Arn would be better served "coaching" someone else who isn't that good on the "mike" yet. I believe it's a slow build storyline leading to Arn turning on Cody and some kind of revival to the Horsemen-Rhodes feud. Just my theory though. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:20 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 441st Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: I mean wtf Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:21 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 442nd Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I find it really weird with Arn "coaching" Cody....Isn't Cody perceived as a veteran in this business now? Why would he need a "coach"? He doesn't need Arn to talk for him...He is great on his own. Arn would be better served "coaching" someone else who isn't that good on the "mike" yet. I believe it's a slow build storyline leading to Arn turning on Cody and some kind of revival to the Horsemen-Rhodes feud. Just my theory though. I stated something like that a couple weeks ago and I was told no one in their right mind remembers that and it would be pointless. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:22 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 443rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I find it really weird with Arn "coaching" Cody....Isn't Cody perceived as a veteran in this business now? Why would he need a "coach"? He doesn't need Arn to talk for him...He is great on his own. Arn would be better served "coaching" someone else who isn't that good on the "mike" yet. I believe it's a slow build storyline leading to Arn turning on Cody and some kind of revival to the Horsemen-Rhodes feud. Just my theory though. I stated something like that a couple weeks ago and I was told no one in their right mind remembers that and it would be pointless. I think I said that and I think it’s still true. Just not the demo for that angle. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:23 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 444th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: Has Cody been coming up short in big matches? why would he seek out a coach? Or was it Arn who approached him saying he saw something Cody was missing. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 445th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: Oh for fucks sake. That four way suplex shit. I think they just totally jumped the shark for me. Yeah that was bad. Their live crowd is into it because they are mostly smart marks and it's fun to cheer for spot fests. But watching on Tv is a different story. The tag matches have way too much "cooperation spots" It looks so so bad on tv watching them set up the next sequence. Sure the matches are exciting, but I guarantee no one remembers a Young Bucks match the next day. It's a ll a blur. I remember Hogan-Andre, Hart-Austin, ect, ect.. I seem to love critiquing AEW more than anything lol...It's fun..but frustrating. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 446th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: Has Cody been coming up short in big matches? why would he seek out a coach? Or was it Arn who approached him saying he saw something Cody was missing. There was no explanation or reason. The storytelling you’re looking for just doesn’t exist outside of maybe the Jericho stuff. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:25 am PM Quote Reply 447th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I find it really weird with Arn "coaching" Cody....Isn't Cody perceived as a veteran in this business now? Why would he need a "coach"? He doesn't need Arn to talk for him...He is great on his own. Arn would be better served "coaching" someone else who isn't that good on the "mike" yet. I believe it's a slow build storyline leading to Arn turning on Cody and some kind of revival to the Horsemen-Rhodes feud. Just my theory though. I stated something like that a couple weeks ago and I was told no one in their right mind remembers that and it would be pointless. I think I said that and I think it’s still true. Just not the demo for that angle. The demo is me, myself, and I...and I wouldn't mind seeing it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:30 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 448th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I find it really weird with Arn "coaching" Cody....Isn't Cody perceived as a veteran in this business now? Why would he need a "coach"? He doesn't need Arn to talk for him...He is great on his own. Arn would be better served "coaching" someone else who isn't that good on the "mike" yet. I believe it's a slow build storyline leading to Arn turning on Cody and some kind of revival to the Horsemen-Rhodes feud. Just my theory though. I stated something like that a couple weeks ago and I was told no one in their right mind remembers that and it would be pointless. I think I said that and I think it’s still true. Just not the demo for that angle. Should have known it was Rossi. Doh Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:30 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 449th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: Has Cody been coming up short in big matches? why would he seek out a coach? Or was it Arn who approached him saying he saw something Cody was missing. To tell you the truth I don't think there was much explaining or build up. I think it is also building to Arn turning on him, but still, I think being his "coach" is stupid. If he needed a "coach" just look to his brother Dustin. And if all these new fans wouldn't know the Horseman-Rhodes story, then why didn't they even explain who Arn is? I mean he has been off TV for 20 years. that is their problem, they just expect everyone to know who everyone is...Or at least Excalibur does...but someone must be fine with it as he still does it as evidenced last week with Luther. Poor J.R. tries so hard to set Excalibur up on commentary to explain the history of these guys, but he too dumb, or arrogant to "click in". Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:32 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 450th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Good. I've always enjoyed seeing wrestlers being humiliated by getting a country whipping. Hopefully they dump honey and chicken feathers on Excalibur too. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:33 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 451st Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Old school heel Oh for fucks sake again. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:34 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 452nd Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: The last two weeks of NWA power have been so much better than this. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:35 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 453rd Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Now I like this Pak dude. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:36 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 454th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: My 46 year old self has much more muscles than this joey jenella dude Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:37 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 455th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Jelly Janela is terrible.....How the Fuck were we supposed to have known she was his ex....It's like they know they fucked up, so they try to fix everything the next week as evidenced with Janela giving us the story about why that girl gave him a nut shot last week. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:38 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 456th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: And is Brandi a heel but hubby is the ultimate baby face? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:39 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 457th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Now a space alien and some kind of cannibal Luther dude. Wtf. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:39 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 458th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: LOL at Tony trying to put "Luther" over on commentary. "Everyone knows Luther"...Bulshit Tony..You and JR had no clue who he was last week.....SEE another example of trying to explain everything after the fact. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:41 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 459th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: Now a space alien and some kind of cannibal Luther dude. Wtf. Yeah see needs to drop the alien deal... They have gave us absolutely no explanation why this women wrestler thinks see if an alien. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:41 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 460th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: I am not sure they were not bagging on Excalibur Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:42 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 461st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: That bald chick has some size to her also. I like her so far. I have no idea who her name is still though lol. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:42 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 462nd Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: No crowd reaction Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:44 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 463rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: LOL at J.R. with his sly comments "I don't understand the psychology of that". Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:48 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 464th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Shida hits like a girl. Oh wait. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:51 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 465th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Anyone here know if there is anything to the rumor that when Dynamite ends and goes off the air, J.R. just gets up from the announce table, goes out and jumps in his car and leaves? Apparently he just there to do his job and has tried to talk to them about booking, etc, but they just aren't interested in his help. Omega(who is very thin skinned and doesn't take criticism well) and The Bucks (who I guess are not too nice of dudes when off the camera and play the political games)think they know it all because they were over in Japan and the indy scene. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:53 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 466th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: See what I am saying about the Dark Order. In the vignettes they present a corporate look, but in the ring look like a bunch of guys who hang out at a fetish only S&M club. Last edited on Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:54 am by carpetbeggar Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:53 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 467th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: This dark order shit is dumb as anything ever aired on any wrestling program ever. Fk Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:56 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 468th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: This dark order shit is dumb as anything ever aired on any wrestling program ever. Fk Quattro, I have to say...I kinda like tearing this program apart every week with you.  Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:56 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 469th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I like Sammy and I think the deal he does during the commercial is great. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:57 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 470th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Agree on Sammy. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:58 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 471st Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Stone cold moxley Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 03:02 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 472nd Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Crowd not great for moxley match. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 03:18 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 473rd Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Spike to eye. Eh Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 03:19 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 474th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Good gosh look at those tits on announcer lady Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 03:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 475th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Another nobody lackey QT? Who the f is he and what has he done? He isn't anything special in the ring. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 03:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 476th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I need to get myself a pet bunny...My god she is hot. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 04:44 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 477th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I need to get myself a pet bunny...My god she is hot. Allie from Impact. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 04:45 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 478th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: Darby Allen/PAC match wasn't too bad with PAC carrying the guy to a decent match. Allen appears to be around 135lbs. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 04:56 am PM Quote Reply 479th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: I rarely ever see this much reaction and posts to any other live wrestling show on S&W, so AEW is obviously doing something right...cue up the attacks on me... Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 04:59 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 480th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: Maybe but I’m posting in this thread and not watching it so there is that. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 06:43 am PM Quote Reply 481st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: You guys should really watch NXT instead. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 06:55 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 482nd Post victhestick Joined: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin USA Posts: 2494 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: That bald chick has some size to her also. I like her so far. I have no idea who her name is still though lol. Her ring name was Melanie Cruise and she's been on the midwest Indy scene for the last decade, and has made trips to Japan as well. She has been tagging with Stacy Shadows who had a few appearances in ROH for at least one company here in Wisconsin. Mel is a sweetheart and has good in ring skills. I hope she does well and makes good money while she's there. ____________________ If it's and buts were candy and nuts, Americans would be even fatter. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 07:01 am PM Quote Reply 483rd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: The Dusty tag tourney was really good tonight. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 01:26 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 484th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Sorry I fell asleep. How did this thing end? Last thing I remember was announcer lady boobs then Bunny chick came out. Looking at them two made me have sweet dreams....... It sucks getting old Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 02:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 485th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: The Dusty tag tourney was really good tonight. It was great seeing Alex Shelley in an NXT ring, even though you knew he was the one who would do the job. On Twitter you can tell how much this meant to him. This is a guy who already semi-retired due to an accumulation of injuries and had given up on ever making it to WWE, and he finally got his match in a high-profile setting. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 03:17 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 486th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: TNT President Kevin Reilly discussed All Elite Wrestling Dynamite's new TV pact during the Television Critics Association press tour in Los Angeles yesterday, commenting, “I just had this idea that this was the time to invest. This is a startup. It’s already over-delivered out of the gate. That’s really when you want to hit the gasoline a little bit. The guys already have ideas about additional talent and things they want to do and I wanted to incentivize them as a partner to do that. We also wanted to gave fans and talent who potentially want to come work with us the sense that this is here to stay. You can invest in it, it’s here to stay, and it’s only going to get better.” Reilly also stated that the new All Elite Wrestling series on TNT will be AEW Dark, according to TheWrap.com, . The Dark series, which was conceived with the end goal of being placed on a Turner cable network, currently airs Tuesday nights on YouTube. The series' title and airing day may change, but that is not confirmed. Reilly commented, "We’re going to embellish [‘AEW Dark’ on YouTube] and put some additional material, kind of behind-the-scenes, kind of docu-follow stuff, if you will, about the athletes and the stories. We think that’s going to end up being a really good, robust, different kind of show.” There is no date as to when the series will migrate to TNT and according to Reilly, while the series will air weekly, it may not air 52 weeks a year. AEW and WarnerMedia announced yesterday that they have forged a new pact through 2023. The new deal will include AEW being paid a licensing fee for their programming ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 05:21 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 487th Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: All Elite Wrestling announced today that former ECW World Champion Taz has signed a multi-year deal with the company: ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 05:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 488th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: All Elite Wrestling announced today that former ECW World Champion Taz has signed a multi-year deal with the company: Perhaps to call the new show? ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 06:29 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 489th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: All Elite Wrestling announced today that former ECW World Champion Taz has signed a multi-year deal with the company: Perhaps to call the new show? From what I read, he was doing commentary for stuff that would air next week, so I'm assuming he's going on Dark. Honestly, I would put him in the booth next to Tony and say adios to JR and the masked guy that has zero personality. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 06:49 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 490th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: You guys should really watch NXT instead. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 16th, 2020 06:50 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 491st Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Honestly, I would put him in the booth next to Tony and say adios to JR and the masked guy that has zero personality. Me too. Honestly the only beef I really have with AEW other than too many dives is JR and the masked guy.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 17th, 2020 12:16 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 492nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW won the ratings battle again last night 940,000 to 700,000. Both shows were down a bit from last week. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 17th, 2020 01:48 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 493rd Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: The Dives (though overdone) I'll take. The tag formula and constant kick out of big moves drives me bats though. ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 17th, 2020 05:33 am PM Quote Reply 494th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Chris Jericho and Aaron Rodgers on The Dan Le Batard show earlier this week, 38 minutes long: <A HREF="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/espn/the-dan-lebatard-show-with-stugotz/e/66561414" TARGET="_blank">https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/espn/the-dan-lebatard-show-with-stugotz/e/66561414A> Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 23rd, 2020 04:31 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 495th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tonight was a really fun episode of Dynamite from Jericho’s cruise ship. Good matches and rabid crowd. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 24th, 2020 05:35 am PM Quote Reply 496th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: AEW did 871,000, down about 70,000 from last week. Not bad for a taped show aimed at a hardcore fan audience. They still beat NXT, which was up with 769,000. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 24th, 2020 03:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 497th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: AEW did 871,000, down about 70,000 from last week. Not bad for a taped show aimed at a hardcore fan audience. They still beat NXT, which was up with 769,000. I didn't realize it was taped. I'm almost positive the screen still flashed "Live" in the upper left corner. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 24th, 2020 03:18 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 498th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: Live to tape.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 24th, 2020 03:25 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 499th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: They were telling you that you should live instead of die. It was one of those subcutaneous messages. Or is it a cunnilingual message. I sometimes have trouble with these things. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jan 25th, 2020 07:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 500th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: I’m not sure who said it or when, but someone wanted to know when Omega and Riho would team in AEW, and it happened on the Jericho Cruise where they beat Joey Janela and Penelope in what was supposed to be a really good match. No word on if it will air anywhere. Probably just a special treat for the hardcore fans on the boat. Last edited on Sat Jan 25th, 2020 07:21 pm by srossi |
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Posted: Sun Feb 2nd, 2020 03:38 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 501st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I’m not sure who said it or when, but someone wanted to know when Omega and Riho would team in AEW, and it happened on the Jericho Cruise where they beat Joey Janela and Penelope in what was supposed to be a really good match. No word on if it will air anywhere. Probably just a special treat for the hardcore fans on the boat. A treat? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Feb 2nd, 2020 05:06 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 502nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I’m not sure who said it or when, but someone wanted to know when Omega and Riho would team in AEW, and it happened on the Jericho Cruise where they beat Joey Janela and Penelope in what was supposed to be a really good match. No word on if it will air anywhere. Probably just a special treat for the hardcore fans on the boat. A treat? To those fans it definitely was. There’s a huge disconnect between what people here bitch about and what the AEW diehards want. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 06:03 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 503rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: So what did everyone think? I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. O'Sullivan and some others over on the 'Dynamite' thread at WC said the show was garbage except for the Cody/MJF segment. I have it DVR'ed so I will probably check it out tomorrow night. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 06:13 am PM Quote Reply 504th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: It wasn't garbage, but it wasn't anything special either. Once again the show seemed to fly by in real time, which is always a good sign. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 03:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 505th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: So what did everyone think? I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. O'Sullivan and some others over on the 'Dynamite' thread at WC said the show was garbage except for the Cody/MJF segment. I have it DVR'ed so I will probably check it out tomorrow night. The Cody-MJF segment was the strongest they've had since the early Jericho interviews where he was laying the foundation for the Inner Circle. Really good stuff. The rest of the show was absolutely fine. If O'Sullivan and others son't like these types of matches then guess what, they're going to really be aggravated every single week so maybe they should just stop watching. It's not changing. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 03:17 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 506th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: It wasn't garbage, but it wasn't anything special either. Once again the show seemed to fly by in real time, which is always a good sign. This. It wasn't bad, it wasn't great, but damn if 2 hours didn't seem like 30 min..that's the best thing about AEW... ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 03:22 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 507th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: It wasn't garbage, but it wasn't anything special either. Once again the show seemed to fly by in real time, which is always a good sign. This. It wasn't bad, it wasn't great, but damn if 2 hours didn't seem like 30 min..that's the best thing about AEW... I notice this every week, as opposed to a WWE show. Even NXT UK seems to drag and they're only an hour. AEW flies by so they're clearly doing something right in terms of pacing that WWE hasn't figured out. Last edited on Thu Feb 6th, 2020 03:23 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 03:43 pm PM Quote Reply 508th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: There was a hilarious example of why you should sometimes clue in your announcers last night. JR was trying to make a point that Stu Grayson was the only member of the Dark Order who doesn't wear a mask. All the while there are two other men in the ring who have just unmasked. Excalibur quickly added "Except John Silver." The other guy didn't even get acknowledged, but I think it was Alex Reynolds. Not sure what the point is in unmasking wrestlers who are so unknown that even Excaliber doesn't get excited about them. Last edited on Thu Feb 6th, 2020 03:43 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 04:01 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 509th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: There was a hilarious example of why you should sometimes clue in your announcers last night. JR was trying to make a point that Stu Grayson was the only member of the Dark Order who doesn't wear a mask. All the while there are two other men in the ring who have just unmasked. Excalibur quickly added "Except John Silver." The other guy didn't even get acknowledged, but I think it was Alex Reynolds. Not sure what the point is in unmasking wrestlers who are so unknown that even Excaliber doesn't get excited about them. They've explained all of that, even if JR might have not been paying attention. Silver and Reynolds have been Dark Order pledges for a while now It was not meant to be a surprise. Last edited on Thu Feb 6th, 2020 04:06 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 11:15 pm PM Quote Reply 510th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Last night's ratings: AEW did 928,000, a 100,000 rise from last week. Did drop from #3 to #11 in the ratings, but the actual key demo rating was higher. NXT did 770,000. Up about 50,000 from last week, although you would think Charlotte's presence might of lead to more of a bump than that. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 7th, 2020 12:01 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 511th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Last night's ratings: AEW did 928,000, a 100,000 rise from last week. Did drop from #3 to #11 in the ratings, but the actual key demo rating was higher. NXT did 770,000. Up about 50,000 from last week, although you would think Charlotte's presence might of lead to more of a bump than that. Can I ask you a question? like why would you believe people would tune into see Charlotte at a high demand. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 7th, 2020 12:40 am PM Quote Reply 512th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Last night's ratings: AEW did 928,000, a 100,000 rise from last week. Did drop from #3 to #11 in the ratings, but the actual key demo rating was higher. NXT did 770,000. Up about 50,000 from last week, although you would think Charlotte's presence might of lead to more of a bump than that. Can I ask you a question? like why would you believe people would tune into see Charlotte at a high demand. Because she has big tits and most WWE fans are easily amused. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 7th, 2020 03:09 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 513th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Last night's ratings: AEW did 928,000, a 100,000 rise from last week. Did drop from #3 to #11 in the ratings, but the actual key demo rating was higher. NXT did 770,000. Up about 50,000 from last week, although you would think Charlotte's presence might of lead to more of a bump than that. Can I ask you a question? like why would you believe people would tune into see Charlotte at a high demand. Because she has big tits and most WWE fans are easily amused. Paige's most recent plastic surgery might rival Charlotte's " enhancements". Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 04:47 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 514th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: Jeff Cobb, former ROH Television Champion and Never Openweight Champion for New Japan Pro Wrestling, has been announced as making his All Elite Wrestling debut tonight with the the storyline being that Cobb has been brought in by Chris Jericho as a bounty hunter. Cobb is backstage at tonight's AEW TV taping, PWInsider.com has confirmed. While Cobb is still working for both Ring of Honor and New Japan Pro Wrestling, his appearance is not a sign that AEW has forged a working relationship with either promotion. Cobb is currently a free agent as his ROH deal expired at the end of 2019 and he declined to sign a new deal. He was booked directly by AEW as he is free to work anywhere, so his debut tonight should not be seen as anything greater than just that – a debut. Based on Jericho's promo, Cobb is booked for next week’s episode of Dynamite in Atlanta against Moxley. Cobb has not, as of this writing, signed with AEW. Cobb, 37, first broke into national prominence as Matanza Cueto in Lucha Underground. Since then, he’s worked under his ring name for a number of major promotions, including ROH, New Japan and Pro Wrestling Guerrilla. He and Dan Maff are currently in line for a future ROH Tag Team Championship bout against Jonathan Gresham and Jay Lethal. Last edited on Thu Feb 13th, 2020 04:48 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 09:35 am PM Quote Reply 515th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Nyla Rose over Rhio for the strap tonight was a really cool match. I love the fact that AEW only has 4 ppvs a year. It makes their weekly tv's so much more interesting. Dynamite is basically a mini Supercard, unlike RAW and Smackdown, which come across as infomercials for the monthly WWE ppv. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 08:08 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 516th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW notes from PWInsider: For those who have asked, the creative direction within the company since the onset of 2020 has primarily been Tony Khan. The EVPs all have a say in what they are doing and are trusted, but all of the current storylines and pushes are Khan edicts and he's been very hands on with laying out exactly what he wants out of each segment in recent weeks. The Double or Nothing pre-sale today was extremely strong and all signs are the PPV will sell out when it goes on sale tomorrow officially. As of today, Jeff Cobb is only booked for next Wednesday's Dynamite in Atlanta. His status with Ring of Honor and New Japan remains unchanged. As we reported yesterday, he is not signed to anyone and can work anywhere he wants. There are tentatively slated to be a number of Dynamite tapings in California this June. Since that's where the Young Bucks are from, it will very much be a homecoming for them. Lexie, the new interviewer, is the daughter of Diamond Dallas Page. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 10:47 pm PM Quote Reply 517th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: AEW drew only 817,000 last night, down about 110,000 from the previous week. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 11:12 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 518th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I watched the show with the volume down for most of it, but overall I thought the show was really good. I wish Brandi still hated Excalibur though instead of apologizing lol. The Inner Circle is starting to go the NWO route with the more the merrier approach. I think Cobb should have come in on his own like Pac. They have Jack Hager...He should be the one giving the beatdowns. I was glad that REEEHOOOOE dropped the belt. I think she would be better suited in being the underdog chasing the title. I'm still not into the Dark Order. I hate when all the babyfaces run down to confront and beat them up. Okay, I kinda dig Orange Cassidy. I wish they would do more things with him like they did at that big show where someone got thrown into the bathroom door and he was just randomly in there. More of that would be gold imo. But where does all of this go eventually. He can't just keep doing what he has been doing. People will grow sick of him. Where do you think the "Orange Cassidy angle" will go? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 11:24 pm PM Quote Reply 519th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Okay, I kinda dig Orange Cassidy. I wish they would do more things with him like they did at that big show where someone got thrown into the bathroom door and he was just randomly in there. More of that would be gold imo. But where does all of this go eventually. He can't just keep doing what he has been doing. People will grow sick of him. Where do you think the "Orange Cassidy angle" will go? I honestly dont know where the angle will go, other than an obvious big babyface turn down the line. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 11:35 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 520th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Okay, I kinda dig Orange Cassidy. I wish they would do more things with him like they did at that big show where someone got thrown into the bathroom door and he was just randomly in there. More of that would be gold imo. But where does all of this go eventually. He can't just keep doing what he has been doing. People will grow sick of him. Where do you think the "Orange Cassidy angle" will go? I honestly dont know where the angle will go, other than an obvious big babyface turn down the line. What do you mean? He is a babyface now. Last edited on Thu Feb 13th, 2020 11:36 pm by carpetbeggar Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 11:40 pm PM Quote Reply 521st Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Okay, I kinda dig Orange Cassidy. I wish they would do more things with him like they did at that big show where someone got thrown into the bathroom door and he was just randomly in there. More of that would be gold imo. But where does all of this go eventually. He can't just keep doing what he has been doing. People will grow sick of him. Where do you think the "Orange Cassidy angle" will go? I honestly dont know where the angle will go, other than an obvious big babyface turn down the line. What do you mean? He is a babyface now. The Best Friends are heels. Orange just gets cheered by the live crowd, but he's still technically a heel/tweener. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 11:42 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 522nd Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: I figure they'll milk the sloth thing for all it's worth then have him eventually bust out some big flippy moves. The guy behind the gimmick is a pretty decent flippy-type guy. ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 05:49 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 523rd Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Nyla Rose over Rhio for the strap tonight was a really cool match. Thank God the strap is off the anime character and onto a real wrestler. ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 06:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 524th Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: I still do not understand the Orange Cassidy character. The other week after a Dork Odor match he hops into the ring for no apparent reason, does his hands in pocket schtick and gets beat down. WTF? Why? ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 06:13 am PM Quote Reply 525th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: I still do not understand the Orange Cassidy character. The other week after a Dork Odor match he hops into the ring for no apparent reason, does his hands in pocket schtick and gets beat down. WTF? Why? They want him to join and he is saying no. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 04:04 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 526th Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/448.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu448')">BitterOldMana> wrote: I still do not understand the Orange Cassidy character. The other week after a Dork Odor match he hops into the ring for no apparent reason, does his hands in pocket schtick and gets beat down. WTF? Why? They want him to join and he is saying no. Ok, I deserved the snark for wording my question poorly. To set the scene, the Dork Odor are in the ring en masse. Cassidy voluntarily enters the ring and puts himself in jeopardy; it's not as if the DO trapped him or were seeking him out as a prospective member. An offer is made and refused in short order and then the beatdown begins. Where's the logic in what OC did? Or has it come to the point where common sense and rudimentary logic no longer apply in AEW and whatever might pop a crowd goes? ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 04:54 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 527th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: So after seeing him a few times now I think it’s safe to say Luchasaurus is terrible. He’s a big imposing guy but his gimmick is awful and his timing is just as bad. Jungle Boy is hard to take seriously and Mark Stunt needs to go away. AEW comes off like amateur hour when these guys are around. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 05:11 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 528th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: Also, Jericho seems like a bigger star now than he ever has before, and they’ve done a great job building Moxley up as his contender. The entire upcoming PPV has had a great build really. I like a lot of things AEW is doing and it’s such an easy and fun show to watch. Omega and the Bucks really come across as unlikeable though, they are all dorky guys who are getting their chance to run things and they try to act cool and it just feels forced and arrogant. Oh, and Excalibur is the worst. He looks like an idiot with the mask at the announcers table ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 05:30 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 529th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: So after seeing him a few times now I think it’s safe to say Luchasaurus is terrible. He’s a big imposing guy but his gimmick is awful and his timing is just as bad. Jungle Boy is hard to take seriously and Mark Stunt needs to go away. AEW comes off like amateur hour when these guys are around. Serioulsy? Man, I couldn't disagree with you more on everything you just said. Luchasaurus is a star..that entire match was a clusterfuck last night, but he's usually very good in the ring. The entire Jurassic express is one of the first things they've gotten right from the get-go there in AEW... ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 05:31 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 530th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: Also, Jericho seems like a bigger star now than he ever has before, and they’ve done a great job building Moxley up as his contender. The entire upcoming PPV has had a great build really. I like a lot of things AEW is doing and it’s such an easy and fun show to watch. Omega and the Bucks really come across as unlikeable though, they are all dorky guys who are getting their chance to run things and they try to act cool and it just feels forced and arrogant. Oh, and Excalibur is the worst. He looks like an idiot with the mask at the announcers table I'll agree with you 100% though on Omega and the Young Bucks. Omega, I saw a few of his Japan matches but here on my tv each week he comes off as absolutely nothing special..he's actually kind of goofy to watch. And the Young Bucks, damn, they're damned lucky they're friends with Cody.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 05:33 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 531st Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: So after seeing him a few times now I think it’s safe to say Luchasaurus is terrible. He’s a big imposing guy but his gimmick is awful and his timing is just as bad. Jungle Boy is hard to take seriously and Mark Stunt needs to go away. AEW comes off like amateur hour when these guys are around. Serioulsy? Man, I couldn't disagree with you more on everything you just said. Luchasaurus is a star..that entire match was a clusterfuck last night, but he's usually very good in the ring. The entire Jurassic express is one of the first things they've gotten right from the get-go there in AEW... Yep. He’s either early or late on almost every kick or he totally misses, and he throws a lot of kicks. And he works far too soft, as one of the few big men in the promotion he should be a monster instead of missing spin kicks left and right. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 08:07 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 532nd Post cdewar19 Joined: Mon Feb 22nd, 2010 Location: In The Ruins Of CanadInns Stadium, Manitoba Canada Posts: 1639 Status: Offline Mana: I like the pairing of Luchasaurus and Jungle Boy, but Stunt adds nothing to the team. Luchasaurus has gotten a lot better in a short time, because he was brutal before AEW. Omega can't connect with the crowd here. Everytime he cuts a promo, he sounds like a doofus. Being the "Best Bout Machine" doesn't get you over in North America. The Bucks seem to be slowing down due to damage to their bodies, so they are going to need to come up with a different style to work. I love the amount of time they have between their pay per views, because they can really build up matches. Jericho is clearly the MVP of the promotion, so I am conflicted about who should win between him and Moxley. if Moxley loses, it will go over like a fart in church, but I'm not sure Jericho's title reign is ready to be finished right now. ____________________ "Getting promotionally outmaneuvered by TNA is like when Cartman lost all of his events at the Special Olympics." - tofu chipmunk Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 08:35 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 533rd Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: Omega looks and sounds like a total dork. He looks like a fake fighting cosplay / Larp person. Not saying he doesn’t have some good to great matches to his name. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 11:18 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 534th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Moxley needs to be World Champion. But not yet. Jericho should hold this belt the way Flair held it from ‘85-‘89 for at least the rest of this year and into next year (maybe lose it once for a couple weeks and win it back but nothing more). He is unquestionably the reason why AEW is taken seriously. He is gold in the ring, on the mic, facially, on social media, pretty much EVERYTHING he does is right for AEW. Kenny Omega is awful, and I hope it’s an angle that we just don’t see...like, this is all going to break down eventually, and he becomes the one and only character that people want to see in The Cleaner. As leader of the Bullet Club, he was somewhat “must see”. His match with Jericho on the New Years show was awesome, even if he sucks at selling a beating and Jericho pretty much carried the match in that aspect. But he can be flipped in a heartbeat - he should be a heel anyway because he sucks as a face. As far as the Young Bucks go, I never understood all the love for them. When they were in TNA, I thought that the Motor City Machine Guns were the better team of the two and if you look at the history of this board I stated that they were really stupid for not re-signing with TNA. I was wrong about that. But they are still very over, and finally aren’t killing themselves in the ring with crazy spots. But, they don’t know how to work otherwise. They need to work on the flow of their mat wrestling if they don’t want to do the amount of insane aerial moves. But to me, they are just the present. The future of AEW can be MJF and Sammy Guevara. Both have talent and both are young enough that they can eventually flip them both face and ride the wave with them - the fans already know they have talent, and would cheer them if they turned. That shouldn’t be for at least another year though. And Cody needs to stop doing unnecessary shit and just work, because he will eventually be the guy that goes over Moxley for the World Championship. Because the Jericho tap will eventually run dry, you can’t expect 50+ year olds as your Champ forever. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 21st, 2020 02:33 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 535th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: It goes to show you how good Kazuchika Okada is. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 21st, 2020 04:36 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 536th Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: It's nice to see that people are realizing that Omega and the Bucks aren't the modern day saviors of pro wrestling. You don't have to be old and bitter to see the goofy facial expressions and wild gesturing that Omega does or the Bucks need to learn something other than a superkick and dives. And that the anime shit isn't over, they've taken the belt off of Riho which is a start towards building a real women's division. ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 21st, 2020 10:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 537th Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: Stunt serves a purpose - he gets the shit kicked out of him and guys probably like working with him cause he makes their stuff look more devastating. Hangman Page has went from being near DOA to someone I actually want to see more of. Omega needs someone to reign his bad habits in - hey, wonder if Okada can secure a 6 month work visa? ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Feb 24th, 2020 12:10 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 538th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: Also, Jericho seems like a bigger star now than he ever has before, and they’ve done a great job building Moxley up as his contender. The entire upcoming PPV has had a great build really. I like a lot of things AEW is doing and it’s such an easy and fun show to watch. Omega and the Bucks really come across as unlikeable though, they are all dorky guys who are getting their chance to run things and they try to act cool and it just feels forced and arrogant. Oh, and Excalibur is the worst. He looks like an idiot with the mask at the announcers table I'll agree with you 100% though on Omega and the Young Bucks. Omega, I saw a few of his Japan matches but here on my tv each week he comes off as absolutely nothing special..he's actually kind of goofy to watch. And the Young Bucks, damn, they're damned lucky they're friends with Cody.. Think you got that backwards. Cody is lucky he became friends with the Bucks. Without them, AEW doesn’t exist. Hell, Cody’s entire indy blueprint doesn’t exist and he spends the past few years billed as “Former WWE Superstar Cody” doing autograph signings and matches against Disco Inferno in national guard armories. He doesn’t get an ROH push and he sure as hell doesn’t break into NJPW without them. Cody stepped in the biggest pile of shit ever associating with The Elite. Last edited on Mon Feb 24th, 2020 12:11 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Feb 24th, 2020 12:16 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 539th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: So after seeing him a few times now I think it’s safe to say Luchasaurus is terrible. He’s a big imposing guy but his gimmick is awful and his timing is just as bad. Jungle Boy is hard to take seriously and Mark Stunt needs to go away. AEW comes off like amateur hour when these guys are around. Serioulsy? Man, I couldn't disagree with you more on everything you just said. Luchasaurus is a star..that entire match was a clusterfuck last night, but he's usually very good in the ring. The entire Jurassic express is one of the first things they've gotten right from the get-go there in AEW... Yep. He’s either early or late on almost every kick or he totally misses, and he throws a lot of kicks. And he works far too soft, as one of the few big men in the promotion he should be a monster instead of missing spin kicks left and right. He basically has less than 2 years of real full-time experience. After quitting the PC after the DeMott situation, he barely worked and did reality TV. I don’t disagree with you but the natural talent is there and there’s no reason to believe he won’t get better. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Feb 24th, 2020 04:42 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 540th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I'm actually not as down on AEW now since I stopped listening to Wrestling Observer Radio. Something about Dave and Alvarez constantly putting the promotion over made he hate it. lol They still have some major issues though. (Both AEW and WOR). Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Feb 26th, 2020 10:59 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 541st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW has signed NJPW star Lance Archer. No word if he will continue to work NJPW dates, but this is a good signing. Archer emerged from the Texas indies and first made a name for himself in TNA with a nice 5-year run before moving on to a lackluster stint in WWE. For the last decade he’s starred in Japan, primarily as one half of the Killer Elite Squad with Davey Boy Smith, Jr. in both NOAH and NJPW. After Smith returned to America, Archer got a singles push in NJPW and won the IWGP U.S. title, dropping it to Jon Moxley at Wrestle Kingdom last month. Archer will turn 43 on Friday. Last edited on Wed Feb 26th, 2020 11:11 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Feb 26th, 2020 11:28 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 542nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW has signed NJPW star Lance Archer. No word if he will continue to work NJPW dates, but this is a good signing. Archer emerged from the Texas indies and first made a name for himself in TNA with a nice 5-year run before moving on to a lackluster stint in WWE. For the last decade he’s starred in Japan, primarily as one half of the Killer Elite Squad with Davey Boy Smith, Jr. in both NOAH and NJPW. After Smith returned to America, Archer got a singles push in NJPW and won the IWGP U.S. title, dropping it to Jon Moxley at Wrestle Kingdom last month. Archer will turn 43 on Friday. Right on. I really like him. That match over in Japan was good I thought. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 02:19 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 543rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: So I'm guessing Kenny Omega is turning heel this Saturday night at the PPV...Maybe him and Page, but I think Omega is for sure. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 02:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 544th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW has signed NJPW star Lance Archer. No word if he will continue to work NJPW dates, but this is a good signing. Archer emerged from the Texas indies and first made a name for himself in TNA with a nice 5-year run before moving on to a lackluster stint in WWE. For the last decade he’s starred in Japan, primarily as one half of the Killer Elite Squad with Davey Boy Smith, Jr. in both NOAH and NJPW. After Smith returned to America, Archer got a singles push in NJPW and won the IWGP U.S. title, dropping it to Jon Moxley at Wrestle Kingdom last month. Archer will turn 43 on Friday. Right on. I really like him. That match over in Japan was good I thought. Archer really impressed me, this is great for AEW ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 02:34 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 545th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Really good match between Pac and Omega even though they are hitting each other with every power move in the book. That was a wild table bump. I can't stand the Bucks when they are out there cheer leading. Someone over on reddit said that they are like the AEW version of Miss Elizabeth. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 02:37 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 546th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I don't like Aubrey. She is way too distracting with her animated movements when a wrestler takes a big bump. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 02:54 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 547th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW has signed NJPW star Lance Archer. No word if he will continue to work NJPW dates, but this is a good signing. Archer emerged from the Texas indies and first made a name for himself in TNA with a nice 5-year run before moving on to a lackluster stint in WWE. For the last decade he’s starred in Japan, primarily as one half of the Killer Elite Squad with Davey Boy Smith, Jr. in both NOAH and NJPW. After Smith returned to America, Archer got a singles push in NJPW and won the IWGP U.S. title, dropping it to Jon Moxley at Wrestle Kingdom last month. Archer will turn 43 on Friday. Archer is done with NJPW. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 02:55 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 548th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I want to see Marco Stunt go heel. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 05:37 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 549th Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: I went to the show tonight, as it was in the KC suburb of Independence. I'd say a crowd of @ 4-5k. Omega/PAC was pretty fun, and that Yuka chick in the women's match can really sell. In person Marko Stunt looks even smaller than I'd imagined. He's about as big as me when I was 8 years old Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 06:07 am PM Quote Reply 550th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Just got done watching here on the West Coast. Another solid show. I will definitely order the Revolution PPV. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 11:46 am PM Quote Reply 551st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I thought last night's Dynamite was the best show yet. They pretty much knocked it out of the park. 9/10 The only minus points really were at the weigh-in. It was kind of weird to have a weigh-in out of nowhere. I've never seen one in wrestling before, but I guess it was a change from a contract signing. For all their promotion of being the "woke" wrestling promotion, I was surprised to see them use ring-girls as eye candy, something that is being phased out of many sports today. And there is no one in wrestling history who has a more over-inflated opinion of themselves than fucking Gary Michael Capetta. Also, he was awful in his role. Once Jericho started talking, of course, the segment was great. Last edited on Thu Feb 27th, 2020 11:54 am by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 02:44 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 552nd Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I thought last night's Dynamite was the best show yet. They pretty much knocked it out of the park. 9/10 The only minus points really were at the weigh-in. It was kind of weird to have a weigh-in out of nowhere. I've never seen one in wrestling before, but I guess it was a change from a contract signing. For all their promotion of being the "woke" wrestling promotion, I was surprised to see them use ring-girls as eye candy, something that is being phased out of many sports today. And there is no one in wrestling history who has a more over-inflated opinion of themselves than fucking Gary Michael Capetta. Also, he was awful in his role. Once Jericho started talking, of course, the segment was great. Of all the people in wrestling, you're going with GMC as having the most overinflated opinion of himself, lol.... ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 03:41 pm PM Quote Reply 553rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: If you take everyone in wrestling history, take what they thought their value was and divide by their real value, no one would beat GMC. He managed to be horrible and inconsequential, but he happily promotes himself as the world's most dangerous ring announcer. I thought he was a terrible ring announcer when I first heard him in 1990 and I was 11 years old and had nothing really to compare him with. I hate his early WWF stuff. I hate everything about him. No hyperbole. If I won an all expenses paid trip to WrestleMania and he was being inducted into the HOF, I'd stay at home. Last edited on Thu Feb 27th, 2020 03:42 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 03:44 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 554th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: If you take everyone in wrestling history, take what they thought their value was and divide by their real value, no one would beat GMC. He managed to be horrible and inconsequential, but he happily promotes himself as the world's most dangerous ring announcer. I thought he was a terrible ring announcer when I first heard him in 1990 and I was 11 years old and had nothing really to compare him with. I hate his early WWF stuff. I hate everything about him. No hyperbole. If I won an all expenses paid trip to WrestleMania and he was being inducted into the HOF, I'd stay at home. This is approaching Jim Cornette-level hysterical ravings. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 03:50 pm PM Quote Reply 555th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: If you take everyone in wrestling history, take what they thought their value was and divide by their real value, no one would beat GMC. He managed to be horrible and inconsequential, but he happily promotes himself as the world's most dangerous ring announcer. I thought he was a terrible ring announcer when I first heard him in 1990 and I was 11 years old and had nothing really to compare him with. I hate his early WWF stuff. I hate everything about him. No hyperbole. If I won an all expenses paid trip to WrestleMania and he was being inducted into the HOF, I'd stay at home. This is approaching Jim Cornette-level hysterical ravings. Haha. I always hated his voice as a kid, when WCW Worldwide was the only wrestling I could watch, and he never did anything to change my mind. Of course I exaggerate, but I was legit annoyed when he appeared last night, and happy to be proved right, because he was awful. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 03:54 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 556th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: If you take everyone in wrestling history, take what they thought their value was and divide by their real value, no one would beat GMC. He managed to be horrible and inconsequential, but he happily promotes himself as the world's most dangerous ring announcer. I thought he was a terrible ring announcer when I first heard him in 1990 and I was 11 years old and had nothing really to compare him with. I hate his early WWF stuff. I hate everything about him. No hyperbole. If I won an all expenses paid trip to WrestleMania and he was being inducted into the HOF, I'd stay at home. This is approaching Jim Cornette-level hysterical ravings. Haha. I always hated his voice as a kid, when WCW Worldwide was the only wrestling I could watch, and he never did anything to change my mind. Of course I exaggerate, but I was legit annoyed when he appeared last night, and happy to be proved right, because he was awful. He’s no Fink or even Joe McHugh, but I always liked him. Much better than David Penzer, who I think was his full-time replacement. Last edited on Thu Feb 27th, 2020 03:56 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 09:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 557th Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: If you take everyone in wrestling history, take what they thought their value was and divide by their real value, no one would beat GMC. He managed to be horrible and inconsequential, but he happily promotes himself as the world's most dangerous ring announcer. I thought he was a terrible ring announcer when I first heard him in 1990 and I was 11 years old and had nothing really to compare him with. I hate his early WWF stuff. I hate everything about him. No hyperbole. If I won an all expenses paid trip to WrestleMania and he was being inducted into the HOF, I'd stay at home. Ok boomer. ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 09:45 pm PM Quote Reply 558th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I never new there were so many Capetta marks here, ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 28th, 2020 12:10 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 559th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Last night AEW won the ratings battle 865,000 to 717,000. But more importantly Bryan Alvarez reports that for the first time ever AEW won every single demo, even the older ones. Reviews for the show were through the roof, with most feeling that it was a home run and possibly the best top to bottom episode ever. Also the Revolution hype show that followed Dynamite was very strongly received and was easily AEW’s strongest piece of production ever. Last edited on Fri Feb 28th, 2020 12:15 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 28th, 2020 12:38 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 560th Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I never new there were so many Capetta marks here, It was wierd. I"m 49, and obviously remember him from early 80's WWWF and then WCW. But you pretty much have to be in your late 30's to 40's to have any recollection of him as an announcer, which was not the crowd last night. Plus....he looked fucking awful. I know he's in his late 60's, but he looked he he was going to crap his depends walking to the ring. The last time I saw him in person (and this is dating myself) was @ 1990 when WCW did a few shows in Toronto on the CNE grounds. He kept on trying to pimp out the weekly show on TBS in between matches, even though people were trying to explain to him that back then, we didn't get TBS in Canada, unless you had one of those old huge Satellite Dishes. He kept on saying "Well we get it in the hotel..." Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 28th, 2020 04:51 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 561st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/156.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu156')">Principal_Raditcha> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I never new there were so many Capetta marks here, It was wierd. I"m 49, and obviously remember him from early 80's WWWF and then WCW. But you pretty much have to be in your late 30's to 40's to have any recollection of him as an announcer, which was not the crowd last night. Plus....he looked fucking awful. I know he's in his late 60's, but he looked he he was going to crap his depends walking to the ring. The last time I saw him in person (and this is dating myself) was @ 1990 when WCW did a few shows in Toronto on the CNE grounds. He kept on trying to pimp out the weekly show on TBS in between matches, even though people were trying to explain to him that back then, we didn't get TBS in Canada, unless you had one of those old huge Satellite Dishes. He kept on saying "Well we get it in the hotel..." I used to get TBS, but I have no recollection of him doing a weekly show at all. What was it all about? As far as Gary as an announcer, he actually grew on me as time went on. By the time he left WCW I liked him and kind of missed him. I have never really cared too much though as far as ring announcers went, that is until I heard Justin Roberts. His voice articulation and enunciation just rubs me the wrong way and annoys the hell out of me. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 28th, 2020 04:54 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 562nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Last night AEW won the ratings battle 865,000 to 717,000. But more importantly Bryan Alvarez reports that for the first time ever AEW won every single demo, even the older ones. Reviews for the show were through the roof, with most feeling that it was a home run and possibly the best top to bottom episode ever. Also the Revolution hype show that followed Dynamite was very strongly received and was easily AEW’s strongest piece of production ever. Did Herb have the number of viewers who tuned into the PPV countdown show? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 28th, 2020 05:21 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 563rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Last night AEW won the ratings battle 865,000 to 717,000. But more importantly Bryan Alvarez reports that for the first time ever AEW won every single demo, even the older ones. Reviews for the show were through the roof, with most feeling that it was a home run and possibly the best top to bottom episode ever. Also the Revolution hype show that followed Dynamite was very strongly received and was easily AEW’s strongest piece of production ever. Did Herb have the number of viewers who tuned into the PPV countdown show? Haven’t seen that number. Just got my info from a tweet from Alvarez. Last edited on Fri Feb 28th, 2020 05:22 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 28th, 2020 06:06 am PM Quote Reply 564th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: f4online: With NBA basketball back after a week off due to the All-Star break as well as stronger-than-usual competition from the news networks, both AEW Dynamite and NXT fell a bit in the ratings this week. Dynamite averaged 865,000 viewers, down three percent from last week. In the all-important 18-49 demo, the show was also down three percent, averaging a 0.3 rating. That allowed Dynamite to finish ninth in the overall cable TV rankings for that category. NXT had an average audience of 717,000 viewers, down eight percent. It was their lowest number in 4 weeks. In 18-49, the episode was down 10 percent, averaging a 0.23 rating and finishing 17th in the cable TV rankings. For the first time, it was a clean sweep for AEW in the demo categories. It beat NXT in every age group, including those over 50. The closest NXT came was in that category with a 0.34 rating to a 0.36 for Dynamite. Miz & Mrs, which follows NXT on USA Network, fell out of the top 50 in the 18-49 rankings, finishing 62nd with a 0.13 rating. In overall viewers, the show averaged a series-low 394,000. AEW's Countdown to Revolution special aired after Dynamite and did a 0.14 rating in 18-49, coming in just ahead of Miz & Mrs in those rankings. Miz and Mrs was ahead in total viewers, with the Countdown special averaging 383,000. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 03:53 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 565th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Anyone watching tonight? Cody and MJF about to start. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 04:17 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 566th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I'm not digging this Cody-MJF match. Cody tries too hard. He's trying to work a style that he just can't do...He needs to take some more tips from his Dad's book. And the entrances are getting a bit much. It's a bit pretentious for one of the VP's of the company to spend so much on his entrances. He is actually becoming worse for this than HHH. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 04:57 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 567th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: War Games officially announced for the next PPV at Prudential Center. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 06:04 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 568th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: War Games officially announced for the next PPV at Prudential Center. Did they not say it was the 25th of March? If so then that is on a Wednesday. I guess they are going to have the match on 'Dynamite'. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 06:24 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 569th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: This was the first non-wrestlemania wrestling pay-per-view I’ve bought in probably 15 to 20 years. It was also one of the best wrestling pay-per-views I think I’ve ever watched other than the women’s match. Besides following the tag match which nobody could follow, Nyla is just not good at all. For someone who supposed to be this jacked up female monster, she is really not strong at all and is going to hurt somebody one day. I agree a little on Cody, especially his entrance, It was way over the top. And to be honest I only bought the PPV originally for the Orange Cassidy match and it was pretty damned entertaining. He can legit go in the ring... Last edited on Sun Mar 1st, 2020 06:26 am by Married Jo ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 06:38 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 570th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: And to be honest I only bought the PPV originally for the Orange Cassidy match and it was pretty damned entertaining. He can legit go in the ring... Jim Cornette weeps for your satanic soul. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 07:45 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 571st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Just saw the match and Cody and MJF told such an amazing story throughout that match. It was outstanding. Not the spotfest show-stealer that the Bucks match was, but Cody is quickly becoming as good as it gets in the business at creating special moments. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 05:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 572nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Schiavone was pretty funny on Twitter with this: “I’ve been known to throw out a few superlatives in my day 😂😉 but I think this was the best tag team match I’ve ever seen.” ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 06:14 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 573rd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: I hate that Moxley won the belt. He definitely should be champion and a long term one at that, but I think Jericho has been gold and should’ve kept the belt for a year. I really hope that Jericho gets it back quickly and then Mox wins it at their equivalent of Wrestlemania and holds it for a good long run. I just think that at Jericho’s age and his music career that you are on borrowed time with his viability as champ, while Moxley has years ahead of him. And you know before Jericho hangs it up, he’s going to be face again. It’s too soon though - unless Jericho wants to be done now, which I doubt. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 06:33 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 574th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: I hate that Moxley won the belt. He definitely should be champion and a long term one at that, but I think Jericho has been gold and should’ve kept the belt for a year. I really hope that Jericho gets it back quickly and then Mox wins it at their equivalent of Wrestlemania and holds it for a good long run. I just think that at Jericho’s age and his music career that you are on borrowed time with his viability as champ, while Moxley has years ahead of him. And you know before Jericho hangs it up, he’s going to be face again. It’s too soon though - unless Jericho wants to be done now, which I doubt. Yep, agree with everything you said. I think this is some of Jericho’s best work of his career and AEW needs him as champ to be the face of the promotion. Last edited on Sun Mar 1st, 2020 06:33 pm by cookie32723 ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 06:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 575th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: I hate that Moxley won the belt. He definitely should be champion and a long term one at that, but I think Jericho has been gold and should’ve kept the belt for a year. I really hope that Jericho gets it back quickly and then Mox wins it at their equivalent of Wrestlemania and holds it for a good long run. I just think that at Jericho’s age and his music career that you are on borrowed time with his viability as champ, while Moxley has years ahead of him. And you know before Jericho hangs it up, he’s going to be face again. It’s too soon though - unless Jericho wants to be done now, which I doubt. I agree. I was surprised they switched it so quickly. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 09:29 pm PM Quote Reply 576th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Cody's new tattoo is horrendous. Even worse than Jack Gallagher's new ink. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 09:33 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 577th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Cody's new tattoo is horrendous. Even worse than Jack Gallagher's new ink. I don’t know when neck and face tats became acceptable for anyone other than prisoners, but this has to stop. Few can get away with it, and Cody can get away with it less than most. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 11:04 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 578th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Colt Cabana has officially signed with AEW as an in-ring talent, agent, and occasional commentator. No word on what this means for his future with the NWA since they have a working relationship with ROH. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2020 12:05 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 579th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: That’s an ugly neck piece ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2020 02:59 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 580th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider post-Revolution news and notes: Jon Moxley was busted open when he hit his head on the ringpost during the main event of AEW Revolution. During a post-show media scrum, Moxley stated that he was seeing triple after he struck the ringpost. He noted he was probably "half-concussed." Tonight's PPV was a 100% sellout. AEW was selling Jon Moxley "I Was There" t-shirts commemorating his AEW Championship win after the PPV. The two-ring, double cage with a roof match at the 3/25 Dynamite will be titled a "Blood and Guts" match, according to AEW President Tony Khan. He made it clear there will be zero reference to the match as a Wargames. Dustin Rhodes and QT Marshall will be a regular tag team going forward as the Natural Nightmares, managed by Brandi Rhodes. Brandi was not be as active cornering Cody going forward, leaving him with Arn Anderson full-time. Colt Cabana is officially signed with AEW and will be working as a wrestler, producer and announcer. He will still be able to take outside dates. Jeff Cobb has not signed any contract with AEW as of this writing. Renee Young was backstage. I neglected to mention this in my PPV report, but actor Stephen Amell accompanied Cody to ringside for his match. AEW President Tony Khan declined to comment on the possibility of Matt Hardy coming in. Yes, that was a real neck tattoo on Cody featuring the Nightmare Family logo. Brandi Rhodes made it clear during the post-match scrum she wasn't a fan of it. It was noted during the post-show media scrum that Awesome Kong had been working as a Producer for the women's division but is taking a break from those duties as she is filming the final season of Netflix's GLOW. Chris Jericho noted that he felt his ring entrance at the PPV was the best ring entrance in his entire career. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2020 06:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 581st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I haven’t been able to watch the tag match that everyone is raving about yet. I have the full show on my laptop and planned on watching it, but I cooked my motherboard last night. If anyone knows where I can watch it online on my phone please hit me up. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 3rd, 2020 11:58 am PM Quote Reply 582nd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="/users/22.html" TARGET="_blank">FranchiseA> wrote: That’s an ugly neck piece Attached Image (viewed 51 times): cody-neck-tat-696x392.jpg Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 3rd, 2020 12:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 583rd Post Infamous 必 勝 Joined: Mon Oct 25th, 2010 Location: Slums Of Shaolin Posts: 2829 Status: Offline Mana: That screams attention whore. His 'executive' role is probably just window dressing for the cameras but good luck in business meetings with that thing on your neck Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 3rd, 2020 10:04 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 584th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: It really is awful looking. Not only is the design and color scheme lame, but the actual quality of the work looks poor. No one looking to get their first tattoo should ever choose anywhere above where the shoulders meet the neck. Ever. I'm looking forward to the next time MJF gets a live microphone on 'Dynamite'. I'm sure he will be giving his opinion on it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 3rd, 2020 10:05 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 585th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: It really is awful looking. Not only is the design and color scheme lame, but the actual quality of the work looks poor. No one looking to get their first tattoo should ever choose anywhere above where the shoulders meet the neck. Ever. I'm looking forward to the next time MJF gets a live microphone on 'Dynamite'. I'm sure he will be giving his opinion on it. The Ink Master judges would send that artist home. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 3rd, 2020 10:09 pm PM Quote Reply 586th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: It looks like one of those temporary tattoos that used to come with bubble gum. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 3rd, 2020 10:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 587th Post kargol Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Brum, United Kingdom Posts: 5565 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: No one looking to get their first tattoo should ever choose anywhere above where the shoulders meet the neck. Ever. It's not his first. Looks like he's had a love bite from a patriotic vampire. ____________________ superfunkymean Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 3rd, 2020 10:22 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 588th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/46.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu46')">kargola> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: No one looking to get their first tattoo should ever choose anywhere above where the shoulders meet the neck. Ever. It's not his first. Looks like he's had a love bite from a patriotic vampire. He's had "Dream" tattooed over his heart since leaving WWE. Not sure what else he may have. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Mar 4th, 2020 01:34 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 589th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/46.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu46')">kargola> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: No one looking to get their first tattoo should ever choose anywhere above where the shoulders meet the neck. Ever. It's not his first. Looks like he's had a love bite from a patriotic vampire. He's had "Dream" tattooed over his heart since leaving WWE. Not sure what else he may have. Oh fuck.. Yes, I totally forgot about that. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Mar 4th, 2020 01:47 pm PM Quote Reply 590th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/46.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu46')">kargola> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: No one looking to get their first tattoo should ever choose anywhere above where the shoulders meet the neck. Ever. It's not his first. Looks like he's had a love bite from a patriotic vampire. He's had "Dream" tattooed over his heart since leaving WWE. Not sure what else he may have. Oh fuck.. Yes, I totally forgot about that. He also has a tattoo of Dusty's splotch above his right eye. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2020 02:40 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 591st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Oh lord these "dirtsheet" writer quotes about the ppv tag match is cringe as Fuck. .and putting any quote from Alvarez on your program is the worst. Bryan Alvarez??? 😆 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2020 03:40 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 592nd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: That tattoo wouldn’t look bad on his arm. But if his hot hole of a wife doesn’t like it, I wouldn’t have risked my cock on it. Because Brandi looks like a really fun ride. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2020 03:42 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 593rd Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/46.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu46')">kargola> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: No one looking to get their first tattoo should ever choose anywhere above where the shoulders meet the neck. Ever. It's not his first. Looks like he's had a love bite from a patriotic vampire. He's had "Dream" tattooed over his heart since leaving WWE. Not sure what else he may have. That isn't good either. It always looks crooked to me ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2020 04:35 am PM Quote Reply 594th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: AEW 3/4/19 Dynamite Spoiler Alert: Jake Roberts debuts and looks like Magnum TA's twin brother. I wonder if he's going to fuck Tully Blanchard's wife backstage as well? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2020 08:21 am PM Quote Reply 595th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: And there is no one in wrestling history who has a more over-inflated opinion of themselves than fucking Gary Michael Capetta. You've obviously never had a conversation with Colt Cabana before. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2020 09:16 am PM Quote Reply 596th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: And there is no one in wrestling history who has a more over-inflated opinion of themselves than fucking Gary Michael Capetta. You've obviously never had a conversation with Colt Cabana before. That made me LOL. I have only ever spoken to two wrestlers, and Cabana is one of them. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2020 09:22 am PM Quote Reply 597th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: And there is no one in wrestling history who has a more over-inflated opinion of themselves than fucking Gary Michael Capetta. You've obviously never had a conversation with Colt Cabana before. That made me LOL. I have only ever spoken to two wrestlers, and Cabana is one of them. Lol :cool: Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2020 10:06 am PM Quote Reply 598th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Jim Ross really needs to start wearing glasses to help hide his hideously disgusting looking eyes, like Gorilla Monsoon use to do. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2020 08:49 pm PM Quote Reply 599th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: AEW 3/4/19 Dynamite Spoiler Alert: Jake Roberts debuts and looks like Magnum TA's twin brother. I wonder if he's going to fuck Tully Blanchard's wife backstage as well? What was with his half a haircut? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2020 10:05 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 600th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Rumor is that Jake Roberts' "client" will be Luke Harper, whose non-compete expires in days and is almost surely going to AEW. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. |
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Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2020 10:44 pm PM Quote Reply 601st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Rumor is that Jake Roberts' "client" will be Luke Harper, whose non-compete expires in days and is almost surely going to AEW. Wasn't Lance Archer supposed to debut this week? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 12:07 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 602nd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Jake Roberts as the mouthpiece for Luke Harper will work. The biggest problem is that Jake ruined his voice by smoking crack, so his best promos would be the quiet pre-tapes. But, he can still get an angle over, and you know he wasn’t scripted last night. Still surprises me that he comes in and gets 5 mins with Cody, while Tully Blanchard hasn’t picked up a mic since the show started. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 01:51 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 603rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Rumor is that Jake Roberts' "client" will be Luke Harper, whose non-compete expires in days and is almost surely going to AEW. Wasn't Lance Archer supposed to debut this week? It was assumed because they announced his signing, but it was never guaranteed. If they brought in Harper and Archer as a monster tag team with Roberts as their mouthpiece, I’d say sign me up. They would all work well together, but that’s not the plan. Last edited on Fri Mar 6th, 2020 01:54 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 02:28 am PM Quote Reply 604th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Rumor is that Jake Roberts' "client" will be Luke Harper, whose non-compete expires in days and is almost surely going to AEW. Wasn't Lance Archer supposed to debut this week? It was assumed because they announced his signing, but it was never guaranteed. If they brought in Harper and Archer as a monster tag team with Roberts as their mouthpiece, I’d say sign me up. They would all work well together, but that’s not the plan. They already have 20 tag teams though. Jake should of been brought in as the Dark Order leader or a tease as the Dark Order leader. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 02:30 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 605th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Jake Roberts took to Twitter to call his Dynamite debut “one of the greatest moments of my life” and credited DDP for getting him the job, as well as for his continued sobriety. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 07:11 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 606th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW's post-Revolution show drew a very impressive 906,000 viewers, up almost 100,000 from the week before. So a very strong PPV with lots of positive buzz helped. NXT, in the meantime, remained completely flat. They had 718,000 viewers, almost exactly the same as the week before. This despite the fact that they advertised a double main event of 2 steel cage matches, and the week before had a special appearance from Charlotte Flair. Last edited on Fri Mar 6th, 2020 07:13 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 07:19 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 607th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW's post-Revolution show drew a very impressive 906,000 viewers, up almost 100,000 from the week before. So a very strong PPV with lots of positive buzz helped. NXT, in the meantime, remained completely flat. They had 718,000 viewers, almost exactly the same as the week before. This despite the fact that they advertised a double main event of 2 steel cage matches, and the week before had a special appearance from Charlotte Flair. What would be interesting to me is if USA told WWE that they didn't want NXT running live on the Network anymore, and then see what the ratings are. Because anybody who actually cares about this stuff watches AEW, then goes to the Network and watches NXT right after. That's not saying the 1.4M subscribers are all watching NXT, but WWE has the ability to see who's watching it live and they could report it if they chose to. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 07:50 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 608th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW's post-Revolution show drew a very impressive 906,000 viewers, up almost 100,000 from the week before. So a very strong PPV with lots of positive buzz helped. NXT, in the meantime, remained completely flat. They had 718,000 viewers, almost exactly the same as the week before. This despite the fact that they advertised a double main event of 2 steel cage matches, and the week before had a special appearance from Charlotte Flair. What would be interesting to me is if USA told WWE that they didn't want NXT running live on the Network anymore, and then see what the ratings are. Because anybody who actually cares about this stuff watches AEW, then goes to the Network and watches NXT right after. That's not saying the 1.4M subscribers are all watching NXT, but WWE has the ability to see who's watching it live and they could report it if they chose to. But I think you have to wait at least 48 hours before NXT gets uploaded to the Network. I DVR NXT and AEW is just about the only wrestling show that I usually watch live. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 09:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 609th Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW's post-Revolution show drew a very impressive 906,000 viewers, up almost 100,000 from the week before. So a very strong PPV with lots of positive buzz helped. NXT, in the meantime, remained completely flat. They had 718,000 viewers, almost exactly the same as the week before. This despite the fact that they advertised a double main event of 2 steel cage matches, and the week before had a special appearance from Charlotte Flair. What would be interesting to me is if USA told WWE that they didn't want NXT running live on the Network anymore, and then see what the ratings are. Because anybody who actually cares about this stuff watches AEW, then goes to the Network and watches NXT right after. That's not saying the 1.4M subscribers are all watching NXT, but WWE has the ability to see who's watching it live and they could report it if they chose to. But I think you have to wait at least 48 hours before NXT gets uploaded to the Network. I DVR NXT and AEW is just about the only wrestling show that I usually watch live. 24 Hrs..usually up by 8 pm Thursdays. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 11:00 pm PM Quote Reply 610th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: You are beautiful on the inside You are innocence personified And I will drag you down and sell you out Run away I am cold like December snow I have carved out this soul made of stone And I will drag you down and sell you out Embraced by the darkness, I’m losing the light Encircled by demons, I fight What have I become, now that I’ve betrayed Everyone I’ve ever loved, I pushed them all away And I have been a slave to the Judas in my mind Is there something left for me to save In the wreckage of my life, my life I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming Judas in, Judas in my mind I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming Judas in, Judas in my mind Judas in my mind Oh, this guilt is a heavy cross There is blood on the path I walk And each step I take is haunting me Embraced by the darkness, I’m losing the light Encircled by demons, I fight What have I become, now that I’ve betrayed Everyone I’ve ever loved, I pushed them all away And I have been a slave to the Judas in my mind Is there something left of me to save In the wreckage of my life, my life I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming Judas in, Judas in my mind I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming Judas in, Judas in my mind Judas in my mind Judas in my mind What have I become, now that I’ve betrayed Everyone I’ve ever loved, I pushed them all away And I have been a slave to the Judas in my mind Is there something left of me to save In the wreckage of my life, my life I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming Judas in, Judas in my mind I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming I’m becom-, I’m becom-, I’m becoming Judas in, Judas in my mind Judas in my mind Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2020 02:21 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 611th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: That's a good look for Nick Jackson under that overhead door. lol So Jake Roberts showed up with Lance Archer and both sat in the crowd watching the first tag match with Cody. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2020 03:08 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 612th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Whoever is in the control room directing the cameras for Britt Baker's interview should win an Emmy lol. This is great cheap heat. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2020 03:22 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 613th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Whoever is in the control room directing the cameras for Britt Baker's interview should win an Emmy lol. This is great cheap heat. Priceless crowd reactions and they found the perfect fat guy to cut to when she mentioned BMI. Funny when Baker and Swole busted each other on their husbands too. Last edited on Thu Mar 12th, 2020 03:23 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2020 10:59 am PM Quote Reply 614th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Here is a link to the new AEW Unrestricted podcast with Tony Schiavone. Not bad. So far, all shows average 55 minutes long. The latest guest is Tony Khan. <A HREF="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/turner-podcast-network/aew-unrestricted" TARGET="_blank">https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/turner-podcast-network/aew-unrestrictedA> Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Mar 18th, 2020 12:52 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 615th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: So AEW is is going ahead with their show tomorrow at a place called "Daily's Place" in Jacksonville Florida. They too will be having their show in front of no crowd. I assume they will be doing 'Dynamite' from there going forward until that gets shut down or until this virus is over with. It will be interesting. I'm thinking they will at least have a more entertaining show than what WWE has been doing at the PC. This will most certainly have an impact on the momentum they have been gaining. The last few shows were getting really better. I just wonder if those million and a half people who watch AEW and NXT every Wednesday night comes back when everything gets back to normal? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Mar 18th, 2020 01:18 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 616th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: So AEW is is going ahead with their show tomorrow at a place called "Daily's Place" in Jacksonville Florida. They too will be having their show in front of no crowd. I assume they will be doing 'Dynamite' from there going forward until that gets shut down or until this virus is over with. It will be interesting. I'm thinking they will at least have a more entertaining show than what WWE has been doing at the PC. This will most certainly have an impact on the momentum they have been gaining. The last few shows were getting really better. I just wonder if those million and a half people who watch AEW and NXT every Wednesday night comes back when everything gets back to normal? What else are people going to watch during this? Ratings shouldn’t go down. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Mar 18th, 2020 04:44 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 617th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: There was some confusion over what would happen at Dynamite tonight, but AEW has confirmed that there will be no fans in attendance. Before the situation got even worse, they had secured a small venue and were planning to charge a nominal fee of $10 to enter with that money going to a Coronavirus charity. Of course, that is off now as most places are on almost complete lockdown. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 02:12 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 618th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: That opening promo on Dynamite absolutely blew away anything WWE has done in 5 hours of empty arena nonsense. It helped so much that they talked to the camera and didn’t do their usual entrance last and point at fans not there, even as a joke. Awesome segment addressing the real world while putting over their angles. Perfectly done. They left WWE in the dust. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 02:17 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 619th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: Wrestlers in the crowd making noise lmao Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 02:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 620th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Wrestlers in the crowd making noise lmao And it works too, they’re doing a good job in the empty arena setting so far. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 02:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 621st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Wrestlers in the crowd making noise lmao And it works too, they’re doing a good job in the empty arena setting so far. It’s amazing. I’m not even noticing this isn’t a regular show. AEW has absolutely schooled WWE on how to do this. If this lasts 2 months AEW will be seen as the bigger brand by the time it’s over. This looks like a major league production and WWE just looks awful. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 02:35 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 622nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Best Friends go for the elbow tap instead of the hug. Classic. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 03:19 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 623rd Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: That Jungle Jack Perry appeared to suck a lot tonight. The finish was horrible. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 03:29 am PM Quote Reply 624th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: That opening promo on Dynamite absolutely blew away anything WWE has done in 5 hours of empty arena nonsense. It helped so much that they talked to the camera and didn’t do their usual entrance last and point at fans not there, even as a joke. Awesome segment addressing the real world while putting over their angles. Perfectly done. They left WWE in the dust. They leave WWE in the dust every fuckin week. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 03:34 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 625th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: AEW did it right. The wrestlers in the audience is great. WWE had the chance to get out ahead of this problem of no audience, but they blew it. Now AEW are out front. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 03:39 am PM Quote Reply 626th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: AEW did it right. The wrestlers in the audience is great. WWE had the chance to get out ahead of this problem of no audience, but they blew it. Now AEW are out front. I couldn't agree more. I'm loving this 6 man with the wrestlers in the crowd and Jericho on commentary! Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 03:43 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 627th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Brodie Lee getting stuck in a feud with Christopher Daniels in 2020 with a shitty gimmick on top of it is not good, but you never know I guess. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 03:47 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 628th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Brodie Lee getting stuck in a feud with Christopher Daniels in 2020 with a shitty gimmick on top of it is not good, but you never know I guess. Especially when Jake Roberts over shadows your debut with a killer promo and then to top it off a cool Lance Archer vignette. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 03:50 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 629th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: All the heel factions are so dark except MJF and Warlow. Lol at the end of the Archer vignette that little guy storming over to him with "I can take you on asshole", with Archer proceeding to bash his head into the hood of a car over and over. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 03:56 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 630th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Looks like Sammy and MJF cracked Jericho up legit during the entrance when they were singing. He had to turn his head away from the camera during a closeup. That was funny. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 04:06 am PM Quote Reply 631st Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: As usual, Jericho made the show with his great mic work. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 04:20 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 632nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Best show they've done imo and one of the most entertaining two hours in a long, long time. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 08:37 am PM Quote Reply 633rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Another really entertaining 2 hours of wrestling. Way better than SD and Raw obviously. One wonders how long they could keep this going if restrictions on social distancing get stricter. I think they know this as well, being as they specifically didn't say they would be back next week. Brandi is a way better ring announcer than Justin Roberts, because she just announces without any bullshit. She learned from Lilian Garcia, while Roberts sounds like a carnival barker. Cody's tattoo is still horrible, and given that his non-wrestling attire is a suit which hides half of it, was such a bad decision all round. It's amazing how much of a difference a crowd of 20 makes vs a crowd of 0. Maybe WWE can learn something for WrestleMinia. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 03:22 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 634th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Maybe the best AEW show yet. Just incredibly entertaining. I couldn’t believe how well they did this. Even the usually hit-or-miss captions for the wrestlers were home runs (Adam Page - “Social distancing since November”). The debuts of Lee and Hardy weren’t even affected by no crowd. AEW should hope that fans can’t return for a year and Vince will come crawling to them for help. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 05:18 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 635th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: you know what was blatantly noticeable last night which hasn't been noticeable in wrestling in a LONG time? All those guys were loving the hell out of what they were doing. They were having fun and it showed. I swear when I tune in WWE the last few years they all just look miserable.. btw, screw Matt Hardy's return, I was glad to see the return of Vanguard 1 ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 05:23 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 636th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: you know what was blatantly noticeable last night which hasn't been noticeable in wrestling in a LONG time? All those guys were loving the hell out of what they were doing. They were having fun and it showed. I swear when I tune in WWE the last few years they all just look miserable.. btw, screw Matt Hardy's return, I was glad to see the return of Vanguard 1 It helps when you can say whatever you want and aren’t terrified you will get yelled at for forgetting a line, and it really helps when you don’t have someone screaming at you backstage to continue to play to a non-existent crowd like Vince was doing because he’s hopelessly out of touch and unable to adapt at his age anymore. These guys went out there and did their thing, logically and with humor about the situation. No one was cowering in a corner that if they didn’t point at an imaginary fan and mindlessly recite “We’re here to put a smile on your face” that they would get berated. Last edited on Thu Mar 19th, 2020 05:24 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 08:41 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 637th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Another really entertaining 2 hours of wrestling. Way better than SD and Raw obviously. One wonders how long they could keep this going if restrictions on social distancing get stricter. I think they know this as well, being as they specifically didn't say they would be back next week. Brandi is a way better ring announcer than Justin Roberts, because she just announces without any bullshit. She learned from Lilian Garcia, while Roberts sounds like a carnival barker. Cody's tattoo is still horrible, and given that his non-wrestling attire is a suit which hides half of it, was such a bad decision all round. It's amazing how much of a difference a crowd of 20 makes vs a crowd of 0. Maybe WWE can learn something for WrestleMinia. You are absolutely right about Brandi. It's no secret that I am not a fan of Roberts, he's terrible. Ring announcing would be the perfect job for Brandi, plus she could still be by her husband's side as well. Lol at Cody's tattoo. He must be getting ribbed non-stop by "the boys" over it. I just want to say again how freaking great Sammy G. was singing Jericho's entrance music. Him and MJF singing together there for a second was priceless and it even popped Jericho as he looked over at them and had to turn his head away from the camera because he was trying not to burst out laughing. I hear and read a lot online that a lot of the older wrestlers get a bit of scuttlebutt of what's going on behind the scenes there and they all say the majority of the young guys have no interest in any of the knowledge that the veterans have to give...I think we can guess who they are. Basically the whole tag team division. To me though it looks like Sammy G., MJF and Darby are the ones looking like the next big stars to hit it really big. All three just seem to improve more and more every time I see them. Not so much from the others. This is just my thinking, as I have nothing to back this up, but it wouldn't surprise me if Jericho is spending a lot of time sharing knowledge with Sammy. I think Jericho sees a lot in him. It wouldn't surprise me if the three guys I listed are the three guys who sit and listen to what the veterans have to say the most. Those three are going to make a lot of money during their careers. I'd like to add Jungle Jack to that list, but I'm still not totally sold on him yet. I'm sure I will be proven wrong and I hope I am.I gotta check out some interviews with him on YouTube. Has he done Jericho's, J.R.'s or any of the other podcasts? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 09:02 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 638th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: “Lol at Cody's tattoo. He must be getting ribbed non-stop by "the boys" over it.” Jericho said it looked like Xcalibur finger painted on his neck while drunk, or something similar. Jericho was on fire last night. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 10:37 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 639th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Dave Scherer loved last night's Dynamite too. PWInsider: Under extremely trying circumstances, last night’s episode of AEW Dynamite may have been the best show in company history. It came at a time when I, and many other wrestling fans, needed a fun distraction. Thank you Tony Khan for giving it to us. They did a lot of things right on the show last night, and it gave a feeling of normalcy that has been missing for the last week or so as more and more of the world goes on what is basically lockdown. Let’s take a look at some of the things they did really right last night, while being mindful of whether they will be able to do it again in the near future. They delivered the fun. From Cody’s awesome promo to start the show to Matt Hardy’s debut at the end, AEW was by far the funnest show of the no audience era so far (and there are reasons for that that we will get into below). The wrestling was crisp and with the wrestlers in the audience, they complemented the announcers with enough noise to seem like we were actually watching a wrestling show. The idea of having MJF and Shawn Spears betting on the matches was a great way to get them in earshot. Throughout the evening, more and more people came out and made more and more noise. That just added to the fun. It could very well have come at a cost though. They showed that they are past the point of the crowd needing to enhance the show. When the company started, as anyone with a modicum of sense would expect, they had their growing pains. Some weeks the show was good, some weeks not so much. But the one constant that they had in their corner was their amazing crowd. They added so much to every show and made it seem like an event that needed to be seen. Last night, they did not have the element of their show to lean on last night and they made it clear, they didn’t need it. On last week’s FMB, Mike Epsenhart and I talked about how AEW as a company, and Tony Khan as a head booker, have found their groove and that was on full display last night. The stories they are telling now are very interesting to me, to the point I have actually gotten a VPN service so I can watch the PPVs at a reasonable price. That is a huge compliment. They have also done a good job in developing new stars. I give them a lot of credit for that. Matt’s debut was great. For a while now, we all wondered what Matt would do when his WWE contract expired. It always seemed to me that he wanted to actually wrestle and he wouldn’t get the opportunity to really do what he wanted in WWE or NXT. Then when he came out to face off with Randy Orton on Raw, it was clear to me by the shape he was in that he was going to go somewhere and put that to use. I believe him when he said he thought about it long and hard but I said a while ago I thought he would end up in AEW, where he could truly perform the way that he wants to perform. I am really happy that he will get that opportunity. He did such a great job creating Broken Matt in Impact, only to have it wasted in WWE. So, I was really happy to see the appearance of Vanguard 1. I legitimately popped for it. Now Matt has the chance to really take it somewhere. I am excited to see that play out. I am also really glad that it won’t be as the leader of The Dark Order. Brodie Lee debuted as well, and I was very happy to see him. We all knew it was a matter of when Lee would appear for AEW and last night was the night. Above I said I am glad that Hardy is not the leader of the Dark Order, but I am glad Lee is. Hardy is an established commodity and belongs in the main event slot he debuted in last night. It would be a waste to make Matt the leader, but it’s a golden opportunity to establish Lee and take him to the next level. WWE never seemed to know what to with him. I don’t think AEW will make that mistake. Lee has a lot to offer. Jake Roberts/Lance Archer’s vignette was great. Jake’s promo was great (I know, big shocker coming from him). The vignette where Archer destroyed all comers was really cool too, an innovative. There is definitely a lot of old school in what AEW does, and this is an element that I really love about what they do. This is the kind of wrestling from the past that definitely has a place in 2020 (unlike, say, unprotected chairshots to the head). But here’s the thing, was it a one time only event? Clearly, AEW violated a number of the rules in place right now for the pandemic (and clearly all of wrestling will as you can’t work someone and stay six feet away from them, unless maybe you are Orange Cassidy selling imaginary moves). Obviously, social distancing is impossible given the nature of the business. But clearly the “groups of ten people or more” rule was thrown out the window. Last week I asked numerous WWE sources why they didn’t have some employees or trainees in the seats at the PC to make some noise during the matches. They all said the same thing, they were not allowed. They couldn’t have people in the crowd and they had to perform in front of an empty area. WWE is not under the radar the way that AEW is (or maybe was) so they can’t violate rules. They are also publicly traded while AEW isn’t. As Mike reported on the site last night, it’s clear AEW realizes that what they did last night may be a one time only thing. The city or state or TNT itself may say you can’t do that again. That is why all of the graphics didn’t say “next week” when they talked about upcoming matches. And it’s also really clear that War Ga…..er Blood and Guts has been postponed. As it should be. That spectacle should take place in front of a rabid crowd, not an empty building. My hope is that they will be able to do next week’s show exactly as they did last night’s but like the company itself, I am not taking that for granted. So, if that was their last show until the situation gets better, they left us on a super high note, and I appreciate the hell out of that. Thanks AEW. What WWE can learn from this. As I said last night, AEW had the best show yet since the no audience edict started last week. And unlike Raw and Smackdown, they had a lot of actual new wrestling on the show. What they showed us is it can be done. What it showed me was that crowd noise is something WWE HAS to make a part of their shows, in some shape of form. Crowd noise adds to the spectacle of wrestling. Personally, I don’t really look at the fans to hear their noise, if you know what I mean. The noise is what’s important. They need to start piping that in, and luckily for them in that scenario they can also give the desired reaction to segments since they will have complete control. They also need should put up a mini-tron since it makes the show more of a spectacle. In a lot of ways, they should kind of approach presenting TV like doing a video game. If they can CGI fans into the seats, all the better. But it’s crystal clear after last night they need crowd noise to add to the product. It’s a must. Thanks for reading. During these trying times, I am blessed to be able to sit down at my keyboard and crank out content. I appeciate all of you who read this for making that happen. I hope we can give you a diversion during these trying times and much like AEW did for me last night, give you a sense of normalcy as we fight to get back to normal life. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2020 10:57 pm PM Quote Reply 640th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: CGI fans and piped in crowd noise? Is he high? Last edited on Thu Mar 19th, 2020 10:58 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 12:45 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 641st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Dave Scherer loved last night's Dynamite too. PWInsider: Thanks for reading. During these trying times, I am blessed to be able to sit down at my keyboard and crank out content. I appeciate all of you who read this for making that happen. I hope we can give you a diversion during these trying times and much like AEW did for me last night, give you a sense of normalcy as we fight to get back to normal life. As opposed to what Dave, sitting on a stool in your shower cranking that content out? Or how about your toilet? CGI Lol, and like I posted in a thread somewhere here a week or two ago, they can pipe in that old crowd noise track they used on 'WCW Saturday Night' back in the early to middle nineties. Dave "Wanker" Scherer has to be the worst of these so called "wrestling journalists". I'm disappointed in you srossi in posting Dave Scherer's take on last night's show. Like that means anything. He is just another fan posting is opinion like the rest of us. I value your opinion ten times over to what Scherer thinks about anything. You should write a blog rossi, every Thursday here giving your thoughts and opinion on 'Dynamite'. You have more time to do it during your work day since you are working from home now. Since AEW has renewed a lot of lapsed fans here at S&W I think it's time to bring back "From Under My Yankees Cap". I'm actually serious about that and not ribbing either, I care what all you guys here think of the show than those "journalists". I always check here first for a review of a show and to see if I missed anything. So how about it rossi, you up for resurrecting your review column?You post enough here anyway that it won't take any extra time. Last edited on Fri Mar 20th, 2020 12:47 am by carpetbeggar Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 01:18 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 642nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Well I skimmed the first couple of points and agreed with them, so I posted the whole thing. Scherer went off the rails a bit towards the end, and I’m not a big fan of his since I’ve started seeing some of his tweets, but I have followed him since the 1wrestling.com days. Anyway, I thought if would be an interesting read. It was “The Rossi Report” and I had forgotten that I signed off with “From under my Yankees cap”. That didn’t last long, just long enough for Vince Fahay and CM to steal my Ric Flair career biography for KM, but that’s a different story. I used to live-blog the PPVs and some TV on the boards, but that was when there were a lot more posters and the product was better. I honestly got bored when it would be only me and 1 or 2 others commenting, and then I almost completely stopped watching any wrestling live and I didn’t think anyone would want to read it 2 days later. But on OSW those threads could sometimes be a lot of fun. Dynamite is the only show I still watch semi-life (usually same night on a delay until I catch up with my DVR, but it’s so great I often don’t catch up because there’s not much to fast forward through). So maybe I can try to do almost-live thoughts of that show next week. Last edited on Fri Mar 20th, 2020 01:19 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 02:53 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 643rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Well I skimmed the first couple of points and agreed with them, so I posted the whole thing. Scherer went off the rails a bit towards the end, and I’m not a big fan of his since I’ve started seeing some of his tweets, but I have followed him since the 1wrestling.com days. Anyway, I thought if would be an interesting read. It was “The Rossi Report” and I had forgotten that I signed off with “From under my Yankees cap”. That didn’t last long, just long enough for Vince Fahay and CM to steal my Ric Flair career biography for KM, but that’s a different story. I used to live-blog the PPVs and some TV on the boards, but that was when there were a lot more posters and the product was better. I honestly got bored when it would be only me and 1 or 2 others commenting, and then I almost completely stopped watching any wrestling live and I didn’t think anyone would want to read it 2 days later. But on OSW those threads could sometimes be a lot of fun. Dynamite is the only show I still watch semi-life (usually same night on a delay until I catch up with my DVR, but it’s so great I often don’t catch up because there’s not much to fast forward through). So maybe I can try to do almost-live thoughts of that show next week. Yeah I remember back ion the old days and you doing the live blog for PPV's. But yeah there were definitely a lot more posters interested back then and yes I remember them being a lot of fun. I wonder if 'Heretic' still lurks around here. I know there was some controversy when he quit posting. Usually 'Big J' was always good for a couple posts here every year, but he has disappeared along with his friend 'Amerorig'.I miss the Culver Clan and my heart still yearns for Tornado\Hitman. LMFAO. What a rig he was. But as far as 'Dynamite', I do hope they can fly under the radar and continue to do shows like they did last night for the foreseeable future. If not then they will come up with something clever I am sure. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 09:41 am PM Quote Reply 644th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Ratings from Wednesday night: AEW: 932,000 NXT: 542,000 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 04:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 645th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Ratings from Wednesday night: AEW: 932,000 NXT: 542,000 Interesting, so it's the same people million and a half watching again this week. Last edited on Fri Mar 20th, 2020 04:04 pm by carpetbeggar Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 04:05 pm PM Quote Reply 646th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Ratings from Wednesday night: AEW: 932,000 NXT: 542,000 Interesting, so AEW didn't increase any and NXT lost a couple hundred thousand. What's the WOR spin on this? Meltzer has said over the past few weeks that the younger AEW viewership watch the news and political debates more than the older WWE/NXT fans, and also are less concerned with watching AEW live over DVR or on-demand streaming. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 04:09 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 647th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Ratings from Wednesday night: AEW: 932,000 NXT: 542,000 Interesting, so it's the same people million and a half watching again this week. I've seen a lot of sites going with the narrative that AEW CRUSHES NXT this week. It's the same people million and a half watching both shows week after week. Weren't the wrestling shows supposed to be getting more viewers now that there wasn't any sports on? There is no Wednesday night war. It's a narrative pushed by the dirt sheets to sell more subs. Bring in some new eyeballs. That's the real war. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 04:13 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 648th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Ratings from Wednesday night: AEW: 932,000 NXT: 542,000 Interesting, so AEW didn't increase any and NXT lost a couple hundred thousand. What's the WOR spin on this? Meltzer has said over the past few weeks that the younger AEW viewership watch the news and political debates more than the older WWE/NXT fans, and also are less concerned with watching AEW live over DVR or on-demand streaming. Dear lord. Meltzer is a straight up special needs case. I've never seen a guy try and come up with so many excuses. I get it, we all want AEW to succeed, but shouldn't the actual "journalists" be a bit more non-biased? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 07:34 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 649th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: Meltzer is a tard. And while these days ALMOST 1 million viewers for something isn't actually that bad at all, it DOES have to be concerning for AEW that mo matter what they do they can't actually crack 1 million live viewers.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 09:35 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 650th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Ratings from Wednesday night: AEW: 932,000 NXT: 542,000 Interesting, so AEW didn't increase any and NXT lost a couple hundred thousand. What's the WOR spin on this? Meltzer has said over the past few weeks that the younger AEW viewership watch the news and political debates more than the older WWE/NXT fans, and also are less concerned with watching AEW live over DVR or on-demand streaming. Dear lord. Meltzer is a straight up special needs case. I've never seen a guy try and come up with so many excuses. I get it, we all want AEW to succeed, but shouldn't the actual "journalists" be a bit more non-biased? Hard to be biased when you're on the payroll. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 21st, 2020 04:43 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 651st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: The following message is from #AEW President & CEO Tony Khan... Our goal every week with AEW Dynamite on TNT is to produce great shows for our fans, and I believe we do. We felt especially motivated to serve our audience this past Wednesday night given what the entire world is coping with, and hopefully we gave them a well-deserved escape during these trying times. Everyone at AEW is very proud of what we delivered and humbled by the response and the kind words we’ve received from fans and partners throughout the world. Thank you! We plan to continue answering that calling with live weekly shows every Wednesday night on TNT, but the time and circumstances aren’t right for the card we had planned next week for Blood and Guts. That show will happen when the time is right, but what you can count on instead this coming Wednesday night is a great live episode of AEW Dynamite featuring Chris Jericho confronting Matt Hardy, face-to-face, one-on-one, for the first time ever and a tremendous night of wrestling action. In the meantime, until AEW Dynamite this Wednesday night, please follow us via social media and please be safe and smart so we can get back to seeing you all on the road as soon as possible. Thank you for making this all possible for everyone here at AEW, it’s a dream come true to be able to do these shows for all of you. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2020 12:04 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 652nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tony Khan announced that AEW Dark will be a double episode this week with some struggling indy talents who lost bookings on the show. That’s a really cool thing for them to do. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 02:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 653rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: So it looks like JR and Excalibur got to stay home? It's the first time I've seen that guy who wrestled Cody on 'Dynamite' in a long time. LOL I forgot his name and can't be bothered googling it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 04:42 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 654th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: It's the first time I've seen that guy who wrestled Cody on 'Dynamite' in a long time. LOL I forgot his name and can't be bothered googling it. Jimmy Havoc ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 06:22 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 655th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: I’ve only seen the first half of the show but no guys standing and cheering ringside this week. That made all the difference last week and while AEW is still doing better than WWE at the crowd less shows, not having those 15-20 guys to show every so often took this weeks show down a notch. I’m guessing this was in effort to only send the essential guys to the show and not have any unnecessary travel, which is no fault of AEW given the current world conditions. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 12:30 pm PM Quote Reply 656th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Is Brodie Lee channelling Vince McMahon with his new gimmick? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 01:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 657th Post Ed Lock Joined: Fri Jan 4th, 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 232 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Is Brodie Lee channelling Vince McMahon with his new gimmick? G'day Kriss I believe that Vince loves good cow on his plate and hates people sneezing. Cheers mate! Ed Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 02:50 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 658th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: I’ve only seen the first half of the show but no guys standing and cheering ringside this week. That made all the difference last week and while AEW is still doing better than WWE at the crowd less shows, not having those 15-20 guys to show every so often took this weeks show down a notch. I’m guessing this was in effort to only send the essential guys to the show and not have any unnecessary travel, which is no fault of AEW given the current world conditions. I barely noticed the empty arena again. Maybe not quite as good as last week, but I thought they handled it great again. WWE does too since they've copied some of the things AEW is doing, but the PC just doesn't come across as well even when they shift the hard cam away from the empty chairs. AEW still seems like they're doing a normal show to me. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 03:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 659th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: I’ve only seen the first half of the show but no guys standing and cheering ringside this week. That made all the difference last week and while AEW is still doing better than WWE at the crowd less shows, not having those 15-20 guys to show every so often took this weeks show down a notch. I’m guessing this was in effort to only send the essential guys to the show and not have any unnecessary travel, which is no fault of AEW given the current world conditions. I barely noticed the empty arena again. Maybe not quite as good as last week, but I thought they handled it great again. WWE does too since they've copied some of the things AEW is doing, but the PC just doesn't come across as well even when they shift the hard cam away from the empty chairs. AEW still seems like they're doing a normal show to me. I think more than anything I enjoyed watching and listening to the heels boo the baby faces and bet on the matches as they cut to them during the matches, and of course Sammy singing along to Judas. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 02:40 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 660th Post BuddyPSHayes Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Anywhere I Damn Well Please Posts: 4320 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: So it looks like JR and Excalibur got to stay home? It's the first time I've seen that guy who wrestled Cody on 'Dynamite' in a long time. LOL I forgot his name and can't be bothered googling it. JR is 68 and has other health issues, so I imagine he's being kept home as a precaution. ____________________ "The only area I can think of to avoid in Houston is Houston." - srossi Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 03:06 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 661st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: The Brodie Lee segment mocking Vince was as great as anything AEW has ever done, and according to Meltzer, it really bothered Vince a lot, which makes it even better. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 03:33 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 662nd Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Brodie Lee segment mocking Vince was as great as anything AEW has ever done, and according to Meltzer, it really bothered Vince a lot, which makes it even better. Wonder on who's idea it was to do that segment? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 06:27 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 663rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW wins again but it was much closer than last week when NXT was completely taped, 819,000 to 669,000. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 12:53 pm PM Quote Reply 664th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW wins again but it was much closer than last week when NXT was completely taped, 819,000 to 669,000. Incredible, because NXT really blows right now. That Full Sail crowd deserve to be paid for how they make that show so much better. We had two different women crying their eyes out because of an injury within 60 seconds. Who is writing this bullshit? They introduced a new tag team, with a new manager, who says "allow me to introduce you to the future of the NXT tag team division." Then..... segment ends. Who are they??? Even was the commentators referring to these two complete unknowns as superstars. When everyone is a superstar, no one is a superstars. Last edited on Fri Mar 27th, 2020 01:32 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 03:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 665th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW wins again but it was much closer than last week when NXT was completely taped, 819,000 to 669,000. Incredible, because NXT really blows right now. That Full Sail crowd deserve to be paid for how they make that show so much better. We had two different women crying their eyes out because of an injury within 60 seconds. Who is writing this bullshit? They introduced a new tag team, with a new manager, who says "allow me to introduce you to the future of the NXT tag team division." Then..... segment ends. Who are they??? Even was the commentators referring to these two complete unknowns as superstars. When everyone is a superstar, no one is a superstars. The crying really stood out to me too. I immediately thought, "Way to make your females look strong when every time one of them gets hurt they have a complete breakdown. Who can take them seriously now? They would never have any of the men crying over an injury." In the first case with the broken nose, that was a legit injury and I think real backstage footage. Her crying about just wanting to go home was pathetic, and probably real, and never should've been aired. The second one was obviously 100% work. The fact that I can't tell you the names of either chick is another issue. The NXT roster has gotten too big with some talent that you don't see for months, and can't possibly relate to. The new manager Malcolm Bivens is Stokely Hathaway from ROH and EVOLVE. He will do well if given the opportunity. No idea who the tag team is. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 03:28 pm PM Quote Reply 666th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The new manager Malcolm Bivens is Stokely Hathaway from ROH and EVOLVE. He will do well if given the opportunity. No idea who the tag team is. I know who they are, but I had to look it up. When you say "allow me to present..." you should at least give the guys names. The broken nose woman was Aliyah, who they have been trying to bet over since day one of NXT, and she is just about a passable JTTS now. The Chinese one who was crying like a 5 year old who has fallen over in the school yard is Mia Yim, who I think is pretty decent. She's the one who gets to enter the Royal Rumble because she is the only passable Chinese worker they have. Last edited on Fri Mar 27th, 2020 03:30 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 04:38 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 667th Post kargol Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Brum, United Kingdom Posts: 5565 Status: Offline Mana: She's not Chinese, she's half-Korean. I tend to go by the method that the hotter an Asian woman is, the more likely it is that she's Korean. ____________________ superfunkymean Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 04:44 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 668th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The new manager Malcolm Bivens is Stokely Hathaway from ROH and EVOLVE. He will do well if given the opportunity. No idea who the tag team is. I know who they are, but I had to look it up. When you say "allow me to present..." you should at least give the guys names. The broken nose woman was Aliyah, who they have been trying to bet over since day one of NXT, and she is just about a passable JTTS now. The Chinese one who was crying like a 5 year old who has fallen over in the school yard is Mia Yim, who I think is pretty decent. She's the one who gets to enter the Royal Rumble because she is the only passable Chinese worker they have. I know Mia Yim and I didn’t think that was her. She looked different. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 05:36 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 669th Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: It was Xia Le, the Chinese wrestler. ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 05:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 670th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: It was Xia Le, the Chinese wrestler. That makes more sense. I'm just going to assume that Kriss is racist and thinks all Asian people look a like. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 05:44 pm PM Quote Reply 671st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: It was Xia Le, the Chinese wrestler. That makes more sense. I'm just going to assume that Kriss is racist and thinks all Asian people look a like. Haha. I completely meant Xia Le. No idea why I typed Mia Yim. I guess I am racist. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2020 01:30 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 672nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW will hold an 8-man tournament starting this week to crown the first TNT champion. It’s an interesting way to keep interest during the empty arena shows and I’ll be curious if they keep the title going long after the crisis is over. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2020 12:43 pm PM Quote Reply 673rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW will hold an 8-man tournament starting this week to crown the first TNT champion. It’s an interesting way to keep interest during the empty arena shows and I’ll be curious if they keep the title going long after the crisis is over. It would be cool to introduce a "Beat the Champ" style title that has to be defended every week. AEW doesn't suffer from meaningless matches nearly as much as NXT does, but it's an easy way to fill 15 minutes every week. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 02:23 pm PM Quote Reply 674th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: The undisclosed location that AEW taped from this week was QT Marshall's gym/wrestling school in Norcross, Georgia. They taped all day Tuesday and Wednesday and have enough footage to last until mid-May. Apparently the police showed up, but AEW were following all the regulations and restrictions at the time. Since then, Georgia has announced a shelter-at-home policy, so if they want to go live next week, they would need to find somewhere else. I have a feeling that they already taped stuff like the new title tournament, and the empty arena match announced for two weeks time. On a side note, I thought this week's show was poor by AEW standards. The matches meant nothing whatsoever, the only thing worth watching really was the Jericho/Vanguard 1 skit and the Brodie Lee skit. The wrestling was good as usual, but as I've said before, good wrestling is standard today. Some people loved Omega/Trent but didn't think it was anything special, just good wrestling. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 03:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 675th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: The undisclosed location that AEW taped from this week was QT Marshall's gym/wrestling school in Norcross, Georgia. Well that explains how QT Marshall of all people is getting TV time but guys like Janela, Sabian, etc. can't. He has to be the most bizarre member of that roster. Just totally out of place. He is best known as an ROH jobber and now he's in a tag team with Dustin Rhodes? Last edited on Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 03:11 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 06:12 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 676th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: The undisclosed location that AEW taped from this week was QT Marshall's gym/wrestling school in Norcross, Georgia. Well that explains how QT Marshall of all people is getting TV time but guys like Janela, Sabian, etc. can't. He has to be the most bizarre member of that roster. Just totally out of place. He is best known as an ROH jobber and now he's in a tag team with Dustin Rhodes? Brother QT will turn on the Rhodes brothers eventually, becoming a "disciple" of the Dark Order and will face Cody in the main event of "All In". Brother Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2020 06:44 pm PM Quote Reply 677th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: AEW did 685,000. A drop of about 130,000 from last week. NXT did 590,000. A drop of about 119,000 from last week. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2020 08:48 am PM Quote Reply 678th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: AEW did 685,000. A drop of about 130,000 from last week. NXT did 590,000. A drop of about 119,000 from last week. Just stared watching this week's NXT. Sam. Fucking. Roberts. They really aren't even trying now. And Dexter Lumis gets his re-debut in this environment? And he really blew. It's funny when old-timey wrestlers would always say that there was no such thing as a rest-hold, and it was all about working the crowd. Well, Dexter, my friend, there was no crowd to work, so what the fuck were you doing? Both shows were poor this week, I'm not surprised the ratings were down. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2020 04:30 am PM Quote Reply 679th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Fucking Jake Roberts is fucking awesome! He's a keeper for AEW as long as he stays sober (alcohol and weed only). Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2020 03:50 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 680th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Chris Jericho on commentary with Schiavone was gold. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2020 04:38 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 681st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Britt Baker is really coming into her own. She was so bad and so nervous those first few weeks, but I'm digging her heel character now and her match with Shida last night was one of the better women's matches that AEW has done. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2020 05:17 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 682nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Just finished last night's show. So enjoyable. Loved all of it. They kept it light, hilarious commentary, some fun spots, a couple of squashes, and some great matches. AEW is firing on all cylinders during a pandemic while I'm begging WWE to just shit down until this is over. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2020 12:42 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 683rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I missed a lot of the best parts of the show last night and didn't record it. I missed Jake, so what did he have to say this week? I also missed that Britt Baker match, although I caught her postmatch promo and I thought she sounded great. Tony and Chris were really great together on commentary. It's good to know that they are willing to try different combinations of wrestlers and announcers out together. I wish they would do away with The Dark Order. I would rather see Brodie Lee keep away from that angle. It's too bad Lance Archer and him debuted basically at the same time because both I think would do well in the big ass-kicker role...well Lance is showing us he can right now. I don't like Jake with him though. Jake being the size he is, takes away from Lance and how big a man he is. If he needs a manager, I think a smaller guy would be better suited to attenuate his look and size. Actually Jake could have probably made the Dark Order interesting and well...Dark. Seeing Brodie Lee parody Vince McMahon every week will kinda get old in a hurry, at least with me. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2020 12:54 pm PM Quote Reply 684th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I'd say Brodie Lee is playing a character based on Vince McMahon rather than parodying him. It's not being played for laughs, and it doesn't require you to know anything about McMahon for it still to work. I have no problems with it. This week's AEW blew away NXT again. I'll be interesting to see how the viewing figures held up for a one hour empty arena match with no commentary. I thought it was almost unwatchable. It didn't hold my attention until the last two or three minutes. A sad end to such a fantastic feud. Notice that AEW haven't done any gimmick matches recently, while WWE just threw this and a ladder match onto a show three days after we all just watched a ladder match and painfully dull brawl round the arena at WM. There needs to be some fun added to these shows with no audience, and NXT was not fun at all, while AEW was great. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2020 03:34 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 685th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Based on NXT advertising Takeover makes, they won the night in a squeaker 693,000 to 692,000. The show was abysmal though and Gargano and Ciampa deserved so much better as the blow-off to their feud. I can’t imagine anyone tuning in again next week if that was the best NXT could deliver. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2020 10:22 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 686th Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: See I enjoyed NXT more than AEW. The tag match in AEW really wasn't my thing. Cody/Spears was decent/good, but nobody thought Spears had a chance in hell of winning. I did like the women's match but that was about it- although the commentary was pretty enjoyable. I thought NXT had the better in ring work and story. But to each their own. I'm just glad there is still some live wrestling to watch. ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2020 09:34 pm PM Quote Reply 687th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: This week's Be the Elite is mostly a 15 minute match between Matt and Nick Jackson. As far as these wacky corona-era matches go, this is one of the better ones. <A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tElWHOWJRWs" TARGET="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tElWHOWJRWsA> ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2020 06:06 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 688th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: This week's Be the Elite is mostly a 15 minute match between Matt and Nick Jackson. As far as these wacky corona-era matches go, this is one of the better ones. <A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tElWHOWJRWs" TARGET="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tElWHOWJRWsA> That was pretty good. If you're into the cinematic matches, that was better than any of the things WWE did for WM. Loved the Barber Shop re-enactment with Nick putting Matt through the window, and then the other HBK call-back with "I'm sorry, I love you." After the match, the 5-minute retrospective on the last 200 episodes of BTE was awesome. That was a must-see episode. They should've just put that whole thing on Dynamite. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2020 02:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 689th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Unmentioned throughout the Coronavirus era is the fact that Tony Schiavone and Chris Jericho have become far and away the best commentary team in all of wrestling in the last 10 years easy, if not longer. I love that AEW saw their chemistry early and just kept them together. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2020 02:55 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 690th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: The Manitoba Melee. Brilliant. Lou Ferigno, Corey Taylor, Duff McKagen, Jay & Silent Bob, Gabriel Iglesias, and tons of other celebrities involved. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2020 05:38 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 691st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: If you enjoyed the last few weeks of AEW Dynamite, including tonight's episode, the shows taped in Georgia were all written by AEW President Tony Khan. The word making the rounds is that Khan, realizing that he was going to have a very small crew due to shut-in rulings around the country, sat down and wrote the last four weeks of TV on the fly at once by himself in a matter of minutes, built around the TNT Championship tournament and the local talents that were available. It was very much a "trial by fire" moment where Khan and his crew had to quickly pivot and come up with something that could work to further company storylines and utilize their reduced resources in terms of crew and talent. Obviously, if you watched Dynamite the last few weeks, you can see that the plan paid off, as the shows have been extremely strong every week, especially given the fact that they were using about 1/3rd of their contracted talent. The tapings had been built around the idea of presenting them similar in nature to old territorial TV (but with AEW's spin on things) as Khan was a huge fan of Memphis and Continental, among other similar promotions. We are told that Cody was very instrumental in helping put things together as Khan's right hand and has been very hands on with not only his own programs but with helping others. Chris Jericho has also gotten a ton of praise for all his work on commentary (which he did off the top of his head with less than 24 hours' notice that he'd be needed in the role) and with putting together the vignettes for the Inner Circle. Orange Cassidy and The Best Friends have also gotten a lot of praise internally for their work as they wrestled four times over 24 hours for those tapings and pretty much everyone who was involved, including the enhancement talent, was said to have put in a ton of work to make everything click. It was described to me as a big bonding experience for the talents who were in Georgia. Many of the enhancement talents were brought in by QT Marshall. AEW will return to live programming next week with the return of a number of performers, including AEW Champion Jon Moxley, who will face Kazarian. Last week, during my interview with Moxley, I asked him to compare pitching ideas between Tony Khan and Vince McMahon and how they react. Moxley commented, " He's really good dude, man. I think he's a friend to a most everybody in the roster. Real easy and approachable, and not in a bad way. A lot of people probably at first wanted to be like, oh, he wants to hang out with the wrestlers. He's just going to be one of those too friendly with the boys type guys. But he's not that at all. I mean, right now he's worked in analytics for the NFL draft and doing all this other business stuff. I mean, he's a really smart guy. He grew up in that family where they have this empire. So he's got a lot of business sense. He's business savvy, but also just an incredibly passionate wrestling fan. He's so easy to get excited, if I go up like, "Dude, I got this idea. What if we did this?" And he'd be like, "Dude, that's awesome. What if we did this then? And then we can do that." And he'll get all excited like a little kid. And I'll be like, "Hold on, tone it down. Tone it down." Which is cool. You want that. Whereas sometimes, I come in and talk to Vince and I'm all excited. I'm like, "Dude, okay, here we go. We're going to do this, this, this. Then this. Then we do this on Raw. And then on pay-per-view this. What do you think?" And it's like talking to a door. Dude, hello, I'm giving you awesome. They're like, nope. We're just going to do the same old crap we always do. I'm like, whatever. But yeah, it's a real good experience where I am. [Khan]'s an honest dude. He's not a carny, and even though he's business savvy, he's not like a shark. He's just an honest, straightforward, good dude." Matt Hardy will also return next week. There are lots of plans to utilize the Broken Universe in the days ahead. Hardy will team with Kenny Omega vs. Sammy Guevara and Chris Jericho. Cody vs. Joey Janela is also scheduled for next week's Dynamite. The 5/23 Double or Nothing PPV will most likely be on a closed set from Jacksonville, Florida. Internally, the hope is to make things up to the Las Vegas fans with the 2021 edition of the PPV. AEW not being on the road has been an understandable frustration, since they were looking at the biggest crowd (and gate) in the history of the company for the now-postponed Newark, NJ Dynamite taping, but the feeling is that it's out of their hands given the state of the world at the moment. Since we have gotten emails about this, it should be noted that a number of Dynamite episodes are available for streaming for free at Bleacher Report Live. Anna Jay, the company's newest signing, had only worked seven matches when she appeared on AEW TV earlier this month. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2020 06:29 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 692nd Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Manitoba Melee. Brilliant. Lou Ferigno, Corey Taylor, Duff McKagen, Jay & Silent Bob, Gabriel Iglesias, and tons of other celebrities involved. Yeah that was great lol ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2020 08:24 am PM Quote Reply 693rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Another good AEW, for 90 mins. That main event was painfully slow. They didn't need any more than 10 mins for that punch-kick WWE-style bullshit. And I really don't need to see blood in HD in 2020. I know a lot of you guys think it adds to the match, but in this match? As Jericho pointed out, you couldn't tell what was blood and what was face paint. It also had me thinking that doctors have better things to do at the moment than stitch up old-timey carneys. I know they always have a doctor anyway, but it was the first thing that came to my mind. It's a shame, because the lasting memory of any wrestling show is the final match/segment and this empty area era has been defined by main events that were planned to be epic and ended up being long and boring. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2020 08:47 am PM Quote Reply 694th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: It appears, although they still are all under contract, that mouthpieces Jake Roberts, Arn Anderson, and Tully Blanchard are no longer being booked due to the social distancing I guess? That sucks if true. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2020 09:45 am PM Quote Reply 695th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: It appears, although they still are all under contract, that mouthpieces Jake Roberts, Arn Anderson, and Tully Blanchard are no longer being booked due to the social distancing I guess? That sucks if true. Roberts has done a promo to camera every week except this week. The other two have done nothing in AEW of any consequence, even when they were on camera. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2020 11:11 am PM Quote Reply 696th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: It appears, although they still are all under contract, that mouthpieces Jake Roberts, Arn Anderson, and Tully Blanchard are no longer being booked due to the social distancing I guess? That sucks if true. Roberts has done a promo to camera every week except this week. The other two have done nothing in AEW of any consequence, even when they were on camera. I kinda like Arn's Andy Reid impression myself. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2020 03:48 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 697th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Another good AEW, for 90 mins. That main event was painfully slow. They didn't need any more than 10 mins for that punch-kick WWE-style bullshit. And I really don't need to see blood in HD in 2020. I know a lot of you guys think it adds to the match, but in this match? As Jericho pointed out, you couldn't tell what was blood and what was face paint. It also had me thinking that doctors have better things to do at the moment than stitch up old-timey carneys. I know they always have a doctor anyway, but it was the first thing that came to my mind. It's a shame, because the lasting memory of any wrestling show is the final match/segment and this empty area era has been defined by main events that were planned to be epic and ended up being long and boring. At this stage of both of their careers, Archer should've beaten Dustin rather quickly in the first round. They're overdoing the "he's got heart" gimmick with Dustin. Bouncing back again and again in a 20+ minute match against Archer, who is new to the company and is getting put over like crazy as "The Murderhawk" doesn't help either guy. The outcome was never in doubt, it just made Archer look weak that it took him so long to win against a 50-year old who was jobbing in 3 minutes in WWE 3 years ago. And it doesn't help that no one considers Dustin a monster but standing next to Archer he looks just as big and strong. Visually, it's not what you want. You want Archer to seem larger than life like he does against most of the rest of the roster. I loved the story that Dustin and Cody told, some had it as the MOTY due to the emotion and old school work rate, but that needed to be Dustin's last hurrah. Trying to repeatedly tell that story against guys who aren't his brother is overkill. Now he needs to just put guys over and be a working trainer to the locker room, let them learn through osmosis of being in the ring with him. He doesn't need to be having overly long competitive matches with anyone who's getting pushed. That said, it's quarantine wrestling and most of the roster isn't available right now, and Dustin is, so I can understand they need to kill time however they can. I judge this period on a curve, and AEW is getting an A+ overall in their handling of this situation compared to what WWE is doing. Last night was a killer show. If they needed to stretch for time, so be it. I just hope they realize this is not how Dustin should be used going forward. Last edited on Thu Apr 30th, 2020 03:52 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2020 03:56 pm PM Quote Reply 698th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Another good AEW, for 90 mins. That main event was painfully slow. They didn't need any more than 10 mins for that punch-kick WWE-style bullshit. And I really don't need to see blood in HD in 2020. I know a lot of you guys think it adds to the match, but in this match? As Jericho pointed out, you couldn't tell what was blood and what was face paint. It also had me thinking that doctors have better things to do at the moment than stitch up old-timey carneys. I know they always have a doctor anyway, but it was the first thing that came to my mind. It's a shame, because the lasting memory of any wrestling show is the final match/segment and this empty area era has been defined by main events that were planned to be epic and ended up being long and boring. At this stage of both of their careers, Archer should've beaten Dustin rather quickly in the first round. They're overdoing the "he's got heart" gimmick with Dustin. Bouncing back again and again in a 20+ minute match against Archer, who is new to the company and is getting put over like crazy as "The Murderhawk" doesn't help either guy. The outcome was never in doubt, it just made Archer look weak that it took him so long to win against a 50-year old who was jobbing in 3 minutes in WWE 3 years ago. And it doesn't help that no one considers Dustin a monster but standing next to Archer he looks just as big and strong. Visually, it's not what you want. You want Archer to seem larger than life like he does against most of the rest of the roster. I loved the story that Dustin and Cody told, some had it as the MOTY due to the emotion and old school work rate, but that needed to be Dustin's last hurrah. Trying to repeatedly tell that story against guys who aren't his brother is overkill. Now he needs to just put guys over and be a working trainer to the locker room, let them learn through osmosis of being in the ring with him. He doesn't need to be having overly long competitive matches with anyone who's getting pushed. That said, it's quarantine wrestling and most of the roster isn't available right now, and Dustin is, so I can understand they need to kill time however they can. I judge this period on a curve, and AEW is getting an A+ overall in their handling of this situation compared to what WWE is doing. Last night was a killer show. If they needed to stretch for time, so be it. I just hope they realize this is not how Dustin should be used going forward. My biggest problem was that this was the last match. Switch the first and last match from last night and they show was 9/10 for me, instead of 7/10, which is still good. And yeah. Dustin is one of those guys like Billy Gunn, who would have been booked as a monster in any era before or after, but was just average size in 1990s WWF. Even someone like Jeff Hardy, who in my head is about the size of a Young Buck, is actually 6'1. Last edited on Thu Apr 30th, 2020 03:59 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 7th, 2020 04:30 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 699th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Another awesome show ending with the brawl leading to the entrance of TIAA Bank Field. Final shot of the Inner Circle celebrating with their name on the scoreboard behind them will probably go down as an iconic AEW image. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 7th, 2020 02:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 700th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Another awesome show ending with the brawl leading to the entrance of TIAA Bank Field. Final shot of the Inner Circle celebrating with their name on the scoreboard behind them will probably go down as an iconic AEW image. These guys, and most of AEW in general, just “get it”. They’re making wrestling fun again for the most part. It’s not perfect by any means but their show is an enjoyable two hour program that is easy to watch. Also having JR and especially Schiavone on commentary makes a world of difference over WWE. They call it as a sport and give you those minute details such as how the ring ropes are made of cable last night when Cody fell into them that give their product that extra something that has been missing from wrestling for years now. Jericho has found his calling once he retires from the ring as well, he killed it the last few weeks. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. |
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Posted: Thu May 7th, 2020 02:59 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 701st Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: It's so surreal to me that it's 2020 and the only wrestling I watch is now AEW and Impact lol..I'm 100% off WWE, I even deleted Raw and Smackdown from the DVR season pass..I could care less.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 7th, 2020 03:38 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 702nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: It's so surreal to me that it's 2020 and the only wrestling I watch is now AEW and Impact lol..I'm 100% off WWE, I even deleted Raw and Smackdown from the DVR season pass..I could care less.. I sorta understand why I don't miss the crowd with AEW, because they're doing so many things so well and have wrestlers and staff making noise in the seats. But I even don't miss the crowd at all with Impact, and find that product more or less the same as pre-Covid. But a crowdless WWE/NXT is just absolutely brutal to watch. There's such an energy suck and a pathetic environment and they can't seem to figure it out. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 7th, 2020 04:29 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 703rd Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: It's so surreal to me that it's 2020 and the only wrestling I watch is now AEW and Impact lol..I'm 100% off WWE, I even deleted Raw and Smackdown from the DVR season pass..I could care less.. I sorta understand why I don't miss the crowd with AEW, because they're doing so many things so well and have wrestlers and staff making noise in the seats. But I even don't miss the crowd at all with Impact, and find that product more or less the same as pre-Covid. But a crowdless WWE/NXT is just absolutely brutal to watch. There's such an energy suck and a pathetic environment and they can't seem to figure it out. What finally drove me to give up on them was totally because of the no crowd stuff. When they had no crowd to work to it really exposed how stiff and scripted the WWE product is. When they literally were coming out playing to a non-existent crowd and it was really obvious everything they were doing had been run down and set in stone before they came out there, it really just soured me on watching them. Shit, the last few years the only good thing on some of those WWE shows was the live crowd.. Last edited on Thu May 7th, 2020 04:31 pm by Married Jo ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 7th, 2020 04:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 704th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: It's so surreal to me that it's 2020 and the only wrestling I watch is now AEW and Impact lol..I'm 100% off WWE, I even deleted Raw and Smackdown from the DVR season pass..I could care less.. I sorta understand why I don't miss the crowd with AEW, because they're doing so many things so well and have wrestlers and staff making noise in the seats. But I even don't miss the crowd at all with Impact, and find that product more or less the same as pre-Covid. But a crowdless WWE/NXT is just absolutely brutal to watch. There's such an energy suck and a pathetic environment and they can't seem to figure it out. What finally drove me to give up on them was totally because of the no crowd stuff. When they had no crowd to work to it really exposed how stiff and scripted the WWE product is. When they literally were coming out playing to a non-existent crowd and it was really obvious literally everything they were doing had been run down and set in stone before they came out there, it really just soured me on watching them. Shit, the last few years the only good thing on some of those WWE shows was the live crowd.. The playing to a non-existent crowd thing is all Vince, and the wrestlers know it's ridiculous. Daniel Bryan basically just refused to do it. Drew McIntyre admitted that he defied orders at WM and celebrated more to the camera than to the non-crowd because it felt like the right thing to do. Others just mindlessly continue to do as they're told. My wife walked into the room and saw a WWE entrance and once again shamed me for watching this shit. Non-fans notice how bad some of this stuff is even more than fans who are used to it, but this one is really comically absurd. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 7th, 2020 05:46 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 705th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: I am not a big AEW fan, the wrestling is still too spot driven and choreographed for my liking like the transitions are too obvious but the last match between le Sex Gods and Hardy and Omega was a fun ass match can't deny it Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 7th, 2020 05:49 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 706th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: I am not a big AEW fan, the wrestling is still too spot driven and choreographed for my liking like the transitions are too obvious but the last match between le Sex Gods and Hardy and Omega was a fun ass match can't deny it Sammy took a hull of a bump when run over by the gold cart, his head smacked hard. That was the best looking attempted vehicular homicide spot since Eddie Gilbert hit Jerry Lawler with his car. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 7th, 2020 06:39 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 707th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 7th, 2020 07:38 pm PM Quote Reply 708th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: I am not a big AEW fan, the wrestling is still too spot driven and choreographed for my liking like the transitions are too obvious but the last match between le Sex Gods and Hardy and Omega was a fun ass match can't deny it It's been a while since we've seen the Young Bucks, the Lucha Bros (good spot monkeys) and Private Party (bad spot monkeys). Most of the wrestling in the empty arena era has been punch-kick WWE-style. Very little grappling/chain-wrestling or choreographed spots. Last edited on Thu May 7th, 2020 07:40 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed May 13th, 2020 08:15 am PM Quote Reply 709th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Last Night's AEW Dark was a bumper 73 minute episode. If you were a fan of shows like WCW Saturday Night, this is the show for you. 8 squash matches and a main event. Since there was never any doubt as to who was going to win the matches, the lack of crowd (no wrestlers in the audience here) wasn't really so noticeable. Just a great way to get everyone's unique moves and finishers over, and Colt Cabana and Orange Cassidy are able to do their comedy shtick against guys who don't matter. The commentary by Tazz and Excalibur was also fun, reminding me of Gordon Solie putting over that the jobber could do wonders for their career by pulling off an upset. Also refreshing was that they focused on the in-ring action fore the whole show. No recaps of Dynamite, or talking about the main eventers instead of calling the action. I think squash matches work much better in the jobber-parade format of show, rather than randomly being slotted in the middle of an episode of Raw. And seeing as this is 2020 and not 1992, the jobbers can actually wrestle. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed May 13th, 2020 08:08 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 710th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Last Night's AEW Dark was a bumper 73 minute episode. If you were a fan of shows like WCW Saturday Night, this is the show for you. 8 squash matches and a main event. Since there was never any doubt as to who was going to win the matches, the lack of crowd (no wrestlers in the audience here) wasn't really so noticeable. Just a great way to get everyone's unique moves and finishers over, and Colt Cabana and Orange Cassidy are able to do their comedy shtick against guys who don't matter. The commentary by Tazz and Excalibur was also fun, reminding me of Gordon Solie putting over that the jobber could do wonders for their career by pulling off an upset. Also refreshing was that they focused on the in-ring action fore the whole show. No recaps of Dynamite, or talking about the main eventers instead of calling the action. I think squash matches work much better in the jobber-parade format of show, rather than randomly being slotted in the middle of an episode of Raw. And seeing as this is 2020 and not 1992, the jobbers can actually wrestle. I haven't watched Dark since the first few weeks it was on, but you sold me on checking this out later today. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat May 16th, 2020 11:13 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 711th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: So are they really "squash" matches? It always bugged me, and Jim Cornette actually brought it up recently about the wrestler who is being pushed giving too much to the "jobber" in matches. He went on about a Kenny Omega match that I haven't seen, from a few "Dynamites" ago where gave too much to the "jobber" he wrestled? What really bothered me was Lance Archer not destroying Marco Stunt in quick fashion and letting Stunt do some offensive spots. Yes he beat Marko convincingly, but it should have been a Bundy - S.D. Jones WM1 style of match for Lance to get over big. Then wasn't it the following week where Brodie Lee also wrestled Marko? Marko should have been wheeled out of the building on a stretcher after the Lance Archer match and not seen for a long time (or imo never again). Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun May 17th, 2020 12:02 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 712th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: It always bugged me, and Jim Cornette actually brought it up recently about the wrestler who is being pushed giving too much to the "jobber" in matches. He went on about a Kenny Omega match that I haven't seen, from a few "Dynamites" ago where gave too much to the "jobber" he wrestled? Yeah, it ruined Ric Flair's career because he gave jobbers too much. You probably don't even remember that guy because he's been forgotten in time. Cornette as usual has his finger on the pulse of wrestling, selectively forgetting decades of history to suit his idiotic rants about 4 guys who he doesn't like. And yes, the AEW squashes tend to give the jobbers a little something, because jobbers don't actually exist anymore. They're more like prospects looking for a contract. That's how ROH has played it for years and AEW does too. But there are still good old-fashioned decimations from time to time, like Chris Jericho beating Pineapple Pete in about 13 seconds. Last edited on Sun May 17th, 2020 12:02 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun May 17th, 2020 08:20 am PM Quote Reply 713th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: So, Kenny Omega had a match against a nobody called Alan Angels. The match went a little over six minutes, during which Angels got in some offence and even kicked out of the V-Trigger, one of Omega's signature moves, but it's not at all a protected moved like the One Winged Angel. If you are watching closely, Omega (kayfabe) is going through a crisis of confidence. He's good, he's winning, he's got a belt, but he's not having the 6 star matches that he's known for in Japan. It's not an in-your-face storyline, but they are slowly going somewhere with it. Having some difficulty in beating a jobber is part of that. Remember when the (real) Undertaker returned in 1994? He didn't have the urn, the source of his power. He was having a lot of trouble winning jobber matches. Going back through jobber history. Remembering old TV shows, heels would mostly win easily, but faces, especially mid-card faces, would always give their opponents something. Fast-forward to Velocity, and they would often use top indie talent (Samoa Joe, Brian Danielson and Christopher Daniels to name three, but there were many more) and they would have competitive matches. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun May 17th, 2020 04:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 714th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: So, Kenny Omega had a match against a nobody called Alan Angels. The match went a little over six minutes, during which Angels got in some offence and even kicked out of the V-Trigger, one of Omega's signature moves, but it's not at all a protected moved like the One Winged Angel. If you are watching closely, Omega (kayfabe) is going through a crisis of confidence. He's good, he's winning, he's got a belt, but he's not having the 6 star matches that he's known for in Japan. It's not an in-your-face storyline, but they are slowly going somewhere with it. Having some difficulty in beating a jobber is part of that. Remember when the (real) Undertaker returned in 1994? He didn't have the urn, the source of his power. He was having a lot of trouble winning jobber matches. Going back through jobber history. Remembering old TV shows, heels would mostly win easily, but faces, especially mid-card faces, would always give their opponents something. Fast-forward to Velocity, and they would often use top indie talent (Samoa Joe, Brian Danielson and Christopher Daniels to name three, but there were many more) and they would have competitive matches. Velocity was my favorite show for a while. You would get to routinely see dream matches of underutilized WWE talent against top indy stars in competitive 12-minute matches at a time when a lot of Raw matches didn’t go that long. The WWE star was always going to win of course, and the announcing was usually shit, but other than that it was the best thing about WWE for a while. And Alan Angles is impressive as hell. He looks like shit but he’s really tearing it down with a few AEW guys recently. There’s absolutely no reason not to showcase unknown indy talents in defeat to build them a tiny bit to possibly sign in the future. Adam Page began that way in ROH. He would jerk the curtain for months, being billed as a tobacco farmer and wearing his John Deere cap, and have good competitive matches in defeat, and the he was signed and pushed. Eddie Edwards started in ROH that way too, amongst others. Hell, WWE did that with Johnny Gargano and Tomasso Ciampa. Some guys like Lance Archer and Luchasaurus need to be squashing smaller guys right now to get their size over, but there’s no reason why most of the roster can’t have mostly competitive matches and then win. Last edited on Sun May 17th, 2020 04:25 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 12:13 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 715th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Honestly I haven't watched the show for at least a month and a half. I watched the ppv. That Brodie guy just isn't doing it for me. IMO he doesn't fit being that Dark Order leader. He hasn't shown me much to be honest. I know the "smart mark" community was/is big on him. Maybe it is just this Dark Order gimmick is the shits. Btw, does anyone else notice this...his ring gear looks a couple sizes too small for him? Too bad, they rushed him in as I would love to have seen him as an ass kicker type dude.. but, Lance Archer kinda got that role. Also they kinda rushed Brian Cage right to the top. I hope he doesn't end up like Jeff Cobb. Moxley is like Hogan in the 80's where they feed him a new challenger every other month. They are the Kamala's, One Man Gang's, and Killer Khans. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 03:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 716th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Also they kinda rushed Brian Cage right to the top. I hope he doesn't end up like Jeff Cobb. Moxley is like Hogan in the 80's where they feed him a new challenger every other month. They are the Kamala's, One Man Gang's, and Killer Khans. Jeff Cobb was brought in as a one-time deal and isn't under contract, so there's really no comparison. They have big plans for Cage. He was supposed to get a big push months ago but got hurt on his way out of Impact. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 04:31 pm PM Quote Reply 717th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Also they kinda rushed Brian Cage right to the top. I hope he doesn't end up like Jeff Cobb. Moxley is like Hogan in the 80's where they feed him a new challenger every other month. They are the Kamala's, One Man Gang's, and Killer Khans. Jeff Cobb was brought in as a one-time deal and isn't under contract, so there's really no comparison. They have big plans for Cage. He was supposed to get a big push months ago but got hurt on his way out of Impact. I think this was a positive. Bring in Cobb for one match. People who know him know he's decent, and for people who don't know him, he's physically impressive. This is 2020 wrestling, so it's not about wondering if Cobb can win, just about how is Moxley going to beat him. With WWE signing everyone to long deals, not just now, but for years, they end up stuck with them after they've been beaten, and they aren't worth much. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 04:57 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 718th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: What do you guys think of Sammy Guevara? Jericho is very high on him and I can see it - I think the kid has the "it factor", but I don't think he is big enough. If he can bulk up a little bit, not talking get all 'roided up, just a bit more bulk, I think he could be a great challenger for Moxley. As it is, I think he looks too much like a cruiserweight to be in the World Title picture ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 05:28 pm PM Quote Reply 719th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: What do you guys think of Sammy Guevara? Jericho is very high on him and I can see it - I think the kid has the "it factor", but I don't think he is big enough. If he can bulk up a little bit, not talking get all 'roided up, just a bit more bulk, I think he could be a great challenger for Moxley. As it is, I think he looks too much like a cruiserweight to be in the World Title picture He is very good, but if AEW has any plans on sticking around for the long run, then Guevara (and MJF and Jungle Boy) shouldn't be world title contenders for at least two years. There are plenty of main event matches between made men to be had without blowing their load on the young guys too quickly. Off the top of my head, these storylines are still active (or bubbling under): Moxley vs. Brian Cage Cody getting his title shot that he lost (they made a big deal about the number one in the weekly top 5 not being able to challenge for the title) Kenny Omega getting his 6-star match mojo back Jericho getting another chance at the title That's probably enough for a year of main events, and then you can add in Lance Archer and Hangman Page into the title picture as well, possibly. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 05:46 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 720th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: What do you guys think of Sammy Guevara? Jericho is very high on him and I can see it - I think the kid has the "it factor", but I don't think he is big enough. If he can bulk up a little bit, not talking get all 'roided up, just a bit more bulk, I think he could be a great challenger for Moxley. As it is, I think he looks too much like a cruiserweight to be in the World Title picture Sammy is one of AEW's great success stories. He came in as one of dozens of interchangeable indy guys and as soon as he was put in the Inner Circle his personality started shining through. You can tell how he's learning from Jericho. His facials are fantastic and his comedic timing is really improving with each appearance. His bumps have been awesome and realistic. They're making him a star moreso than any other guy who didn't previously have a rep. At this point, size means almost nothing in WWE and even less in AEW so I don't think anyone needs to talk about that anymore. He's not really any smaller than Daniel Bryan and a few other guys who have been World champions at this point. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 06:01 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 721st Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: He is very good, but if AEW has any plans on sticking around for the long run, then Guevara (and MJF and Jungle Boy) shouldn't be world title contenders for at least two years. Love this. And you are correct - let the kids fight with each other and actually earn their way to the top in a sense. Guevara needs to beat Jericho when Chris is on his way out, as you say, probably a good two years. Seriously, he could be AEW's version of Sting, where he's as legit of a homegrown talent as anybody. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 06:08 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 722nd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Sammy is one of AEW's great success stories. He came in as one of dozens of interchangeable indy guys and as soon as he was put in the Inner Circle his personality started shining through. You can tell how he's learning from Jericho. His facials are fantastic and his comedic timing is really improving with each appearance. His bumps have been awesome and realistic. They're making him a star moreso than any other guy who didn't previously have a rep. At this point, size means almost nothing in WWE and even less in AEW so I don't think anyone needs to talk about that anymore. He's not really any smaller than Daniel Bryan and a few other guys who have been World champions at this point. I think that Sammy is making himself a star by rising up above and beyond the spot they are giving him. Don't get me wrong - AEW is giving him the ball and telling him to run with it, but the kid scores a TD every time he gets the ball. As far as size goes, you and I disagree. And size needs to be talked about at least a bit. You bring up Danielson, but when WWE pushed him to the moon, he was at his biggest and bulkiest of his career. It's only now in his most recent run does he look to be the size he was in the indies. I'm not saying Sammy needs to 'roid up at all, but he's billed at 185 which looks fair as I can't judge his height on TV. If he can push that to 200 - and somebody that works out like he does can do it pretty quickly and safely - then he will look to be at least an equal of Moxley and Jericho and it won't look like Lance Hoyt will catch him mid-air and then lawn dart him into the side of a trailer. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2020 10:49 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 723rd Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: It might take some time, but Sammy will fill out. He turns 27 in late July. Granted they are different guys with different bodies, but when Chris Jericho turned 27, he was still a white bread babyface in WCW who hadn't broken out as an entertainingly obnoxious heel yet. Move ahead a few years and Jericho was noticeably bigger upon entering the WWE. Then compare Jericho in 2009 when he held the World Title. He was bigger still. Sammy Guevara has the goods to be a big star a decade from now and my guess is he will look a lot different physically by then. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2020 10:54 pm PM Quote Reply 724th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/72.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu72')">tamaliea> wrote: It might take some time, but Sammy will fill out. He turns 27 in late July. Granted they are different guys with different bodies, but when Chris Jericho turned 27, he was still a white bread babyface in WCW who hadn't broken out as an entertainingly obnoxious heel yet. Move ahead a few years and Jericho was noticeably bigger upon entering the WWE. Then compare Jericho in 2009 when he held the World Title. He was bigger still. Sammy Guevara has the goods to be a big star a decade from now and my guess is he will look a lot different physically by then. It's very brave of you to come out on this forum. Congratulations, sir. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2020 10:57 pm PM Quote Reply 725th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: I don't know about Tamalie, but a lot of Minneapolis guys have come out in the last 2 weeks. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2020 07:48 am PM Quote Reply 726th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Soooo, did AEW just start a homo angle tonight with Joey Janela and Sonny Kiss (not that there's anything wrong with it), or am I way off? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2020 08:26 am PM Quote Reply 727th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Soooo, did AEW just start a homo angle tonight with Joey Janela and Sonny Kiss (not that there's anything wrong with it), or am I way off? I guess the point is that it's the start of a story and keep watching to find out what happens. My main takeaway from last night's show is that Justin Roberts is back, and he is still awful. Dasha was so much better, because she was just a ring announcer, not trying to play some circus ringmaster gimmick, or be the third Buffer brother, or whatever bullshit Roberts does. All that sympathy he got after he wrote his book, I'm starting to think he might just be a huge dick. Last edited on Thu Jun 11th, 2020 08:28 am by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2020 02:12 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 728th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Soooo, did AEW just start a homo angle tonight with Joey Janela and Sonny Kiss (not that there's anything wrong with it), or am I way off? I read that Janela & Kiss have been tag partners on AEW Dark. Maybe it's a trip to the "Dark" side for Janela ( who bores the fuck out of me). Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2020 02:22 pm PM Quote Reply 729th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Soooo, did AEW just start a homo angle tonight with Joey Janela and Sonny Kiss (not that there's anything wrong with it), or am I way off? I read that Janela & Kiss have been tag partners on AEW Dark. Maybe it's a trip to the "Dark" side for Janela ( who bores the fuck out of me). The angle is clearly supposed to reboot him. He's drinking away his sorrows lamenting on how crap his AEW career has been since he lost the main event with Moxley. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2020 03:12 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 730th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Soooo, did AEW just start a homo angle tonight with Joey Janela and Sonny Kiss (not that there's anything wrong with it), or am I way off? I didn't take it that way at all. Other than the fact that Sonny Kiss is gay, there was nothing to indicate that. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2020 10:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 731st Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/72.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu72')">tamaliea> wrote: It might take some time, but Sammy will fill out. He turns 27 in late July. Granted they are different guys with different bodies, but when Chris Jericho turned 27, he was still a white bread babyface in WCW who hadn't broken out as an entertainingly obnoxious heel yet. Move ahead a few years and Jericho was noticeably bigger upon entering the WWE. Then compare Jericho in 2009 when he held the World Title. He was bigger still. Sammy Guevara has the goods to be a big star a decade from now and my guess is he will look a lot different physically by then. It's very brave of you to come out on this forum. Congratulations, sir. Huh? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2020 10:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 732nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Kris Statlander tore her ACL on Dynamite last week, so she'll be out 6-9 months. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 05:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 733rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Ricky Starks was the surprise challenger for Cody's TNT title last night and had a good showing in defeat. After the show, Tony Khan officially announced that Starks had signed an AEW contract. Starks is an 8-year pro who just started to get some buzz in the past year for his strong showings on NWA Power where he held the NWA TV title and his tours of DDT in Japan. Both were acknowledged by AEW last night. Starks had tweeted several weeks ago that his NWA contract had expired and he was a free agent. Starks has a look and personality similar to a young Rock and knows how to cut a promo. It's a good signing. Last edited on Thu Jun 18th, 2020 06:01 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 09:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 734th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: I actually saw the Starks v Cody match and enjoyed it. That TNT belt is ugly though. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 09:09 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 735th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: I actually saw the Starks v Cody match and enjoyed it. That TNT belt is ugly though. It's not finished. Covid caused delays in getting some materials, but they put it on TV anyway. It will look better when completed. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2020 02:49 am PM Quote Reply 736th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Thank you to AEW for actually featuring realistic, entertaining promos. Something I haven't got to enjoy in a loooong time now. It's one of the many reasons I prefer AEW over WWE. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2020 03:10 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 737th Post Gil Wilcox Joined: Mon Sep 30th, 2019 Location: USA Posts: 123 Status: Offline Mana: It's great to see two of my favorites on this show from the Chicago area, Melanie Cruise and Robert Ego Anthony. They are good hands and good people. Too bad that Robert had to job to this jerk. <A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqfIb0ccnGM" TARGET="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqfIb0ccnGMA> Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2020 09:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 738th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Jon Moxley and Q.T. Marshall are both scratched from tonight's Dynamite for coming in contact with Covid-positive people (which means Renee Young has also been exposed). ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2020 10:03 pm PM Quote Reply 739th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Jon Moxley and Q.T. Marshall are both scratched from tonight's Dynamite for coming in contact with Covid-positive people (which means Renee Young has also been exposed). They are being very cautions. Mox came into contact with someone who had come into contact with someone who tested positive. They are correctly being very careful about this. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 02:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 740th Post BuddyPSHayes Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Anywhere I Damn Well Please Posts: 4320 Status: Offline Mana: Nice touch having "Liz Hunter" and "Matt Brock" as reporters at Cody's press conference. ____________________ "The only area I can think of to avoid in Houston is Houston." - srossi Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 04:04 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 741st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Interesting that AEW mentioned on TV both Covid no-shows but not the Sammy suspension. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 05:24 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 742nd Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Interesting that AEW mentioned on TV both Covid no-shows but not the Sammy suspension. Not many folks that watch TNT AEW Wrestling probably don't even know on what's going on about the subject. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 05:59 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 743rd Post Erick Von Erich Joined: Thu Mar 26th, 2015 Location: Texas USA Posts: 960 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/12.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu12')">BuddyPSHayesa> wrote: Nice touch having "Liz Hunter" and "Matt Brock" as reporters at Cody's press conference. I haven't seen it, but.... no sh*t?! That's awesome! Woulda' been too much if "Eddie Ellner" asked a demeaning questions about Cody's late dad. ____________________ www.dawrestlingsite.com Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 06:23 am PM Quote Reply 744th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/421.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu421')">Erick Von Ericha> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/12.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu12')">BuddyPSHayesa> wrote: Nice touch having "Liz Hunter" and "Matt Brock" as reporters at Cody's press conference. I haven't seen it, but.... no sh*t?! That's awesome! Woulda' been too much if "Eddie Ellner" asked a demeaning questions about Cody's late dad. No. Because Brock and Hunter were fictional characters. Eddie Ellner wasn't. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 07:10 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 745th Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: They should have brought back Dan Shocket from the dead. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 07:14 am PM Quote Reply 746th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Dan was also a real person. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 07:51 am PM Quote Reply 747th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: The real Eddie Ellner was arrested after running onto the New York Yankees Stadium pitch to spread his grandmother's ashes (or something wierd like that. It was a major news story at the time in the US - not because of it being Ellner, just because it was a wierd thing to do.) You can read about it here:<A HREF="https://apnews.com/8e99e6b12a27812a332b657f02c47d1e" TARGET="_blank">https://apnews.com/8e99e6b12a27812a332b657f02c47d1eA> Ellner was eventually replaced by someone else the last few months of his PWI duties. You can tell that it wasn't Ellner anymore because those last few columns just don't read like the real guy. Last edited on Thu Jun 25th, 2020 07:56 am by Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 09:51 pm PM Quote Reply 748th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Renee Young has officially tested positive for COVID19, so Mox probably has it as well. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 09:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 749th Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Renee Young has officially tested positive for COVID19, so Mox probably has it as well. No he tested negative. However he thinks he has it. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2020 01:42 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 750th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tonight will be the biggest battle between AEW and NXT since the first week they went head-to-head. AEW is airing the equivalent of a free 2-part PPV this week and next with the return of FyterFest. NXT counters with their own PPV-level show by bringing back the Great American Bash name. Last edited on Thu Jul 2nd, 2020 01:42 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 04:07 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 751st Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: Aew loses again, .. I want to like aew but the fueds and the matches dont hit for me and too much comedy spots.... Also they need to work on their timing or spot transitions so it doesn't looked so planned out, it is bad when the wrestler is either looking back and waiting for the spot Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 04:54 pm PM Quote Reply 752nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Aew loses again, .. I want to like aew but the fueds and the matches dont hit for me and too much comedy spots.... Also they need to work on their timing or spot transitions so it doesn't looked so planned out, it is bad when the wrestler is either looking back and waiting for the spot NXT is just another main roster show now. I think that was the first handicap match in NXT TV history. I guess that's what the TV viewers want though. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 05:03 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 753rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Aew loses again, .. I want to like aew but the fueds and the matches dont hit for me and too much comedy spots.... Also they need to work on their timing or spot transitions so it doesn't looked so planned out, it is bad when the wrestler is either looking back and waiting for the spot NXT is just another main roster show now. I think that was the first handicap match in NXT TV history. I guess that's what the TV viewers want though. So what were the ratings? I didn’t see anything. I thought AEW blew away NXT again, and Jericho on commentary alone is better than anything NXT has done since switching to USA. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 09:22 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 754th Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tff-JIxxn2E" TARGET="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tff-JIxxn2EA> Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 11:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 755th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/156.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu156')">Principal_Raditcha> wrote: <A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tff-JIxxn2E" TARGET="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tff-JIxxn2EA> that's fantastic. Does anyone have the whole main event? My DRV fucked up and I missed the last 20 minutes of the show. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2020 05:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 756th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: On last night's AEW Dark, Brian Pillman, Jr. made his AEW debut as a glorofied jobber against Shawn Spears. Pillman is under MLW contract but is allowed to work anywhere other than WWE. I wouldn't be surprised if AEW signs him after his MLW deal expires. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2020 06:15 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 757th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Aew loses again, .. I want to like aew but the fueds and the matches dont hit for me and too much comedy spots.... Also they need to work on their timing or spot transitions so it doesn't looked so planned out, it is bad when the wrestler is either looking back and waiting for the spot NXT is just another main roster show now. I think that was the first handicap match in NXT TV history. I guess that's what the TV viewers want though. So what were the ratings? I didn’t see anything. I thought AEW blew away NXT again, and Jericho on commentary alone is better than anything NXT has done since switching to USA. AEW is killing NXT in the only demographic that advertisers give a shit about, the young people, so they're fine.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 11:09 am PM Quote Reply 758th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: On last night's AEW, Orange Cassidy officially became a player in the wrestling biz. His match against Jericho was a must see IMO. Check it out if you haven't seen it yet. The 8 man tag was pretty good too. Too many highspots and not enough wrestling for me, but the Canadian Destroyer from inside the ring over the top rope to the floor was pretty cool. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 12:27 pm PM Quote Reply 759th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: NXT had three jobber matches on what they were billing as a TakeOver level show. Yes the main event was excellent, but people must have been switching channels on the earlier matches. I wonder if the result of the main event being leaked wasn't on purpose. With the match being title vs title, some people were probably expecting some kind of BS finish that didn't end with a clean finish and one champion. The leak told everyone that they were getting a clean finish. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 03:59 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 760th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: On last night's AEW, Orange Cassidy officially became a player in the wrestling biz. His match against Jericho was a must see IMO. Check it out if you haven't seen it yet. The 8 man tag was pretty good too. Too many highspots and not enough wrestling for me, but the Canadian Destroyer from inside the ring over the top rope to the floor was pretty cool. Yeah that match was badass... ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 05:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 761st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: On last night's AEW, Orange Cassidy officially became a player in the wrestling biz. His match against Jericho was a must see IMO. Check it out if you haven't seen it yet. The 8 man tag was pretty good too. Too many highspots and not enough wrestling for me, but the Canadian Destroyer from inside the ring over the top rope to the floor was pretty cool. Yeah that match was badass... Last night was one of the better Dynamite's ever. Really fun show. Taz has been cutting killer promos and brought back the FTW title, the 8-man tag match was all sorts of fun, and the main event was perfect. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 09:35 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 762nd Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: Last night's Dynamite made up for a really painful episode of Dark Tuesday night. Taz has been on fire as Cage's advisor. ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 10th, 2020 12:12 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 763rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: For the second week in a row, NXT won the viewership battle while AEW won the coveted 18-49 demographic. We can tell you sources at WarnerMedia are thrilled with AEW's continued success in the demos. However, the viewership did drop across both series, which isn't what either side wanted given the matches they gave away on TV this week. The 7/8 edition of AEW did 715,000 overnight viewers, down from last week's 748,000 overnight viewers. The 7/8 edition of NXT did 759,000 overnight viewers, down from last week's 792,000 overnight viewers. Tony Khan tweeted: "If anyone thinks I consider being a top 7 show on cable anything but a huge win, they’re incorrect. A win in the demo is a win in the business, and this is a business. I know the industry wasn’t talking about the demo as much 20 years ago, but it’s what drives our revenue today." ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 10th, 2020 06:03 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 764th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: Is this where we at now...quoting demos when they lose.... Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 10th, 2020 07:03 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 765th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Is this where we at now...quoting demos when they lose.... We win even when we lose ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 10th, 2020 07:23 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 766th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Is this where we at now...quoting demos when they lose.... We win even when we lose Demos are a very real thing and have been for ages. All networks and advertisers care about are the younger demos. He's not making it up. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 10th, 2020 08:08 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 767th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: I’m aware ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 10th, 2020 08:29 am PM Quote Reply 768th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Gorilla Monsoon just said, "I Love It"! Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 15th, 2020 04:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 769th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: On last night's AEW Dark, Brian Pillman, Jr. made his AEW debut as a glorofied jobber against Shawn Spears. Pillman is under MLW contract but is allowed to work anywhere other than WWE. I wouldn't be surprised if AEW signs him after his MLW deal expires. Pillman was back on Dark again this week, getting squashed by Brian Cage. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 16th, 2020 11:00 pm PM Quote Reply 770th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: pwinsider: The 7/15 edition of AEW did 788,000 overnight viewers, up from last week's 715,000 overnight viewers. It was the highest overnight audience for Dynamite since May. The 7/15 edition of NXT did 631,000 overnight viewers, down from last week's 759,000 overnight viewers. Me: I'm not surprised in the slightest. Last week's NXT was awful. The writing on NXT is just as bad as the main roster now. The only thing saving them is that they have so many great wrestlers who couldn't have a bad match if they tried. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Jul 20th, 2020 08:09 pm PM Quote Reply 771st Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Arm drag Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jul 21st, 2020 03:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 772nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Recently released NXT star Tino Sabbatelli's 30-day no-compete has expired and he will get a try-out on AEW Dark tonight. They'll use him as a jobber in a tag match against Best Friends. His real name is Sabatino Piscetelli and he will wrestle under the name of Sabby going forward. Sabby was a standout defensive back at Oregon State University his senior year and really turned heads at the Combine, so he parlayed that into being a 2nd round draft pick in 2007 of the Tampa Bay Bucs. He played 6 years in the NFL (4 with the Bucs) before retiring after the 2011 season. In 2014, he signed with WWE with no previous wrestling experience. He spent almost all 5 years of his years there training at the PC and wrestling NXT house shows, but he did form a team with Riddick Moss and they made it to NXT TV for a few months. Then he tore his pec in 2018 and was never used on TV again. He always had the look and the personality, but the wrestling part never seemed to come naturally even after 5 years. Last edited on Tue Jul 21st, 2020 03:16 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 22nd, 2020 06:54 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 773rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW is promising that a major unsigned indy star will answer Cody's open challenge tonight for the TNT title. That match will kick off Dynamite. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2020 02:01 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 774th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW is promising that a major unsigned indy star will answer Cody's open challenge tonight for the TNT title. That match will kick off Dynamite. It’s Eddie Kingston. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2020 03:21 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 775th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW is promising that a major unsigned indy star will answer Cody's open challenge tonight for the TNT title. That match will kick off Dynamite. It’s Eddie Kingston. Many expect Kingston to be signed after his great match and promo last night. #SignKingston was trending on Twiter last night. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2020 07:48 pm PM Quote Reply 776th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Mike Tyson (54) is scheduled to face Roy Jones Jr (51) in LA on September 12. Whatever deal Tyson had with AEW, they haven't mentioned him for weeks now, and I guess he is done with them, at least until after this. This boxing match will be more of a work than anything seen in a wrestling ring. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2020 09:32 pm PM Quote Reply 777th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW is promising that a major unsigned indy star will answer Cody's open challenge tonight for the TNT title. That match will kick off Dynamite. It’s Eddie Kingston. Many expect Kingston to be signed after his great match and promo last night. #SignKingston was trending on Twiter last night. I admit Kingston had a great match and promo last night, but he doesn't scream money to me. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2020 06:03 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 778th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW has announced that next week Cody will defend the TNT title against another unsigned indy wrestler named Warhorse. I've never heard of this guy but fans online seem to be excited. I like using this title to give indy talent exposure on a weekly basis, but obviously AEW can't sign them all. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2020 09:56 pm PM Quote Reply 779th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Observer website: AEW Dynamite averaged 845,000 viewers for last night's show on TNT, topping the 615,000 viewers that NXT averaged on the USA Network. The gap of 230,000 viewers was the highest since March 18, which was the first closed set broadcast of the pandemic era for either show. Dynamite was up 7.2 percent in total viewers from last week. In the 18-49 demo, the show ranked fifth on cable with a 0.32 rating, up 10.3 percent from last Wednesday and matching Dynamite's best number since March. The 845,000 total viewers was the best for the show since the March 18 episode, which featured the long-promoted reveal of the Exalted One of The Dark Order and the debut of Matt Hardy. NXT was down 2.5 percent in total viewers from last Wednesday and had its lowest audience total since May 20. The show was actually up 21.4 percent in the 18-49 demo, averaging a 0.17 rating to finish 35th in the cable rankings for that category. The combined audience of 1.46 million viewers was up three percent from last week. AEW dominated the individual demo categories except for people over 50, where NXT had a slim advantage of 0.33 to 0.31. AEW doubled, and in some cases tripled, NXT in most of the other categories. Dynamite's strongest category was men 18-34, where they had an advantage of 0.44 to 0.23. In the men 12-34 category where NXT cratered last week, NXT was up slightly to a 0.04 rating as compared to AEW's 0.14. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2020 12:14 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 780th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Observer website: AEW Dynamite averaged 845,000 viewers for last night's show on TNT, topping the 615,000 viewers that NXT averaged on the USA Network. The gap of 230,000 viewers was the highest since March 18, which was the first closed set broadcast of the pandemic era for either show. Dynamite was up 7.2 percent in total viewers from last week. In the 18-49 demo, the show ranked fifth on cable with a 0.32 rating, up 10.3 percent from last Wednesday and matching Dynamite's best number since March. The 845,000 total viewers was the best for the show since the March 18 episode, which featured the long-promoted reveal of the Exalted One of The Dark Order and the debut of Matt Hardy. NXT was down 2.5 percent in total viewers from last Wednesday and had its lowest audience total since May 20. The show was actually up 21.4 percent in the 18-49 demo, averaging a 0.17 rating to finish 35th in the cable rankings for that category. The combined audience of 1.46 million viewers was up three percent from last week. AEW dominated the individual demo categories except for people over 50, where NXT had a slim advantage of 0.33 to 0.31. AEW doubled, and in some cases tripled, NXT in most of the other categories. Dynamite's strongest category was men 18-34, where they had an advantage of 0.44 to 0.23. In the men 12-34 category where NXT cratered last week, NXT was up slightly to a 0.04 rating as compared to AEW's 0.14. A huge (and totally predictable) problem is that NXT when it was in WWE Network didn’t have the stink of WWE on it. It was seen as completely different. Then Vince saw that it was the one successful thing the company has going and got more involved. From the move to USA to the show now following a WWE patten to all the cross-over appearances with the main roster, it’s now just another WWE show. And absolutely no one under 40 wants to watch a WWE show. Period. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2020 12:17 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 781st Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW is promising that a major unsigned indy star will answer Cody's open challenge tonight for the TNT title. That match will kick off Dynamite. It’s Eddie Kingston. Many expect Kingston to be signed after his great match and promo last night. #SignKingston was trending on Twiter last night. I admit Kingston had a great match and promo last night, but he doesn't scream money to me. Great promo, but he's clearly been drinking the same beers I've been drinking. ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2020 12:27 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 782nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/142.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu142')">brokea> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW is promising that a major unsigned indy star will answer Cody's open challenge tonight for the TNT title. That match will kick off Dynamite. It’s Eddie Kingston. Many expect Kingston to be signed after his great match and promo last night. #SignKingston was trending on Twiter last night. I admit Kingston had a great match and promo last night, but he doesn't scream money to me. Great promo, but he's clearly been drinking the same beers I've been drinking. He used to have a bigger beer belly than that. The announcers mentioned he lost 20 pounds in quarantine and I don’t know how legit that number is but he was noticeably slimmer than early this year in the NWA. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 03:39 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 783rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. Last edited on Thu Jul 30th, 2020 03:41 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 04:32 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 784th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Ariane, formerly Cameron of The Funkadactyls with Naomi in WWE, also debuted in AEW tonight and will be the tag partner of Nyla Rose in the upcoming tournament to crown AEW Women’s Tag champions. Ariane is best known from her time on “Total Divas” as her actual in-ring career was rough to say the least. Last edited on Thu Jul 30th, 2020 04:33 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 09:35 am PM Quote Reply 785th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. That was some bullshit-booking with Cardona coming in as Cody's "long-time friend." Maybe I missed something, but I would never have connected the two from their time in WWE. This is the kind of hot-shot booking that hurts WWE. They didn't need to bring him in like that, they could easily have crafted a meaningful story for him. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 12:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 786th Post Magnum Milano Joined: Fri Dec 19th, 2008 Location: England 'Bloody' England, United Kingdom Posts: 233 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. That was some bullshit-booking with Cardona coming in as Cody's "long-time friend." Maybe I missed something, but I would never have connected the two from their time in WWE. This is the kind of hot-shot booking that hurts WWE. They didn't need to bring him in like that, they could easily have crafted a meaningful story for him. They didn't need to bring him in at all considering how bloated their roster is. They've got far too many people under contract as it is, let alone bringing in Zack Ryder just because he's Cody's real life friend. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 01:03 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 787th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. Instead of being a FOB ( Friend of Bruno), it's FOC ( Friend of CODY). No one but people that collect Wrestling Figures care about Matt Cardona. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 01:04 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 788th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. That was some bullshit-booking with Cardona coming in as Cody's "long-time friend." Maybe I missed something, but I would never have connected the two from their time in WWE. This is the kind of hot-shot booking that hurts WWE. They didn't need to bring him in like that, they could easily have crafted a meaningful story for him. Been friends with CODY for years behind the scenes. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 01:05 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 789th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/218.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu218')">Magnum Milanoa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. That was some bullshit-booking with Cardona coming in as Cody's "long-time friend." Maybe I missed something, but I would never have connected the two from their time in WWE. This is the kind of hot-shot booking that hurts WWE. They didn't need to bring him in like that, they could easily have crafted a meaningful story for him. They didn't need to bring him in at all considering how bloated their roster is. They've got far too many people under contract as it is, let alone bringing in Zack Ryder just because he's Cody's real life friend. CODY brings these people in, but in the interview with ESPN yesterday, he says that there might not be a spot for "Miro" ( the former Rusev), due to only having 2 hours for TV. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 01:36 pm PM Quote Reply 790th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. That was some bullshit-booking with Cardona coming in as Cody's "long-time friend." Maybe I missed something, but I would never have connected the two from their time in WWE. This is the kind of hot-shot booking that hurts WWE. They didn't need to bring him in like that, they could easily have crafted a meaningful story for him. Been friends with CODY for years behind the scenes. Can't base a main event wrestling angle on that. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 04:34 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 791st Post BitterOldMan Joined: Thu Jun 30th, 2016 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 1134 Status: Offline Mana: I saw my first Eddie Kingston promo and match this week, which made me look for other matches. Kingston vs Mike Quackenbush was one I found and wow did Kingston have a beer gut then, if you're looking for a comparison. ____________________ Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. - John Stuart Mill Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 05:04 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 792nd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. Instead of being a FOB ( Friend of Bruno), it's FOC ( Friend of CODY). No one but people that collect Wrestling Figures care about Matt Cardona. I know that the two worlds may not mesh, but the WWE crowds really liked Zack Ryder, and after doing nothing for a year they gave them about a 2 week build and put the tag straps on them. And the crowd ate it up. While what you are saying about the action figures is true, you should take a look at his social media profiles. He has a ton of followers, and he sells hats and shirts through ProWrestlingTees and anything he puts up sells out. He has custom action figures and mat canvas for the rings, they sell out almost immediately. He did a series of 100 pins a couple months back that sold out in five mins. So I am pretty sure that there are a lot of people out there that like the guy, and he built everything on his own for the most part. The funny part of this is, if you didn't see him on social media, you'd have NO CLUE that he was a great friend of Cody Rhodes. They never had a connection in WWE. And I loved the dig that JR threw in - "I haven't seen him in so long I hardly recognize him". That was a shot at how he has been on TV maybe five times in the past four years. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 05:08 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 793rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. Instead of being a FOB ( Friend of Bruno), it's FOC ( Friend of CODY). No one but people that collect Wrestling Figures care about Matt Cardona. I know that the two worlds may not mesh, but the WWE crowds really liked Zack Ryder, and after doing nothing for a year they gave them about a 2 week build and put the tag straps on them. And the crowd ate it up. While what you are saying about the action figures is true, you should take a look at his social media profiles. He has a ton of followers, and he sells hats and shirts through ProWrestlingTees and anything he puts up sells out. He has custom action figures and mat canvas for the rings, they sell out almost immediately. He did a series of 100 pins a couple months back that sold out in five mins. So I am pretty sure that there are a lot of people out there that like the guy, and he built everything on his own for the most part. The funny part of this is, if you didn't see him on social media, you'd have NO CLUE that he was a great friend of Cody Rhodes. They never had a connection in WWE. And I loved the dig that JR threw in - "I haven't seen him in so long I hardly recognize him". That was a shot at how he has been on TV maybe five times in the past four years. Ryder basically forced WWE to give him a push years ago because of how over he got on his own in social media, and as usual Vince resented him for it and made sure the “push” wasn’t really a push at all but an excuse to say he couldn’t draw. Same old same old. But out of everyone with no TV time, Ryder was the one who consistently kept finding ways to get himself over, even this past year. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 05:09 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 794th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. I can't say that he's not on 'roids because I don't know him personally - but I think the reason that you think he looks jacked is because in WWE you only saw him maybe a half dozen times over the past three years, and next to his opponents, he's not that big. In AEW, he's bigger than most of them. He always has been in great shape, but since getting fired, he's really turned it up. He was bitching in April about not being able to go to the gym and Cody said "instead of toys, your garage should be filled with gym equipment like every other wrestler alive has". So he went out and bought some pro quality machines and set them up at his pool. AEW really, really needs that second show on TNT that they've teased us with because the roster is getting really big for a two hour show with no fans. And there are still some released guys that would fit. I thought Anderson and Gallows would be perfect there, but they said that AEW is pissed at them for backing out of their deal a year ago. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 05:13 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 795th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. I can't say that he's not on 'roids because I don't know him personally - but I think the reason that you think he looks jacked is because in WWE you only saw him maybe a half dozen times over the past three years, and next to his opponents, he's not that big. In AEW, he's bigger than most of them. He always has been in great shape, but since getting fired, he's really turned it up. He was bitching in April about not being able to go to the gym and Cody said "instead of toys, your garage should be filled with gym equipment like every other wrestler alive has". So he went out and bought some pro quality machines and set them up at his pool. AEW really, really needs that second show on TNT that they've teased us with because the roster is getting really big for a two hour show with no fans. And there are still some released guys that would fit. I thought Anderson and Gallows would be perfect there, but they said that AEW is pissed at them for backing out of their deal a year ago. I know that he has a large online presence and crap like that. If he was that good, he would've been sent to NXT to help out the younger talent. I do know that since the gyms were closed, he was doing more of a bodyweight type of workout. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 05:36 pm PM Quote Reply 796th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. I can't say that he's not on 'roids because I don't know him personally - but I think the reason that you think he looks jacked is because in WWE you only saw him maybe a half dozen times over the past three years, and next to his opponents, he's not that big. In AEW, he's bigger than most of them. He always has been in great shape, but since getting fired, he's really turned it up. He was bitching in April about not being able to go to the gym and Cody said "instead of toys, your garage should be filled with gym equipment like every other wrestler alive has". So he went out and bought some pro quality machines and set them up at his pool. AEW really, really needs that second show on TNT that they've teased us with because the roster is getting really big for a two hour show with no fans. And there are still some released guys that would fit. I thought Anderson and Gallows would be perfect there, but they said that AEW is pissed at them for backing out of their deal a year ago. I know that he has a large online presence and crap like that. If he was that good, he would've been sent to NXT to help out the younger talent. I do know that since the gyms were closed, he was doing more of a bodyweight type of workout. He was.... He went to NXT and worked with Mojo Rawley as the Hype Bros. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 05:41 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 797th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. I can't say that he's not on 'roids because I don't know him personally - but I think the reason that you think he looks jacked is because in WWE you only saw him maybe a half dozen times over the past three years, and next to his opponents, he's not that big. In AEW, he's bigger than most of them. He always has been in great shape, but since getting fired, he's really turned it up. He was bitching in April about not being able to go to the gym and Cody said "instead of toys, your garage should be filled with gym equipment like every other wrestler alive has". So he went out and bought some pro quality machines and set them up at his pool. AEW really, really needs that second show on TNT that they've teased us with because the roster is getting really big for a two hour show with no fans. And there are still some released guys that would fit. I thought Anderson and Gallows would be perfect there, but they said that AEW is pissed at them for backing out of their deal a year ago. I know that he has a large online presence and crap like that. If he was that good, he would've been sent to NXT to help out the younger talent. I do know that since the gyms were closed, he was doing more of a bodyweight type of workout. He was.... He went to NXT and worked with Mojo Rawley as the Hype Bros. "If he was that good, he would've been sent to NXT to help out the younger talent" FF is putting a comical amount of faith in WWE. This is the company that tried to push David Otunga instead of Daniel Bryan. Being good has nothing to do with it. Tons of guys should be working with younger talent to make them better. WWE doesn't want them better. They want them to be part of the system, nothing more, nothing less. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2020 07:32 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 798th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Zack Ryder is now All In, wrestling under his real name of Matt Cardona. He saved Cody from an attack at the hands of the Dark Order. I don’t know if he started doing steroids immediately after being fired or if he just looks big in comparison to the AEW crew, but he’s jacked. I can't say that he's not on 'roids because I don't know him personally - but I think the reason that you think he looks jacked is because in WWE you only saw him maybe a half dozen times over the past three years, and next to his opponents, he's not that big. In AEW, he's bigger than most of them. He always has been in great shape, but since getting fired, he's really turned it up. He was bitching in April about not being able to go to the gym and Cody said "instead of toys, your garage should be filled with gym equipment like every other wrestler alive has". So he went out and bought some pro quality machines and set them up at his pool. AEW really, really needs that second show on TNT that they've teased us with because the roster is getting really big for a two hour show with no fans. And there are still some released guys that would fit. I thought Anderson and Gallows would be perfect there, but they said that AEW is pissed at them for backing out of their deal a year ago. I know that he has a large online presence and crap like that. If he was that good, he would've been sent to NXT to help out the younger talent. I do know that since the gyms were closed, he was doing more of a bodyweight type of workout. He was.... He went to NXT and worked with Mojo Rawley as the Hype Bros. "If he was that good, he would've been sent to NXT to help out the younger talent" FF is putting a comical amount of faith in WWE. This is the company that tried to push David Otunga instead of Daniel Bryan. Being good has nothing to do with it. Tons of guys should be working with younger talent to make them better. WWE doesn't want them better. They want them to be part of the system, nothing more, nothing less. They were pushing Otunga to get to his wife, Jennifer Hudson. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 31st, 2020 08:06 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 799th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Eddie Kingston has now officially signed with AEW after his impressive match against Cody. No word on Warhorse yet. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 31st, 2020 08:14 pm PM Quote Reply 800th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Eddie Kingston has now officially signed with AEW after his impressive match against Cody. No word on Warhorse yet. I don't think Warhorse was that impressive. Eddie Kingston is the whole package. Awesome promo, and a great old-school style brawler. 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Posted: Fri Jul 31st, 2020 08:44 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 801st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Eddie Kingston has now officially signed with AEW after his impressive match against Cody. No word on Warhorse yet. I don't think Warhorse was that impressive. Eddie Kingston is the whole package. Awesome promo, and a great old-school style brawler. Also don't think there's much mileage in Warhorse's gimmick. I thought the match was fine but i don't get the gimmick of the Ultimate Warrior being left in the dryer too long and coming out a metalhead. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 1st, 2020 01:48 am PM Quote Reply 802nd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Eddie Kingston has now officially signed with AEW after his impressive match against Cody. No word on Warhorse yet. I don't think Warhorse was that impressive. Eddie Kingston is the whole package. Awesome promo, and a great old-school style brawler. Also don't think there's much mileage in Warhorse's gimmick. I thought the match was fine but i don't get the gimmick of the Ultimate Warrior being left in the dryer too long and coming out a metalhead. Every once in a while you come up with a good one. You gotta admit, he wasn't exactly a bad in ring worker though. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 1st, 2020 10:28 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 803rd Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: I thought Warhorse was great and was far more deserving of a roster shot than Kingston...course, Kingston prob knows someone there and Warhorse doesn't, I love AEW but it's fairly obvious it's nothing but a plaything for Cody and Kahn.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2020 09:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 804th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Strong rumor that Eric Bischoff is going to appear on Dynamite this week. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2020 09:21 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 805th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: Yes, they already filmed the segment with Jericho/Cassidy/Bischoff. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2020 10:09 pm PM Quote Reply 806th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: Yes, they already filmed the segment with Jericho/Cassidy/Bischoff. Yep. The Observer website posted it in their daily news bulletin on Thursday without any spoiler warning, which I thought was a bit off, unless they wanted the news to get out. I didn't post anything because I would have liked it to be a surprise myself, and I thought others would too. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2020 06:06 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 807th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Dynamite’s viewership broke 900,000 this week for the first time since pre-pandemic and again finished top 5 in the coveted 18-49 demo, so it was a very good week for AEW. It’s also worth noting that over the last few weeks, AEW and NXT combined are beating Raw’s ratings (and destroying it 18-49), so more fans are watching wrestling on Wednesdays than Mondays now. Last edited on Fri Aug 7th, 2020 06:09 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2020 07:38 am PM Quote Reply 808th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="/users/124.html" TARGET="_blank">KrissA> wrote: <A HREF="/users/912.html" TARGET="_blank">freebirdsforever2019A> wrote: Yes, they already filmed the segment with Jericho/Cassidy/Bischoff. Yep. The Observer website posted it in their daily news bulletin on Thursday without any spoiler warning, which I thought was a bit off, unless they wanted the news to get out. I didn't post anything because I would have liked it to be a surprise myself, and I thought others would too. The segment was great. I just watched it on DVR. The Global Warming promo by OC was priceless! That's the first time I ever heard him talk. Jericho and OC are probably my favorite characters in the business right now. It's nice too see them in a program in a good wrestling company, unlike the shitty WWE. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2020 03:27 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 809th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Bryan Alvarez is reporting that Sammy Guevara got some heat for splitting open Matt Hardy on Dynamite. Sammy carelessly threw an open chair at Hardy’s face and one of the legs split him open, requiring 13 stitches and a concussion protocol test. Sammy was supposed to use a folded up chair. Hardy supposedly forgave Sammy immediately, but Alvarez said that an AEW official took Sammy aside privately and read him the riot act for being sloppy. Sammy has just returned from a suspension for the Sasha Banks rape comments and now this, so there is some concern in AEW that Sammy is very immature and a liability. Conversely, everyone was impressed at how great Hardy was, brushing off the accident and turning it into a Twitter angle to further the feud. He has worked very well with the younger talent and doesn't big-shot anyone. Last edited on Fri Aug 7th, 2020 03:38 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2020 09:43 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 810th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Bryan Alvarez is reporting that Sammy Guevara got some heat for splitting open Matt Hardy on Dynamite. Sammy carelessly threw an open chair at Hardy’s face and one of the legs split him open, requiring 13 stitches and a concussion protocol test. Sammy was supposed to use a folded up chair. Hardy supposedly forgave Sammy immediately, but Alvarez said that an AEW official took Sammy aside privately and read him the riot act for being sloppy. Sammy has just returned from a suspension for the Sasha Banks rape comments and now this, so there is some concern in AEW that Sammy is very immature and a liability. Conversely, everyone was impressed at how great Hardy was, brushing off the accident and turning it into a Twitter angle to further the feud. He has worked very well with the younger talent and doesn't big-shot anyone. They won't get rid of Guevara, Jericho loves the kid. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2020 06:34 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 811th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Eddie Kingston has now officially signed with AEW after his impressive match against Cody. No word on Warhorse yet. Meltzer is reporting that the original plan was legitimately NOT to sign Kingston. Kingston was told by AEW that he was being brought in for 3 or 4 dates to complete a specific arc and he then expected to return to the NWA when Power started taping again. However AEW officials loved his promo and match so much and were so blown away by the social media reaction to his appearance that they surprised him by offering him a full contract. The NWA was not happy to lose him but are in chaos right now with even their Covid programming like Carneyland suspended following Dave Lagana’s firing, and no specific plans on how or when they can begin taping new content. Most of their talent have had their contracts expire during Covid and there is basically no management plan in place other than Billy Corgan himself to even reach out to talent. Corgan is said yo be understanding that formerly contracted talent can’t wait for them to get going again and has been supportive of everyone finding work elsewhere, but this really sucks for what was a fun studio show at times. Last edited on Sun Aug 9th, 2020 06:39 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2020 08:10 am PM Quote Reply 812th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Eddie Kingston has now officially signed with AEW after his impressive match against Cody. No word on Warhorse yet. Meltzer is reporting that the original plan was legitimately NOT to sign Kingston. Kingston was told by AEW that he was being brought in for 3 or 4 dates to complete a specific arc and he then expected to return to the NWA when Power started taping again. However AEW officials loved his promo and match so much and were so blown away by the social media reaction to his appearance that they surprised him by offering him a full contract. The NWA was not happy to lose him but are in chaos right now with even their Covid programming like Carneyland suspended following Dave Lagana’s firing, and no specific plans on how or when they can begin taping new content. Most of their talent have had their contracts expire during Covid and there is basically no management plan in place other than Billy Corgan himself to even reach out to talent. Corgan is said yo be understanding that formerly contracted talent can’t wait for them to get going again and has been supportive of everyone finding work elsewhere, but this really sucks for what was a fun studio show at times. Given the way that WWE, AEW and Impact are taping at the moment, unless the cost of testing is too prohibitive, I think Power is the show that would lose the least by having very few or no fans in attendance. As long as you don't show them, 15-20 distanced "fans" would be able to make almost as much noise as the 200 they usually have. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2020 08:14 am PM Quote Reply 813th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Dynamite’s viewership broke 900,000 this week for the first time since pre-pandemic and again finished top 5 in the coveted 18-49 demo, so it was a very good week for AEW. It’s also worth noting that over the last few weeks, AEW and NXT combined are beating Raw’s ratings (and destroying it 18-49), so more fans are watching wrestling on Wednesdays than Mondays now. Matt Jackson has been doing some very funny stuff on Being the Elite where he is trying to figure out how to capture the 50+ demo that NXT always wins. A Bob Ross style painting segment, a gardening segment, and this week enlisting the help Chris Daniels as the roster's only 50 year-old wrestler. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2020 07:41 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 814th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: This week’s edition of Dynamite will be a tribute to tag team wrestling with an appearance by the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express and the in-ring reunion of Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard. Kenny Omega/Adam Page will defend the AEW Tag titles against Luchasaurus/Jungle Boy and the Young Bucks take on Evil Uno/Stu Grayson, amongst other tag team matches. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2020 07:29 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 815th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: This week’s edition of Dynamite will be a tribute to tag team wrestling with an appearance by the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express and the in-ring reunion of Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard. Kenny Omega/Adam Page will defend the AEW Tag titles against Luchasaurus/Jungle Boy and the Young Bucks take on Evil Uno/Stu Grayson, amongst other tag team matches. You mean Tully & Arn are rasslin'? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2020 07:32 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 816th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: This week’s edition of Dynamite will be a tribute to tag team wrestling with an appearance by the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express and the in-ring reunion of Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard. Kenny Omega/Adam Page will defend the AEW Tag titles against Luchasaurus/Jungle Boy and the Young Bucks take on Evil Uno/Stu Grayson, amongst other tag team matches. You mean Tully & Arn are rasslin'? No of course not. They’re just going to appear in the ring together. They haven’t yet in AEW. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 14th, 2020 04:19 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 817th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW has released 3 wrestlers, 2 of them connected to the British sex scandal. Jimmy Havoc is officially gone. He had been accused of sexual assault and was pulled from TV to undergo "mental health and substance abuse counseling". He never appeared again despite living in the U.S. He had been part of an undercard tag team with Kip Sabian at the time of the accusations. Bea Priestley was released. She's the girlfriend of Will Ospreay and was accused of helping to blacklist Pollyanna after she made accusations about Ospreay. She was quarantined in England and never appeared in AEW again. The 3rd is British women's wrestler Sadie Gibbs, who only had a handful of matches before being quarantined in England and didn't seem to be in store for any type of push anyway. Last edited on Fri Aug 14th, 2020 04:23 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2020 07:26 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 818th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: So AEW's audience largely followed them to Saturday night, and NXT unopposed saw a bump but not a huge one (not surprising because WWE's audience is their audience, it doesn't seem to change much based on competition anymore, it just slowly erodes). PWInsider: The Saturday night edition of AEW Dynamite on 8/22 garnered 755,000 overnight viewers. That was slightly down from their 792,000 overnight viewers on Wednesday 8/12. Unopposed on Wednesday 8/19 edition of NXT did 853,000 overnight viewers, up from last week's 619,000 overnight viewers. I would think that they had hoped to pick up more of the AEW audience than that. Last edited on Tue Aug 25th, 2020 07:26 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2020 08:10 am PM Quote Reply 819th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Want to know what's wrong with wrestling fans today? One thing, anyway. Read the thread on Classics (yeah, I know) and they mostly didn't like Hangman's angle. People don't have the ability to follow long term booking anymore. FTR got into his head last week about having to wrestle the Bucks. AEW never recap anything. Should they, I don't know. I hate WWE recapping what happened earlier on the same show, but maybe a "last week on AEW" is needed, because the subtle stuff is flying over people's heads. I listened to a couple of reviews of the show, and they were pointing out details that I had missed like the drinks on the bar. Who were the other two drinks for? I think the booking is fantastic, by the way. I feel rewarded for paying attention. If you pay attention in WWE, they will slap you in the face. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2020 08:33 am PM Quote Reply 820th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="/users/124.html" TARGET="_blank">KrissA> wrote: Want to know what's wrong with wrestling fans today? One thing, anyway. Read the thread on Classics (yeah, I know) and they mostly didn't like Hangman's angle. People don't have the ability to follow long term booking anymore. FTR got into his head last week about having to wrestle the Bucks. AEW never recap anything. Should they, I don't know. I hate WWE recapping what happened earlier on the same show, but maybe a "last week on AEW" is needed, because the subtle stuff is flying over people's heads. I listened to a couple of reviews of the show, and they were pointing out details that I had missed like the drinks on the bar. Who were the other two drinks for? I think the booking is fantastic, by the way. I feel rewarded for paying attention. If you pay attention in WWE, they will slap you in the face. I agree with all of this. And yes, they need to start doing week to week recaps so Jim Cornette can understand the storylines. Also, Kenny Omega was in the Thunderdome on Smackdown last night.... Attached Image (viewed 69 times): EgjOOXgWsAA5dW2.jpg Last edited on Sat Aug 29th, 2020 02:37 pm by Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2020 11:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 821st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Want to know what's wrong with wrestling fans today? One thing, anyway. Read the thread on Classics (yeah, I know) and they mostly didn't like Hangman's angle. People don't have the ability to follow long term booking anymore. FTR got into his head last week about having to wrestle the Bucks. AEW never recap anything. Should they, I don't know. I hate WWE recapping what happened earlier on the same show, but maybe a "last week on AEW" is needed, because the subtle stuff is flying over people's heads. I listened to a couple of reviews of the show, and they were pointing out details that I had missed like the drinks on the bar. Who were the other two drinks for? I think the booking is fantastic, by the way. I feel rewarded for paying attention. If you pay attention in WWE, they will slap you in the face. A million times this. Watching AEW is like watching an HBO show, watching WWE is like watching an NBC sitcom. You definitely need to pay attention to the details, something I’m not used to because for 20 years WWE has just been background noise that can still be easily followed and makes no sense anyway. I will say this. They don’t need recaps per se, but the announcers should be pointing some of this stuff out and calling back to previous things and foreshadowing others. The JR of 20 years ago could do that, but he’s not the guy now. And Schiavone has been very good but the storytelling aspect has never been his strong suit. And Excalibur...no. Last edited on Sun Aug 30th, 2020 12:04 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2020 12:46 am PM Quote Reply 822nd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: NXT 9/1/20 849,000 total viewers 0.26 in the 18-49 Demo AEW Dynamite 9/2/20 928,000 total viewers 0.36 in the 18-49 Demo The demo for Dynamite is tied with the 8/5 episode as their best performance since February and the total viewership is the highest since 3/18 - the first episode without fans. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2020 03:19 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 823rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW had the best opening last night that I’ve seen in years. So simple, so effective, so funny. Jericho and MJF, the top 2 heels, both coming off big losses at the PPV. They pull into the parking lot coincidentally at the same time and briefly meet. They kiss each other’s asses in smarmy insincere ways as only their characters could do. Then they separate and both mumble “What a loser” at the same time. Fucking brilliant. This is only the 2nd time in a year their paths have crossed, both times with them feigning respect to each other but also being so egomaniacal that they secretly don’t like each other. They’ve never been in an angle together and they’ve never shared a screen for more than 2 minutes, but the seeds are planted so subtly for something down the road. AEW likely doesn’t even know what it is yet, but they don’t have to. Eventually they’ll do something and there will be a shred of a backstory with perfect character development. I’m not exaggerating in the least when I say that that simple 2 minute interaction may have been my favorite moment in wrestling all year, better than a million moonsaults through flaming tables. This is what AEW does that WWE just can’t. And if WWE wrote the same skit, they’d blow it with bad acting and by having the guys in a blood feud by the end of Hour 1. AEW is writing Breaking Bad and WWE is writing “Jackass”. WWE has so trained me to NOT pay attention and just have it on as background noise that I find myself constantly needing to rewind AEW to catch stuff I missed that will never be recapped or shoved down my throat 6 million times. I have to remind myself, “Pay attention, this is actually like a real TV show that you need to really watch.” Last edited on Thu Sep 10th, 2020 03:31 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2020 03:31 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 824th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW had the best opening last night that I’ve seen in years. So simple, so effective, so funny. Jericho and MJF, the top 2 heels, both coming off big losses at the PPV. They pull into the parking lot coincidentally at the same time and briefly meet. They kiss each other’s asses in smarmy insincere ways as only their characters could do. Then they separate and both mumble “What a loser” at the same time. Fucking brilliant. This is only the 2nd time in a year their paths have crossed, both times with them feigning respect to each other but also being so egomaniacal that they secretly don’t like each other. They’ve never been in an angle together or didn’t more than a minute in screen at the same time, but the seeds are planted so subtly for something down the road. AEW likely doesn’t even know what it is yet, but they don’t have to. Eventually they’ll do something and there will be a shred of a backstory with perfect character development. I’m not exaggerating in the least when I say that that simple 2 minute interaction may have been my favorite moment in wrestling all year, better than a million moonsaults through flaming tables. This is what AEW does that WWE just can’t. And if WWE wrote the same skit, they’d blow it with bad acting and by having the guys in a blood feud by the end of Hour 1. AEW is writing Breaking Bad and WWE is writing “Jackass”. How much is AEW paying you, i need a side hustle to make some money because if this clip that I watched below was the reason for this high praise you just wrote, I want in on the money they are giving out.... Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2020 03:33 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 825th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW had the best opening last night that I’ve seen in years. So simple, so effective, so funny. Jericho and MJF, the top 2 heels, both coming off big losses at the PPV. They pull into the parking lot coincidentally at the same time and briefly meet. They kiss each other’s asses in smarmy insincere ways as only their characters could do. Then they separate and both mumble “What a loser” at the same time. Fucking brilliant. This is only the 2nd time in a year their paths have crossed, both times with them feigning respect to each other but also being so egomaniacal that they secretly don’t like each other. They’ve never been in an angle together or didn’t more than a minute in screen at the same time, but the seeds are planted so subtly for something down the road. AEW likely doesn’t even know what it is yet, but they don’t have to. Eventually they’ll do something and there will be a shred of a backstory with perfect character development. I’m not exaggerating in the least when I say that that simple 2 minute interaction may have been my favorite moment in wrestling all year, better than a million moonsaults through flaming tables. This is what AEW does that WWE just can’t. And if WWE wrote the same skit, they’d blow it with bad acting and by having the guys in a blood feud by the end of Hour 1. AEW is writing Breaking Bad and WWE is writing “Jackass”. How much is AEW paying you, i need a side hustle to make some money because if this clip that I watched below was the reason for this high praise you just wrote, I want in on the money they are giving out.... Well we can’t all watch wrestling just to see ugly chicks snake their big asses and then pretend they’re the hottest thing on the planet. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2020 09:08 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 826th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW had the best opening last night that I’ve seen in years. So simple, so effective, so funny. Jericho and MJF, the top 2 heels, both coming off big losses at the PPV. They pull into the parking lot coincidentally at the same time and briefly meet. They kiss each other’s asses in smarmy insincere ways as only their characters could do. Then they separate and both mumble “What a loser” at the same time. Fucking brilliant. This is only the 2nd time in a year their paths have crossed, both times with them feigning respect to each other but also being so egomaniacal that they secretly don’t like each other. They’ve never been in an angle together or didn’t more than a minute in screen at the same time, but the seeds are planted so subtly for something down the road. AEW likely doesn’t even know what it is yet, but they don’t have to. Eventually they’ll do something and there will be a shred of a backstory with perfect character development. I’m not exaggerating in the least when I say that that simple 2 minute interaction may have been my favorite moment in wrestling all year, better than a million moonsaults through flaming tables. This is what AEW does that WWE just can’t. And if WWE wrote the same skit, they’d blow it with bad acting and by having the guys in a blood feud by the end of Hour 1. AEW is writing Breaking Bad and WWE is writing “Jackass”. How much is AEW paying you, i need a side hustle to make some money because if this clip that I watched below was the reason for this high praise you just wrote, I want in on the money they are giving out.... Well we can’t all watch wrestling just to see ugly chicks snake their big asses and then pretend they’re the hottest thing on the planet. So can i ask you a question what is the pros and cons of AEW in your eyes... in my eyes it is alot of bad that i see, and only pro is it ain't WWE which seems to be huge selling point to most of AEW fanbase in my opinion. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2020 11:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 827th Post Angelic Assassin Joined: Mon Dec 27th, 2010 Location: Home Of The Redskins, You Candy Asses. , Washington USA Posts: 10482 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Want to know what's wrong with wrestling fans today? One thing, anyway. Read the thread on Classics (yeah, I know) and they mostly didn't like Hangman's angle. People don't have the ability to follow long term booking anymore. FTR got into his head last week about having to wrestle the Bucks. AEW never recap anything. Should they, I don't know. I hate WWE recapping what happened earlier on the same show, but maybe a "last week on AEW" is needed, because the subtle stuff is flying over people's heads. I listened to a couple of reviews of the show, and they were pointing out details that I had missed like the drinks on the bar. Who were the other two drinks for? I think the booking is fantastic, by the way. I feel rewarded for paying attention. If you pay attention in WWE, they will slap you in the face. Maybe AEW is deliberately trying to condition viewers to pay attention by NOT constantly recapping pretty much what was just seen before the break like WWE constantly does. While I haven't been a regular follower AEW asks more into a 2 hour show than WWE does in a months worth of 3 hour snooze fests. Many at the top of AEW have been through the WWE and their clown show where endless recaps and replays amount to nothing more than time filler because everything else is so poorly plotted and executed they have to fill time somehow. I'm willing to bet that anyone DVR'ing AEW rewinds and watches parts over while virtually nobody does for WWE. I'm sure people DVR WWE and then blitz through an episode in 20 minutes. Or the go to the dreaded YouTube and watch a 15 minute highlight package and are badically all caught up till next weeks nonsensical epidode. ____________________ This thread was great till Rossi posted that AA ruined it. Rossi=The Mouth That Bored Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2020 06:19 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 828th Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: I really want to like AEW, but man I just can't get into it. I usually DVR it and will watch some of the matches, but their angles and ranking systems are such hot garbage most of the time. Perfect example: the whole "wins and losses matter", so Dustin Rhodes isn't even ranked, but gets a TNT title shot. Jurassic Express isn't ranked but is in the gauntlet match for a title shot, but LAX, who are ranked, aren't in it. Miro, who did a little promo about glass ceilings and brass rings, is debuted as the best man for a lower midcarders wedding. Because wedding angles are such career boosters. In fairness I'll give this angle a chance because who knows, but it sure doesn't seem like it's setting him up for something big right out of the gate. ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Sep 12th, 2020 07:29 pm PM Quote Reply 829th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: AEW did 1.016 million viewers on Wednesday. It's their first time ever over 1 million viewers for a single episode of Dynamite. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 16th, 2020 05:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 830th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Miro (Rusev) went off on fellow AEW star PAC on a livestream, saying he will never work with him and he's unsafe. Apparently back in 2015, PAC injured Miro during a meaningless "Main Event" match in WWE. It's hard to say if this is the beginning of a working shoot angle, but it doesn't seem like it. PAC's career has been absolutely snakebit the last few years as he went from spending a year of his prime being benched while trying to get out of his WWE contract, and now has lost another 6 months and counting to Covid where he hasn't been able to re-enter the country. He's the all-but-forgotten man in AEW now. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 17th, 2020 03:55 am PM Quote Reply 831st Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Will Hobbs < watching paint dry Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 17th, 2020 03:13 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 832nd Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: So online saying this was the greatest AEW show ever, Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 17th, 2020 03:16 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 833rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: So online saying this was the greatest AEW show ever, I don't know about the greatest ever, but it was a good show. Lots of fun, some great matches, and a brutal parking lot brawl at the end. I don't for the life of me know how AEW gets away with these death matches on mainstream cable TV during primetime in 2020. Standards & practices would've had a fit if WCW did this 20 years ago, back when blood was even more common than now. Trent Barretta will be picking glass shards out of his back for a week. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 17th, 2020 04:25 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 834th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: So Jake Roberts & Taz made a pact. Sounds interesting? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 17th, 2020 04:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 835th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: So Jake Roberts & Taz made a pact. Sounds interesting? They've had some awesome verbal exchanges in recent weeks. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 18th, 2020 01:13 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 836th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW beat NXT last night soundly, 886,000 to 689,000, and again dominated their young demo. Both shows dropped from when they ran unopposed, especially NXT. There's increasing demand for NXT to just give in and move to Tuesdays, which would probably be better for them and the fans. WWE clearly wants to keep AEW below a million and knows if they move nights that won't happen, but NXT is possibly being hurt more in the long run by losing like this. PWINsider: AEW President Tony Khan responded to AEW Dynamite's great number last night, where the series was third overall for basical cable and #1 for the night for several male demographics: Thank you everyone who watched last night! We got great feedback from our fans & amazing numbers, finishing #1 for the night among all cable shows in total 18-34 year old viewers + #1 Males 18-49 + #1 Males 12-34, all due to our great fans + great wrestlers & staff! Last edited on Fri Sep 18th, 2020 01:15 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 18th, 2020 01:25 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 837th Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: Really fun show last night - just flew by. ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 18th, 2020 05:38 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 838th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: NWA Women’s champion Thunder Rosa and Ivelisse apparently got into a shoot during their match on Dynamite, which wasn’t live and was therefore edited to look smoother than it was. Ivelisse apparently no-sold a few shots and Rosa took exception and hit her with some stiff shots. That led to a minute or so where they stopped cooperating and started fighting, but they got back on track. Backstage the two had to be kept apart. Despite Rosa being the outsider, most seemed to take her side and felt like Ivelisse has attitude problems. Next week is set to feature Rosa and Hikaru Shida vs. Ivelisse and Diamanté. Some say they were surprised the match announcement wasn’t edited off the show as well, but it wasn’t so the match is expected to happen. Last edited on Fri Sep 18th, 2020 05:39 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2020 08:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 839th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW has signed Serena Deeb, who appeared on Dynamite earlier in the month in a loss to Thunder Rosa. Deeb was a WWE Covid release in April as a coach. It's unlcear if she will only wrestle for AEW or if they want her to help coach the female talent as well. Last edited on Mon Sep 21st, 2020 08:32 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2020 08:40 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 840th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: NWA Women’s champion Thunder Rosa and Ivelisse apparently got into a shoot during their match on Dynamite, which wasn’t live and was therefore edited to look smoother than it was. Ivelisse apparently no-sold a few shots and Rosa took exception and hit her with some stiff shots. That led to a minute or so where they stopped cooperating and started fighting, but they got back on track. Backstage the two had to be kept apart. Despite Rosa being the outsider, most seemed to take her side and felt like Ivelisse has attitude problems. Next week is set to feature Rosa and Hikaru Shida vs. Ivelisse and Diamanté. Some say they were surprised the match announcement wasn’t edited off the show as well, but it wasn’t so the match is expected to happen. Ivelisse Velez has been a pain in everybody's ass since she did Tough Enough. She has an attitude and I'm not surprised that the NWA Champ hit her with some stiff shots - Rosa is the outsider, and is thinking that she's being made to look bad by the girl that works there full time. Also, on a slightly different subject, I would think that if Rosa were available full time that AEW would keep her on the roster. Also think that the only reason Ivelisse is there is that she's somewhat a recognizable name. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2020 08:40 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 841st Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: NWA Women’s champion Thunder Rosa and Ivelisse apparently got into a shoot during their match on Dynamite, which wasn’t live and was therefore edited to look smoother than it was. Ivelisse apparently no-sold a few shots and Rosa took exception and hit her with some stiff shots. That led to a minute or so where they stopped cooperating and started fighting, but they got back on track. Backstage the two had to be kept apart. Despite Rosa being the outsider, most seemed to take her side and felt like Ivelisse has attitude problems. Next week is set to feature Rosa and Hikaru Shida vs. Ivelisse and Diamanté. Some say they were surprised the match announcement wasn’t edited off the show as well, but it wasn’t so the match is expected to happen. Ivelisse Velez has been a pain in everybody's ass since she did Tough Enough. She has an attitude and I'm not surprised that the NWA Champ hit her with some stiff shots - Rosa is the outsider, and is thinking that she's being made to look bad by the girl that works there full time. Also, on a slightly different subject, I would think that if Rosa were available full time that AEW would keep her on the roster. Also think that the only reason Ivelisse is there is that she's somewhat a recognizable name. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2020 08:43 pm PM Quote Reply 842nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: NWA Women’s champion Thunder Rosa and Ivelisse apparently got into a shoot during their match on Dynamite, which wasn’t live and was therefore edited to look smoother than it was. Ivelisse apparently no-sold a few shots and Rosa took exception and hit her with some stiff shots. That led to a minute or so where they stopped cooperating and started fighting, but they got back on track. Backstage the two had to be kept apart. Despite Rosa being the outsider, most seemed to take her side and felt like Ivelisse has attitude problems. Next week is set to feature Rosa and Hikaru Shida vs. Ivelisse and Diamanté. Some say they were surprised the match announcement wasn’t edited off the show as well, but it wasn’t so the match is expected to happen. Ivelisse Velez has been a pain in everybody's ass since she did Tough Enough. She has an attitude and I'm not surprised that the NWA Champ hit her with some stiff shots - Rosa is the outsider, and is thinking that she's being made to look bad by the girl that works there full time. Also, on a slightly different subject, I would think that if Rosa were available full time that AEW would keep her on the roster. Also think that the only reason Ivelisse is there is that she's somewhat a recognizable name. Surely she can work Wednesdays for AEW any time she wants. The NWA roster today consists only of Nick Aldis, Eli Drake and Thunder Rosa. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2020 09:12 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 843rd Post kargol Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Brum, United Kingdom Posts: 5565 Status: Offline Mana: There wasn't anything in Velez v Rosa that looked shooty...unless they edited it out. Just looked a normal match. Few things did not quite connect. ____________________ superfunkymean Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2020 09:14 pm PM Quote Reply 844th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/46.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu46')">kargola> wrote: There wasn't anything in Velez v Rosa that looked shooty...unless they edited it out. Just looked a normal match. Few things did not quite connect. That episode of AEW wasn't live, it was reported that the worst of it was edited out. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2020 09:59 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 845th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/46.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu46')">kargola> wrote: There wasn't anything in Velez v Rosa that looked shooty...unless they edited it out. Just looked a normal match. Few things did not quite connect. My original post said it was edited, and also that AEW talent were surprised that the graphic advertising a future Ivelisse match wasn't also edited out. She's supposed to be back this week in a tag match against Rosa. I hope that one is live because that could be fun. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 22nd, 2020 04:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 846th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Gerald Brisco has teased that he's going to AEW. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Sep 22nd, 2020 06:13 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 847th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Gerald Brisco has teased that he's going to AEW. He's doing some funny stuff on Twitter about it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2020 12:34 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 848th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Lance Archer has tested positive for Covid and is off Dynamite tonight. The match has been changed to Jon Moxley vs. Eddie Kingston. Archer says he feels OK. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2020 02:25 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 849th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Last night’s special Late Night Dynamite got an incredible 585,000 viewers. Considering the show didn’t start until after 12:30 AM due to the NBA playoff coverage running long, that’s really an astounding number. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2020 02:32 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 850th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Lance Archer has tested positive for Covid and is off Dynamite tonight. The match has been changed to Jon Moxley vs. Eddie Kingston. Archer says he feels OK. Well that fucking blows. I really dig Archer. Underrated talent and a good guy to boot. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2020 03:20 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 851st Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Is Dynamite live or taped tonight? I ask because they have an AEW title match. do they announce time limits at the beginning of matches and are title fights an hour time limit? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2020 03:22 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 852nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I guess Tully just talked about it lol Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2020 03:49 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 853rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: What I was getting at is that it looks like they are starting the title match with about twelve minutes to go. I wonder if they will go off the air with the match still going? lol Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2020 04:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 854th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Ben Carter, who wrestled a few times on Dark and then just had a breakout match on Late Night Dynamite this week in which he and Scorpio Sky tore it down, has announced that he too has tested positive for Covid. It was expected that Carter was about to be signed. Carter expressed disappointment that he has to back out of his bookings literally 2 days after his career took off, but says he feels fine other than losing taste. Last edited on Thu Sep 24th, 2020 04:45 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2020 04:53 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 855th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Lance Archer has tested positive for Covid and is off Dynamite tonight. The match has been changed to Jon Moxley vs. Eddie Kingston. Archer says he feels OK. Well that fucking blows. I really dig Archer. Underrated talent and a good guy to boot. Pairing him with Jake was absolute gold if you ask me. And Jake can get a promo over with the light crowds - when he first came in, he was having a beast of a time talking over the crowd because his voice is shot. Let Archer just be a destroyer and Jake does the talking. The only thing that takes away from Archer is that they brought in Brian Cage not too long ago, and they play virtually the same character, AND they gave him the FTW belt (which admittedly would have been a bigger deal in front of a live crowd but they did what they could do). AEW has a lot of talent on the roster, and could absorb more if they wanted to, but they REALLY need the second show that Khan has been teasing us with in order to get everybody over. That way, there can be more matches, longer matches, and more storylines to build upon. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2020 04:54 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 856th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I guess Tully just talked about it lol Tully is still good on the stick. I can't figure out if he really couldn't remember the name of SCU or was just fucking with them. I think it's the latter, but it's hard to tell as he played it off so well and so did his team. They acted like it was part of the promo. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2020 04:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 857th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Lance Archer has tested positive for Covid and is off Dynamite tonight. The match has been changed to Jon Moxley vs. Eddie Kingston. Archer says he feels OK. Well that fucking blows. I really dig Archer. Underrated talent and a good guy to boot. Pairing him with Jake was absolute gold if you ask me. And Jake can get a promo over with the light crowds - when he first came in, he was having a beast of a time talking over the crowd because his voice is shot. Let Archer just be a destroyer and Jake does the talking. The only thing that takes away from Archer is that they brought in Brian Cage not too long ago, and they play virtually the same character, AND they gave him the FTW belt (which admittedly would have been a bigger deal in front of a live crowd but they did what they could do). AEW has a lot of talent on the roster, and could absorb more if they wanted to, but they REALLY need the second show that Khan has been teasing us with in order to get everybody over. That way, there can be more matches, longer matches, and more storylines to build upon. I wouldn't push for too much too soon, especially during Covid. I'd like to see the new show debut about a month after live crowds return. AEW is back in a really nice rhythm right now with Dynamite and Dark providing the old school squashes to keep talent over. I wouldn't change anything in this environment. Last edited on Thu Sep 24th, 2020 04:59 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2020 05:19 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 858th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW Dynamite will celebrate the 30th Anniversary of Chris Jericho's career on Oct. 7. Jericho's first match was Oct. 2, 1990 when he went to a 10-minute time limit draw with Lance Storm. I'd be surprised if Storm doesn't make an appearance. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 25th, 2020 12:40 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 859th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW Dynamite will celebrate the 30th Anniversary of Chris Jericho's career on Oct. 7. Jericho's first match was Oct. 2, 1990 when he went to a 10-minute time limit draw with Lance Storm. I'd be surprised if Storm doesn't make an appearance. Would Storm even show up if asked? He might stay away if he thinks that Vince would hire him back after/if the COVID gets better and fans would be allowed again. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 25th, 2020 01:38 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 860th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW Dynamite will celebrate the 30th Anniversary of Chris Jericho's career on Oct. 7. Jericho's first match was Oct. 2, 1990 when he went to a 10-minute time limit draw with Lance Storm. I'd be surprised if Storm doesn't make an appearance. Would Storm even show up if asked? He might stay away if he thinks that Vince would hire him back after/if the COVID gets better and fans would be allowed again. Storm has tweeted some things that make me think he’s already over WWE. He had JUST shut down his school and moved to a different country and was let go in record time. He was not a happy camper. This is not a nobody with no other options. They shouldn’t have treated him like that. Covid or not, that was unnecessary. Last edited on Fri Sep 25th, 2020 01:39 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Sep 25th, 2020 04:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 861st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Serena Deeb is the latest AEW talent who tested positive for Covid. She just signed with the company last week. She has been forced to pull out of a match on the NWA weekly PPV this coming week. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Sep 30th, 2020 05:29 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 862nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: Variety featured a piece on the first anniversary of All Elite Wrestling on TNT with comments from WarnerMedia executives as well as AEW President Tony Khan and AEW performers. “I think where where the rubber really met the road was during when COVID hit and watching Tony [Khan] really pivot and grow,” Brett Weitz, general manager of TBS, TNT, and truTV told Variety. “And he was able to keep those storylines going and put so many great things together, even through a global pandemic, and that tells you everything you need to know about the DNA of that brand and that guy as a producer.” Khan also commented on that time period, noting, "After the first two weeks of the pandemic, as our roster started to thin out, what happened was we were forced to do shows with less than 30% of our wrestling roster available to us, and I’m actually proud of those shows as I am of anything because they kept us going. I wanted to film shows to keep the storylines moving so that we could build a testing plan. I always believed that, as we’ve shown, a safe testing plan could be implemented. I didn’t know how long it was going to take to design and get all the tests we would need and get it all set up. But it came together in in about a month.” The article broke down how well AEW has done since debuting for the cable network in both the audience demographics and with its first licensed product, the AEW action figure line, which ranks third in new toy lines currently. There are plans for further AEW expansion within the WarnerMedia world as well. “We have an opportunity to use all facets of WarnerMedia in a way that most places can’t,” Sam Linsky, senior vice president and co-head of scripted originals for TBS, TNT and truTV told Variety. “We’ve got a comic book company. We’ve got video game companies. We’ve got merchandising people. We’ve got people who make animation for television. We’ve got reality television producers. It’s all in house. So we have a real opportunity to spread this IP and grow it across WarnerMedia.” To read the complete article, click here. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2020 09:06 am PM Quote Reply 863rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <A HREF="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Mitchell_(gamer)" TARGET="_blank">Billy MitchellA> appeared on Dynamite this week. That's all kinds of bat-shit crazy. It popped me, but seriously, how many people watching this show have any clue who he is? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2020 02:48 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 864th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <A HREF="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Mitchell_(gamer)" TARGET="_blank">Billy MitchellA> appeared on Dynamite this week. That's all kinds of bat-shit crazy. It popped me, but seriously, how many people watching this show have any clue who he is? Almost no one, but AEW loves the gamers. It pops the boys and the kids on Twitch. I still don't know who he is even after reading his Wiki. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2020 03:13 pm PM Quote Reply 865th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <A HREF="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Mitchell_(gamer)" TARGET="_blank">Billy MitchellA> appeared on Dynamite this week. That's all kinds of bat-shit crazy. It popped me, but seriously, how many people watching this show have any clue who he is? Almost no one, but AEW loves the gamers. It pops the boys and the kids on Twitch. I still don't know who he is even after reading his Wiki. Even among gamers I doubt he's well-known. I saw the documentary he was featured in because I watch almost everything, and I do follow some retro gaming channels on the YouTubes where the story of his fake gaming records have been discussed. Most retro gamers seem to be wrestling fans, but I very much doubt the opposite is true. It's a strange way to introduce Miro, as an ass-kicking heel, but also a video game nerd. I know that is exactly who he is, but it's a difficult character to get behind. The problem is, and maybe I should say this in hushed tones, as an in-ring worker, Miro is close to the bottom of the AEW roster. They have usually relied on a stellar match to introduce new guys, but that wouldn't have worked with him. The wedding does have potential to be fun, though. If this was WWE, he would have debuted in hour one of Raw, turned on the groom during the wedding in hour two, and they would have had a match in hour three, so I can't complain. I really enjoyed this week's episode. It's refreshing to see things like Jericho being able to feud with Private Party, while also working an angle with MJF at the same time. Because of the way WWE is written they can't do this. There were some good matches this week, but the main thing for me is that I could list at least 10 different angles, probably 20 with the low-key ones that are bubbling under the surface, that AEW are running right now, and the vast majority of them have me interested in what happens next. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2020 03:16 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 866th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: I haven't seen Dynamite yet, but they absolutely NEVER should've incorporated gaming into Miro's character. I don't even like him talking about it on Twitter. But that's the world we live in now where no one can by a bad-ass because the curtain is pulled so far back, not really with kayfabe but more with social media and wrestlers trying to generate outside revenue streams, that there's no mystery. Everyone comes across as a nerd who Dick Murdoch would've ass-raped. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2020 03:39 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 867th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I haven't seen Dynamite yet, but they absolutely NEVER should've incorporated gaming into Miro's character. I don't even like him talking about it on Twitter. But that's the world we live in now where no one can by a bad-ass because the curtain is pulled so far back, not really with kayfabe but more with social media and wrestlers trying to generate outside revenue streams, that there's no mystery. Everyone comes across as a nerd who Dick Murdoch would've ass-raped. You are being a little bit too hard on the current product. Dick Murdoch would've ass-raped most of these guys just for being gymnasts and weightlifters. It would have nothing at all to do with gaming. Hell, if there was money to be made, he would figure out a way to get his cut just before the raping began. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2020 06:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 868th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I wish Khan would let someone with booking experience help him fine tune things. I'm not an AEW hater, but I just think the booking isn't the greatest. That puff piece in "Variety" was no doubt bought by Khan's PR department. Word is that he is pumping a lot of money in getting exposure for the AEW brand...Which is not a bad thing. I was listening to a guy that has a good line on a lot of behind the scenes "stuff", mainly with WWE, but some AEW "stuff" too. Regarding the action figures they put out...They are made by Jakks. The guy at Jakks who is in charge of the action figures did what they did when the WWE launched their first series of figures with them. They only made a limited amount of the first set. That way it looks like the AEW figures are really popular and are sold out everywhere. It gets the vibe going that the AEW figures are so in demand that they can't keep them on the shelves. In reality, JAKKS only made a small amount of them. Once the second series of figures come out, Jakks will go back to making a large quantity of them. It seems to be working as people that got their hands on them are putting the figures up on EBay. Apparently the "Brandy" figures are going for something like $200. Tony Khan has a lot of resources behind him. He is worth way more than Vince is. This ain't Dixie Carter....Tony may be a bit of a money mark, but he can afford to be. lol Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2020 07:01 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 869th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I wish Khan would let someone with booking experience help him fine tune things. I'm not an AEW hater, but I just think the booking isn't the greatest. I think that it's not necessarily just Khan's booking, it's the talent that decides to switch things up on the fly. The one thing with the entire group of the Elite, all the VPs, they pretty much control their own thing. Tony is the boss, but he's also trying to be one of the "boys". You really can't do both - but at the same time I get the feeling that he does his booking with the talent in the room, so to speak. I think that unlike WWE, all of the contracted talent in AEW has input on their gimmick and how they are booked to a certain extent. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but it just appears to me watching on TV that the talent is invested in their match every single match. You don't see that in WWE anymore. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2020 07:08 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 870th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I wish Khan would let someone with booking experience help him fine tune things. I'm not an AEW hater, but I just think the booking isn't the greatest. I think that it's not necessarily just Khan's booking, it's the talent that decides to switch things up on the fly. The one thing with the entire group of the Elite, all the VPs, they pretty much control their own thing. Tony is the boss, but he's also trying to be one of the "boys". You really can't do both - but at the same time I get the feeling that he does his booking with the talent in the room, so to speak. I think that unlike WWE, all of the contracted talent in AEW has input on their gimmick and how they are booked to a certain extent. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but it just appears to me watching on TV that the talent is invested in their match every single match. You don't see that in WWE anymore. Tony's been adamant right up until the past few days that they don't use writers and the talent cut their own promos. So when you can do that, you have a lot of power over the direction of your character obviously. But clearly you can tell that guys like Jericho and Cody are helping with the promos of the younger guys. For the most part, I think it's working very well. There are obviously a few who will struggle in this environment. There are also way too many guys who simply never get mic time, and that has to change. Last edited on Thu Oct 1st, 2020 07:11 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2020 07:27 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 871st Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I wish Khan would let someone with booking experience help him fine tune things. I'm not an AEW hater, but I just think the booking isn't the greatest. I think that it's not necessarily just Khan's booking, it's the talent that decides to switch things up on the fly. The one thing with the entire group of the Elite, all the VPs, they pretty much control their own thing. Tony is the boss, but he's also trying to be one of the "boys". You really can't do both - but at the same time I get the feeling that he does his booking with the talent in the room, so to speak. I think that unlike WWE, all of the contracted talent in AEW has input on their gimmick and how they are booked to a certain extent. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but it just appears to me watching on TV that the talent is invested in their match every single match. You don't see that in WWE anymore. Tony's been adamant right up until the past few days that they don't use writers and the talent cut their own promos. So when you can do that, you have a lot of power over the direction of your character obviously. But clearly you can tell that guys like Jericho and Cody are helping with the promos of the younger guys. For the most part, I think it's working very well. There are obviously a few who will struggle in this environment. There are also way too many guys who simply never get mic time, and that has to change. Not only Jericho and Cody but now Matt Hardy is doing a lot to help out behind the scenes with the younger talent. And that's only a good thing. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2020 08:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 872nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I wish Khan would let someone with booking experience help him fine tune things. I'm not an AEW hater, but I just think the booking isn't the greatest. I think that it's not necessarily just Khan's booking, it's the talent that decides to switch things up on the fly. The one thing with the entire group of the Elite, all the VPs, they pretty much control their own thing. Tony is the boss, but he's also trying to be one of the "boys". You really can't do both - but at the same time I get the feeling that he does his booking with the talent in the room, so to speak. I think that unlike WWE, all of the contracted talent in AEW has input on their gimmick and how they are booked to a certain extent. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but it just appears to me watching on TV that the talent is invested in their match every single match. You don't see that in WWE anymore. Tony's been adamant right up until the past few days that they don't use writers and the talent cut their own promos. So when you can do that, you have a lot of power over the direction of your character obviously. But clearly you can tell that guys like Jericho and Cody are helping with the promos of the younger guys. For the most part, I think it's working very well. There are obviously a few who will struggle in this environment. There are also way too many guys who simply never get mic time, and that has to change. Not only Jericho and Cody but now Matt Hardy is doing a lot to help out behind the scenes with the younger talent. And that's only a good thing. Is it though? I don't have a problem with how the guys do promos, it is more the angles need more input. The "boys" sometimes don't necessarily know what's food for them. A big peeve of mine is how Omega has been booked. The guy was the hottest wrestler in the world when AEW began. Since then he is just another guy. I know they are doing a slow build with him, but the casual fans might not see him as a top guy once they pull the trigger.The "boys" don't always know what is best for them. They debuted a lot of wrestlers this past year. ..Cage and Archer have been booked terribly. Orange Cassidy is the one I wonder about. His gimmick is starting to wear thin. The gimmick he does cannot be over exposed. Where does he go next now that they are portraying him as a top guy?How many more weeks are we going to see him come out and do his little kick routine? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Oct 6th, 2020 09:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 873rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW Dynamite will celebrate the 30th Anniversary of Chris Jericho's career on Oct. 7. Jericho's first match was Oct. 2, 1990 when he went to a 10-minute time limit draw with Lance Storm. I'd be surprised if Storm doesn't make an appearance. In a 3 minute video they made me care about seeing Jericho wrestle a jobber on the 30th Anniversary Show. Great work here. Jericho is so good at putting guys over. <A HREF="https://twitter.com/aew/status/1313282829623623682?s=21" TARGET="_blank"> ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2020 02:08 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 874th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW is getting pushed hard during TBS’ coverage of the MLB playoffs. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2020 05:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 875th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW Dynamite will celebrate the 30th Anniversary of Chris Jericho's career on Oct. 7. Jericho's first match was Oct. 2, 1990 when he went to a 10-minute time limit draw with Lance Storm. I'd be surprised if Storm doesn't make an appearance. Would Storm even show up if asked? He might stay away if he thinks that Vince would hire him back after/if the COVID gets better and fans would be allowed again. Storm has tweeted some things that make me think he’s already over WWE. He had JUST shut down his school and moved to a different country and was let go in record time. He was not a happy camper. This is not a nobody with no other options. They shouldn’t have treated him like that. Covid or not, that was unnecessary. Lance Storm was one of many from the worlds of wrestling and rock who sent in video tributes that aired throughout Dynamite last night. Others included Don Callis, Ultimo Dragon, Chavo Guerrero, Jr., and Hiroshi Tanahashi from Jericho's wrestling past, as well as rockers Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley from KISS, Lars Ulrich from Metallica, and Slash from GNR. As far as the match goes, well Jericho tried as hard as possible to get Dr. Luther over but man that was rough. Luther was trying to turn the clock back but kept stumbling and was so blown up after 3 minutes that Jericho almost literally had to carry him into position a few times. It doesn't get any worse than when he just flat-out fell off the apron. Last edited on Thu Oct 8th, 2020 05:59 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2020 08:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 876th Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: For a guy who's at least 50 lbs heavier than he should be at 50 something years old Luther looked about as good as he's going to look. ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 06:49 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 877th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Did Luther ever wrestle a full time schedule during his whole career? I know he wrestled a lot of tours in Japan for W*ing, IWA and or FMW. How long were these tours and was he booked on every one? Maybe I should re-phrase the question to, did Luther ever wrestle a full schedule in North America? Seeing that Chavo Jr. sent in a video tribute it got me thinking about him. What has he been doing since leaving WWE? Is he still full time with Impact, or indies? Was he part of Lucha Underground? I really liked him as a wrestler, it's just I haven't heard his name brought up for a long time until now. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 07:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 878th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Now with Tony Khan being in the news in England as of late regarding the questionable comments/tweets regarding his Father's team Fulham FC, I have a question for Kargol, Kriss, indikator and others who have the knowledge of how European Football Clubs work. Tony Khan's official job title with his Father's England Football Association (I think that is what it is called)team , Fulham FC is "Director Of Football". Basically my question is, what that job entails when it comes to the workings of a Premier League level team? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 02:04 pm PM Quote Reply 879th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Now with Tony Khan being in the news in England as of late regarding the questionable comments/tweets regarding his Father's team Fulham FC, I have a question for Kargol, Kriss, indikator and others who have the knowledge of how European Football Clubs work. Tony Khan's official job title with his Father's England Football Association (I think that is what it is called)team , Fulham FC is "Director Of Football". Basically my question is, what that job entails when it comes to the workings of a Premier League level team? Back in the day, teams would have a manager, and the manager would be in charge of both the team (training, tactics, starting line-ups etc) and player acquisitions (buying and selling players, contract negotiations etc). Today, many of the big teams have a head coach to do the former and a director of football to do the latter. Usually the DoF is not actually a stake-holding member of the board of directors, but Tony Khan is an exception here, since he is also the Vice-Chairman of the club (and the General Manager, and the Sporting Director). Basically the Director of Football is like the VP of Talent Relactions in WWE. However, every club gives their DoF a slightly different role. At some clubs, the DoF is in charge of the complete direction of the club, deciding on what style of football the club will play, then hiring a coaching staff and players to match that vision. At other clubs, often where the head coach is a very high profile and successful coach, the DoF is acting more at the behest of the head coach, scouting and signing players that suit the style and tactics that the coach wants. Tony Khan is neither of those, though. Fulham is a weird club. Situated right in the very centre of London, it struggles to attract enough fans to fill its relatively small 25,000 seat stadium, often selling tickets to tourists to fill empty seats (bigger London clubs can easily attract 50,000 or more fans to every game). Fulham has become something of rich man's play-thing (the previous owner was <A HREF="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Al-Fayed" TARGET="_blank">Mohamed Al-FayedA>), and Khan basically does what he wants there. He started out providing statistical analysis, but now he advises on player recruitment. A normal DoF at a club is a full-time job between scouting and contract-negotiation, and it would be impossible to add head booker at AEW and whatever he does at the Jaguars to that workload. With the number of hats that Khan wears, not just at Fulham, but in AEW and the Jaguars, it's impossible to even guess what he actually does at Fulham. Delegate mostly, I presume. He probably weighs in with his opinions on potential transfer signings, and I guess they have to ask him for money, although financial fair-play rules prevent him from just throwing millions into the transfer and wages budget. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 02:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 880th Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: Luther never did full time in North America. Chavo was a stunt coordinator last I heard. ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 02:39 pm PM Quote Reply 881st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/142.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu142')">brokea> wrote: Luther never did full time in North America. Chavo was a stunt coordinator last I heard. Chavo was the wrestling coach on GLOW and appeared in the last episode of Season 2. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 02:59 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 882nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Seeing that Chavo Jr. sent in a video tribute it got me thinking about him. What has he been doing since leaving WWE? Is he still full time with Impact, or indies? Was he part of Lucha Underground? I really liked him as a wrestler, it's just I haven't heard his name brought up for a long time until now. Chavo was with Lucha Underground as a wrestler and an agent for all seasons (primarily as an agent but he wrestled often enough). He's also done indies and a few tours of Australia. He was the stunt coordinator and I think had a cameo on the Netflix series "GLOW" that was just canceled, so I'm sure that took up a lot of his time as well. And just recently he's been part of the Gallows & Anderson PPVs "Talk 'N Shop A-Mania", which is separate than, but plugged by, Impact. So he's kept busy. Last edited on Fri Oct 9th, 2020 02:59 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 03:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 883rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Did Luther ever wrestle a full time schedule during his whole career? I know he wrestled a lot of tours in Japan for W*ing, IWA and or FMW. How long were these tours and was he booked on every one? Maybe I should re-phrase the question to, did Luther ever wrestle a full schedule in North America? Dr. Luther wrestled a full indy schedule in Canada. He was affiliated with most of the major groups up there, primarily ECCW. In Japan, he was a legit gaijin star in the early to mid '90s for most of their indies, including FMW, IWA, and WAR. He wrestled extensively there and was brought in for many tours. He had very high-profile feuds with Sabu, Onita, and Hayabusa there. He absolutely never did anything in the U.S. I don't think this is that surprising though. There were fewer viable U.S. indies back then and he was getting paid more in Japan than anything he could hope for here, and when he was here he stayed closer to his home in Canada and got plenty of bookings there. He probably didn't see the necessity of traveling around the U.S. making peanuts to try to make a bigger name for himself here. Long-term, that might have been a bad strategy after the Japan indy scene crashed in the early 2000s. His best shot at breaking out here was in ECW. ECW knew him well from their relationship with FMW, and they were using his greatest rival Hayabusa as a big international draw on a handful of shows that year. He got 2 try-out matches in upstate NY, near the Canadian border, on a weekend in August 1998. In those matches he jobbed to Mike Awesome (The Gladiator in FMW, who he was very familiar with), and to Tommy Rogers (formerly of The Fantastics, who was a more curious choice of opponent that he had no history with). Nothing ever came out of this. Either he didn't impress Paul E. or they couldn't agree on money or Luther just didn't want to travel from Canada to Philly, NY, etc. on a regular basis. But that was it for him in ECW. Last edited on Fri Oct 9th, 2020 03:50 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 05:55 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 884th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW: The Musical. Well that Jericho-MJF song and dance number was certainly unique. Cant see Vince ever coming up with that one. It actually reminded me of a “Family Guy” bit. Last edited on Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 05:56 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 08:13 am PM Quote Reply 885th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Eddie Kingston is the best promo guy in the business right now, and you'd have to go back a few years to find someone better. He needed AEW to come along though. There's no way he would have fit into corporate WWE and they way they produce their shows. I can see him telling Vince to go fuck himself if he was told he had to memorise a script. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 02:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 886th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Eddie Kingston is the best promo guy in the business right now, and you'd have to go back a few years to find someone better. He needed AEW to come along though. There's no way he would have fit into corporate WWE and they way they produce their shows. I can see him telling Vince to go fuck himself if he was told he had to memorise a script. I've been saying that for years. His promos were the best in the business 10 years ago. The problem is he comes across as a legit street thug from Yonkers instead of the corporate version of a street thug from Yonkers who's really a college drop-out from Westchester. But his ability to come across as genuinely menacing and scary is really uncanny in this era of wrestling, and his stuff in AEW doesn't even hold a candle to the shit he's done and said in the indies. He can also turn on a dime and do a little comedy or be a sincere likeable underdog. And that's not even getting into his ring work, which is fantastic. His cosmetics have always been a big negative for him, but I always found it odd he couldn't stick with at least ROH or Impact longer than the handful of shows he did for them. After following his career for so many years, it's really surreal to see him interacting with Jim Ross of all people on commentary. Talk about worlds colliding. I expect his match with Moxley at the PPV to be a CZW-worthy bloodbath. Moxley is nuts for continuing to do that shit, but I have no doubt he's going to push the envelope against Kingston here. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 08:09 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 887th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Kenny Omega last night should have been the Kenny Omega we have been watching the last year on this show. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 09:51 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 888th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Eddie Kingston is the best promo guy in the business right now, and you'd have to go back a few years to find someone better. He needed AEW to come along though. There's no way he would have fit into corporate WWE and they way they produce their shows. I can see him telling Vince to go fuck himself if he was told he had to memorise a script. I've been saying that for years. His promos were the best in the business 10 years ago. The problem is he comes across as a legit street thug from Yonkers instead of the corporate version of a street thug from Yonkers who's really a college drop-out from Westchester. But his ability to come across as genuinely menacing and scary is really uncanny in this era of wrestling, and his stuff in AEW doesn't even hold a candle to the shit he's done and said in the indies. He can also turn on a dime and do a little comedy or be a sincere likeable underdog. And that's not even getting into his ring work, which is fantastic. His cosmetics have always been a big negative for him, but I always found it odd he couldn't stick with at least ROH or Impact longer than the handful of shows he did for them. After following his career for so many years, it's really surreal to see him interacting with Jim Ross of all people on commentary. Talk about worlds colliding. I expect his match with Moxley at the PPV to be a CZW-worthy bloodbath. Moxley is nuts for continuing to do that shit, but I have no doubt he's going to push the envelope against Kingston here. Scary to who, he looks like those white boys that started listening to Eminem and wearing FUBU jerseys ..cmon on with this ... how much does AEW pay I need some of that Khan billion dollar money i want to join the street team and why is getting another match with Moxley, people cry about Drew vs Orton and why does orton keep getting a shot but won't call out this Last edited on Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 09:52 pm by krazykid18 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 11:51 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 889th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Eddie Kingston is the best promo guy in the business right now, and you'd have to go back a few years to find someone better. He needed AEW to come along though. There's no way he would have fit into corporate WWE and they way they produce their shows. I can see him telling Vince to go fuck himself if he was told he had to memorise a script. I've been saying that for years. His promos were the best in the business 10 years ago. The problem is he comes across as a legit street thug from Yonkers instead of the corporate version of a street thug from Yonkers who's really a college drop-out from Westchester. But his ability to come across as genuinely menacing and scary is really uncanny in this era of wrestling, and his stuff in AEW doesn't even hold a candle to the shit he's done and said in the indies. He can also turn on a dime and do a little comedy or be a sincere likeable underdog. And that's not even getting into his ring work, which is fantastic. His cosmetics have always been a big negative for him, but I always found it odd he couldn't stick with at least ROH or Impact longer than the handful of shows he did for them. After following his career for so many years, it's really surreal to see him interacting with Jim Ross of all people on commentary. Talk about worlds colliding. I expect his match with Moxley at the PPV to be a CZW-worthy bloodbath. Moxley is nuts for continuing to do that shit, but I have no doubt he's going to push the envelope against Kingston here. Scary to who, he looks like those white boys that started listening to Eminem and wearing FUBU jerseys ..cmon on with this ... how much does AEW pay I need some of that Khan billion dollar money i want to join the street team and why is getting another match with Moxley, people cry about Drew vs Orton and why does orton keep getting a shot but won't call out this Did you really just compare Kingston’s 2 title shots since he’s been on the national scene for 3 months to Orton’s several thousand over the course of 15 years that seem like 50? You have no credibility. That was ridiculous. And I’m pretty sure that Kingston is Puerto Rican and not white, so stop being so racist. Last edited on Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 11:56 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2020 12:26 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 890th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Eddie Kingston is the best promo guy in the business right now, and you'd have to go back a few years to find someone better. He needed AEW to come along though. There's no way he would have fit into corporate WWE and they way they produce their shows. I can see him telling Vince to go fuck himself if he was told he had to memorise a script. I've been saying that for years. His promos were the best in the business 10 years ago. The problem is he comes across as a legit street thug from Yonkers instead of the corporate version of a street thug from Yonkers who's really a college drop-out from Westchester. But his ability to come across as genuinely menacing and scary is really uncanny in this era of wrestling, and his stuff in AEW doesn't even hold a candle to the shit he's done and said in the indies. He can also turn on a dime and do a little comedy or be a sincere likeable underdog. And that's not even getting into his ring work, which is fantastic. His cosmetics have always been a big negative for him, but I always found it odd he couldn't stick with at least ROH or Impact longer than the handful of shows he did for them. After following his career for so many years, it's really surreal to see him interacting with Jim Ross of all people on commentary. Talk about worlds colliding. I expect his match with Moxley at the PPV to be a CZW-worthy bloodbath. Moxley is nuts for continuing to do that shit, but I have no doubt he's going to push the envelope against Kingston here. Scary to who, he looks like those white boys that started listening to Eminem and wearing FUBU jerseys ..cmon on with this ... how much does AEW pay I need some of that Khan billion dollar money i want to join the street team and why is getting another match with Moxley, people cry about Drew vs Orton and why does orton keep getting a shot but won't call out this Did you really just compare Kingston’s 2 title shots since he’s been on the national scene for 3 months to Orton’s several thousand over the course of 15 years that seem like 50? You have no credibility. That was ridiculous. And I’m pretty sure that Kingston is Puerto Rican and not white, so stop being so racist. Wow we are comparing the same title shots in the same context thats one and with AEW ranking system how does a newbie just rise to the top and get multiple title shots and second you brag all the time that your wife is a teacher maybe she can educate you on race and nationality before you spew nonsense out your gay ass again Like i said before how can i get into this AEW street team that they have, i can lie about an awful product just as well and say everything is awesome Last edited on Fri Oct 23rd, 2020 12:28 am by krazykid18 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2020 12:54 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 891st Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Eddie Kingston is the best promo guy in the business right now, and you'd have to go back a few years to find someone better. He needed AEW to come along though. There's no way he would have fit into corporate WWE and they way they produce their shows. I can see him telling Vince to go fuck himself if he was told he had to memorise a script. I've been saying that for years. His promos were the best in the business 10 years ago. The problem is he comes across as a legit street thug from Yonkers instead of the corporate version of a street thug from Yonkers who's really a college drop-out from Westchester. But his ability to come across as genuinely menacing and scary is really uncanny in this era of wrestling, and his stuff in AEW doesn't even hold a candle to the shit he's done and said in the indies. He can also turn on a dime and do a little comedy or be a sincere likeable underdog. And that's not even getting into his ring work, which is fantastic. His cosmetics have always been a big negative for him, but I always found it odd he couldn't stick with at least ROH or Impact longer than the handful of shows he did for them. After following his career for so many years, it's really surreal to see him interacting with Jim Ross of all people on commentary. Talk about worlds colliding. I expect his match with Moxley at the PPV to be a CZW-worthy bloodbath. Moxley is nuts for continuing to do that shit, but I have no doubt he's going to push the envelope against Kingston here. Scary to who, he looks like those white boys that started listening to Eminem and wearing FUBU jerseys ..cmon on with this ... how much does AEW pay I need some of that Khan billion dollar money i want to join the street team and why is getting another match with Moxley, people cry about Drew vs Orton and why does orton keep getting a shot but won't call out this Did you really just compare Kingston’s 2 title shots since he’s been on the national scene for 3 months to Orton’s several thousand over the course of 15 years that seem like 50? You have no credibility. That was ridiculous. And I’m pretty sure that Kingston is Puerto Rican and not white, so stop being so racist. Wow we are comparing the same title shots in the same context thats one and with AEW ranking system how does a newbie just rise to the top and get multiple title shots and second you brag all the time that your wife is a teacher maybe she can educate you on race and nationality before you spew nonsense out your gay ass again Like i said before how can i get into this AEW street team that they have, i can lie about an awful product just as well and say everything is awesome WOW - racist AND homophobic! And quite obviously a Randy Orten fan too. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2020 12:57 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 892nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Eddie Kingston is the best promo guy in the business right now, and you'd have to go back a few years to find someone better. He needed AEW to come along though. There's no way he would have fit into corporate WWE and they way they produce their shows. I can see him telling Vince to go fuck himself if he was told he had to memorise a script. I've been saying that for years. His promos were the best in the business 10 years ago. The problem is he comes across as a legit street thug from Yonkers instead of the corporate version of a street thug from Yonkers who's really a college drop-out from Westchester. But his ability to come across as genuinely menacing and scary is really uncanny in this era of wrestling, and his stuff in AEW doesn't even hold a candle to the shit he's done and said in the indies. He can also turn on a dime and do a little comedy or be a sincere likeable underdog. And that's not even getting into his ring work, which is fantastic. His cosmetics have always been a big negative for him, but I always found it odd he couldn't stick with at least ROH or Impact longer than the handful of shows he did for them. After following his career for so many years, it's really surreal to see him interacting with Jim Ross of all people on commentary. Talk about worlds colliding. I expect his match with Moxley at the PPV to be a CZW-worthy bloodbath. Moxley is nuts for continuing to do that shit, but I have no doubt he's going to push the envelope against Kingston here. Scary to who, he looks like those white boys that started listening to Eminem and wearing FUBU jerseys ..cmon on with this ... how much does AEW pay I need some of that Khan billion dollar money i want to join the street team and why is getting another match with Moxley, people cry about Drew vs Orton and why does orton keep getting a shot but won't call out this Did you really just compare Kingston’s 2 title shots since he’s been on the national scene for 3 months to Orton’s several thousand over the course of 15 years that seem like 50? You have no credibility. That was ridiculous. And I’m pretty sure that Kingston is Puerto Rican and not white, so stop being so racist. Wow we are comparing the same title shots in the same context thats one and with AEW ranking system how does a newbie just rise to the top and get multiple title shots and second you brag all the time that your wife is a teacher maybe she can educate you on race and nationality before you spew nonsense out your gay ass again Like i said before how can i get into this AEW street team that they have, i can lie about an awful product just as well and say everything is awesome 1) I have no idea what you’re saying about the title shots at all. 2) The joke went over your head. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2020 04:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 893rd Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: He's saying that AEW used to be all about their rankings and that determined who got title shots,just like in "real" sports, but then nobody remembered and it's just typical wrestling again where they make up the feuds as they go along. ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2020 04:44 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 894th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: He's saying that AEW used to be all about their rankings and that determined who got title shots,just like in "real" sports, but then nobody remembered and it's just typical wrestling again where they make up the feuds as they go along. Not that I truly care, but you did hit the nail on the head. At times, it seems like they are making this shit up on the fly, as they go along. It makes me wonder if they are just trying to tread water during COVID and saving the really good stuff for when they can sell a lot of tickets again. If it's the latter, they are going to screw themselves because I have a feeling that social distancing is here for at least another year. But it is nice to see that possibly Kenny Omega is making an effort again. Truly wonder if he needed time to heal up, because since AEW started, he's not done anything at all risky. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2020 04:50 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 895th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Eddie Kingston is the best promo guy in the business right now, and you'd have to go back a few years to find someone better. He needed AEW to come along though. There's no way he would have fit into corporate WWE and they way they produce their shows. I can see him telling Vince to go fuck himself if he was told he had to memorise a script. I've been saying that for years. His promos were the best in the business 10 years ago. The problem is he comes across as a legit street thug from Yonkers instead of the corporate version of a street thug from Yonkers who's really a college drop-out from Westchester. But his ability to come across as genuinely menacing and scary is really uncanny in this era of wrestling, and his stuff in AEW doesn't even hold a candle to the shit he's done and said in the indies. He can also turn on a dime and do a little comedy or be a sincere likeable underdog. And that's not even getting into his ring work, which is fantastic. His cosmetics have always been a big negative for him, but I always found it odd he couldn't stick with at least ROH or Impact longer than the handful of shows he did for them. After following his career for so many years, it's really surreal to see him interacting with Jim Ross of all people on commentary. Talk about worlds colliding. I expect his match with Moxley at the PPV to be a CZW-worthy bloodbath. Moxley is nuts for continuing to do that shit, but I have no doubt he's going to push the envelope against Kingston here. Scary to who, he looks like those white boys that started listening to Eminem and wearing FUBU jerseys ..cmon on with this ... how much does AEW pay I need some of that Khan billion dollar money i want to join the street team and why is getting another match with Moxley, people cry about Drew vs Orton and why does orton keep getting a shot but won't call out this Did you really just compare Kingston’s 2 title shots since he’s been on the national scene for 3 months to Orton’s several thousand over the course of 15 years that seem like 50? You have no credibility. That was ridiculous. And I’m pretty sure that Kingston is Puerto Rican and not white, so stop being so racist. Wow we are comparing the same title shots in the same context thats one and with AEW ranking system how does a newbie just rise to the top and get multiple title shots and second you brag all the time that your wife is a teacher maybe she can educate you on race and nationality before you spew nonsense out your gay ass again Like i said before how can i get into this AEW street team that they have, i can lie about an awful product just as well and say everything is awesome 1) I have no idea what you’re saying about the title shots at all. 2) The joke went over your head. Then that joke was just as bad as the CJ vs MJF Family Guy BS they did.... <A HREF="https://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/users/155.html" TARGET="_blank">wittman2A> wrote: He's saying that AEW used to be all about their rankings and that determined who got title shots,just like in "real" sports, but then nobody remembered and it's just typical wrestling again where they make up the feuds as they go along. Srossi knew exactly what the first point was about but he is getting that Khan AEW street team money to play dumb and hype up everything AEW does. Last edited on Fri Oct 23rd, 2020 04:56 pm by krazykid18 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 03:06 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 896th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: Why is this cody vs cassidy match a lumberjack match lmao Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 01:13 pm PM Quote Reply 897th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: AEW's Serena Deeb won the NWA World Women's Title on Tuesday night on UWN Primetime Live. She then defended it on Dynamite last night. This week's Dynamite was recorded last week, so it's interesting that no one stooged the title change to the internets. Apparently Thunder Rosa is on her way to WWE. They money might be better, but there is zero chance that she gets used properly. She will get a good NXT run, but unless Vince dies, she will never get a main roster push. This will also be the end of her MMA career. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 03:00 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 898th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Why is this cody vs cassidy match a lumberjack match lmao So Cody could get in that superplex off the top rope into the lumberjacks...AEW every week now is Cody doing something else to put himself over..he is his father's son, that's for sure.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 03:19 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 899th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Why is this cody vs cassidy match a lumberjack match lmao I know, it's a match between 2 faces and they have had only the one previous match before this. Seems kind of stupid. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 03:20 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 900th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: AEW's Serena Deeb won the NWA World Women's Title on Tuesday night on UWN Primetime Live. She then defended it on Dynamite last night. This week's Dynamite was recorded last week, so it's interesting that no one stooged the title change to the internets. Apparently Thunder Rosa is on her way to WWE. They money might be better, but there is zero chance that she gets used properly. She will get a good NXT run, but unless Vince dies, she will never get a main roster push. This will also be the end of her MMA career. It' was announced the other day that Deeb had won. There a clip of the finish online. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 03:25 pm PM Quote Reply 901st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: AEW's Serena Deeb won the NWA World Women's Title on Tuesday night on UWN Primetime Live. She then defended it on Dynamite last night. This week's Dynamite was recorded last week, so it's interesting that no one stooged the title change to the internets. Apparently Thunder Rosa is on her way to WWE. They money might be better, but there is zero chance that she gets used properly. She will get a good NXT run, but unless Vince dies, she will never get a main roster push. This will also be the end of her MMA career. It' was announced the other day that Deeb had won. There a clip of the finish online. Read what I posted again. Dynamite was recorded last week. The title change match was live on Tuesday night. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 05:17 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 902nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: AEW's Serena Deeb won the NWA World Women's Title on Tuesday night on UWN Primetime Live. She then defended it on Dynamite last night. This week's Dynamite was recorded last week, so it's interesting that no one stooged the title change to the internets. Apparently Thunder Rosa is on her way to WWE. They money might be better, but there is zero chance that she gets used properly. She will get a good NXT run, but unless Vince dies, she will never get a main roster push. This will also be the end of her MMA career. Honestly how good is Thunder Rosa compared to most of the women in WWE though? I haven’t exactly been blown away by her in the NWA or AEW. And the level of female competition she’s faced is definitely lacking. She’ll never have more buzz than she has right now so it’s best for her to take the money and then market herself as a “former WWE Superstar” in 2 years when she’s inevitably back on the indy scene. I’d probably rank Ember Moon ahead of her and look how she’s been booked. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 05:34 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 903rd Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: AEW's Serena Deeb won the NWA World Women's Title on Tuesday night on UWN Primetime Live. She then defended it on Dynamite last night. This week's Dynamite was recorded last week, so it's interesting that no one stooged the title change to the internets. Apparently Thunder Rosa is on her way to WWE. They money might be better, but there is zero chance that she gets used properly. She will get a good NXT run, but unless Vince dies, she will never get a main roster push. This will also be the end of her MMA career. It' was announced the other day that Deeb had won. There a clip of the finish online. Read what I posted again. Dynamite was recorded last week. The title change match was live on Tuesday night. Ahh, just saw that. My bad, Yo! Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 05:34 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 904th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: AEW's Serena Deeb won the NWA World Women's Title on Tuesday night on UWN Primetime Live. She then defended it on Dynamite last night. This week's Dynamite was recorded last week, so it's interesting that no one stooged the title change to the internets. Apparently Thunder Rosa is on her way to WWE. They money might be better, but there is zero chance that she gets used properly. She will get a good NXT run, but unless Vince dies, she will never get a main roster push. This will also be the end of her MMA career. Honestly how good is Thunder Rosa compared to most of the women in WWE though? I haven’t exactly been blown away by her in the NWA or AEW. And the level of female competition she’s faced is definitely lacking. She’ll never have more buzz than she has right now so it’s best for her to take the money and then market herself as a “former WWE Superstar” in 2 years when she’s inevitably back on the indy scene. I’d probably rank Ember Moon ahead of her and look how she’s been booked. NWA President Billy Corgan recently responded to a fan on Instagram who asked about Rosa's situation, where Corgan revealed that the former women's champion is under contract with NWA until 2021. Corgan states, "You have to love press and media reports that don’t contact the company she is under contract to but instead listen to someone who has my email address but doesn’t write and ask. She’s under contract thru 2021 and there’s a reason for that [it’s called excellence and faith)." Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 05:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 905th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: AEW's Serena Deeb won the NWA World Women's Title on Tuesday night on UWN Primetime Live. She then defended it on Dynamite last night. This week's Dynamite was recorded last week, so it's interesting that no one stooged the title change to the internets. Apparently Thunder Rosa is on her way to WWE. They money might be better, but there is zero chance that she gets used properly. She will get a good NXT run, but unless Vince dies, she will never get a main roster push. This will also be the end of her MMA career. It' was announced the other day that Deeb had won. There a clip of the finish online. Read what I posted again. Dynamite was recorded last week. The title change match was live on Tuesday night. Excalibur: “You notice that Thunder Rosa’s face is still on it (the belt). Serena Deeb, after defeating Thunder Rosa, went straight to the airport to come here to Jacksonville to defend the title tonight.” You have to love AEW’s attention to detail in explaining some of the bullshit. WWE wouldn’t even bother because wrestling fans are stupid. Last edited on Thu Oct 29th, 2020 05:41 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 07:05 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 906th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: The Serena Deeb vs. Leyla Hirsh bout that aired on AEW Dynamite wasn't originally slated for the broadcast, or even slated to take place. Initially, the episode was slated to feature Taynara Conti vs. Abadon but just a few minutes into that match, Abadon caught by accident with a hard strike to the throat, leading to the match being stopped and her being taken to the hospital as a precaution to make sure there was no serious injury. Deeb and Hirsch were then tapped to put together a match and then hit the ring 15-20 minutes later, tearing down the house with a great bout. The performance pretty much guaranteed you'll be seeing a lot more of Hirsch in AEW going forward we are told. Hirsch, 23, has been wrestling for several years and has a great back story. She and her twin sister were adopted from Russia at a young age, which is why she was billed from Moscow last night. Hirsch was a standout amateur wrestler in New Jersey and has shown a great aptitude for the business from her earliest matches in 2017. She initially broke in with CZW and has toured Japan for STARDOM. We are told Abadon was OK. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 07:34 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 907th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: General AEW comment but I absolutely hate the way they’ve brought back Pentagon’s arm snap move only to neuter it. In Lucha Underground, that move literally broke your arm and you’d be off the show for 3 months or forever. In AEW, he uses it and the guy continues to wrestle. Pentagon didn’t use it in AEW up until a few weeks ago and that was probably for the best because on this environment you can’t keep writing guys off with broken arms, but they should’ve kept it buried. They could’ve brought it back for a big angle later when someone really was going to take time off anyway. To use it against Omega, and then not only have Omega win but continue to the tournament finals against Page is ridiculous. Omega sold the arm after the match, but come on. It either breaks your arm or it doesn’t. Last edited on Thu Oct 29th, 2020 07:36 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 08:01 pm PM Quote Reply 908th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: PWInsider: The Serena Deeb vs. Leyla Hirsh bout that aired on AEW Dynamite wasn't originally slated for the broadcast, or even slated to take place. Initially, the episode was slated to feature Taynara Conti vs. Abadon but just a few minutes into that match, Abadon caught by accident with a hard strike to the throat, leading to the match being stopped and her being taken to the hospital as a precaution to make sure there was no serious injury. Deeb and Hirsch were then tapped to put together a match and then hit the ring 15-20 minutes later, tearing down the house with a great bout. The performance pretty much guaranteed you'll be seeing a lot more of Hirsch in AEW going forward we are told. Hirsch, 23, has been wrestling for several years and has a great back story. She and her twin sister were adopted from Russia at a young age, which is why she was billed from Moscow last night. Hirsch was a standout amateur wrestler in New Jersey and has shown a great aptitude for the business from her earliest matches in 2017. She initially broke in with CZW and has toured Japan for STARDOM. We are told Abadon was OK. This is clearly bullshit. Why would Deeb be there with the belt she wasn't going to win until 5 days later, if she wasn't booked to appear with the belt? Meltzer reported that the Spears squash match was the make-up match, which makes 1000% more sense. They announced the match at the last minute because they had to wait until after the UWN PPV. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 08:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 909th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: AEW's Serena Deeb won the NWA World Women's Title on Tuesday night on UWN Primetime Live. She then defended it on Dynamite last night. This week's Dynamite was recorded last week, so it's interesting that no one stooged the title change to the internets. Apparently Thunder Rosa is on her way to WWE. They money might be better, but there is zero chance that she gets used properly. She will get a good NXT run, but unless Vince dies, she will never get a main roster push. This will also be the end of her MMA career. It' was announced the other day that Deeb had won. There a clip of the finish online. Read what I posted again. Dynamite was recorded last week. The title change match was live on Tuesday night. Excalibur: “You notice that Thunder Rosa’s face is still on it (the belt). Serena Deeb, after defeating Thunder Rosa, went straight to the airport to come here to Jacksonville to defend the title tonight.” You have to love AEW’s attention to detail in explaining some of the bullshit. WWE wouldn’t even bother because wrestling fans are stupid. Explain why Cody vs Cassidy was a lumberjack match please explain that logic and this stupid angle between jericho and MJF like why would MJF a heel be crying to get into Inner Circle and the foolish match stipulation Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 08:37 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 910th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: PWInsider: The Serena Deeb vs. Leyla Hirsh bout that aired on AEW Dynamite wasn't originally slated for the broadcast, or even slated to take place. Initially, the episode was slated to feature Taynara Conti vs. Abadon but just a few minutes into that match, Abadon caught by accident with a hard strike to the throat, leading to the match being stopped and her being taken to the hospital as a precaution to make sure there was no serious injury. Deeb and Hirsch were then tapped to put together a match and then hit the ring 15-20 minutes later, tearing down the house with a great bout. The performance pretty much guaranteed you'll be seeing a lot more of Hirsch in AEW going forward we are told. Hirsch, 23, has been wrestling for several years and has a great back story. She and her twin sister were adopted from Russia at a young age, which is why she was billed from Moscow last night. Hirsch was a standout amateur wrestler in New Jersey and has shown a great aptitude for the business from her earliest matches in 2017. She initially broke in with CZW and has toured Japan for STARDOM. We are told Abadon was OK. I checked out a few matches of Hirsh online and she's pretty good. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 08:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 911th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: AEW's Serena Deeb won the NWA World Women's Title on Tuesday night on UWN Primetime Live. She then defended it on Dynamite last night. This week's Dynamite was recorded last week, so it's interesting that no one stooged the title change to the internets. Apparently Thunder Rosa is on her way to WWE. They money might be better, but there is zero chance that she gets used properly. She will get a good NXT run, but unless Vince dies, she will never get a main roster push. This will also be the end of her MMA career. It' was announced the other day that Deeb had won. There a clip of the finish online. Read what I posted again. Dynamite was recorded last week. The title change match was live on Tuesday night. Excalibur: “You notice that Thunder Rosa’s face is still on it (the belt). Serena Deeb, after defeating Thunder Rosa, went straight to the airport to come here to Jacksonville to defend the title tonight.” You have to love AEW’s attention to detail in explaining some of the bullshit. WWE wouldn’t even bother because wrestling fans are stupid. Explain why Cody vs Cassidy was a lumberjack match please explain that logic and this stupid angle between jericho and MJF like why would MJF a heel be crying to get into Inner Circle and the foolish match stipulation How can I explain an angle that’s barely started yet? Why don’t you see where MJF-Jericho goes first? That’s a ridiculous critique. And they built up to MJF finally swallowing his pride and asking to join for months, so he’s not suddenly “crying” to get in. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 09:05 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 912th Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: How can I explain an angle that’s barely started yet? Why don’t you see where MJF-Jericho goes first? That’s a ridiculous critique. And they built up to MJF finally swallowing his pride and asking to join for months, so he’s not suddenly “crying” to get in. Can you explain the lumberjack stipulation in the Orange Cassidy/Cody match? Or why Miro is in a lower midcard feud over a broken video game? ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 09:08 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 913th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: How can I explain an angle that’s barely started yet? Why don’t you see where MJF-Jericho goes first? That’s a ridiculous critique. And they built up to MJF finally swallowing his pride and asking to join for months, so he’s not suddenly “crying” to get in. Can you explain the lumberjack stipulation in the Orange Cassidy/Cody match? Or why Miro is in a lower midcard feud over a broken video game? I have no idea about the lumberjack match and I’ve already posted about how stupid the Miro gamer gimmick is. I never would’ve debuted him like that. Miro is a legit gamer with a Twitch channel and wanted to do this, and AEW lets guys take control of their own characters. It’s worked for a lot of guys, but I think it’s beyond dumb for Miro. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2020 09:49 pm PM Quote Reply 914th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: How can I explain an angle that’s barely started yet? Why don’t you see where MJF-Jericho goes first? That’s a ridiculous critique. And they built up to MJF finally swallowing his pride and asking to join for months, so he’s not suddenly “crying” to get in. Can you explain the lumberjack stipulation in the Orange Cassidy/Cody match? Or why Miro is in a lower midcard feud over a broken video game? I have no idea about the lumberjack match and I’ve already posted about how stupid the Miro gamer gimmick is. I never would’ve debuted him like that. Miro is a legit gamer with a Twitch channel and wanted to do this, and AEW lets guys take control of their own characters. It’s worked for a lot of guys, but I think it’s beyond dumb for Miro. The reason for the lumberjack match was due to previous interference from the Dark Order, the idea being that the other lumberjacks would cancel them out. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2020 11:48 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 915th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW has announced that PAC will finally return this week. He’s been stuck overseas since the beginning of Covid. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2020 05:06 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 916th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: After AEW Dynamite went off the air tonight on TNT, AEW TNT Champion Cody Runnels announced to the live crowd in Jacksonville, Florida that "as of this morning", he once again had two names and whether Justin Roberts announced him as such or not, he could again use "Cody Rhodes." Cody had not been able to use it since departing WWE despite his family using the surname dating back decades to his father, WWE Hall of Famer Dusty Rhodes, since Runnels had not used the name prior to his time under a WWE contract. Earlier today, our own Steven Fernandes reported that Cody expressly abandoned trademark applications he had filed for 'Slamboree' and 'The Match Beyond' with prejudice (meaning he could not return and attempt to claim them down the line) and that WWE have accepted and dropped their opposition for each trademark. Cody also abandoned trademark applications for Superbrawl, Bunkhouse Stampede, and Battlebowl on 10/30. Those were never opposed by WWE and had already passed the opposition phase. As I discussed earlier today in the Elite section, the same day, WWE abandoned their claim to the "Cody Rhodes" trademark, so it appears that Cody and WWE came to some sort of agreement that allowed each other access to the trademarks they wanted. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2020 12:59 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 917th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Eddie Kingston is getting major press ahead of Full Gear and this is one of about a dozen similar stories I’ve seen in him today. He’s been profiled by SI, ESPN, and others too. <A HREF="https://nypost.com/2020/11/04/eddie-kingstons-improbable-18-year-odyssey-to-chance-at-aew-glory/" TARGET="_blank">https://nypost.com/2020/11/04/eddie-kingstons-improbable-18-year-odyssey-to-chance-at-aew-glory/A> ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2020 08:03 pm PM Quote Reply 918th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Holy shit, Jim Ross looks like he's on death's door. He looks like he's aged 20 years in the last 6 months. He has a 'I'm dying of Covid19 look", although I know he's tested by AEW and hasn't tested positive. No disrespect intended. Maybe stress after Jan passed away? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2020 11:36 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 919th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: Holy shit, Jim Ross looks like he's on death's door. He looks like he's aged 20 years in the last 6 months. He has a 'I'm dying of Covid19 look", although I know he's tested by AEW and hasn't tested positive. No disrespect intended. Maybe stress after Jan passed away? Rumor has it that his drinking has ramped up " a bit". Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 03:25 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 920th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Watching Tully patrol ringside during the Shawn Spears/Scorpio Sky match reminded me a lot of #1 Paul Jones. If he got loud and vocal, he would be exactly like him. He tries to sneak up as if he’s going to hit Sky from behind, then backs off. Jones used to do that all the time. Little things mean a lot in the psychology of the sport, and WWE has no desire to do this. I’m more interested in watching Tully Blanchard roam outside the ring than anything that goes on inside a WWE ring, and that’s just plain sad. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 03:32 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 921st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW teased a Cody vs. Shaq match. Shaq was supposed to wrestle for WWE for years and it never did happen. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 03:42 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 922nd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW teased a Cody vs. Shaq match. Shaq was supposed to wrestle for WWE for years and it never did happen. Well - Shaq has no contractual reason not to now since both guys have TNT contracts. It could be cross promoted between AEW, NBA on TNT/TBS, and that game show that Cody is a part of. And Cody could put something together that would work. Plus, Tony Khan will pay to get Shaq onboard if need be. I still think it would’ve been a lot of fun to watch Shaq vs Big Show but that won’t ever happen now. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 11:25 am PM Quote Reply 923rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW teased a Cody vs. Shaq match. Shaq was supposed to wrestle for WWE for years and it never did happen. Well - Shaq has no contractual reason not to now since both guys have TNT contracts. It could be cross promoted between AEW, NBA on TNT/TBS, and that game show that Cody is a part of. And Cody could put something together that would work. Plus, Tony Khan will pay to get Shaq onboard if need be. I still think it would’ve been a lot of fun to watch Shaq vs Big Show but that won’t ever happen now. That Jade Cargill promo was the drizzling shits. An easy contender for the worst segment in AEW history. The most over person at the end of all that was Jerry Lynn. Thumbtack jacket? WTF? With Will Hobbs clearly missing his cue and running in when it was all over as the icing on the cake. Apart from the crazy main event, that was a pretty crap episode of Dynamite, probably the worst ever, especially disappointing given how off the charts great Saturday's PPV was. If you've been pining for blood in wrestling you may have enjoyed the bunkhouse match, but it's not for me in 2020. Last edited on Thu Nov 12th, 2020 12:07 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 01:46 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 924th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW teased a Cody vs. Shaq match. Shaq was supposed to wrestle for WWE for years and it never did happen. Well - Shaq has no contractual reason not to now since both guys have TNT contracts. It could be cross promoted between AEW, NBA on TNT/TBS, and that game show that Cody is a part of. And Cody could put something together that would work. Plus, Tony Khan will pay to get Shaq onboard if need be. I still think it would’ve been a lot of fun to watch Shaq vs Big Show but that won’t ever happen now. That Jade Cargill promo was the drizzling shits. An easy contender for the worst segment in AEW history. The most over person at the end of all that was Jerry Lynn. Thumbtack jacket? WTF? With Will Hobbs clearly missing his cue and running in when it was all over as the icing on the cake. Apart from the crazy main event, that was a pretty crap episode of Dynamite, probably the worst ever, especially disappointing given how off the charts great Saturday's PPV was. If you've been pining for blood in wrestling you may have enjoyed the bunkhouse match, but it's not for me in 2020. I follow Jade Cargill on instagram for years and i had no idea she was a wrestler probably too busy staring at her brolic ass... But again it is 2020 and people still book black females in this sassy hood bitch roles even Cody wife came out there and started doing her best white girl imitating hood impression almost as bad as Dawkins who sounds like a Shakespearian actor when he is in the Street Profits.... But wrestling needs this 4 way dream match to happen, Bayley vs Naomi vs Toni Storm vs Jade Cargill ...winner gets to let me give them backshots for 5 mins.. Last edited on Thu Nov 12th, 2020 01:46 pm by krazykid18 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 03:17 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 925th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW teased a Cody vs. Shaq match. Shaq was supposed to wrestle for WWE for years and it never did happen. Well - Shaq has no contractual reason not to now since both guys have TNT contracts. It could be cross promoted between AEW, NBA on TNT/TBS, and that game show that Cody is a part of. And Cody could put something together that would work. Plus, Tony Khan will pay to get Shaq onboard if need be. I still think it would’ve been a lot of fun to watch Shaq vs Big Show but that won’t ever happen now. That Jade Cargill promo was the drizzling shits. An easy contender for the worst segment in AEW history. The most over person at the end of all that was Jerry Lynn. Thumbtack jacket? WTF? With Will Hobbs clearly missing his cue and running in when it was all over as the icing on the cake. Apart from the crazy main event, that was a pretty crap episode of Dynamite, probably the worst ever, especially disappointing given how off the charts great Saturday's PPV was. If you've been pining for blood in wrestling you may have enjoyed the bunkhouse match, but it's not for me in 2020. I follow Jade Cargill on instagram for years and i had no idea she was a wrestler probably too busy staring at her brolic ass... But again it is 2020 and people still book black females in this sassy hood bitch roles even Cody wife came out there and started doing her best white girl imitating hood impression almost as bad as Dawkins who sounds like a Shakespearian actor when he is in the Street Profits.... But wrestling needs this 4 way dream match to happen, Bayley vs Naomi vs Toni Storm vs Jade Cargill ...winner gets to let me give them backshots for 5 mins.. I laughed my ass off when Brandi ran out and started talking ghetto. She changed her entire voice. We've been listening to her talk for a year and a half in AEW and now she sounds like THAT all of a sudden? It was actually pretty offensive if you're offended by that kind of thing. It's almost like she was back in WWE and Vince said, "Brandi, you may not realize this but you're a Negress, so we need you to start talking more like one. Now go out there and be uppity, and then wash my bed sheets." What the fuck were they thinking? Laughably bad segment. And I have no idea who this Jade person is, or why she showed up like I should know her with no introduction, but I never want to see her again. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 03:51 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 926th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW teased a Cody vs. Shaq match. Shaq was supposed to wrestle for WWE for years and it never did happen. Well - Shaq has no contractual reason not to now since both guys have TNT contracts. It could be cross promoted between AEW, NBA on TNT/TBS, and that game show that Cody is a part of. And Cody could put something together that would work. Plus, Tony Khan will pay to get Shaq onboard if need be. I still think it would’ve been a lot of fun to watch Shaq vs Big Show but that won’t ever happen now. That Jade Cargill promo was the drizzling shits. An easy contender for the worst segment in AEW history. The most over person at the end of all that was Jerry Lynn. Thumbtack jacket? WTF? With Will Hobbs clearly missing his cue and running in when it was all over as the icing on the cake. Apart from the crazy main event, that was a pretty crap episode of Dynamite, probably the worst ever, especially disappointing given how off the charts great Saturday's PPV was. If you've been pining for blood in wrestling you may have enjoyed the bunkhouse match, but it's not for me in 2020. I follow Jade Cargill on instagram for years and i had no idea she was a wrestler probably too busy staring at her brolic ass... But again it is 2020 and people still book black females in this sassy hood bitch roles even Cody wife came out there and started doing her best white girl imitating hood impression almost as bad as Dawkins who sounds like a Shakespearian actor when he is in the Street Profits.... But wrestling needs this 4 way dream match to happen, Bayley vs Naomi vs Toni Storm vs Jade Cargill ...winner gets to let me give them backshots for 5 mins.. I laughed my ass off when Brandi ran out and started talking ghetto. She changed her entire voice. We've been listening to her talk for a year and a half in AEW and now she sounds like THAT all of a sudden? It was actually pretty offensive if you're offended by that kind of thing. It's almost like she was back in WWE and Vince said, "Brandi, you may not realize this but you're a Negress, so we need you to start talking more like one. Now go out there and be uppity, and then wash my bed sheets." What the fuck were they thinking? Laughably bad segment. And I have no idea who this Jade person is, or why she showed up like I should know her with no introduction, but I never want to see her again. With her look and her fitness background they could have brought her out better than that..... and is Shaq vs Cody something any human being wants too see... Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 03:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 927th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW teased a Cody vs. Shaq match. Shaq was supposed to wrestle for WWE for years and it never did happen. Well - Shaq has no contractual reason not to now since both guys have TNT contracts. It could be cross promoted between AEW, NBA on TNT/TBS, and that game show that Cody is a part of. And Cody could put something together that would work. Plus, Tony Khan will pay to get Shaq onboard if need be. I still think it would’ve been a lot of fun to watch Shaq vs Big Show but that won’t ever happen now. That Jade Cargill promo was the drizzling shits. An easy contender for the worst segment in AEW history. The most over person at the end of all that was Jerry Lynn. Thumbtack jacket? WTF? With Will Hobbs clearly missing his cue and running in when it was all over as the icing on the cake. Apart from the crazy main event, that was a pretty crap episode of Dynamite, probably the worst ever, especially disappointing given how off the charts great Saturday's PPV was. If you've been pining for blood in wrestling you may have enjoyed the bunkhouse match, but it's not for me in 2020. I follow Jade Cargill on instagram for years and i had no idea she was a wrestler probably too busy staring at her brolic ass... But again it is 2020 and people still book black females in this sassy hood bitch roles even Cody wife came out there and started doing her best white girl imitating hood impression almost as bad as Dawkins who sounds like a Shakespearian actor when he is in the Street Profits.... But wrestling needs this 4 way dream match to happen, Bayley vs Naomi vs Toni Storm vs Jade Cargill ...winner gets to let me give them backshots for 5 mins.. I laughed my ass off when Brandi ran out and started talking ghetto. She changed her entire voice. We've been listening to her talk for a year and a half in AEW and now she sounds like THAT all of a sudden? It was actually pretty offensive if you're offended by that kind of thing. It's almost like she was back in WWE and Vince said, "Brandi, you may not realize this but you're a Negress, so we need you to start talking more like one. Now go out there and be uppity, and then wash my bed sheets." What the fuck were they thinking? Laughably bad segment. And I have no idea who this Jade person is, or why she showed up like I should know her with no introduction, but I never want to see her again. With her look and her fitness background they could have brought her out better than that..... and is Shaq vs Cody something any human being wants too see... They should do Shaq vs. Cage or Wardlow or even Hager. Makes no sense against a little guy like Cody, and no matter who wins everyone is going to look bad. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 04:03 pm PM Quote Reply 928th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: She's another QT Marshall trainer. Obviously she was doing crunches during promo class. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 04:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 929th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Also, Peter Avalon is back to being "Pretty", his CWFH persona, and I guess the librarian gimmick is over. I think there may have been a 5-second break-up between him and Leva Bates on Dark. I wish they would spend some more time on these drastic personality changes. Dark is a 9 hour show some weeks, so they could've spent 5 minutes trying to make sense of this new/old gimmick since no one watches CWFH. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 05:51 pm PM Quote Reply 930th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Also, Peter Avalon is back to being "Pretty", his CWFH persona, and I guess the librarian gimmick is over. I think there may have been a 5-second break-up between him and Leva Bates on Dark. I wish they would spend some more time on these drastic personality changes. Dark is a 9 hour show some weeks, so they could've spent 5 minutes trying to make sense of this new/old gimmick since no one watches CWFH. The Librarians splitting story was told over months. Avalon was teasing Cutler about losing every match, and Cutler would always point out that Avalon also lost every match. This went on for a few weeks until the Bucks put them together as a tag team. Is was meant to be a rib, but Bates thought it was a good idea. As a tag team they kept losing and Avalon was annoyed that Cutler refused to cheat to win. Bates sided with Cutler and thought they shouldn't cheat. In the match when they split as a team, it wasn't clear whose side Bates was on. In the first two of their three singles matches, she came out with him, but seemed to favouring Cutler. In the final, there must be winner match, she came out first and wasn't in either corner and after the match Avalon ditched her. AEW should be paying me to recap these angles for you. For a B-show angle it was actually quite intricate and well thought out. Last edited on Thu Nov 12th, 2020 05:54 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 05:55 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 931st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Also, Peter Avalon is back to being "Pretty", his CWFH persona, and I guess the librarian gimmick is over. I think there may have been a 5-second break-up between him and Leva Bates on Dark. I wish they would spend some more time on these drastic personality changes. Dark is a 9 hour show some weeks, so they could've spent 5 minutes trying to make sense of this new/old gimmick since no one watches CWFH. The Librarians splitting story was told over months. Avalon was teasing Cutler about losing every match, and Cutler would always point out that Avalon also lost every match. This went on for a few weeks until the Bucks put them together as a tag team. Is was meant to a rib, but Bates thought it was a good idea. As a tag team they kept losing and Avalon was annoyed that Cutler refused to cheat to win. Bates sided with Cutler and thought they shouldn't cheat. In the match when they split as a team, it wasn't clear whose side Bates was on. In the first two of their three singles matches, she came out with him, but seemed to favouring Cutler. In the final, there must be winner match, she came out first and wasn't in either corner and after the match Avalon ditched her. AEW should be paying me to recap these angles for you. For a B-show angle it was actually quite intricate and well thought out. I just skip through Dark and watch a few matches here and there that seem interesting, so I guess I missed most of the build. I did watch the blow-off between Avalon and Cutler and I have to say the announcers really don't do a good job explaining anything. We talked about this before. In between WWE treating fans like retarded cats and AEW assuming every fan has no life and watches every online show they produce no matter how obscure, there has to be a happy medium. They're a big time company, hire someone to put together a video package every once in a while. And I still don't think this explains the switch to the "Pretty Peter" character, which you have to know from CWFH. Last edited on Thu Nov 12th, 2020 05:57 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 06:03 pm PM Quote Reply 932nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Given the last 10+ years of WWE booking, you are holding AEW to a strangely high standard! You must have been so pissed when Chuck Palumbo became a mechanic for no reason. Last edited on Thu Nov 12th, 2020 06:03 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 06:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 933rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Given the last 10+ years of WWE booking, you are holding AEW to a strangely high standard! You must have been so pissed when Chuck Palumbo became a mechanic for no reason. I do hold AEW to higher standards because I know when they want to, their attention to detail is super-human. But they get sloppy with some things too. But either way, the video recap part is not an unreasonable request. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 06:35 pm PM Quote Reply 934th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Given the last 10+ years of WWE booking, you are holding AEW to a strangely high standard! You must have been so pissed when Chuck Palumbo became a mechanic for no reason. I do hold AEW to higher standards because I know when they want to, their attention to detail is super-human. But they get sloppy with some things too. But either way, the video recap part is not an unreasonable request. There is a Dynamite preview show on YouTube every Wednesday which does some of that. I think. Even I don't watch that one. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 06:38 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 935th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Given the last 10+ years of WWE booking, you are holding AEW to a strangely high standard! You must have been so pissed when Chuck Palumbo became a mechanic for no reason. I do hold AEW to higher standards because I know when they want to, their attention to detail is super-human. But they get sloppy with some things too. But either way, the video recap part is not an unreasonable request. There is a Dynamite preview show on YouTube every Wednesday which does some of that. I think. Even I don't watch that one. Yeah I'm not watching another YouTube show. They need to integrate some of this Dark and BTE stuff into Dynamite, or if Dark is totally separate (as it seems to be with many undercard guys) then do a video package there. But some of these Dark guys wind up on Dynamite and they're acting like we should know what's going on, like a major angle involving Bunny betraying the Nightmare Family to join Eddie Kingston. How do you not recap that better? And BTE is never ever recapped, even though it feeds into some angles. It's not even an official AEW property, and I never watch it. So they just really need to tighten some of this stuff up as they grow. Last edited on Thu Nov 12th, 2020 06:39 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 10:12 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 936th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tony Khan is doing a lot of teasing on Twitter. "Thank you everyone who watched #AEWDynamite last night! A shift in wrestling’s balance of power has begun & the winners will be the wrestling fans. PAC’s returned after 8 months & I have aces up the sleeve in the weeks ahead. You won’t get them all at once but you’ll get them all" — Tony Khan (@tonykhan) November 12, 2020 ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2020 11:04 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 937th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW teased a Cody vs. Shaq match. Shaq was supposed to wrestle for WWE for years and it never did happen. Well - Shaq has no contractual reason not to now since both guys have TNT contracts. It could be cross promoted between AEW, NBA on TNT/TBS, and that game show that Cody is a part of. And Cody could put something together that would work. Plus, Tony Khan will pay to get Shaq onboard if need be. I still think it would’ve been a lot of fun to watch Shaq vs Big Show but that won’t ever happen now. That Jade Cargill promo was the drizzling shits. An easy contender for the worst segment in AEW history. The most over person at the end of all that was Jerry Lynn. Thumbtack jacket? WTF? With Will Hobbs clearly missing his cue and running in when it was all over as the icing on the cake. Apart from the crazy main event, that was a pretty crap episode of Dynamite, probably the worst ever, especially disappointing given how off the charts great Saturday's PPV was. If you've been pining for blood in wrestling you may have enjoyed the bunkhouse match, but it's not for me in 2020. I follow Jade Cargill on instagram for years and i had no idea she was a wrestler probably too busy staring at her brolic ass... But again it is 2020 and people still book black females in this sassy hood bitch roles even Cody wife came out there and started doing her best white girl imitating hood impression almost as bad as Dawkins who sounds like a Shakespearian actor when he is in the Street Profits.... But wrestling needs this 4 way dream match to happen, Bayley vs Naomi vs Toni Storm vs Jade Cargill ...winner gets to let me give them backshots for 5 mins.. Apparently, Dawkins got a white girl pregos, score one for the Black man! Also, Toni Storm has the best Ass out of the 4 mentioned. Last edited on Thu Nov 12th, 2020 11:05 pm by freebirdsforever2019 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2020 01:33 pm PM Quote Reply 938th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: From The Obsersver web site: A day after her debut on Dynamite, AEW announced that Jade Cargill is now under a multi-year contract. Cargill, who played basketball at Jacksonville State University, debuted Wednesday to confront Cody Rhodes as an apparent representative of Shaquille O'Neal. Brandi Rhodes then showed up to address Cargill, teasing a mixed tag with O'Neal and Cargill against Cody and Brandi. "I joined AEW because here I have a voice," Cargill said in a press release. "I'm ready to shake up the women's division and I'm going to flip this promotion on its head." Cargill, 28, is a fitness model who offers diet and exercise subscription plans on her website in addition to having a master's degree in child psychology. Cargill was part of a tryout camp at the WWE Performance Center in April 2019, according to WWE.com. "We're committed to expanding the AEW women's division by signing great athletes," said AEW CEO Tony Khan. "Jade is an amazing athlete, and she's an exciting addition to our women's roster." A couple of things here. Seeing how awful her debut was, I wouldn't be boasting that I'd signed her to a multi-year contract. They did not imply at all that they were setting up a mixed tag match, so this is either inside info or guesswork. Cargill barely got over that she was a wrestler, and came off as just a messenger. Having a mixed match where the two people who have never wrestled before (the WM battle royal does not count) are on the same team seems to be a bad idea. I know that this deal isn't about how many stars the match gets, but this could be Jenna vs Sharmell if they don't work very hard behind the scenes given how much they botched the segment on Dynamite. Brandi's promo was pretty good, but I think she might have been legit pissed off that Cargill was so bad. I guess if they can use Shaq to get more eyeballs on AEW then this all works out, but they are heading into WrestleCrap territory. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2020 02:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 939th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: From The Obsersver web site: A day after her debut on Dynamite, AEW announced that Jade Cargill is now under a multi-year contract. Cargill, who played basketball at Jacksonville State University, debuted Wednesday to confront Cody Rhodes as an apparent representative of Shaquille O'Neal. Brandi Rhodes then showed up to address Cargill, teasing a mixed tag with O'Neal and Cargill against Cody and Brandi. "I joined AEW because here I have a voice," Cargill said in a press release. "I'm ready to shake up the women's division and I'm going to flip this promotion on its head." Cargill, 28, is a fitness model who offers diet and exercise subscription plans on her website in addition to having a master's degree in child psychology. Cargill was part of a tryout camp at the WWE Performance Center in April 2019, according to WWE.com. "We're committed to expanding the AEW women's division by signing great athletes," said AEW CEO Tony Khan. "Jade is an amazing athlete, and she's an exciting addition to our women's roster." A couple of things here. Seeing how awful her debut was, I wouldn't be boasting that I'd signed her to a multi-year contract. They did not imply at all that they were setting up a mixed tag match, so this is either inside info or guesswork. Cargill barely got over that she was a wrestler, and came off as just a messenger. Having a mixed match where the two people who have never wrestled before (the WM battle royal does not count) are on the same team seems to be a bad idea. I know that this deal isn't about how many stars the match gets, but this could be Jenna vs Sharmell if they don't work very hard behind the scenes given how much they botched the segment on Dynamite. Brandi's promo was pretty good, but I think she might have been legit pissed off that Cargill was so bad. I guess if they can use Shaq to get more eyeballs on AEW then this all works out, but they are heading into WrestleCrap territory. With all the women AEW already have under contract, why would Brandi and Jade be the ones in a mixed tag match with the celebrity who's never wrestled before? Brandi is barely competent in the ring, but I gave her credit for seeming to realize this and keeping her matches on Dark. Jade has never wrestled and after this week, she did nothing to make me want to see if she can ever figure it out. I don't even understand why Cody and Shaq are supposed to have a beef or how they can have a competent match, but adding in those 2 women spells disaster. At this point, I think it would've even been more interesting to to have Nyla Rose do it so she can at least get the big bodyslam spot of Shaq in that can make Sportscenter, not that Sportscenter matters anymore. This whole match is so random you might as well have drawn 4 names out of a hat out of every person on the planet. Last edited on Fri Nov 13th, 2020 02:43 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2020 05:46 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 940th Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: I say this with the utmost appreciation for his work: Peter Avalon should never win a match ever. At least not cleanly. ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2020 01:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 941st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tony Schiavone hypes this Wednesday’s Dynamite, Mid-Atlantic style. This is awesome. <A HREF="https://fb.watch/1NujnSdQfA/" TARGET="_blank">https://fb.watch/1NujnSdQfA/A> Last edited on Mon Nov 16th, 2020 01:01 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2020 01:18 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 942nd Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tony Schiavone hypes this Wednesday’s Dynamite, Mid-Atlantic style. This is awesome. <A HREF="https://fb.watch/1NujnSdQfA/" TARGET="_blank">https://fb.watch/1NujnSdQfA/A> Agreed. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2020 02:17 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 943rd Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: So Jade is a heel, I guess? And she's promoting Shaq....so that makes Shaq a heel also, I guess? ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2020 09:27 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 944th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="https://youtu.be/u5jtaAnSyXk" TARGET="_blank">https://youtu.be/u5jtaAnSyXkA> Today, TNT announced a new ad campaign to promote its popular All Elite Wrestling program, “AEW Dynamite,” which is currently the number one wrestling show on Wednesday nights. The new ad is part of AEW’s “Boundless” campaign and was created and directed by Director X (Julien Christian Lutz), who is an award-winning music video and movie director best known for his visually distinctive videos for popular artists including Drake, Kendrick Lamar, Rihanna, Jay-Z, Kanye West, Usher, John Mayer and many more. Director X’s accolades include winning Video Director of the Year at the 2016 BET Awards, Best Hip Hop Video at the 2020 BET Hip Hop Awards and Best Video at the 2020 MTV European Music Awards. Celebrating the world-class roster of diverse male and female wrestlers, “Boundless” tells the underdog story of the stars of AEW, who, with a true passion for the sport, bet on themselves and created a new kind of wrestling league, drawing millions of fans to their dynamic, action-packed TNT “AEW Dynamite” weekly events. “Director X is the perfect partner to showcase the AEW brand with his distinct visual style that uniquely speaks to a new generation,” said Melissa Chambless, EVP of Marketing, TNT, TBS and truTV. “His ability to bring these wrestlers’ incredible stories to life in such an authentic way thoroughly manifests our Boundless campaign.” “Like me, I think a lot of people will relate to the stories shared in this video,” said Director X. “I know what it’s like to be doubted, being told ‘you can’t do this,’ but AEW is proof that by believing in yourself and not listening to what the world is saying you can and will do it. This isn’t B.S. It’s real.” Wednesday’s #1 wrestling show, “AEW Dynamite” exploded onto the wrestling scene when it premiered on TNT in 2019. Featuring fast-paced, high-impact competitions with real sports analytics, the critically acclaimed series has continued to deliver high-performing episodes each week, reaching more than 59 million people across TNT’s linear and digital platforms. The show also delivers the youngest wrestling audience on television. AEW’s success story resonated with Director X as his own company, Fela, celebrates inclusion and diversity. Fela was founded on the mandate to “tell cultural stories authentically while being the voice for the underrepresented.” Fela’s mantra “Own Your Culture, Tell Your Stories” is what AEW is all about. Last edited on Wed Nov 18th, 2020 09:29 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2020 02:26 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 945th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Konnan showed up tonight to smoke up with the Inner Circle in Vegas. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2020 02:32 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 946th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Jon Moxley just announced on Dynamite that he and Renee Young are having a baby. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2020 03:02 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 947th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2020 03:21 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 948th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: That Omega segment was really awkward. Kenny just doesn't seem to be comfortable with the "outside the ring" stuff does he? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2020 03:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 949th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: That Omega segment was really awkward. Kenny just doesn't seem to be comfortable with the "outside the ring" stuff does he? Other than the fact that he couldn’t get the pen to work, nothing stood out to me. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2020 07:33 am PM Quote Reply 950th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I like the way they did the Will Hobbs turn. He was always turning up late for the save the last few weeks, to the point that I thought he had missed his cue last week. He has never actually laid a finger on Team Taz. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2020 03:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 951st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I like the way they did the Will Hobbs turn. He was always turning up late for the save the last few weeks, to the point that I thought he had missed his cue last week. He has never actually laid a finger on Team Taz. He was so comically late last week that I thought the same thing, and then laughed when you posted about it. It turns out that it was just great subtle booking all along. The announcers never harped on it because they expect the viewer to have a brain, adding to the swerve. Another great job. I have to re-wire my brain after 20 years of nothing but WWE to catch these clues. These might be the first heel turn I really never saw coming. Last edited on Thu Nov 19th, 2020 03:20 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2020 10:13 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 952nd Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: Yeah but who the fuck is Will Hobbs? Why should I care he turned on Cody to join Team Taz? He's had at most a handful of matches, most on dark, and there was never any reason whatsoever why he was put into this angle/feud to begin with. This screams WWF booking- lets take someone and shove them into an angle just because ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2020 11:39 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 953rd Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: Yeah but who the fuck is Will Hobbs? Why should I care he turned on Cody to join Team Taz? He's had at most a handful of matches, most on dark, and there was never any reason whatsoever why he was put into this angle/feud to begin with. This screams WWF booking- lets take someone and shove them into an angle just because Except AEW has actual stables and things like that. They also brought back the Death Triangle last night. They are trying to make stars in AEW, unlike the WWE. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2020 11:42 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 954th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: Yeah but who the fuck is Will Hobbs? Why should I care he turned on Cody to join Team Taz? He's had at most a handful of matches, most on dark, and there was never any reason whatsoever why he was put into this angle/feud to begin with. This screams WWF booking- lets take someone and shove them into an angle just because I care more about Will Hobbs after 1 night and some jobber matches on Dark than I care about Randy Orton after 20 years and 180 World titles. So there’s that. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 26th, 2020 09:36 am PM Quote Reply 955th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: I thought "THE HANGOVER" parody segments were very entertaining and I'm mostly old school. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 26th, 2020 09:46 am PM Quote Reply 956th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Chris Jericho vs. Chris Daniels for the first time ever was cool, albeit a tag match. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 26th, 2020 06:29 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 957th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: Yeah but who the fuck is Will Hobbs? Why should I care he turned on Cody to join Team Taz? He's had at most a handful of matches, most on dark, and there was never any reason whatsoever why he was put into this angle/feud to begin with. This screams WWF booking- lets take someone and shove them into an angle just because I care more about Will Hobbs after 1 night and some jobber matches on Dark than I care about Randy Orton after 20 years and 180 World titles. So there’s that. Someone elsewhere made a good point that this meant so much because it was the first heel (or face) turn in Dynamite history, and the show has been on for more than a year now. They don’t overdo turns at all. The only other one that AEW ever really did was having MJF turn on Cody in the pre-Dynamite days, but that was a weird one because MJF was already a heel even though he was Cody’s friend. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 26th, 2020 07:47 pm PM Quote Reply 958th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: Yeah but who the fuck is Will Hobbs? Why should I care he turned on Cody to join Team Taz? He's had at most a handful of matches, most on dark, and there was never any reason whatsoever why he was put into this angle/feud to begin with. This screams WWF booking- lets take someone and shove them into an angle just because I care more about Will Hobbs after 1 night and some jobber matches on Dark than I care about Randy Orton after 20 years and 180 World titles. So there’s that. Someone elsewhere made a good point that this meant so much because it was the first heel (or face) turn in Dynamite history, and the show has been on for more than a year now. They don’t overdo turns at all. The only other one that AEW ever really did was having MJF turn on Cody in the pre-Dynamite days, but that was a weird one because MJF was already a heel even though he was Cody’s friend. SCU were heels when AEW started out. There was no real turn, but they quickly moved to the face side around the time Dynamite started. Hobbs is definitely the first clear turn on Dynamite. Tony Khan knows nothing about booking. It was great TV watching Big Show continually turn face and heel on a monthly basis, each one being more meaningful than the last. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Nov 26th, 2020 10:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 959th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: They’re apparently turning Matt Hardy heel after his arrogant promo last night, but that one is right out of WWE nonsensical playbook. Hopefully they go somewhere better with it because right now it’s out of left field. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 27th, 2020 12:45 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 960th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: They’re apparently turning Matt Hardy heel after his arrogant promo last night, but that one is right out of WWE nonsensical playbook. Hopefully they go somewhere better with it because right now it’s out of left field. Looks like Lance Archer is a Tweener now with his "save" of the Death Triangle last night. Reading Archer & Kingston on Twitter the past 2 weeks has been fun. I really think that the Cody/Taz's storyline could be fun, involving Taz's son. Last edited on Fri Nov 27th, 2020 12:48 am by freebirdsforever2019 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 27th, 2020 12:46 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 961st Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Nov 27th, 2020 09:24 am PM Quote Reply 962nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: They’re apparently turning Matt Hardy heel after his arrogant promo last night, but that one is right out of WWE nonsensical playbook. Hopefully they go somewhere better with it because right now it’s out of left field. They are still pushing the "persona" angle with Matt Hardy. Different personas are on different points of the heel-face scale. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Nov 29th, 2020 10:44 am PM Quote Reply 963rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Those not watching Dark, and I can't blame you as it creeps towards being a three hour show without ads, are missing a hilarious angle they are playing out. Whenever someone botches a high-risk manoeuvre by slipping on the ropes (so far Matt Sydal and Trent) we find out later that Michael Nakazawa oiled the ropes beforehand on purpose. Nakazawa has subsequently lost matches to both men. It's ridiculous, of course, but I appreciate the attention to detail. AEW is by no means perfect, but I feel like taking the time to watch all their shows is at least somewhat rewarded. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Nov 30th, 2020 10:25 am PM Quote Reply 964th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. The midget Tommy Dreamer. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Nov 30th, 2020 04:46 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 965th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. The midget Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer is another one who's over with everybody. Jimmy Hart was the same way. Both could appear in several promotions at the same time. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Nov 30th, 2020 07:17 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 966th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. The midget Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer is another one who's over with everybody. Jimmy Hart was the same way. Both could appear in several promotions at the same time. Since joining WWE after ECW folded, Tommy Dreamer really hasn't badmouthed anybody or anything. Yes, he has at times questioned his role, etc. But I think that when ECW folded (probably about five months before he stopped working for them unpaid), the time between him being in ECW and getting signed by WWE was long enough so that he realized that if he wanted to have a place in the industry, he had to be open to virtually anything. And had he never left WWE, he probably would have been fired or furloughed over the past couple of years and had really nothing set up for himself. But he built House of Hardcore, he's worked every indy that is within his travel distance, he's been in and out of TNA, I think he's made an appearance with ROH but could be wrong, and he's done all of this while at no point trying to put himself over at the expense of anybody. He is simply one of the few people in the industry that is honest and up front when it comes to how he handles his business. He has absolutely done a lot of working the marks, but that's his job. The business end of the sport he has been as clean and honest as anybody. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Nov 30th, 2020 07:33 pm PM Quote Reply 967th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="/users/152.html" TARGET="_blank">SuperstarA> wrote: <A HREF="/users/912.html" TARGET="_blank">freebirdsforever2019A> wrote: <A HREF="/users/484.html" TARGET="_blank">Heenan FanA> wrote: <A HREF="/users/912.html" TARGET="_blank">freebirdsforever2019A> wrote: <A HREF="/users/16.html" TARGET="_blank">srossiA> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. The midget Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer is another one who's over with everybody. Jimmy Hart was the same way. Both could appear in several promotions at the same time. Since joining WWE after ECW folded, Tommy Dreamer really hasn't badmouthed anybody or anything. Yes, he has at times questioned his role, etc. But I think that when ECW folded (probably about five months before he stopped working for them unpaid), the time between him being in ECW and getting signed by WWE was long enough so that he realized that if he wanted to have a place in the industry, he had to be open to virtually anything. And had he never left WWE, he probably would have been fired or furloughed over the past couple of years and had really nothing set up for himself. But he built House of Hardcore, he's worked every indy that is within his travel distance, he's been in and out of TNA, I think he's made an appearance with ROH but could be wrong, and he's done all of this while at no point trying to put himself over at the expense of anybody. He is simply one of the few people in the industry that is honest and up front when it comes to how he handles his business. He has absolutely done a lot of working the marks, but that's his job. The business end of the sport he has been as clean and honest as anybody. If we had an atomic World War 3 today, only 7 things would survive: 1. Samuel L. Jackson 2. Christopher Walken 3. Henry Kissinger 4. Cockroaches 5. McKenzie Phillips 6. Keith Richards 7. Tommy Dreamer Last edited on Mon Nov 30th, 2020 08:08 pm by Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Nov 30th, 2020 07:37 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 968th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. The midget Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer is another one who's over with everybody. Jimmy Hart was the same way. Both could appear in several promotions at the same time. Since joining WWE after ECW folded, Tommy Dreamer really hasn't badmouthed anybody or anything. Other than the whole the whole murder-suicide at Wrestlemania plan, he's a model citizen. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 1st, 2020 01:33 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 969th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. The midget Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer is another one who's over with everybody. Jimmy Hart was the same way. Both could appear in several promotions at the same time. Since joining WWE after ECW folded, Tommy Dreamer really hasn't badmouthed anybody or anything. Yes, he has at times questioned his role, etc. But I think that when ECW folded (probably about five months before he stopped working for them unpaid), the time between him being in ECW and getting signed by WWE was long enough so that he realized that if he wanted to have a place in the industry, he had to be open to virtually anything. And had he never left WWE, he probably would have been fired or furloughed over the past couple of years and had really nothing set up for himself. But he built House of Hardcore, he's worked every indy that is within his travel distance, he's been in and out of TNA, I think he's made an appearance with ROH but could be wrong, and he's done all of this while at no point trying to put himself over at the expense of anybody. He is simply one of the few people in the industry that is honest and up front when it comes to how he handles his business. He has absolutely done a lot of working the marks, but that's his job. The business end of the sport he has been as clean and honest as anybody. Tommy is a genuine good dude. Talked to him a few times and drank with him and Sandman once after a show in South Jersey. Just a kind soul. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 1st, 2020 01:33 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 970th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. The midget Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer is another one who's over with everybody. Jimmy Hart was the same way. Both could appear in several promotions at the same time. Since joining WWE after ECW folded, Tommy Dreamer really hasn't badmouthed anybody or anything. Other than the whole the whole murder-suicide at Wrestlemania plan, he's a model citizen.  ?? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 1st, 2020 02:04 am PM Quote Reply 971st Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. The midget Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer is another one who's over with everybody. Jimmy Hart was the same way. Both could appear in several promotions at the same time. Since joining WWE after ECW folded, Tommy Dreamer really hasn't badmouthed anybody or anything. Other than the whole the whole murder-suicide at Wrestlemania plan, he's a model citizen. ?? Legit. Tommy gave an interview saying he was planning on committing suicide on live ppv at Wrestlemania 17. Google it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 1st, 2020 02:27 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 972nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. The midget Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer is another one who's over with everybody. Jimmy Hart was the same way. Both could appear in several promotions at the same time. Since joining WWE after ECW folded, Tommy Dreamer really hasn't badmouthed anybody or anything. Other than the whole the whole murder-suicide at Wrestlemania plan, he's a model citizen. ?? Legit. Tommy gave an interview saying he was planning on committing suicide on live ppv at Wrestlemania 17. Google it. He claims he had a real plan to murder Paul Heyman and then kill himself live at WM and discusses it in more depth than anyone should. Even if he’s just full of shit, just saying it publicly should disqualify him from ever working from a real company again. But no one seems to care. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 1st, 2020 03:40 am PM Quote Reply 973rd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. The midget Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer is another one who's over with everybody. Jimmy Hart was the same way. Both could appear in several promotions at the same time. Since joining WWE after ECW folded, Tommy Dreamer really hasn't badmouthed anybody or anything. Other than the whole the whole murder-suicide at Wrestlemania plan, he's a model citizen. ?? Legit. Tommy gave an interview saying he was planning on committing suicide on live ppv at Wrestlemania 17. Google it. He claims he had a real plan to murder Paul Heyman and then kill himself live at WM and discusses it in more depth than anyone should. Even if he’s just full of shit, just saying it publicly should disqualify him from ever working from a real company again. But no one seems to care. I disagree with you on your opinion Tommy should be disqualified from ever working for a real company. First of all, he didn't do it. Second of all, everyone deserves a 2nd chance. Tommy has a heart of gold. Everybody fucks up sometimes. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Dec 1st, 2020 03:47 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 974th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#" href="/users/484.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu484')">Heenan Fana> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Inner Circle in Vegas turned into a sequel of “The Hangover”, complete with Hornswoggle in a diaper. People who hates the musical number song like this much better. Hornswoggle must be liked by people as he's been on 2 different promotions on National TV in the past 2 weeks. The midget Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer is another one who's over with everybody. Jimmy Hart was the same way. Both could appear in several promotions at the same time. Since joining WWE after ECW folded, Tommy Dreamer really hasn't badmouthed anybody or anything. Other than the whole the whole murder-suicide at Wrestlemania plan, he's a model citizen. ?? Legit. Tommy gave an interview saying he was planning on committing suicide on live ppv at Wrestlemania 17. Google it. He claims he had a real plan to murder Paul Heyman and then kill himself live at WM and discusses it in more depth than anyone should. Even if he’s just full of shit, just saying it publicly should disqualify him from ever working from a real company again. But no one seems to care. I could see Dreamer wanting to kill Heyman, considering all the money he screwed Dreamer ($100,000) out of. I found this on the intrawebs. Aside from Paul Heyman, no person worked harder to keep ECW in business than Tommy Dreamer. In fact, by the time it was all said and done, “the heart and soul” of ECW may have been doing even more than Heyman to try and keep ECW alive. Whenever Paul E. left Philadelphia to meet with investors or perform outside business, Dreamer would take up his executive duties, booking the show and putting together its television shows and Pay-Per-Views. Dreamer also remained a steady performer inside the ring, wrestling shockingly hardcore matches on a nightly basis and upholding his status as the “Innovator of Violence.” This allowed Tommy to remain one of the most popular wrestlers in the company, a status he held practically the entire time it was in business. To repay him for all this incredible work, Heyman offered Dreamer a huge contract, only to turn around and not pay any of it, as was his standard. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 03:11 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 975th Post BuddyPSHayes Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Anywhere I Damn Well Please Posts: 4320 Status: Offline Mana: STING~~~~~~ Schiavone's girl-like screams were tongue-in-cheek, I'm sure. ____________________ "The only area I can think of to avoid in Houston is Houston." - srossi Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 03:20 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 976th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/12.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu12')">BuddyPSHayesa> wrote: STING~~~~~~ Schiavone's girl-like screams were tongue-in-cheek, I'm sure. No doubt, that was straight off WHW. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 03:27 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 977th Post yellowdog Joined: Fri Mar 5th, 2010 Location: New Bern, North Carolina USA Posts: 3825 Status: Online Mana: Sting is 61 years old. Let's all suspend disbelief now ____________________ "It's a Dog Eat Dog World" Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 03:58 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 978th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Jon Moxley played a subtle tribute to Pat Patterson by saying, “There’s only one thing left to do on a night like tonight. Go out there and make them go absolutely banana.” I don’t know if there’s one other person who caught that. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 04:30 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 979th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Well Kenny Omega is finally AEW World champion after a heel turn and outside interference from Impact VP Don Callis. Callis says to tune in on Tuesday to Impact TV to hear from Omega. So AEW and Impact are officially doing a cross-over angle. I don’t know how Imoact swing that but this company is on their 18th life. Last edited on Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 04:31 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 06:11 am PM Quote Reply 980th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: I knew within 3 seconds of the video package it was Sting and even called it out loud, tripping out my second oldest daughter and youngest son. I had no idea Sting was coming in either. Nice to see Mox give a subtle shout out to Pat Patterson with the banana line. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 06:13 am PM Quote Reply 981st Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/285.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu285')">yellowdoga> wrote: Sting is 61 years old. Let's all suspend disbelief now Yeah, but he wears face paint, so he's a young 61. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 09:58 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 982nd Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: When a company signs a 61 year old a multi year full time contract for i would think a lot of money. It just show me how big a mark the owner is. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 10:54 am PM Quote Reply 983rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: When a company signs a 61 year old a multi year full time contract for i would think a lot of money. It just show me how big a mark the owner is. I would think he's only getting $2,500 plus flights and hotel per appearance. It just shows me what an astute businessman the owner is. Last edited on Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 10:57 am by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 02:54 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 984th Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: Great to see Sting. I popped for a minute, but then I realized it is 2020. Maybe they can make use of him well as a non in ring competitor, but I equate this to TNA bringing in a crippled Hulk Hogan 10 years ago just for the name value. ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 03:48 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 985th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: When a company signs a 61 year old a multi year full time contract for i would think a lot of money. It just show me how big a mark the owner is. I guess Vince McMahon is a mark too. Where's the eye roll emoji? This type of shit has been done forever, and given the buzz that last night's show created, I'd say it all worked. I haven't heard this much talk about AEW since Dynamite's first few weeks on the air. It's safe to say the two big surprises last night were both home runs. But once Sting became available last month, did anyone think he wouldn't be coming in? He doesn't have to wrestle more than once, if that. He just has to do exactly what he did last night, which is have a cool entrance. Last edited on Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 04:02 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 04:12 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 986th Post sportatorium roach Joined: Tue Oct 16th, 2007 Location: Posts: 1233 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote I guess Vince McMahon is a mark too. Where's the eye roll emoji? This type of shit has been done forever, and given the buzz that last night's show created, I'd say it all worked. I haven't heard this much talk about AEW since Dynamite's first few weeks on the air. It's safe to say the two big surprises last night were both home runs. But once Sting became available last month, did anyone think he wouldn't be coming in? He doesn't have to wrestle more than once, if that. He just has to do exactly what he did last night, which is have a cool entrance. Indeed, I rarely follow current wrestling, but saw it on my phone Sting AEW and had to check it out. Last edited on Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 04:14 pm by sportatorium roach Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 05:16 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 987th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: OK - I get it that Britt Baker's gimmick is that she's "Dr. Britt Baker DMD" based on her real life dental profession. But it HAS to be a rib that she's standing under the 'DynaTron' with a smirk on her face and the tron just reads OPEN WIDE. For the life of me, I would LOVE to see her open wide. I'm sure I can't be the only creepy pervert to notice this last night (actually this morning as I watch the show On Demand). And yeah, I'm watching while working because I forgot to watch last night and want to see Omega/Moxley but more importantly - like the sportatorium roach, I want to see Sting. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 07:07 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 988th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: For the life of me, I would LOVE to see her open wide. Honestly, she was attractive and all when AEW started but when she came back from her injury with a few extra lbs on her in all the right places, I don't know man, she's smoking to me now..she's must-see TV now lol.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 07:51 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 989th Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: Some news about Sting and what he'll be doing in AEW: First off, hes broken the record for Pro Wrestling Tees with the most shirts sold in 24 hours, breaking the record at only the 12 hour mark. Secondly, according to Dave Meltzer, he's been signed to a full time multi year contract with AEW. However, he will not be competing in any matches. He will however be showing on a full time basis and not just when it's relevant for him to do so. AEW plans to be careful with Sting as he wont be taking any bumps and if he did, it would be at the utmost precaution. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 08:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 990th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: Some news about Sting and what he'll be doing in AEW: First off, hes broken the record for Pro Wrestling Tees with the most shirts sold in 24 hours, breaking the record at only the 12 hour mark. Secondly, according to Dave Meltzer, he's been signed to a full time multi year contract with AEW. However, he will not be competing in any matches. He will however be showing on a full time basis and not just when it's relevant for him to do so. AEW plans to be careful with Sting as he wont be taking any bumps and if he did, it would be at the utmost precaution. Not surprising, but I expect him to have one final match so he can go out the way he wants and not practically on a stretcher. He only needs to throw some punches and lock on the scorpion deathlock and fans will be thrilled. They just need to pick the right spot and the right opponent. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 08:03 pm PM Quote Reply 991st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: Some news about Sting and what he'll be doing in AEW: First off, hes broken the record for Pro Wrestling Tees with the most shirts sold in 24 hours, breaking the record at only the 12 hour mark. Secondly, according to Dave Meltzer, he's been signed to a full time multi year contract with AEW. However, he will not be competing in any matches. He will however be showing on a full time basis and not just when it's relevant for him to do so. AEW plans to be careful with Sting as he wont be taking any bumps and if he did, it would be at the utmost precaution. Who wrote that? He's not just going to appear when it's relevant for him to do so? So he'll also appear when it's irrelevant? He won't be taking any bumps. But also maybe he will. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 08:05 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 992nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: Some news about Sting and what he'll be doing in AEW: First off, hes broken the record for Pro Wrestling Tees with the most shirts sold in 24 hours, breaking the record at only the 12 hour mark. Secondly, according to Dave Meltzer, he's been signed to a full time multi year contract with AEW. However, he will not be competing in any matches. He will however be showing on a full time basis and not just when it's relevant for him to do so. AEW plans to be careful with Sting as he wont be taking any bumps and if he did, it would be at the utmost precaution. Who wrote that? He's not just going to appear when it's relevant for him to do so? So he'll also appear when it's irrelevant? He won't be taking any bumps. But also maybe he will. Sounds exactly like something Meltzer would write. I took it to mean that Sting will appear weekly and not just as a special attraction, although no one really appears weekly because they only have 2 hours of TV to fill, so regularly is probably the better word. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 08:36 pm PM Quote Reply 993rd Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="/users/16.html" TARGET="_blank">srossiA> wrote: <A HREF="/users/124.html" TARGET="_blank">KrissA> wrote: <A HREF="/users/96.html" TARGET="_blank">bpickeringA> wrote: Some news about Sting and what he'll be doing in AEW: First off, hes broken the record for Pro Wrestling Tees with the most shirts sold in 24 hours, breaking the record at only the 12 hour mark. Secondly, according to Dave Meltzer, he's been signed to a full time multi year contract with AEW. However, he will not be competing in any matches. He will however be showing on a full time basis and not just when it's relevant for him to do so. AEW plans to be careful with Sting as he wont be taking any bumps and if he did, it would be at the utmost precaution. Who wrote that? He's not just going to appear when it's relevant for him to do so? So he'll also appear when it's irrelevant? He won't be taking any bumps. But also maybe he will. Sounds exactly like something Meltzer would write. That's exactly what I was going to post but srossi beat me to it. I'm not trying to bury Dave but he's an idiot when it comes to using proper syntax. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 08:45 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 994th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: If Sting can take the bump that he gives himself doing the Scorpion Death Drop, he could work a full time schedule. I mean, going back to TNA, he really hasn't "Worked" a match schedule in at least ten years. I mean, yes, he worked TNA until about 2013 but it was not regular matches, and in most, he did not bump much. Seth Rollins fucked him royally with that buckle bomb but I blame Sting almost as much as Rollins because he's a Hall of Famer and does NOT need to take a finisher from a guy that's known as a little bit reckless in the ring. He had the power to say no. The only thing that I can think of is that WWE was going to give him a short run. But with AEW? All he would have to do is grab a guy, throw into the corner, Splash, Drop, Scorpion, and that's all she wrote. Much like when Austin did only stunners for six months when Owen broke his neck, Sting could do this until the end of time - if he can take the bump that the Death Drop needs. If not? Well, pick some other high impact looking move that isn't really high impact. Sting cannot be a manager, he needs to somehow be Sting, and if his physical activity is limited to once or twice a year, it will still feel special. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 09:23 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 995th Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: The WWE Network has a great doc on Sting, and it focuses a lot on the Rollins/Sting match. Apparently Rollins did the move correctly, but when Sting went to the Dr. he found out he had the major neck/back problems, and was actually glad that he had to go, otherwise it might not have been known until it was too late. He has no blame for Rollins at all ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 09:36 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 996th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: The WWE Network has a great doc on Sting, and it focuses a lot on the Rollins/Sting match. Apparently Rollins did the move correctly, but when Sting went to the Dr. he found out he had the major neck/back problems, and was actually glad that he had to go, otherwise it might not have been known until it was too late. He has no blame for Rollins at all I never saw that, and have always blamed Rollins, guess I owe him a cyber apology. I'm glad that Sting has a good outlook on it. I still don't think a guy of his stature needed to be taking that move. But with the thousands of matches Sting had, I guess it's possible he was walking wounded and all it took was the move from Rollins to make him see the Doc. Either that or you can thank WWE - the one thing that they have done so well with pretty much since Eddie died is their medical/wellness program. Sure you can laugh about the fact that guys like Lesnar fail steroid tests but never within WWE. But that program may have saved Sting's life. MVP is adament that it saved his, because he had a previously undetected heart problem. And the last guy I remember having a major painkiller problem in the program was Nick Dinsmore, and he's been gone for years. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 10:10 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 997th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: Sting should job to Darby Allin or job to Cody. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 10:31 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 998th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: Sting should job to Darby Allin or job to Cody. Unless they treat both as heels, he shouldn't. If he's going to job, it should be to somebody like MJF or Sammy Guevara. If Darby is a 'tweener', then sure, why not. But I do think Sting should be treated with the utmost respect, but also like a Hall of Fame wrestler who has barely competed in the last seven years. I don't agree with Hogan, where he said about fifteen years ago that he was not going to ever job again. But I also don't agree that any retired legend should lose each and every time they wrestle. If your business is build on suspending disbelief, you can do that for a 61 year old guy once in awhile. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 10:34 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 999th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: If Sting can take the bump that he gives himself doing the Scorpion Death Drop, he could work a full time schedule. I mean, going back to TNA, he really hasn't "Worked" a match schedule in at least ten years. I mean, yes, he worked TNA until about 2013 but it was not regular matches, and in most, he did not bump much. The first half of his TNA run, Sting got himself into the best shape he had since he was 30, and he just looked amazing. He was ripped, but streamlined and not bulky. It was crazy for someone his age. He also had his working shoes on and was just killing it with everyone, giving to guys like Abyss like someone in his position didn't have to. When you look at how many guys used TNA like a vacation and wouldn't do anything (like Booker T.) it really makes you appreciate the runs that Sting and Kurt Angle had there even more, because they were there to work. Then Father Time did catch up to him and the second half of his TNA run is more like you describe. I think he literally gave it all he had and then hit a roadblock and just couldn't bump much anymore. And unfortunately, that's the Sting that WWE got. Not that it probably would've mattered, considering how they booked him. Last edited on Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 10:35 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 11:06 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1000th Post Erick Von Erich Joined: Thu Mar 26th, 2015 Location: Texas USA Posts: 960 Status: Offline Mana: Sting was probably the most over wrestler in North America in 1997...and I think he wrestled all of one match that year (Starrcade). Just by showing up and walking to the ring, he'd get a huge pop. Thanks to the face paint, he still looks okay. Sting just standing near a wrestling ring is enough to excite fans. Walk in, point baseball bat, leave. Always curious why WWE didn't use him like that in 2015. But hey, WWE thought a 56 year old Ric Flair should be an in-ring competitor and the Intercontinental Champion... |
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Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 11:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1001st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: Since we have received questions on this, Kenny Omega did not work the most recent slate of Impact tapings. He and Don Callis will be filming content that will be inserted into Impact on AXS this Tuesday. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 01:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1002nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: By the way, it probably is worth noting that Sting vs. Jericho has somehow never happened. Fortunately WCW never threw Jericho out there to be squashed for no reason even though they were in the same company for several years, so that is the rare “first time ever dream match” that you can legit promote. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 01:24 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1003rd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: If Sting can take the bump that he gives himself doing the Scorpion Death Drop, he could work a full time schedule. I mean, going back to TNA, he really hasn't "Worked" a match schedule in at least ten years. I mean, yes, he worked TNA until about 2013 but it was not regular matches, and in most, he did not bump much. The first half of his TNA run, Sting got himself into the best shape he had since he was 30, and he just looked amazing. He was ripped, but streamlined and not bulky. It was crazy for someone his age. He also had his working shoes on and was just killing it with everyone, giving to guys like Abyss like someone in his position didn't have to. When you look at how many guys used TNA like a vacation and wouldn't do anything (like Booker T.) it really makes you appreciate the runs that Sting and Kurt Angle had there even more, because they were there to work. Then Father Time did catch up to him and the second half of his TNA run is more like you describe. I think he literally gave it all he had and then hit a roadblock and just couldn't bump much anymore. And unfortunately, that's the Sting that WWE got. Not that it probably would've mattered, considering how they booked him. I agree with everything that you say - and you should have added Christian to the list with Sting and Angle because he worked his ass off too as he really WANTED to see TNA succeed. But what happened to Sting, the 'Father Time' part as you say, was that his knees completely stopped cooperating with him. It's extremely hard to keep the physical appearance that you mention (nevermind compete in a wrestling ring) when your knees are bad. You just can't push the way you should. So while his 'first run' in TNA was incredible, that time when he left and came back after somewhere between 6-9 months off near the turn of the decade, he just wasn't the same at that point. And that's one of the reasons why he was so pissed at Jeff Hardy for showing up all fucked up before their match and he legit was beating on him and wouldn't give him one thing in the three minutes they fought. He wasn't interested in getting hurt by anybody, nevermind a pilled up mess like Hardy was at the time. But if you also recall, Hogan was very vocal, with some guys like Styles and Roode being less vocal, that the TNA Ring was incredibly hard to bump in due to it being six sided and having almost zero give. So take it all together and you've got Sting at the tail end of his career, pushing 50, with bad knees, bumping in the hardest ring this side of Mexico. Yup, it doesn't equate to "good things happening" to the body. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 02:30 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1004th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: Have zero interest in seeing Sting wrestle. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 03:02 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1005th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: so Impact champion will become secondary champion in his own company.... Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 07:23 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1006th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: This week's Dynamite scored a big number with 913,000 viewers, up just over 200,000 from last week. This is the best rating Dynamite has gotten since they cracked 1 million unopposed in September when NXT didn't air that week. To find a number as good as this one when they did compete with NXT, you have to go all the way back to February. NXT drew 658,000 viewers, down about 50,000 from last week, so AEW bit into their number but also attracted fans that don't normally watch either show. Last edited on Fri Dec 4th, 2020 07:24 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 11:53 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1007th Post Infamous 必 勝 Joined: Mon Oct 25th, 2010 Location: Slums Of Shaolin Posts: 2829 Status: Offline Mana: For entertainment value that Sting segment was the best segment AEW has ever produced. Not the best match or best 'wrestling' - just great character & story telling within. If they don't cheese out cinematic matches I can see Sting doing something like that & making it work Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 01:37 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1008th Post stingmark Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Cop City, California USA Posts: 9440 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: If Sting can take the bump that he gives himself doing the Scorpion Death Drop, he could work a full time schedule. I mean, going back to TNA, he really hasn't "Worked" a match schedule in at least ten years. I mean, yes, he worked TNA until about 2013 but it was not regular matches, and in most, he did not bump much. Seth Rollins fucked him royally with that buckle bomb but I blame Sting almost as much as Rollins because he's a Hall of Famer and does NOT need to take a finisher from a guy that's known as a little bit reckless in the ring. He had the power to say no. The only thing that I can think of is that WWE was going to give him a short run. But with AEW? All he would have to do is grab a guy, throw into the corner, Splash, Drop, Scorpion, and that's all she wrote. Much like when Austin did only stunners for six months when Owen broke his neck, Sting could do this until the end of time - if he can take the bump that the Death Drop needs. If not? Well, pick some other high impact looking move that isn't really high impact. Sting cannot be a manager, he needs to somehow be Sting, and if his physical activity is limited to once or twice a year, it will still feel special. Supposedly, When there was initial talks of him signing w/WWE, a short title run was talked about. How he never got one in writing, was a mystery. Also, Whatever that was during that weak HHH vs Sting match, makes me think that HHH wanted to sign him only to embarrass him & get the win. Only way it makes sense to me. I know Sting wanted to do a Taker Vs Sting match @ some point, but I think that got shelved too, once he suffered the neck injury. Honestly surprised WWE let him walk, or that Vince didn't try to steal the Sting name. ____________________ "I went to the #6th ranked liberal Arts College in California, I'm smarter than anyone else"(Also found out to be a formerly racist institution-Jeff Forsyth) Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 04:44 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1009th Post Erick Von Erich Joined: Thu Mar 26th, 2015 Location: Texas USA Posts: 960 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/19.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu19')">stingmarka> wrote: I know Sting wanted to do a Taker Vs Sting match @ some point, but I think that got shelved too, once he suffered the neck injury. Honestly surprised WWE let him walk, or that Vince didn't try to steal the Sting name. Sting's the one "current" guy that I mark out for and like to fantasy book. Back in March, I remember thinking that WrestleMania 36 would be the perfect time to do Sting/Undertaker and go the cinematic route. But it was much too late to pull the trigger on anything. ____________________ www.dawrestlingsite.com Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 07:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1010th Post stingmark Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Cop City, California USA Posts: 9440 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/421.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu421')">Erick Von Ericha> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/19.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu19')">stingmarka> wrote: I know Sting wanted to do a Taker Vs Sting match @ some point, but I think that got shelved too, once he suffered the neck injury. Honestly surprised WWE let him walk, or that Vince didn't try to steal the Sting name. Sting's the one "current" guy that I mark out for and like to fantasy book. Back in March, I remember thinking that WrestleMania 36 would be the perfect time to do Sting/Undertaker and go the cinematic route. But it was much too late to pull the trigger on anything. True. I "get" that Sting was Vince's big get for the HOF induction & because he was the 1 guy who refused to sign with WWF/E over the years. I do think(after we've all seen how he was used after they signed him), that it was to mostly embarrass him and sort of punish him for not signing all those years. Just my take. I'm probably wrong about it, but his entire WWE run was less than impressive IMO. ____________________ "I went to the #6th ranked liberal Arts College in California, I'm smarter than anyone else"(Also found out to be a formerly racist institution-Jeff Forsyth) Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 09:41 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1011th Post Erick Von Erich Joined: Thu Mar 26th, 2015 Location: Texas USA Posts: 960 Status: Offline Mana: One of the reasons I go back into WWE when The Network launched was the tease of Sting coming in. They added a brief, modern, soundbyte from him talking about the Ultimate Warrior. From that point, the rumors and speculation went crazy. I was into the concept of having Ric Flair back Evolution and Sting back the Shield, when that feud was running and headlining PPV's. I was extremely (EXTREMELY) pissed when he jobbed to part-time wrestler Triple H at WrestleMania. I remember a common response/defense from some in the industry (including Jim Ross) was that if we had a problem with that decision, then we just "didn't understand how the business works". Very condescending and it stomped on my enthusiasm. When it was all said and done, I think Sting's WWE record was 1-2. With that "1" coming in a tag team match against Rollins and Big Show on RAW. ____________________ www.dawrestlingsite.com Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 5th, 2020 06:05 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1012th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Sting just needs to be the mysterious equalizer. Appearing out of no where to help when things look bleak. Use a ball bat and the scorpion leg lock. He will be good. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 5th, 2020 06:05 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1013th Post Quattro Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Posts: 4476 Status: Offline Mana: Saying all that and I have not watched AEW since the end of last year I think or beginning of this year. And if they are going to do a crossover, bring in Aldis. I still think that guy is money. Last edited on Sat Dec 5th, 2020 06:07 pm by Quattro Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 5th, 2020 07:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1014th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: Saying all that and I have not watched AEW since the end of last year I think or beginning of this year. And if they are going to do a crossover, bring in Aldis. I still think that guy is money. It’s only a matter of time before Aldis shows up. They need to pick the right spot. They also need Corgan to agree to have him drop the belt before regaining it because he’s not going to come in just to beat everyone. Last edited on Sat Dec 5th, 2020 07:01 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 5th, 2020 10:43 pm PM Quote Reply 1015th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: Saying all that and I have not watched AEW since the end of last year I think or beginning of this year. And if they are going to do a crossover, bring in Aldis. I still think that guy is money. It’s only a matter of time before Aldis shows up. They need to pick the right spot. They also need Corgan to agree to have him drop the belt before regaining it because he’s not going to come in just to beat everyone. Aldis should go to Impact, not AEW. Would fit right in with Moose claiming the TNA title. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Dec 6th, 2020 01:14 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1016th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/11.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu11')">Quattroa> wrote: Saying all that and I have not watched AEW since the end of last year I think or beginning of this year. And if they are going to do a crossover, bring in Aldis. I still think that guy is money. It’s only a matter of time before Aldis shows up. They need to pick the right spot. They also need Corgan to agree to have him drop the belt before regaining it because he’s not going to come in just to beat everyone. Aldis should go to Impact, not AEW. Would fit right in with Moose claiming the TNA title. Honestly he should go everywhere. Bring back the traveling NWA champion. It’s good programming during Covid anyway and Aldis doesn’t have any of his own bookings. The NWA already has relationships with AEW and ROH and God knows Impact can use any help they can get. It’s a no-brainer. Send him to MLW too. Why not? How does it not benefit everyone? ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 10th, 2020 03:35 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1017th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: wait don callis is Cyrus...shit receding hairlines for entertainers are bad Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 10th, 2020 03:44 am PM Quote Reply 1018th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <A HREF="/users/27.html" TARGET="_blank">krazykid18A> wrote: wait don callis is Cyrus...shit receding hairlines for entertainers are bad Yeah but Don Callis / Cyrus already had a noticeable receding hairline in 1999. He always had the big Joe Buck forehead. Attached Image (viewed 37 times): 340.jpg Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 10th, 2020 07:14 am PM Quote Reply 1019th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Don Callis has nothing on Jimmy Garvin. Never have the hair gods given so much and then taken so much away. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 10th, 2020 07:54 am PM Quote Reply 1020th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: That was quite a disappointing episode of Dynamite given all the hype. Last week's episode was so good, partly because of the surprises. One thing that really stuck out to me was that Tony was dressed like he was taking his dog for his walk on a cold morning. Looked really unprofessional, and something you would never ever see in WWE. They advertised Tony to be interviewing Sting, but Tony just left Sting and Arn to have a chat about nothing. And I can't stand Abadon. I've never liked grotesque characters, in wrestling or anything else, and it might just be me. Same reason I never liked Paul Bearer or (hushed tones) Mankind. That shit is just unpleasant to me and I don't wanna see it. Having said all that, the in-ring work was excellent as usual, and as much as I thought the show could have been better, when it finished I was again surprised at how fast two hours of wrestling can fly by. "Disappointing" is maybe a little strong, but given all the hype, and how good last week's show was, this fell below my expectations. I was expecting 6 stars and only got 4. Last edited on Thu Dec 10th, 2020 07:56 am by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 10th, 2020 11:25 am PM Quote Reply 1021st Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: Shaq is a overgrown asshole? Welcome to 1992, Brandi. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 10th, 2020 03:22 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1022nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: That was quite a disappointing episode of Dynamite given all the hype. Last week's episode was so good, partly because of the surprises. One thing that really stuck out to me was that Tony was dressed like he was taking his dog for his walk on a cold morning. Looked really unprofessional, and something you would never ever see in WWE. They advertised Tony to be interviewing Sting, but Tony just left Sting and Arn to have a chat about nothing. And I can't stand Abadon. I've never liked grotesque characters, in wrestling or anything else, and it might just be me. Same reason I never liked Paul Bearer or (hushed tones) Mankind. That shit is just unpleasant to me and I don't wanna see it. Having said all that, the in-ring work was excellent as usual, and as much as I thought the show could have been better, when it finished I was again surprised at how fast two hours of wrestling can fly by. "Disappointing" is maybe a little strong, but given all the hype, and how good last week's show was, this fell below my expectations. I was expecting 6 stars and only got 4. I was also disappointed. They can’t all be blow-away shows, but they wasted a ton of buzz by not having a stronger follow-up on either Omega or Sting. They mainly teased, but not even teases that get me excited about next week. The segments were flat and repetitive. And why is everyone randomly throwing shade at Cody now? Cody already has an issue with Shaq for no reason, he doesn’t need to be involved in something with Sting too. Last edited on Thu Dec 10th, 2020 03:37 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 10th, 2020 04:47 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1023rd Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: And why is everyone randomly throwing shade at Cody now? Cody already has an issue with Shaq for no reason, he doesn’t need to be involved in something with Sting too. HHH syndrome? ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 11th, 2020 03:59 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1024th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW's huge show last week and all the buzz they created helped propel them to a massive audience this week of 995,000. That's the closest Dynamite has come to 1 million when opposed by NXT since its 3rd show ever back in October 2019. This week's show wasn't as good though, so it might've been a wasted opportunity to keep those viewers. NXT on the other hand drew almost the same exact audience as last week, only 659,000 (up 1,000). It was a thrashing, and moreso in the key demos. Last edited on Fri Dec 11th, 2020 03:59 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 11th, 2020 05:19 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1025th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Meltzer is reporting that the tease that they did on Impact this past week of Omega vs. Swann title vs. title is absolutely in the plans for 2021. It will be interesting to see how they book that to keep everyone happy. When was the last time we saw a real title vs. title amongst guys from truly different companies (not WWE vs. WCW). I don't think WWE and ECW ever booked that. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 11th, 2020 05:54 pm PM Quote Reply 1026th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Meltzer is reporting that the tease that they did on Impact this past week of Omega vs. Swann title vs. title is absolutely in the plans for 2021. It will be interesting to see how they book that to keep everyone happy. When was the last time we saw a real title vs. title amongst guys from truly different companies (not WWE vs. WCW). I don't think WWE and ECW ever booked that. It has 60 minute draw written all over it. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 11th, 2020 06:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1027th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Meltzer is reporting that the tease that they did on Impact this past week of Omega vs. Swann title vs. title is absolutely in the plans for 2021. It will be interesting to see how they book that to keep everyone happy. When was the last time we saw a real title vs. title amongst guys from truly different companies (not WWE vs. WCW). I don't think WWE and ECW ever booked that. It has 60 minute draw written all over it. Eh, when was the last time we saw a 60-minute draw in America? Omega could do it, but Swann has likely never even gone 35 minutes in his career. And like I said before, I think it would actually devalue Omega if he can't beat Swann. I could see Omega being DQ'ed instead. But the days of the fans accepting non-clean finishes has long since past, especially an AEW audience. If you hype it, they want a real winner. Last edited on Fri Dec 11th, 2020 06:16 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 11th, 2020 09:26 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1028th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Meltzer is reporting that the tease that they did on Impact this past week of Omega vs. Swann title vs. title is absolutely in the plans for 2021. It will be interesting to see how they book that to keep everyone happy. When was the last time we saw a real title vs. title amongst guys from truly different companies (not WWE vs. WCW). I don't think WWE and ECW ever booked that. It has 60 minute draw written all over it. Eh, when was the last time we saw a 60-minute draw in America? Omega could do it, but Swann has likely never even gone 35 minutes in his career. And like I said before, I think it would actually devalue Omega if he can't beat Swann. I could see Omega being DQ'ed instead. But the days of the fans accepting non-clean finishes has long since past, especially an AEW audience. If you hype it, they want a real winner. 60 minute draw for the first match to give Swann credibility, and then Omega wins the rematch clean to end things. Everyone wins. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Dec 12th, 2020 07:10 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1029th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Impact tweeted tonight that Omega will be on their show again this coming week. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 14th, 2020 01:30 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1030th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Kenny Omega appeared from his bus on Impact’s Final Resolution PPV this weekend. I assume it was taped the same night as the last segment. This time Karl Anderson visited him and they reminisced about the NJPW Bullet Club days. Omega tried to motivate him and got under his skin a little, saying the Anderson who had a MOTY vs. Okada in the 2012 G1 would be able to beat Ethan Page in 1 minute. Anderson then went out there and beat Page, although it took a lot longer. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Dec 14th, 2020 05:47 am PM Quote Reply 1031st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Kenny Omega appeared from his bus on Impact’s Final Resolution PPV this weekend. I assume it was taped the same night as the last segment. This time Karl Anderson visited him and they reminisced about the NJPW Bullet Club days. Omega tried to motivate him and got under his skin a little, saying the Anderson who had a MOTY vs. Okada in the 2012 G1 would be able to beat Ethan Page in 1 minute. Anderson then went out there and beat Page, although it took a lot longer. This was an Impact Plus exclusive and not a PPV. The show was taped. Impact has everything in the can up to their Jan PPV, which will be live. Omega was in Mexico wrestling in a must-see match at TrupleMania for AAA on Ssturday. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 16th, 2020 03:12 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1032nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tonight on Impact, another “paid ad” promoting Dynamite. Tony Schiavone: “It’s great to be on cable access TV. Following this program, you will see the latest city council meeting...If you ask your smart TV to put in AXS, it says ‘Dude, why?” LOL. Heel Tony is awesome. Last edited on Wed Dec 16th, 2020 03:21 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 16th, 2020 04:36 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1033rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: On tonight’s Impact, they continued to build towards Omega vs. Swann, and first a 6-man match with Omega, Gallows, and Anderson vs. Swann and the Motor City Machine Guns. In the main event, after being egged on by Omega, Anderson cheated with a handful of tights to pin Sabin. After the match, Swann came out to argue with Anderson. They went “backstage” (since Omega isn’t actually there and this was filmed elsewhere) and Swann and the MCMG brawled with Gallows and Anderson. Omega then blindsided Swann and laid him out. Callis then shoved the AEW belt in Swann’s face and said this is the “real World championship”. Callis as EVP of Impact then booked the 6-man match at Hard To Kill, Impact’s January PPV. To say this is fucking huge for Impact would be an understatement. They can probably have Swann pin Omega here with help from MCMG, then have the singles match in AEW with Omega getting his win back. Just a guess. Last edited on Wed Dec 16th, 2020 04:37 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 17th, 2020 01:19 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1034th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Karl Anderson has teased on Twitter that he’ll be on Dynamite tonight. That seems like a safe bet. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 17th, 2020 02:45 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1035th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: For those that think Brandi Rhodes is a lowlight of AEW, good news. She announced she’s pregnant tonight, so she should be disappearing from TV for a long time. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 17th, 2020 03:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1036th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Snoop Dogg will appear on the first Dynamite of 2021, and Meltzer is reporting that there is MAJOR heat on him in WWE. WWE just unrolled a huge merch campaign that involved Snoop Dogg's license in conjunction with Undertaker and Sasha Banks merch, and they were big sellers during their Black Friday sale. There were talks to bring in Snoop in 2021 to continue to promote this partnership. The ink is barely dry on the deal and now Snoop is going to AEW. WWE has canceled other celebrity appearances, like Kevin Smith's, because they did AEW, but on this one they're in a quandary. You just know Snoop doesn't give a shit about any of this and probably thinks it's hilarious. But I wonder if Sasha won't start going through tables every week now. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 17th, 2020 04:31 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1037th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: For those that think Brandi Rhodes is a lowlight of AEW, good news. She announced she’s pregnant tonight, so she should be disappearing from TV for a long time. that whole video segment was just pure cringe...Cody and Brandi think a lot of themselves don't they? ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 17th, 2020 04:42 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1038th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: For those that think Brandi Rhodes is a lowlight of AEW, good news. She announced she’s pregnant tonight, so she should be disappearing from TV for a long time. that whole video segment was just pure cringe...Cody and Brandi think a lot of themselves don't they? No kidding. I do like the guy too, but he is his fathers son for sure. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 17th, 2020 04:45 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1039th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: For those that think Brandi Rhodes is a lowlight of AEW, good news. She announced she’s pregnant tonight, so she should be disappearing from TV for a long time. that whole video segment was just pure cringe...Cody and Brandi think a lot of themselves don't they? No kidding. I do like the guy too, but he is his fathers son for sure. The Dusty definitely comes out in him more and more every week. I think his booking has been fine for the most part, but he's getting involved in a bit too much lately between Shaq and Sting that he really doesn't need to be involved in, and I can see him turning into HHH if he's not careful. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 17th, 2020 04:54 pm PM Quote Reply 1040th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: For those that think Brandi Rhodes is a lowlight of AEW, good news. She announced she’s pregnant tonight, so she should be disappearing from TV for a long time. that whole video segment was just pure cringe...Cody and Brandi think a lot of themselves don't they? No kidding. I do like the guy too, but he is his fathers son for sure. The Dusty definitely comes out in him more and more every week. I think his booking has been fine for the most part, but he's getting involved in a bit too much lately between Shaq and Sting that he really doesn't need to be involved in, and I can see him turning into HHH if he's not careful. When did they add that big gate on the entrance just for Cody? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Dec 17th, 2020 04:57 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1041st Post kargol Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Brum, United Kingdom Posts: 5565 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: But I wonder if Sasha won't start going through tables every week now. Sasha v Lana in pudding bowl matches. You know it makes sense. ____________________ superfunkymean Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Dec 18th, 2020 01:08 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1042nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: The 12/16 edition of AEW Dynamite on TNT did 806,000 overnight viewers, way down from last week's 995,000. They did a 0.32 in the 18-49 demographic, way down from last week's 0.45. The 12/16 edition of NXT did 766,000 overnight viewers, up from last week's 659,000. They did a 0.19 rating in the 18-49 demographic, up from last week's 0.17. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 23rd, 2020 01:16 pm PM Quote Reply 1043rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: How do AEW manage to keep the spoilers out of the news? I don't explicitly go looking for them, but the Observer have the results for Friday's Smackdown as headline articles on their site, while AEW have been taping every second Dynamite in front of a few hundred fans, and nothing has been leaked apart from the "mole" story a few months ago. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Dec 23rd, 2020 02:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1044th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: How do AEW manage to keep the spoilers out of the news? I don't explicitly go looking for them, but the Observer have the results for Friday's Smackdown as headline articles on their site, while AEW have been taping every second Dynamite in front of a few hundred fans, and nothing has been leaked apart from the "mole" story a few months ago. I'm not sure if they ask fans to keep quiet or sign an NDA or something, which is more realistic with only a few diehard fans rather than thousands. I do think the fans that go take this seriously and genuinely care about the company and don't want to hurt it, something that would just be bizarre to say about a WWE fan, who generally go just to chant the opposite of what Vince wants them to chant. Last edited on Wed Dec 23rd, 2020 02:52 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2021 02:22 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1045th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Wednesday night's edition of AEW Dynamite featured a show-long tribute to the late Jon Huber (Brodie Lee). According to a report from the Pro Wrestling Torch, the show drew 977,000 viewers on the night, which was a large increase over what the show drew one week earlier (775,000). The number was also significantly higher than the viewership that WWE NXT drew over on the USA Network head to head (586,000). Due to the nature of the show, AEW was expected to win the viewership battle on the night in dramatic fashion. In the coveted 18-49 age group ratings demographic, AEW Dynamite drew a 0.40 rating, which was up from the 0.32 the broadcast last week did. NXT did a 0.12 rating in this demo. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 5th, 2021 06:09 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1046th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW with an amazing video package looking back at the Year In Review. I hope they put this on TV. AEW looks so big league here compared to the competition. <A HREF="https://fb.watch/2QlFwdJ8bB/" TARGET="_blank">https://fb.watch/2QlFwdJ8bB/A> ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jan 5th, 2021 08:38 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1047th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: How do AEW manage to keep the spoilers out of the news? I don't explicitly go looking for them, but the Observer have the results for Friday's Smackdown as headline articles on their site, while AEW have been taping every second Dynamite in front of a few hundred fans, and nothing has been leaked apart from the "mole" story a few months ago. You know full well that Dave gets the results, but just doesn't publish them. It's clearly obvious at this point he has a huge bias towards AEW and a man-crush on Tony Khan...With Tony also having one with Dave. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 7th, 2021 09:31 am PM Quote Reply 1048th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Another outstanding show last night. We basically now have AEW, Impact, New Japan, AAA and whatever is left of the NWA all working together, at least loosely. Literally years worth of stories and fresh matches. But hey, Goldberg is back... EDIT: When I wrote this, I had totally forgotten about the Shida-Abadon match. I really don't like the Abadon gimmick, but the main event was so good, that she was completely washed from my mind temporarily. Yes, the Snoop Dogg splash was also terrible, but the rest of the show was so, so good. Last edited on Thu Jan 7th, 2021 11:00 am by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 7th, 2021 02:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1049th Post Principal_Raditch Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 8144 Status: Offline Mana: I actually watched the full Omega vs Fenix main event because I was getting bored with the insurrection coverage. It was solid...plus a nice run in at the end I wasn't expecting. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 7th, 2021 03:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1050th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Another outstanding show last night. We basically now have AEW, Impact, New Japan, AAA and whatever is left of the NWA all working together, at least loosely. Literally years worth of stories and fresh matches. But hey, Goldberg is back... EDIT: When I wrote this, I had totally forgotten about the Shida-Abadon match. I really don't like the Abadon gimmick, but the main event was so good, that she was completely washed from my mind temporarily. Yes, the Snoop Dogg splash was also terrible, but the rest of the show was so, so good. Let's not get carried away that NJPW is in any way part of this. They've been pretty bitter about the way most of these guys left after their last Tokyo Dome show for 2 years now. It's just another Bullet Club call-back, no different from AJ Styles and the Good Brothers doing it in WWE. It's amazing how much mileage so many different companies have gotten out of this one group, and more amazing that NJPW has completely lost control of it and haven't benefited from any of it. The real Bullet Club currently in NJPW doesn't have any buzz around it anymore and almost no one could tell you who the members are right now. Last edited on Thu Jan 7th, 2021 03:44 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 7th, 2021 04:26 pm PM Quote Reply 1051st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Another outstanding show last night. We basically now have AEW, Impact, New Japan, AAA and whatever is left of the NWA all working together, at least loosely. Literally years worth of stories and fresh matches. But hey, Goldberg is back... EDIT: When I wrote this, I had totally forgotten about the Shida-Abadon match. I really don't like the Abadon gimmick, but the main event was so good, that she was completely washed from my mind temporarily. Yes, the Snoop Dogg splash was also terrible, but the rest of the show was so, so good. Let's not get carried away that NJPW is in any way part of this. They've been pretty bitter about the way most of these guys left after their last Tokyo Dome show for 2 years now. It's just another Bullet Club call-back, no different from AJ Styles and the Good Brothers doing it in WWE. It's amazing how much mileage so many different companies have gotten out of this one group, and more amazing that NJPW has completely lost control of it and haven't benefited from any of it. The real Bullet Club currently in NJPW doesn't have any buzz around it anymore and almost no one could tell you who the members are right now. That's why I added "loosely". Jon Moxley is still their US champion and made a video appearance at WrestleKingdom. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jan 13th, 2021 07:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1052nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW and TNT issued the following: TNT to Produce First Annual “AEW Dynamite Awards” Distributed Exclusively on Bleacher Report New Awards Show Celebrates AEW Stars and Top Moments on Jan. 27 via Livestream on the Bleacher Report App Voting Opens Today at <A HREF="http://www.AEWAwards.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.AEWAwards.comA> January 13, 2021 – TNT and Bleacher Report announced today the first annual “AEW Dynamite Awards,” a new awards show honoring the top AEW stars and viral moments of the past year. The show will livestream on Wednesday, January 27, at 7 p.m. ET/ 4 p.m. PT, exclusively on the Bleacher Report app. Starting today, fans can vote for their favorites in a variety of categories – including Best Moment on the Mic, Biggest Surprise, Breakout Star and Biggest Beatdown – by visiting <A HREF="http://www.AEWAwards.com." TARGET="_blank">http://www.AEWAwards.com.A> Shaquille O’Neal, Bert Kreischer, Chael Sonnen, Curtis Granderson, Camille Kostek, Kevin Hefferman, Steve Lemme, Ron Funches, Danielle Fishel Karp and Jensen Karp are among the virtual award presenters. The B/R app’s AEW stream is home to an active fan base reaching nearly 150,000 subscribers each month. During the “AEW Dynamite Awards,” fans will be able to post and comment in real-time as awards are announced. The event will also be supported and promoted across B/R social channels – the #1 most engaged sports media brand on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. The show will also be available on TNT’s YouTube channel and AEW’s social channels following the event. The first annual “AEW Dynamite Awards” nominees: Best Moment on the Mic: • MJF “We Deserve Better” Speech • Cody Rhodes accepts Dog Collar Match • Jon Moxley accepts Inner Circle Invitation • Brandi Rhodes confronts Jade Cargill • Orange Cassidy Debates Chris Jericho Biggest Surprise: • Matt Hardy’s Debut • Jake the Snake Roberts confronts Cody • Brodie Lee arrives as The Exalted One • Sting’s AEW Debut • Miro revealed as Best Man Breakout Star – Male: • Orange Cassidy • Darby Allin • Eddie Kingston • John Silver Breakout Star – Female: • Hikaru Shida • Anna Jay • Tay Conti • Big Swole • Penelope Ford Biggest Beatdown: • Inner Circle jumps Orange Cassidy • Dark Order attacks Nightmare Family • Nyla Rose puts Riho + Shida through tables • Brian Cage sneak attacks Jon Moxley • The Nightmare Family and Inner Circle brawl High Flyer Award: • Rey Fenix • Marq Quen • Nick Jackson • PAC Hardest Moment to Clean Up After: • Orange Cassidy drops orange juice on The Inner Circle • The Parking Lot Brawl • The Bunkhouse Match • Big Swole dumps garbage on Dr. Britt Baker Biggest WTF Moment • Cody Rhodes steel cage moonsault • Sammy Guevara hit by golf cart • Kenny Omega wins AEW World Championship and walks out of AEW • Bloody Dr. Britt Baker vs. Hikaru Shida • Young Bucks frog splash off the stadium railing LOL Award • Jericho + MJF: Le Dinner Debonair • Britt Baker waxes Tony Schiavone • Young Bucks kick MJF into a pool • Inner Circle Vegas Trip Best Twitter Follow • MJF • Orange Cassidy • Dr. Britt Baker • Nyla Rose Bleacher Report PPV Moment of the Year • Stadium Stampede • Moxley wins AEW Championship • Shida wins AEW Women’s Championship • Omega + Page defeat The Young Bucks • Darby Allin wins TNT Title from Cody • The Young Bucks win AEW Tag Team title ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 14th, 2021 03:11 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1053rd Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: Man i don't want want to be Jim Cornette but man it is not a good look that Jade Cargill is bigger than Cody in height and size Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 14th, 2021 03:16 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1054th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: and then they show marko stunt who looks like he is 5ft 1 and 90lbs Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 14th, 2021 03:23 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1055th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: and then they show marko stunt who looks like he is 5ft 1 and 90lbs Marko’s a jobber. People need to get over it. He’s not pushed in any way. Last edited on Thu Jan 14th, 2021 03:23 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 14th, 2021 03:42 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1056th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Kenny Omega is way too giving, a bit like Flair was in the ‘80s. He’s out there with a jobber in Danny Limelight and he’s trying to be the “Best Bout Machine” instead of just coming across like a star and crushing him. That whole 6-man match to promote Hard to Kill was too long and should’ve been a squash, not an attempt at having a great match. This is where AEW falters sometimes and they don’t quite get it. It’s a reunion of Omega, Gallows, and Anderson after years, all the fans want and need there is an ass kicking. Also, how do Rich Swann and the MCMG not show up there for a post-match brawl instead of the schmoz we got? Last edited on Thu Jan 14th, 2021 03:47 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 14th, 2021 03:54 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1057th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Man i don't want want to be Jim Cornette but man it is not a good look that Jade Cargill is bigger than Cody in height and size Jade’s a legit 6 feet in heels so I don’t care about that, but the segment was Jerry Springer trash and not exactly something that would be out of place in WWE. Not good. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 14th, 2021 04:01 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1058th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: so this brolic ass Brian Cage can't kick out of Darby allin's rollups huh.... AEW can plan a more realistic way to have darby beat Cage than that Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 14th, 2021 04:01 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1059th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tonight Jungle Boy debuted his new/old theme song “Tarzan Boy” by Baltimora on Dynamite. The ‘90s electronica classic was his theme song on the indies and Tony Khan “bought it” for him for his birthday. He’s used it on Dark once or twice and tonight finally used it on Dynamite. Last edited on Thu Jan 14th, 2021 04:02 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 14th, 2021 10:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1060th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Man i don't want want to be Jim Cornette but man it is not a good look that Jade Cargill is bigger than Cody in height and size Jade’s a legit 6 feet in heels so I don’t care about that, but the segment was Jerry Springer trash and not exactly something that would be out of place in WWE. Not good. <A HREF="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1349539501635416064?s=20" TARGET="_blank"> I would agree AEW is using her wrong.... Vicky should be doing the speaking for her and they should be using her as a powerhouse... the fact that she is taller and bigger than 90% of AEW male wrestlers should give her a boost in the woman's division which is poor right now.. Last edited on Thu Jan 14th, 2021 10:57 pm by krazykid18 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2021 04:37 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1061st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: One of the things I absolutely love about AEW: Jericho makes a throw-away joke about Sammy Guevara and Jake Hagar being Team Sammy Hagar and a couple of weeks later they have Sammy Hagar sending in a video message on Dynamite putting over his favorite new team. It’s just the sort of thing you can’t write, or if you could WWE certainly wouldn’t know how to write it. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2021 09:19 am PM Quote Reply 1062nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: One of the things I absolutely love about AEW: Jericho makes a throw-away joke about Sammy Guevara and Jake Hagar being Team Sammy Hagar and a couple of weeks later they have Sammy Hagar sending in a video message on Dynamite putting over his favorite new team. It’s just the sort of thing you can’t write, or if you could WWE certainly wouldn’t know how to write it. I'm pretty sure that was a Cameo. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2021 02:16 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1063rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: One of the things I absolutely love about AEW: Jericho makes a throw-away joke about Sammy Guevara and Jake Hagar being Team Sammy Hagar and a couple of weeks later they have Sammy Hagar sending in a video message on Dynamite putting over his favorite new team. It’s just the sort of thing you can’t write, or if you could WWE certainly wouldn’t know how to write it. I'm pretty sure that was a Cameo. I don't think so. I think Jericho just made a call. They've done plenty of stuff together over the years. Last edited on Thu Jan 21st, 2021 02:17 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2021 03:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1064th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: One of the things I absolutely love about AEW: Jericho makes a throw-away joke about Sammy Guevara and Jake Hagar being Team Sammy Hagar and a couple of weeks later they have Sammy Hagar sending in a video message on Dynamite putting over his favorite new team. It’s just the sort of thing you can’t write, or if you could WWE certainly wouldn’t know how to write it. The stuff that amazes or you find awesome seems to amaze me Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2021 03:34 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1065th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: One of the things I absolutely love about AEW: Jericho makes a throw-away joke about Sammy Guevara and Jake Hagar being Team Sammy Hagar and a couple of weeks later they have Sammy Hagar sending in a video message on Dynamite putting over his favorite new team. It’s just the sort of thing you can’t write, or if you could WWE certainly wouldn’t know how to write it. The stuff that amazes or you find awesome seems to amaze me I never said I was “amazed” by it, just commenting on something related to wrestling that I like, which one is wont to do on a fairly regular basis on a wrestling message board. I guarantee I never give much thought to what amazes you. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2021 05:40 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1066th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: One of the things I absolutely love about AEW: Jericho makes a throw-away joke about Sammy Guevara and Jake Hagar being Team Sammy Hagar and a couple of weeks later they have Sammy Hagar sending in a video message on Dynamite putting over his favorite new team. It’s just the sort of thing you can’t write, or if you could WWE certainly wouldn’t know how to write it. I'm pretty sure that was a Cameo. Apparently any video you do now is called a "Cameo" because I've seen several people say Sammy did a cameo for AEW but Sammy isn't on Cameo...he's worth 300+ Million, he's not slumming it for $100 video requests...srossi is right, Jericho prob asked him to do it.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2021 06:50 pm PM Quote Reply 1067th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: One of the things I absolutely love about AEW: Jericho makes a throw-away joke about Sammy Guevara and Jake Hagar being Team Sammy Hagar and a couple of weeks later they have Sammy Hagar sending in a video message on Dynamite putting over his favorite new team. It’s just the sort of thing you can’t write, or if you could WWE certainly wouldn’t know how to write it. I'm pretty sure that was a Cameo. Apparently any video you do now is called a "Cameo" because I've seen several people say Sammy did a cameo for AEW but Sammy isn't on Cameo...he's worth 300+ Million, he's not slumming it for $100 video requests...srossi is right, Jericho prob asked him to do it.. I guess it was just the way it was filmed. I forgot to check Sammy Hagar's net worth before I posted. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jan 27th, 2021 05:58 pm PM Quote Reply 1068th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: You can say what you want about AEW main eventers giving too much to enhancement talent, but AEW Dark has some very good matches. Rey Fenix is fucking incredible. He had an outstanding match with Baron Black on last night's show. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jan 27th, 2021 06:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1069th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: You can say what you want about AEW main eventers giving too much to enhancement talent, but AEW Dark has some very good matches. Rey Fenix is fucking incredible. He had an outstanding match with Baron Black on last night's show. AEW is a already in a position with too much talent and no way to highlight them all. Rey Fenix should be a main eventer. Instead he's in a tag team that has never even gotten a sustained push. And so many of these Dark guys should be signed, but what would you do with them other than put them right back on Dark? Last edited on Wed Jan 27th, 2021 06:17 pm by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jan 27th, 2021 06:34 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1070th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: You can say what you want about AEW main eventers giving too much to enhancement talent, but AEW Dark has some very good matches. Rey Fenix is fucking incredible. He had an outstanding match with Baron Black on last night's show. AEW is a already in a position with too much talent and no way to highlight them all. Rey Fenix should be a main eventer. Instead he's in a tag team that has never even gotten a sustained push. And so many of these Dark guys should be signed, but what would you do with them other than put them right back on Dark? Do you think that once people are allowed back into arenas that AEW will get a second show? I don't think they should ever do the bullshit brand split like Smackdown and RAW, but I do think there is a lot of talent that can support two shows. And if the second show can be on TBS, they could add one belt - the TV Title (or the TBS Title) and that Champion would only be on that show, and would defend the belt every week on TV. Once they lose the belt, they can roam between shows again. Same rule could apply to the TNT Champion. That would mean three singles belts (one per show, plus World Champ), and a tag title. They've already proven that they can support a tag division, but no need to have multiple tag titles. I know people may not think another singles belt is smart - but AEW isn't WWE, they know how to make it work without the secondary titles being meaningless. Hell, that TNT Belt was treated as almost an equal when Cody had it all summer and Mox was the World Champ. Now that Kenny Omega is playing the "traveling champ" role (which hopefully will continue) it would make a lot of sense to add a belt to the new show if you ask me. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jan 27th, 2021 06:53 pm PM Quote Reply 1071st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: One thing I *think* they understand in AEW is that you don't have to be on TV every week. WWE screws itself because the same people loads of TV time every single week. They can't even give a guy two weeks off to sell an injury. AEW rotate their roster, and it makes everything a little more fresh. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 28th, 2021 03:30 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1072nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Dax Harwood and Jungle Boy just had one of the great free TV matches I’ve seen in about a year and a half or more. And to think that they’re both one half of a tag team and AEW gave them that time instead of having it be a throw-away. And then to see Tully Blanchard get involved after the match and assist on a slingshot suplex and spike piledriver was the icing on the cake. Last edited on Thu Jan 28th, 2021 03:32 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 28th, 2021 03:47 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1073rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: It’s probably the vodka again, but the Good Brothers bringing back “Beat up John Cena” but changing it to “Beat up Jon Moxley” made me laugh. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 28th, 2021 04:01 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1074th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: And a very fun main event as the Young Bucks and Good Brothers reunite for the first time since their Bullet Club days to beat the Dark Order. Jon Silver again looked like a star before doing the job. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 28th, 2021 09:02 am PM Quote Reply 1075th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Dax Harwood and Jungle Boy just had one of the great free TV matches I’ve seen in about a year and a half or more. And to think that they’re both one half of a tag team and AEW gave them that time instead of having it be a throw-away. And then to see Tully Blanchard get involved after the match and assist on a slingshot suplex and spike piledriver was the icing on the cake. They are doing it all wrong. Tag teams have to split before they are allowed to compete as singles. Does Tony Khan know nothing about booking a tag division? I haven't even seen one tag team lose a handicap match in AEW. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jan 28th, 2021 12:23 pm PM Quote Reply 1076th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: You can add MLW to the loosely affiliated non-WWE wrestling universe. Kenny Omega is in an on-going Impact storyline and is also the AAA Mega Champion. The Lucha Brothers are the AAA World Tag Team Champions. Kenny Omega, the Lucha Brothers and Michael Nakazawa all appeared at AAA's TripleMania in December where Omega defended his AAA title against Laredo Kid, who defended the AAA Cruiserweight Title on MLW Fusion this week. Also appearing on MLW Fusion was TJP, the current Impact X-Division champion, who is also appearing regularly on New Japan Strong TV. Jon Moxley is the current IWGP United States Champion and appeared via video at Wrestle Kingdom. Impact Tag Team Champions The Good Brothers have appeared on the last two episodes of Dynamite, and their number one contenders are AEW's Private Party. The NWA women's champion is AEW wrestler Serena Deeb and NWA contracted Thunder Rosa is currently featured on Dynamite. Deeb defeated Rosa to win the title on UPW Prime Time. Last edited on Thu Jan 28th, 2021 12:34 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 29th, 2021 02:36 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1077th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Shaq cut a promo on Cody on "Inside the NBA" and officially challenged him and Red Velvet to a mixed tag match. So AEW is getting what they want out of this, and TNT is definitely helping them cross-promote in a big way. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jan 29th, 2021 11:16 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1078th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Shaq cut a promo on Cody on "Inside the NBA" and officially challenged him and Red Velvet to a mixed tag match. So AEW is getting what they want out of this, and TNT is definitely helping them cross-promote in a big way. Cupcake Cody lmao man Big Show has to be pissed ... the American nightmare gets a match in COVID era while Big Show and Shaq couldn't get the wrestlemania match they had planned a few yrs back... Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jan 30th, 2021 10:26 am PM Quote Reply 1079th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: You can add MLW to the loosely affiliated non-WWE wrestling universe. Kenny Omega is in an on-going Impact storyline and is also the AAA Mega Champion. The Lucha Brothers are the AAA World Tag Team Champions. Kenny Omega, the Lucha Brothers and Michael Nakazawa all appeared at AAA's TripleMania in December where Omega defended his AAA title against Laredo Kid, who defended the AAA Cruiserweight Title on MLW Fusion this week. Also appearing on MLW Fusion was TJP, the current Impact X-Division champion, who is also appearing regularly on New Japan Strong TV. Jon Moxley is the current IWGP United States Champion and appeared via video at Wrestle Kingdom. Impact Tag Team Champions The Good Brothers have appeared on the last two episodes of Dynamite, and their number one contenders are AEW's Private Party. The NWA women's champion is AEW wrestler Serena Deeb and NWA contracted Thunder Rosa is currently featured on Dynamite. Deeb defeated Rosa to win the title on UPW Prime Time. Mox appeared on New Japan Strong last night, apparently setting up a title match with Kushida. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jan 30th, 2021 12:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1080th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: You can add MLW to the loosely affiliated non-WWE wrestling universe. Kenny Omega is in an on-going Impact storyline and is also the AAA Mega Champion. The Lucha Brothers are the AAA World Tag Team Champions. Kenny Omega, the Lucha Brothers and Michael Nakazawa all appeared at AAA's TripleMania in December where Omega defended his AAA title against Laredo Kid, who defended the AAA Cruiserweight Title on MLW Fusion this week. Also appearing on MLW Fusion was TJP, the current Impact X-Division champion, who is also appearing regularly on New Japan Strong TV. Jon Moxley is the current IWGP United States Champion and appeared via video at Wrestle Kingdom. Impact Tag Team Champions The Good Brothers have appeared on the last two episodes of Dynamite, and their number one contenders are AEW's Private Party. The NWA women's champion is AEW wrestler Serena Deeb and NWA contracted Thunder Rosa is currently featured on Dynamite. Deeb defeated Rosa to win the title on UPW Prime Time. Mox appeared on New Japan Strong last night, apparently setting up a title match with Kushida. Do you mean Ibushi?....Kushida is signed and wrestling for NXT right now. Ibushi is the IWGP champion at the moment. Is there an English version of "NJPW Strong"?I know nothing about that show. Is it only available on "NJPW World" for viewers from North America? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jan 30th, 2021 01:17 pm PM Quote Reply 1081st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: You can add MLW to the loosely affiliated non-WWE wrestling universe. Kenny Omega is in an on-going Impact storyline and is also the AAA Mega Champion. The Lucha Brothers are the AAA World Tag Team Champions. Kenny Omega, the Lucha Brothers and Michael Nakazawa all appeared at AAA's TripleMania in December where Omega defended his AAA title against Laredo Kid, who defended the AAA Cruiserweight Title on MLW Fusion this week. Also appearing on MLW Fusion was TJP, the current Impact X-Division champion, who is also appearing regularly on New Japan Strong TV. Jon Moxley is the current IWGP United States Champion and appeared via video at Wrestle Kingdom. Impact Tag Team Champions The Good Brothers have appeared on the last two episodes of Dynamite, and their number one contenders are AEW's Private Party. The NWA women's champion is AEW wrestler Serena Deeb and NWA contracted Thunder Rosa is currently featured on Dynamite. Deeb defeated Rosa to win the title on UPW Prime Time. Mox appeared on New Japan Strong last night, apparently setting up a title match with Kushida. Do you mean Ibushi?....Kushida is signed and wrestling for NXT right now. Ibushi is the IWGP champion at the moment. Is there an English version of "NJPW Strong"?I know nothing about that show. Is it only available on "NJPW World" for viewers from North America? I meant KENTA, sorry. Strong is New Japan's US based show filmed in LA. It's shown on FITE-TV and New Japan World. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jan 31st, 2021 06:12 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1082nd Post Ed Lock Joined: Fri Jan 4th, 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 232 Status: Offline Mana: Our mate Kriss meant Kenta - not Kushida nor Ibushi. Jon Moxley is NJPW's United States Champion. Kenta holds the briefcase (Money In The Bank equivalent) signifying that he is the number 1 challenger for Mox's IWGP US Title. Cheers! Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jan 31st, 2021 06:16 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1083rd Post Ed Lock Joined: Fri Jan 4th, 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 232 Status: Offline Mana: Sorry Kriss! When I refreshed this topic, your latest post did not come up.  I understand that you know who's who and what's what in the world of pro wrestling - past and present. Cheers mate! Ed Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Feb 6th, 2021 02:05 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1084th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: The Acclaimed rap about all the AEW tag teams. <A HREF="https://fb.watch/3tFbbPEUR2/" TARGET="_blank">https://fb.watch/3tFbbPEUR2/A> Last edited on Sat Feb 6th, 2021 02:05 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Feb 10th, 2021 03:52 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1085th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tons of AEW stars appeared on Impact remotely tonight as part of Tommy Dreamer’s 50th birthday celebration and to hype his Impact title match on Saturday on his birthday. Included were Tazz, Matt Hardy, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Eddie Kingston, Young Bucks, and Santana & Ortiz. Chris Jericho and MJF appeared together and stole the show. MJF called Dreamer a “fat disgusting worthless piece of shit” and Jericho said “If you win the title at 50 it’ll be just like Hogan in 2007, 2008...you know the date because you’re a much bigger mark than I am.” Jericho did end a bit more sincerely thanking Dreamer for bringing him into ECW and starting his career. Also Tony Khan appeared again in his usual “paid advertisement” and credited Impact with making him decide to open “the forbidden door” with NJPW and invite KENTA in. He made it sound like there were going to be a lot of cross-overs with NJPW and Impact in the future. Last edited on Wed Feb 10th, 2021 03:54 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Feb 10th, 2021 09:59 am PM Quote Reply 1086th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tons of AEW stars appeared on Impact remotely tonight as part of Tommy Dreamer’s 50th birthday celebration and to hype his Impact title match on Saturday on his birthday. Included were Tazz, Matt Hardy, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Eddie Kingston, Young Bucks, and Santana & Ortiz. Chris Jericho and MJF appeared together and stole the show. MJF called Dreamer a “fat disgusting worthless piece of shit” and Jericho said “If you win the title at 50 it’ll be just like Hogan in 2007, 2008...you know the date because you’re a much bigger mark than I am.” Jericho did end a bit more sincerely thanking Dreamer for bringing him into ECW and starting his career. Also Tony Khan appeared again in his usual “paid advertisement” and credited Impact with making him decide to open “the forbidden door” with NJPW and invite KENTA in. He made it sound like there were going to be a lot of cross-overs with NJPW and Impact in the future. They also mentioned on commentary that Black Taurus was from AAA. Last edited on Wed Feb 10th, 2021 09:59 am by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Feb 10th, 2021 02:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1087th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tons of AEW stars appeared on Impact remotely tonight as part of Tommy Dreamer’s 50th birthday celebration and to hype his Impact title match on Saturday on his birthday. Included were Tazz, Matt Hardy, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Eddie Kingston, Young Bucks, and Santana & Ortiz. Chris Jericho and MJF appeared together and stole the show. MJF called Dreamer a “fat disgusting worthless piece of shit” and Jericho said “If you win the title at 50 it’ll be just like Hogan in 2007, 2008...you know the date because you’re a much bigger mark than I am.” Jericho did end a bit more sincerely thanking Dreamer for bringing him into ECW and starting his career. Also Tony Khan appeared again in his usual “paid advertisement” and credited Impact with making him decide to open “the forbidden door” with NJPW and invite KENTA in. He made it sound like there were going to be a lot of cross-overs with NJPW and Impact in the future. They also mentioned on commentary that Black Taurus was from AAA. Impact has worked with AAA and even specifically Taurus many times before. Of course AEW works with AAA too so they could all do something eventually without a problem. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Feb 10th, 2021 09:35 pm PM Quote Reply 1088th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: From the Observer site: AEW and New Japan's Danny Limelight revealed on Twitter Wednesday that he has COVID-19. He didn't give any details, but said he was "on the road to getting better now." He later tweeted, "If you’re lying about your covid tests so you don’t lose a booking/opportunity and you’re risking everyone else’s health you’re the worst kind of person." The 29-year-old's next appearance is on this Friday's New Japan Strong as he will team with Chris Dickinson against TJP and Ren Narita in a match that was already taped. He has been a regular on AEW Dark, Strong, and Championship Wrestling of Hollywood where he's one half of their tag team champions. He was last seen on the February 2nd edition of Dark, teaming with RYZIN in a losing effort to The Acclaimed in a match that was taped last week. Tuesday's episode of Dark was the first he hasn't been on since he debuted in October. Limelight debuted on Strong last August and recently picked up singles wins on AEW Dark over Fuego del Sol and Sean Maluta, respectively. I assume that New Japan and AEW independently test everyone, so that leaves CWFH leaving it to the honor system. He last worked for them on 1/18. He worked the next AEW two days later, and then missed the most recent AEW tapings. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 11th, 2021 03:31 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1089th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Sammy Guevara was wearing a Woman (Nancy Benoit) T-shirt tonight. That was interesting. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 11th, 2021 08:33 am PM Quote Reply 1090th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: That main event was great. Nice to see a plunder match worked at full speed, rather than in a "methodical" style (thanks HHH). Great ending as well. Even though he was pinned, I now want to see Lance Archer get a title shot. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 11th, 2021 02:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1091st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: During the Dynamite post-show "press conference", Don Callis, Kenny Omega, and the Good Brothers were asked about negative comments Jay White recently made about them. They ripped White and the Guerrillas of Destiny, calling them "replacement players" after the "A-Team" left. A 6-man tag match was clearly teased for some point in the future of current vs. former Bullet Club members. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2021 06:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1092nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: I won’t start a new thread on this, but since we’ve been talking so much about inter-promotional matches, last night MLW Middleweight champion Lio Rush beat AAA Cruiserweight champion Laredo Kid in a title vs. title match. It’ll be interesting to see if this can lead to Rush to doing anything with AEW since they recognize AAA titles. He’s also a slight “name” from his WWE days, so not the worst guy to bring in for a special appearance. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2021 07:04 pm PM Quote Reply 1093rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: One thing that has been noted is that while the "forbidden door" may have been opened, AEW have never mentioned how you can watch Impact or NJPW Strong. While Dynamite is promoed on Impact, the Impact streaming service was never mentioned by AEW and that was where Private Party wrestled last night. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2021 11:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1094th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: Sammy Guevara was slated to work this past week's Impact Wrestling TV tapings but was pulled from the tapings, SlamWrestling.net reported. PWInsider.com has confirmed with Impact sources that the story is accurate. The original plan was Guevara to work a short storyline at the tapings that began this past Tuesday through Thursday playing off Guevara quitting the Inner Circle. Multiple sources indicate that AEW and Impact worked out the plans but that Guevara did not fly to Nashville the day before the tapings scheduled and rescheduled himself to arrive in Nashville just a few hours before the tapings would begin. Impact sources also indicated that although everyone had agreed to the planned ideas, Guevara began texting Impact officials about alternative ideas and "not wanting to do what was agreed to." At that point, Impact officials canceled Guevara off the tapings. Slam's story states that Guevara has heat with AEW officials over the matter and that Chris Jericho informed him to fly back home after Guevara landed in Nashville on Tuesday's afternoon. We are told that the majority of what had been planned for Guevara saw Decay's Black Taurus utilized in that role instead. Impact sources reiterated there was no issue with AEW at all and the relations between the two sides are "golden." ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2021 01:55 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1095th Post cheapseats Joined: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 Location: Eastern Panhandle , West Virginia USA Posts: 1249 Status: Offline Mana: With as bloated as every company’s roster seems to be, now is not the time for a guy like Guevara to start pulling these kind of stunts. He needs to realize that he can be replaced rather easily. ____________________ Never said that I could 100 % substantiate it. And convincing you 100 % is not a concern of mine. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2021 01:58 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1096th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/292.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu292')">cheapseatsa> wrote: With as bloated as every company’s roster seems to be, now is not the time for a guy like Guevara to start pulling these kind of stunts. He needs to realize that he can be replaced rather easily. That’s strike 2. His immaturity is going to be the end of him. Last edited on Mon Feb 15th, 2021 01:59 am by srossi ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2021 03:30 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1097th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: This week’s “paid advertisement” on Impact had Tony Khan on the Jaguars football field with several AEW stars. They did the usual hype tomorrow’s Dynamite/bash Impact schtick. This time they had the wrestlers doing it though and not just Tony. Brian Cage made his return to Impact and buried their title, saying the last time it was relevant was when he held it. Britt Baker and Ricky Starks made their Impact debuts, and Matt Hardy and Private Party were there again to talk about their feud with Adam Page. It was a bit of an old school interview segment with a group of heels together talking about their upcoming matches, the way the Four Horsemen first formed just because a group of heels did a group promo together. I liked it, but at this point the Impact bashing is a bit of overkill considering Impact never insults AEW back, and last night there was no live AEW involvement or mention outside of the paid ad. So they’re just getting clowned on their own show repeatedly but I don’t feel like there’s ever a payback coming. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 25th, 2021 12:17 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1098th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tony Khan has conformed that the Dark: Elevation show on YouTube is separate from the long-rumored 2nd show that TNT will air later in the year. So AEW could be looking at as many as 7 hours of new content each week by the end of the year. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 25th, 2021 04:41 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1099th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: This was a really weak episode of Dynamite. Several jobber matches and nothing all that compelling. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Feb 25th, 2021 07:55 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1100th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: This week’s “paid advertisement” on Impact had Tony Khan on the Jaguars football field with several AEW stars. They did the usual hype tomorrow’s Dynamite/bash Impact schtick. This time they had the wrestlers doing it though and not just Tony. Brian Cage made his return to Impact and buried their title, saying the last time it was relevant was when he held it. Britt Baker and Ricky Starks made their Impact debuts, and Matt Hardy and Private Party were there again to talk about their feud with Adam Page. It was a bit of an old school interview segment with a group of heels together talking about their upcoming matches, the way the Four Horsemen first formed just because a group of heels did a group promo together. I liked it, but at this point the Impact bashing is a bit of overkill considering Impact never insults AEW back, and last night there was no live AEW involvement or mention outside of the paid ad. So they’re just getting clowned on their own show repeatedly but I don’t feel like there’s ever a payback coming. Tommy Dreamer has apparently taken offense at this, tweeting: "Promo lesson 101 build the person you are talking about UP if you win or lose you have beaten or lost to someone special When more than half your staff worked @impactwrestling don't shit on the place that helped them because ur basically shitting on yourself #fact #IMPACTonAXSTV" ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 26th, 2021 06:13 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1101st Post cheapseats Joined: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 Location: Eastern Panhandle , West Virginia USA Posts: 1249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: This week’s “paid advertisement” on Impact had Tony Khan on the Jaguars football field with several AEW stars. They did the usual hype tomorrow’s Dynamite/bash Impact schtick. This time they had the wrestlers doing it though and not just Tony. Brian Cage made his return to Impact and buried their title, saying the last time it was relevant was when he held it. Britt Baker and Ricky Starks made their Impact debuts, and Matt Hardy and Private Party were there again to talk about their feud with Adam Page. It was a bit of an old school interview segment with a group of heels together talking about their upcoming matches, the way the Four Horsemen first formed just because a group of heels did a group promo together. I liked it, but at this point the Impact bashing is a bit of overkill considering Impact never insults AEW back, and last night there was no live AEW involvement or mention outside of the paid ad. So they’re just getting clowned on their own show repeatedly but I don’t feel like there’s ever a payback coming. Tommy Dreamer has apparently taken offense at this, tweeting: "Promo lesson 101 build the person you are talking about UP if you win or lose you have beaten or lost to someone special When more than half your staff worked @impactwrestling don't shit on the place that helped them because ur basically shitting on yourself #fact #IMPACTonAXSTV" Dreamer isn't wrong. What he is saying is perfectly logical. ____________________ Never said that I could 100 % substantiate it. And convincing you 100 % is not a concern of mine. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Feb 26th, 2021 06:30 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1102nd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Anybody think Khan has some sort of monetary stake in this now? Because unless Impact wins the feud - and wins it big - they are being made to look totally minor league right now. It's almost as if Khan is buying them out and shitting on them the way Vince did with WCW. But if this is a legit feud and Impact doesn't score big with it, they are being just kicked further down the rung. The thing is, they can't even say that the Good Brothers are winning the feud for them, because they are doing it with Omega and Callis. Where this can get really good is if Omega sides with them and then takes over Impact on his own...thus causing Khan to have to "fight to get him back to AEW". Otherwise, Impact is just getting murdered here, slowly yet decisively. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Mar 3rd, 2021 04:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1103rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tonight on Impact Tony Khan cut a promo saying they may have their differences but AEW, Impact, and NJPW are all on the same side against “them”, and “you know who they are”. He then hyped Shaq and Paul Wight tomorrow on Dynamite and the Revolution PPV this Sunday. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:13 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1104th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: This shaq match aint bad.... Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:16 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1105th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: This shaq match aint bad.... Yeah, Shaq knows what he’s doing.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:20 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1106th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: This shaq match aint bad.... Yeah, Shaq knows what he’s doing.. We spoke too soon...he gave up that he was going thru the table too early ... But damn aew should have debut'd jade better...let vicky be her manager...physically she has a look and presence ...but they shouldn't have her speak til she gets better Last edited on Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:20 am by krazykid18 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:23 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1107th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Holy shit did they get a lot out of Shaq. He did more than I expected, a lot more. AEW just fucked up and cut to the ambulance too soon...Shaq was moving his legs. Then they cut back 10 seconds later and he’s gone. This is interesting. Wonder if they have him come out later and go after Paul Wight. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:26 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1108th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: This shaq match aint bad.... Yeah, Shaq knows what he’s doing.. We spoke too soon...he gave up that he was going thru the table too early ... But damn aew should have debut'd jade better...let vicky be her manager...physically she has a look and presence ...but they shouldn't have her speak til she gets better I hated Jade Cargill when she came out the first time. Then she broke Brandi’s arm (which was Brandi’s way of getting out of it because she was already pregnant). But watching her in the ring tonight? She has a better look than anybody in WWE and if you put her in against anybody from Shayna to Charlotte to Nia Jax, she would look like a legit threat. They need to build their women’s division around her, and Vicki as her mouthpiece would be brilliant. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:28 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1109th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: I really wish Shaq had wrestled a bit 10-15 years ago when he was AJ ways teasing it. For 48 and 7 feet that was pretty damn impressive. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:38 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1110th Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: So, they killed the power bomb with Cody instantly recovering and hitting Shaq with that fist. That bodyslam looked like garbage, too. Table spot looked great, though. Last edited on Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:54 am by martini ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:46 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1111th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: Nice match from Shaq, considering he’s 48 and this was his first match. And he’s a big star so it came across well as a big deal. The powerbomb was impressive with his size and the table spot was unexpected with him going through it as well. Last edited on Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:47 am by cookie32723 ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:51 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1112th Post One Fan Gang Joined: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 Location: Posts: 16317 Status: Offline Mana: The James J. Dillon shoe spot tonight warms my heart. Tully's ring gear reminds me of J.J.'s old warmup jacket. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:52 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1113th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: Damn this show is fun tonight... ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 02:55 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1114th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: So, they killed the power bomb with Cody instantly recovering and hitting Shaq with that fist. Are you posting from 1995? ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 03:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1115th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: They got Onita to cut a promo on the Omega-Moxley barbed wire death match. As someone who got all those tapes back in the mid ‘90s, I marked out a little. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 03:02 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1116th Post One Fan Gang Joined: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 Location: Posts: 16317 Status: Offline Mana: Paul Wight with his humble stance and hands in his pockets looks like Ox Baker on The Price is Right. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 04:22 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1117th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Paul Wight said tonight that he had a scoop that he’s be announcing on the PPV on Sunday of the signing of a major Hall of Fame talent. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 08:49 am PM Quote Reply 1118th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Paul Wight said tonight that he had a scoop that he’s be announcing on the PPV on Sunday of the signing of a major Hall of Fame talent. He said "Hall of Fame worthy." Which means it really could be anyone. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 08:57 am PM Quote Reply 1119th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I really enjoyed this show. Using all these names from the past if great, and they are building the young wrestlers. It really doesn't matter if some of the audience have never heard of JJ Dillon. It's clear just from watching the show that he's an important person from wrestling history and it connected to Tully and Arn. If you need to know more, there's the internet. Using two masked man finishes was bad booking, but that's a small complaint. I'm really looking forward to Sunday now. I think they've built every match really well ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 04:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1120th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: Tony Khan previews Sunday's Revolution on this week's "AEW Unrestricted" podcast. PPV related notes coming out of the show: *Chris Jericho and MJF versus Young Bucks for the AEW Tag Team Championship is scheduled to be the first match on the PPV. *The sixth entrant in the Face of the Revolution Ladder Match will be a surprise announced that night. The competitors will be reaching for "a brass ring" suspended over the ring. The winner will face off with Darby Allin for the TNT championship next week on Dynamite. If Darby cannot compete due to injuries suffered in the Street Fight, Darby will be stripped of the title and a new champion will be crowned. *There will be at least 1,300 fans in attendance at Daily's Place, 25% capacity. *The new signing mentioned by Paul Wight on Dynamite is a "big big star" who will sign a multi-year contract. Khan made it clear that the new signing is not the sixth man in the Face of the Revolution Ladder match. *Regarding AEW Dark: Elevation, Tony Khan is excited for the commentary team of Paul Wight and Tony Schiavone. Khan is also excited for when the World's Largest Athlete enters the ring as a competitor. In regards to what "Elevation" will be more focused on young faces and independent names and veterans all mixed in. Khan talks about the show on YouTube being an extension of the "Dark" brand. He talks about how "Dark" transformed during the pandemic, giving independent wrestlers a place to work Tony states that the third hour of television on TNT is coming. But they will not be adding another hour of Dynamite. He hopes they can focus on more stars with the extra hour of television. Because you don't see everyone every week. *Khan is excited for the Exploding Barbed Wire Death Match. Khan puts over both Moxley and Omega. He noted this World Title reign has opened "the forbidden door" and showed that everyone is on the same side against "those that are against them" talking about working with Impact. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 05:07 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1121st Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Paul Wight said tonight that he had a scoop that he’s be announcing on the PPV on Sunday of the signing of a major Hall of Fame talent. Anything short of someone like say CM Punk, who could make an immediate impact is going to be a disappointment. Hope it's not someone like Angle, Foley, etc. ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 05:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1122nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Paul Wight said tonight that he had a scoop that he’s be announcing on the PPV on Sunday of the signing of a major Hall of Fame talent. Anything short of someone like say CM Punk, who could make an immediate impact is going to be a disappointment. Hope it's not someone like Angle, Foley, etc. I can't think of any current star who's a free agent who qualifies as remotely HOF caliber at this stage of their career. The guys who are currently looking for jobs are at the level of Dalton Castle and Ethan Page. Even Eli Drake got snatched up already. Moose is under contract until June and has not yet resigned and that's the biggest name available for a while, and he's definitely not HOF either. Everyone is locked up unless a contract just expired in the past week or so that didn't get heavily publicized. The first person I thought of was Foley and or another legend coming in not as a talent. They never said it would be an active wrestler. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 05:51 pm PM Quote Reply 1123rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Paul Wight said tonight that he had a scoop that he’s be announcing on the PPV on Sunday of the signing of a major Hall of Fame talent. Anything short of someone like say CM Punk, who could make an immediate impact is going to be a disappointment. Hope it's not someone like Angle, Foley, etc. I can't think of any current star who's a free agent who qualifies as remotely HOF caliber at this stage of their career. The guys who are currently looking for jobs are at the level of Dalton Castle and Ethan Page. Even Eli Drake got snatched up already. Moose is under contract until June and has not yet resigned and that's the biggest name available for a while, and he's definitely not HOF either. Everyone is locked up unless a contract just expired in the past week or so that didn't get heavily publicized. The first person I thought of was Foley and or another legend coming in not as a talent. They never said it would be an active wrestler. Angle and Foley are already in the WWE HOF, so I *think* that rules them out. The internet is going crazy trying to guess who this could be. Cody is on record saying this is not a bait and switch, so it is going to be someone of note. Punk is the obvious choice, but Wight did say that it's not who we think it is. I hope it's Brock Lesnar, not because I want to see Brock in AEW, but it would be the ultimate trolling of Vince and WWE. Or John Cena, but he might still be under contract with WWE. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 05:54 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1124th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Paul Wight said tonight that he had a scoop that he’s be announcing on the PPV on Sunday of the signing of a major Hall of Fame talent. Anything short of someone like say CM Punk, who could make an immediate impact is going to be a disappointment. Hope it's not someone like Angle, Foley, etc. I can't think of any current star who's a free agent who qualifies as remotely HOF caliber at this stage of their career. The guys who are currently looking for jobs are at the level of Dalton Castle and Ethan Page. Even Eli Drake got snatched up already. Moose is under contract until June and has not yet resigned and that's the biggest name available for a while, and he's definitely not HOF either. Everyone is locked up unless a contract just expired in the past week or so that didn't get heavily publicized. The first person I thought of was Foley and or another legend coming in not as a talent. They never said it would be an active wrestler. Angle and Foley are already in the WWE HOF, so I *think* that rules them out. The internet is going crazy trying to guess who this could be. Cody is on record saying this is not a bait and switch, so it is going to be someone of note. Punk is the obvious choice, but Wight did say that it's not who we think it is. I hope it's Brock Lesnar, not because I want to see Brock in AEW, but it would be the ultimate trolling of Vince and WWE. Or John Cena, but he might still be under contract with WWE. God I hope it's not Lesnar. He'll sell his soul to the highest bidder and has no loyalty, but I just don't want to see these 2 minutes squash main events anymore. Cena jumping would be apocalyptic just because he's the ultimate company man, and I don't see any scenario in which that happens. I can't imagine what Vince would have to do to make Cena that mad. He wouldn't just go for an extra few bucks. It's nice to have a real surprise that hasn't leaked. Hopefully it lives up to the hype. I don't think AEW would be that dumb to pull a Dixie Carter, especially after double-downing on the promise that it is big. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 06:11 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1125th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: First person I thought of was RVD. Then Angle. Because at this stage, I can't ever expect to see Punk back even though it makes sense. If he blew through a couple million more than he made over the last seven years trying to be a real fighter, then maybe he wants to get that money back. Would be awesome to see him in the same place as Colt Cabana too - in a car crash sort of way. Another thing - could it be Brian Danielson coming in after Wrestlemania? It wouldn't be unprecedented, Vince signed Lex Luger while he was still under a WCW contract, but he signed him to the WBF. The Khan's can sign him to a personal services deal that becomes a wrestler's contract the minute he is eligible. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 06:15 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1126th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Angle and Foley are already in the WWE HOF, so I *think* that rules them out. The internet is going crazy trying to guess who this could be. Cody is on record saying this is not a bait and switch, so it is going to be someone of note. Punk is the obvious choice, but Wight did say that it's not who we think it is. I hope it's Brock Lesnar, not because I want to see Brock in AEW, but it would be the ultimate trolling of Vince and WWE. Or John Cena, but he might still be under contract with WWE. You know, Stephanie was able to sell Rupert Murdoch on WWE by bringing him Brock Lesnar and Ronda Rousey. And the minute the ink was dry, Ronda left and Brock went to Raw. If Brock ends up on TNT, I can bet you that Murdoch will blow a gasket. The ripple effect could be that he cancels Smackdown. Vince can try to sue him for the remainder of the TV contract, but I don't think Murdoch would have to work very hard to defend himself by saying that the ratings have been lousy and that he got a lot less than what he was promised. That, and that alone, is why I would love for it to be Lesnar. But I don't think Lesnar even wanted the 20 dates per year that WWE wanted him to do, and I also can't see him wanting to travel back and forth to Jacksonville. Unless the Khan Private Jet goes to get him. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 06:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1127th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: First person I thought of was RVD. Then Angle. Because at this stage, I can't ever expect to see Punk back even though it makes sense. If he blew through a couple million more than he made over the last seven years trying to be a real fighter, then maybe he wants to get that money back. Would be awesome to see him in the same place as Colt Cabana too - in a car crash sort of way. Another thing - could it be Brian Danielson coming in after Wrestlemania? It wouldn't be unprecedented, Vince signed Lex Luger while he was still under a WCW contract, but he signed him to the WBF. The Khan's can sign him to a personal services deal that becomes a wrestler's contract the minute he is eligible. RVD looked awful during his last Impact run to the point that they turned him "losing a step" into an angle, and he couldn't get medically cleared to even wrestle one special appearance match in WWE. RVD would embarrass and possibly hurt himself trying to keep up with guys like Rey Fenix and the Young Bucks at this point. It would be nothing short of irresponsible to sign him long-term, not to mention a disappointment for the fans who are expecting more. And they can't legally negotiate with Bryan while he's under contract, so that's another big no-no. WWE's lawyers would rip that apart. Not worth it when they can just wait. I doubt Bryan would be interested anyway, he's spoken about how he is winding down his career and is done full-time at the end of his contract. I can't imagine that WWE can't keep him happy and locked up for just special appearances going forward. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 06:21 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1128th Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Paul Wight said tonight that he had a scoop that he’s be announcing on the PPV on Sunday of the signing of a major Hall of Fame talent. Anything short of someone like say CM Punk, who could make an immediate impact is going to be a disappointment. Hope it's not someone like Angle, Foley, etc. I can't think of any current star who's a free agent who qualifies as remotely HOF caliber at this stage of their career. The guys who are currently looking for jobs are at the level of Dalton Castle and Ethan Page. Even Eli Drake got snatched up already. Moose is under contract until June and has not yet resigned and that's the biggest name available for a while, and he's definitely not HOF either. Everyone is locked up unless a contract just expired in the past week or so that didn't get heavily publicized. The first person I thought of was Foley and or another legend coming in not as a talent. They never said it would be an active wrestler. Angle and Foley are already in the WWE HOF, so I *think* that rules them out. The internet is going crazy trying to guess who this could be. Cody is on record saying this is not a bait and switch, so it is going to be someone of note. Punk is the obvious choice, but Wight did say that it's not who we think it is. I hope it's Brock Lesnar, not because I want to see Brock in AEW, but it would be the ultimate trolling of Vince and WWE. Or John Cena, but he might still be under contract with WWE. God I hope it's not Lesnar. He'll sell his soul to the highest bidder and has no loyalty, but I just don't want to see these 2 minutes squash main events anymore. Cena jumping would be apocalyptic just because he's the ultimate company man, and I don't see any scenario in which that happens. I can't imagine what Vince would have to do to make Cena that mad. He wouldn't just go for an extra few bucks. It's nice to have a real surprise that hasn't leaked. Hopefully it lives up to the hype. I don't think AEW would be that dumb to pull a Dixie Carter, especially after double-downing on the promise that it is big. If Lesnar came in and destroyed whoever wins the exploding, barbed wire, garbage match on Sunday, Wrestling Twitter would commit suicide. ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 06:24 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1129th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Paul Wight said tonight that he had a scoop that he’s be announcing on the PPV on Sunday of the signing of a major Hall of Fame talent. Anything short of someone like say CM Punk, who could make an immediate impact is going to be a disappointment. Hope it's not someone like Angle, Foley, etc. I can't think of any current star who's a free agent who qualifies as remotely HOF caliber at this stage of their career. The guys who are currently looking for jobs are at the level of Dalton Castle and Ethan Page. Even Eli Drake got snatched up already. Moose is under contract until June and has not yet resigned and that's the biggest name available for a while, and he's definitely not HOF either. Everyone is locked up unless a contract just expired in the past week or so that didn't get heavily publicized. The first person I thought of was Foley and or another legend coming in not as a talent. They never said it would be an active wrestler. Angle and Foley are already in the WWE HOF, so I *think* that rules them out. The internet is going crazy trying to guess who this could be. Cody is on record saying this is not a bait and switch, so it is going to be someone of note. Punk is the obvious choice, but Wight did say that it's not who we think it is. I hope it's Brock Lesnar, not because I want to see Brock in AEW, but it would be the ultimate trolling of Vince and WWE. Or John Cena, but he might still be under contract with WWE. God I hope it's not Lesnar. He'll sell his soul to the highest bidder and has no loyalty, but I just don't want to see these 2 minutes squash main events anymore. Cena jumping would be apocalyptic just because he's the ultimate company man, and I don't see any scenario in which that happens. I can't imagine what Vince would have to do to make Cena that mad. He wouldn't just go for an extra few bucks. It's nice to have a real surprise that hasn't leaked. Hopefully it lives up to the hype. I don't think AEW would be that dumb to pull a Dixie Carter, especially after double-downing on the promise that it is big. If Lesnar came in and destroyed whoever wins the exploding, barbed wire, garbage match on Sunday, Wrestling Twitter would commit suicide. Lesnar and Moxley have some history. They wrestled an awful match at WM that Moxley publicly blamed Lesnar for everywhere, including on WWE TV (I think Steve Austin's interview show on WWE Network). Moxley got heat for that, but they aired it. Moxley called Lesnar lazy and unwilling to do anything. If they wanted to turn that into a working shoot, they have something there. But God I hope not, because Lesnar is unwilling to do anything for real so how would that ever pay off? And from a kayfabe perspective, Lesnar dominated him the first time so why would anyone want to see a rematch? ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 07:26 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1130th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Paul Wight said tonight that he had a scoop that he’s be announcing on the PPV on Sunday of the signing of a major Hall of Fame talent. Anything short of someone like say CM Punk, who could make an immediate impact is going to be a disappointment. Hope it's not someone like Angle, Foley, etc. I can't think of any current star who's a free agent who qualifies as remotely HOF caliber at this stage of their career. The guys who are currently looking for jobs are at the level of Dalton Castle and Ethan Page. Even Eli Drake got snatched up already. Moose is under contract until June and has not yet resigned and that's the biggest name available for a while, and he's definitely not HOF either. Everyone is locked up unless a contract just expired in the past week or so that didn't get heavily publicized. The first person I thought of was Foley and or another legend coming in not as a talent. They never said it would be an active wrestler. Angle and Foley are already in the WWE HOF, so I *think* that rules them out. The internet is going crazy trying to guess who this could be. Cody is on record saying this is not a bait and switch, so it is going to be someone of note. Punk is the obvious choice, but Wight did say that it's not who we think it is. I hope it's Brock Lesnar, not because I want to see Brock in AEW, but it would be the ultimate trolling of Vince and WWE. Or John Cena, but he might still be under contract with WWE. God I hope it's not Lesnar. He'll sell his soul to the highest bidder and has no loyalty, but I just don't want to see these 2 minutes squash main events anymore. Cena jumping would be apocalyptic just because he's the ultimate company man, and I don't see any scenario in which that happens. I can't imagine what Vince would have to do to make Cena that mad. He wouldn't just go for an extra few bucks. It's nice to have a real surprise that hasn't leaked. Hopefully it lives up to the hype. I don't think AEW would be that dumb to pull a Dixie Carter, especially after double-downing on the promise that it is big. If Lesnar came in and destroyed whoever wins the exploding, barbed wire, garbage match on Sunday, Wrestling Twitter would commit suicide. Lesnar and Moxley have some history. They wrestled an awful match at WM that Moxley publicly blamed Lesnar for everywhere, including on WWE TV (I think Steve Austin's interview show on WWE Network). Moxley got heat for that, but they aired it. Moxley called Lesnar lazy and unwilling to do anything. If they wanted to turn that into a working shoot, they have something there. But God I hope not, because Lesnar is unwilling to do anything for real so how would that ever pay off? And from a kayfabe perspective, Lesnar dominated him the first time so why would anyone want to see a rematch? I just don’t see it being Lesnar or Cena, and most everyone else of note is already a HOFer. Could it be someone from Japan perhaps? ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 07:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1131st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Paul Wight said tonight that he had a scoop that he’s be announcing on the PPV on Sunday of the signing of a major Hall of Fame talent. Anything short of someone like say CM Punk, who could make an immediate impact is going to be a disappointment. Hope it's not someone like Angle, Foley, etc. I can't think of any current star who's a free agent who qualifies as remotely HOF caliber at this stage of their career. The guys who are currently looking for jobs are at the level of Dalton Castle and Ethan Page. Even Eli Drake got snatched up already. Moose is under contract until June and has not yet resigned and that's the biggest name available for a while, and he's definitely not HOF either. Everyone is locked up unless a contract just expired in the past week or so that didn't get heavily publicized. The first person I thought of was Foley and or another legend coming in not as a talent. They never said it would be an active wrestler. Angle and Foley are already in the WWE HOF, so I *think* that rules them out. The internet is going crazy trying to guess who this could be. Cody is on record saying this is not a bait and switch, so it is going to be someone of note. Punk is the obvious choice, but Wight did say that it's not who we think it is. I hope it's Brock Lesnar, not because I want to see Brock in AEW, but it would be the ultimate trolling of Vince and WWE. Or John Cena, but he might still be under contract with WWE. God I hope it's not Lesnar. He'll sell his soul to the highest bidder and has no loyalty, but I just don't want to see these 2 minutes squash main events anymore. Cena jumping would be apocalyptic just because he's the ultimate company man, and I don't see any scenario in which that happens. I can't imagine what Vince would have to do to make Cena that mad. He wouldn't just go for an extra few bucks. It's nice to have a real surprise that hasn't leaked. Hopefully it lives up to the hype. I don't think AEW would be that dumb to pull a Dixie Carter, especially after double-downing on the promise that it is big. If Lesnar came in and destroyed whoever wins the exploding, barbed wire, garbage match on Sunday, Wrestling Twitter would commit suicide. Lesnar and Moxley have some history. They wrestled an awful match at WM that Moxley publicly blamed Lesnar for everywhere, including on WWE TV (I think Steve Austin's interview show on WWE Network). Moxley got heat for that, but they aired it. Moxley called Lesnar lazy and unwilling to do anything. If they wanted to turn that into a working shoot, they have something there. But God I hope not, because Lesnar is unwilling to do anything for real so how would that ever pay off? And from a kayfabe perspective, Lesnar dominated him the first time so why would anyone want to see a rematch? I just don’t see it being Lesnar or Cena, and most everyone else of note is already a HOFer. Could it be someone from Japan perhaps? Other than Tanahashi (well past his prime) and Okada, who aren't leaving NJPW, I don't think any other name would mean that much even to the smart mark audience of AEW. Maybe a gaijin who's become a star in Japan and now wants to work full-time in America? I can't think of an obvious name. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 07:47 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1132nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: The one guy who would make an even bigger impact than Cena would be The Undertaker. I have no idea what his contract status is now, but I assume he's locked up for a while. I can't imagine any role that The Undertaker could play in AEW other than continuing to wrestle his 1 match a year until he drops, but the name recognition is so huge that if they could get him you almost don't even worry about how you can use him. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 08:28 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1133rd Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: Rumor is Christian isn't under a contract. Meltzer is speculating it could be him. ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 08:31 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1134th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: Rumor is Christian isn't under a contract. Meltzer is speculating it could be him. If true, eh. Would be kinda like that sound a balloon makes when you let all the air out. Last edited on Thu Mar 4th, 2021 08:31 pm by cookie32723 ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 08:36 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1135th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: Rumor is Christian isn't under a contract. Meltzer is speculating it could be him. If true, eh. Would be kinda like that sound a balloon makes when you let all the air out. Christian was a big signing for Impact...15 years ago. He worked really hard there and probably has a couple of good matches left in him, but this will not be well received by most fans expecting more. They really have to be careful about going the WCW route and signing a bunch of guys over 40, or in this case closer to 50 or more. Sting and Big Show back-to-back, they need this next one to be younger with more in the tank. Of course from AEW's perspective, the trickle-down effect of WWE's inability to create new stars over a 20 year period is that there's no one young and relevant to steal. So the days of the "OMG, he doesn't work here!" surprises of the Monday Night Wars, when you also had major ECW names defecting too, just doesn't exist anymore. The only route to success is to create your own stars, and that's hard work and takes a long time. But they can't get distracted from that goal or they'll never succeed. They can't be stealing Apollo Crews in 5 years and making a big deal out of it. There's just no one on the horizon. AEW has to do this themselves. They exist because of WWE's long-term failures in this area, so they can't rely on WWE talent to pop a number. WWE can't pop a number with their "legends" anymore, so AEW surely won't be able to. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 09:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1136th Post kargol Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Brum, United Kingdom Posts: 5565 Status: Offline Mana: Wouldn't be Rousey, would it? ____________________ superfunkymean Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 09:41 pm PM Quote Reply 1137th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: Rumor is Christian isn't under a contract. Meltzer is speculating it could be him. If true, eh. Would be kinda like that sound a balloon makes when you let all the air out. Christian was a big signing for Impact...15 years ago. He worked really hard there and probably has a couple of good matches left in him, but this will not be well received by most fans expecting more. They really have to be careful about going the WCW route and signing a bunch of guys over 40, or in this case closer to 50 or more. Sting and Big Show back-to-back, they need this next one to be younger with more in the tank. Of course from AEW's perspective, the trickle-down effect of WWE's inability to create new stars over a 20 year period is that there's no one young and relevant to steal. So the days of the "OMG, he doesn't work here!" surprises of the Monday Night Wars, when you also had major ECW names defecting too, just doesn't exist anymore. The only route to success is to create your own stars, and that's hard work and takes a long time. But they can't get distracted from that goal or they'll never succeed. They can't be stealing Apollo Crews in 5 years and making a big deal out of it. There's just no one on the horizon. AEW has to do this themselves. They exist because of WWE's long-term failures in this area, so they can't rely on WWE talent to pop a number. WWE can't pop a number with their "legends" anymore, so AEW surely won't be able to. You would have thought that having NXT would improve things, but it's making things worse. WWE waste years of a wrestlers career in developmental when watching one episode of AEW Dark shows you that the Performance Center is the biggest waste of money in the history of wrestling. Paying wrestlers to learn to be worse wrestlers than ones who work the indies for a few years. Some people have been there five years or more without getting any meaningful TV time, or even none at all. Signing people in their mid to late 30s? It's ridiculous. So now the top guys in NXT are all older guys as well. Damian Priest recently debuted on the main roster. He's 38 years old. Vince thought Hulk Hogan was done at 38. They were so afraid of competition that they ended up with over 250 wrestlers under contract, and here's AEW with a huge roster and an even larger number of associated freelancers, and they're all at least tv-ready (more-or-less). All this fucking around signing amateur wrestlers and football players and whatever. What a waste of everyone's time and money. Look at the time they put into The Street Profits. Training them from scratch for years. Numerous failed gimmicks until they put them together as a team. And for what? They're okay, I guess, but were they worth all that effort? AEW put The Acclaimed together on a whim in October, and they're at least equal. Private Party may have had some rough edges and be weak on promos, but AEW didn't have to pay for their training for 5 years. Top Flight are 10 years younger than them. Last edited on Thu Mar 4th, 2021 09:45 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 09:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1138th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: Rumor is Christian isn't under a contract. Meltzer is speculating it could be him. If true, eh. Would be kinda like that sound a balloon makes when you let all the air out. Christian was a big signing for Impact...15 years ago. He worked really hard there and probably has a couple of good matches left in him, but this will not be well received by most fans expecting more. They really have to be careful about going the WCW route and signing a bunch of guys over 40, or in this case closer to 50 or more. Sting and Big Show back-to-back, they need this next one to be younger with more in the tank. Of course from AEW's perspective, the trickle-down effect of WWE's inability to create new stars over a 20 year period is that there's no one young and relevant to steal. So the days of the "OMG, he doesn't work here!" surprises of the Monday Night Wars, when you also had major ECW names defecting too, just doesn't exist anymore. The only route to success is to create your own stars, and that's hard work and takes a long time. But they can't get distracted from that goal or they'll never succeed. They can't be stealing Apollo Crews in 5 years and making a big deal out of it. There's just no one on the horizon. AEW has to do this themselves. They exist because of WWE's long-term failures in this area, so they can't rely on WWE talent to pop a number. WWE can't pop a number with their "legends" anymore, so AEW surely won't be able to. You would have thought that having NXT would improve things, but it's making things worse. WWE waste years of a wrestlers career in developmental when watching one episode of AEW Dark shows you that the Performance Center is the biggest waste of money in the history of wrestling. Paying wrestlers to learn to be worse wrestlers than ones who work the indies for a few years. Some people have been there five years or more without getting any meaningful TV time, or even none at all. Signing people in their mid to late 30s? It's ridiculous. So now the top guys in NXT are all older guys as well. Damian Priest recently debuted on the main roster. He's 38 years old. Vince thought Hulk Hogan was done at 38. They were so afraid of competition that they ended up with over 250 wrestlers under contract, and here's AEW with a huge roster and an even larger number of associated freelancers, and they're all at least tv-ready (more-or-less). All this fucking around signing amateur wrestlers and football players and whatever. What a waste of everyone's time and money. Look at the years they put into The Street Profits. Training them from scratch for years. Numerous failed gimmicks until they put them together as a team. And for what? They're okay, I guess, but were they worth all that effort? AEW put The Acclaimed together on a whim in October, and they're at least equal. Private Party may have had some rough edges and be weak on promos, but AEW didn't have to pay for their training for 5 years. Top Flight are 10 years younger than them. Yes and no. NXT ceased being a developmental territory a long time ago. Now it serves its purpose as the WWE's in-house indy, keeping top indy talent away from other companies while providing a segment of their fanbase with a show they actually like (theoretically). It also was a great source of content for the WWE Network before they abandoned that. I won't get into the devolution of NXT since moving to USA, but more or less it holds true and is still a far superior product. If NXT and NXT UK didn't exist, you'd have guys like Finn Balor and Adam Cole jobbing on Main Event and guys like Kyle O'Reilly and Pete Dunne certainly never would've been signed. Some would be tearing it up in AEW but most would be stuck in ROH for 10-15 years like Roderick Strong was, and eventually that gets old too and it's not like ROH is fantastic anymore either. Many others wouldn't be doing anything at all and probably would've quit the business by now. So I'll take it. As far as actually developing talents go, Street Profits could be a success story. Montez Ford is a s good a natural athlete as WWE has on their roster and Angelo Dawkins eventually became decent after years in the PC and being lent to EVOLVE. They made it to the top of the NXT tag division and legitimately got over, ad they're still young. We all know that's not the problem. The problem is always when they get called up and Vince just completely changes everything about them. He still treats NXT like he treated a competitor. He's never understood that he owns NXT too and the purpose is to find something that works and then KEEP IT. Instead, they spend years getting people ready only for Vince to act like it's ECW and shit all over it and say they only got over because it was small-time in front of smarks. It's his own fucking company and the purpose is to get them to the main roster, and that's not what happens. Then HHH has to eat shit and pretend, "Yeah, yeah, well WWE is really so different from NXT with all different fans so what works here doesn't play up there." First of all, bullshit. Secondly, if that's true then fire yourself because you just admitted you can't do your job. But what else can he say? Vince is an out-of-touch control freak with dementia and ruins everything he's touched the last 20 years? ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 10:03 pm PM Quote Reply 1139th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I have no problem with the NXT product. The whole concept of the PC is just ridiculous, though. All they have done is produce some okay to good wrestlers, no better than what is already out there. The difference being, they have paid these guys to learn how to wrestle. Imagine any other job where you could get hired before you know how to do the job, and after five years of training, you still weren't good enough to do the job, all the while getting paid. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 10:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1140th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I have no problem with the NXT product. The whole concept of the PC is just ridiculous, though. All they have done is produce some okay to good wrestlers, no better than what is already out there. The difference being, they have paid these guys to learn how to wrestle. Imagine any other job where you could get hired before you know how to do the job, and after five years of training, you still weren't good enough to do the job, all the while getting paid. I agree the concept is ridiculous except with a handful of really elite amateur wrestlers (with personality). Even then, if you don't get it in 1 year, you probably won't. Angle got it in 6 months, not just ready for TV but being elite on TV. He was a generational talent but others should be good enough to jerk the curtain in a year or it ain't happening. So yeah, spending years with a girl like Aaliyah or whatever her name is, who just now has advanced to the point where she can be in a curtain-jerker female tag team without embarrassing herself too much, is crazy. It's not like there isn't a shortage of good indy wrestlers out there who already know how to step into the ring without falling. Tyler Rust is the one guy I picked out of the whole Championship Wrestling From Hollywood scene who had potential. I said this a year ago. Finding talent isn't rocket science. You bring those guys in and should know what you have within a few months tops. None of this addresses the real problem though, which is Vince and his vision compared to NXT's. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 10:16 pm PM Quote Reply 1141st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: None of this addresses the real problem though, which is Vince and his vision compared to NXT's. For being the top guy in NXT for the last three years, I wonder if Adam Cole knows that all Vince sees is a guy who's too small? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 10:21 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1142nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: None of this addresses the real problem though, which is Vince and his vision compared to NXT's. For being the top guy in NXT for the last three years, I wonder if Adam Cole knows that all Vince sees is a guy who's too small? If he didn't, I'm sure Finn Balor told him. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 10:21 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1143rd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: Rumor is Christian isn't under a contract. Meltzer is speculating it could be him. I thought Christian too. And I thought that because of Edge coming back. But Edge played WWE against AEW, and WWE gave him seven figures. And I know that WWE has never, ever viewed Christian in the same light as Edge, but still - you'd think they would sign him up. If they say he can't pass their physical, then he shouldn't be with AEW anyway. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 10:22 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1144th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: Rumor is Christian isn't under a contract. Meltzer is speculating it could be him. I thought Christian too. And I thought that because of Edge coming back. But Edge played WWE against AEW, and WWE gave him seven figures. And I know that WWE has never, ever viewed Christian in the same light as Edge, but still - you'd think they would sign him up. If they say he can't pass their physical, then he shouldn't be with AEW anyway. If Christian couldn't pass their physical, he wouldn't have just spent 20+ minutes in the Royal Rumble. I think it might've been a Royal Rumble physical that RVD failed a few years back, and he didn't compete in it or anywhere else in WWE ever again. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 11:02 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1145th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: CM Punk has already tweeted "no, it's not me" ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 11:03 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1146th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: A little disappointing that with Shaq, Tully Blanchard, and being the go-home show to a PPV that Dynamite couldn't crack 1 million. They did crush NXT though. PWInsider: The 3/3 edition of AEW Dynamite, featuring NBA legend Shaquille O'Neal wrestling, did 934,000 overnight viewers, up from last week's 831,000. They did a 0.33 in the 18-49 demographic, down from last week's 0.35. The special previewing this weekend's PPV did 347,000 overnight viewers and a 0.12 in the demo. The 3/3 edition of NXT did 692,000 overnight viewers, down from last week's 734,000. They did a 0.20 rating in the 18-49 demographic, up from last week's 0.18. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 08:29 am PM Quote Reply 1147th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Whoever it ends up being, AEW got more of a buzz (at least in the IWC) about this announcement that WWE got with two world title changes. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 04:44 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1148th Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: Zelina Vega. Didn't Khan do an interview where he was praising her and saying he would love to get her into AEW? Christian is locked up to the WWE according to cageside seats ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 04:50 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1149th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: Zelina Vega. Didn't Khan do an interview where he was praising her and saying he would love to get her into AEW? Christian is locked up to the WWE according to cageside seats If Tony Khan brings out Zelina Vega as his "Big Big Name", he will be a bigger heel to his fanbase than "Mr McMahon" ever was. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 04:50 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1150th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: Zelina Vega. Didn't Khan do an interview where he was praising her and saying he would love to get her into AEW? Christian is locked up to the WWE according to cageside seats If Zelina Vega winds up being the HOF level surprise then the company should immediately shut down that night. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 04:55 pm PM Quote Reply 1151st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: Zelina Vega. Didn't Khan do an interview where he was praising her and saying he would love to get her into AEW? Christian is locked up to the WWE according to cageside seats If Zelina Vega winds up being the HOF level surprise then the company should immediately shut down that night. I've got the scoop. It's going to be Bruce Pobanz. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 06:12 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1152nd Post cheapseats Joined: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 Location: Eastern Panhandle , West Virginia USA Posts: 1249 Status: Offline Mana: It might be the loosest use of the word "signing" but what about Testsuya Naito coming over from NJPW for a run. He just lost in his challenge for the IC title against Ibushi less than two weeks ago. He gets out of NJPW for a bit and lets the title picture breathe some. A change in scenery for him to stretch his legs with some fresh faces would be a win for everyone IMO. Last edited on Fri Mar 5th, 2021 06:14 pm by cheapseats ____________________ Never said that I could 100 % substantiate it. And convincing you 100 % is not a concern of mine. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 06:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1153rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/292.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu292')">cheapseatsa> wrote: It might be the loosest use of the word "signing" but what about Testsuya Naito coming over from NJPW for a run. He just lost in his challenge for the IC title against Ibushi less than two weeks ago. He gets out of NJPW for a bit and lets the title picture breathe some. A change in scenery for him to stretch his legs with so fresh faces would be a win for everyone IMO. They jobbed Naito to Great-O-Khan in a shocking upset in the 1st round of the NJ Cup yesterday, so that was interesting... ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 06:22 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1154th Post cheapseats Joined: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 Location: Eastern Panhandle , West Virginia USA Posts: 1249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/292.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu292')">cheapseatsa> wrote: It might be the loosest use of the word "signing" but what about Testsuya Naito coming over from NJPW for a run. He just lost in his challenge for the IC title against Ibushi less than two weeks ago. He gets out of NJPW for a bit and lets the title picture breathe some. A change in scenery for him to stretch his legs with so fresh faces would be a win for everyone IMO. They jobbed Naito to Great-O-Khan in a shocking upset in the 1st round of the NJ Cup yesterday, so that was interesting... I wasn't aware of that. It appears that they are cooling Naito off so him coming over AEW for a run seems plausible. The pool of talent is there for him to work with...Omega, Jericho, Moxley, Fenix, Page just for starters. ____________________ Never said that I could 100 % substantiate it. And convincing you 100 % is not a concern of mine. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 06:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1155th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/292.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu292')">cheapseatsa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/292.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu292')">cheapseatsa> wrote: It might be the loosest use of the word "signing" but what about Testsuya Naito coming over from NJPW for a run. He just lost in his challenge for the IC title against Ibushi less than two weeks ago. He gets out of NJPW for a bit and lets the title picture breathe some. A change in scenery for him to stretch his legs with so fresh faces would be a win for everyone IMO. They jobbed Naito to Great-O-Khan in a shocking upset in the 1st round of the NJ Cup yesterday, so that was interesting... I wasn't aware of that. It appears that they are cooling Naito off so him coming over AEW for a run seems plausible. The pool of talent is there for him to work with...Omega, Jericho, Moxley, Fenix, Page just for starters. I don't know how much Naito would mean to the average AEW viewer, maybe more than I think. I personally would love it. Some would be very disappointed. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 06:38 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1156th Post cheapseats Joined: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 Location: Eastern Panhandle , West Virginia USA Posts: 1249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/292.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu292')">cheapseatsa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/292.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu292')">cheapseatsa> wrote: It might be the loosest use of the word "signing" but what about Testsuya Naito coming over from NJPW for a run. He just lost in his challenge for the IC title against Ibushi less than two weeks ago. He gets out of NJPW for a bit and lets the title picture breathe some. A change in scenery for him to stretch his legs with so fresh faces would be a win for everyone IMO. They jobbed Naito to Great-O-Khan in a shocking upset in the 1st round of the NJ Cup yesterday, so that was interesting... I wasn't aware of that. It appears that they are cooling Naito off so him coming over AEW for a run seems plausible. The pool of talent is there for him to work with...Omega, Jericho, Moxley, Fenix, Page just for starters. I don't know how much Naito would mean to the average AEW viewer, maybe more than I think. I personally would love it. Some would be very disappointed. If it's true the average AEW viewer are a bunch of wrestling nerds, then they will jizz their pants if they announce Naito as coming in. He's got the lineage for sure ...2 time G1 winner, New Japan Cup winner, headlined WK, has one every title in NJPW available except the US and 6 man titles (which are beneath him at this point in his career). Besides, he is 38 and still has gas in the tank. Plus he has had a few minor injuries in the past month and I am sure the less arduous schedule of AEW will give him a chance to heal up that he wouldn't get if he was pushed hard in NJPW. ____________________ Never said that I could 100 % substantiate it. And convincing you 100 % is not a concern of mine. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 06:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1157th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: Zelina Vega. Didn't Khan do an interview where he was praising her and saying he would love to get her into AEW? Christian is locked up to the WWE according to cageside seats If Zelina Vega winds up being the HOF level surprise then the company should immediately shut down that night. damn she making at least 400k a year off twitch shit no wonder she bounced with the quickness Last edited on Fri Mar 5th, 2021 06:39 pm by krazykid18 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 06:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1158th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: Zelina Vega. Didn't Khan do an interview where he was praising her and saying he would love to get her into AEW? Christian is locked up to the WWE according to cageside seats If Zelina Vega winds up being the HOF level surprise then the company should immediately shut down that night. damn she making at least 400k a year off twitch shit no wonder she bounced with the quickness I know she was making that, but is she sustaining it post-WWE? If she can keep up even half of that for another few years then fuck it, she should never take another bump again. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 07:02 pm PM Quote Reply 1159th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Naito would make a lot of sense. Kenny Omega was an unknown in the US if you didn't follow Japanese wrestling, and he was accepted as a top guy from day one. I doubt that anyone who knew about Omega before AEW didn't also know about Naito and their matches together. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 08:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1160th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Naito would make a lot of sense. Kenny Omega was an unknown in the US if you didn't follow Japanese wrestling, and he was accepted as a top guy from day one. I doubt that anyone who knew about Omega before AEW didn't also know about Naito and their matches together. Exactly. That, and the fact that there are few, if any, legitimate future HOF guys out there in the US, is why I was thinking Japan could be where the new signee is coming from. Last edited on Fri Mar 5th, 2021 09:24 pm by cookie32723 ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2021 11:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1161st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Naito wasn't on today's NJPW show, selling the leg injury he took from Great-O-Khan yesterday. So maybe there's something to this. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 6th, 2021 12:44 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1162nd Post cheapseats Joined: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 Location: Eastern Panhandle , West Virginia USA Posts: 1249 Status: Offline Mana: We’ve had KENTA show up on Dynamite last month. It’s not unthinkable for more NJPW talent to show up. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Moxley to defend the US title on a future AEW show either. NJPW cam at least have their belt featured on national TV. ____________________ Never said that I could 100 % substantiate it. And convincing you 100 % is not a concern of mine. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 6th, 2021 07:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1163rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Chris Jericho bashed WWE on his latest podcast for their treatment of Sting and The Big Show the last few years, saying they were disrespected at every turn and then Vince had the nerve to feel betrayed when they signed with AEW. He said that AEW treats legends with respect and seemingly invited other disgruntled WWE legends to come to AEW. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 6th, 2021 07:45 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1164th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Naito would make a lot of sense. Kenny Omega was an unknown in the US if you didn't follow Japanese wrestling, and he was accepted as a top guy from day one. I doubt that anyone who knew about Omega before AEW didn't also know about Naito and their matches together. Exactly. That, and the fact that there are few, if any, legitimate future HOF guys out there in the US, is why I was thinking Japan could be where the new signee is coming from. Although Naito is a good guess, if he came to AEW it would be as a loaner. I won’t say excursion because he’s too established for that, but it would be the equivalent. Tony Khan just reiterated that this person is signing a long-term contract. Naito is not doing that. If his contract with NJPW had expired and he was leaving to sign elsewhere, we’d know about it and NJPW would’ve made an announcement that he was leaving. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 6th, 2021 09:11 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1165th Post Erick Von Erich Joined: Thu Mar 26th, 2015 Location: Texas USA Posts: 960 Status: Offline Mana: Surely, it's Lex Luger. Right? ____________________ www.dawrestlingsite.com Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 7th, 2021 05:57 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1166th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: It's going to be Kurt Angle. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 7th, 2021 07:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1167th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Based on Angle’s social media the last 24 hours it does seem to be him. He was extremely and vocally unhappy with his retirement match being against Baron Corbin so no surprise he wants to wrestle again. But he has nothing left in the tank and is an in-ring death waiting to happen. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 7th, 2021 08:36 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1168th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Naito was back in action on NJPW's show today, so he's not the surprise. It's technically possible for him to catch a flight to America all night to be there in time for Revolution, but highly unlikely. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2021 04:39 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1169th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: It’s Christian Cage. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2021 07:44 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1170th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: It’s Christian Cage. Ugh. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2021 12:57 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1171st Post cheapseats Joined: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 Location: Eastern Panhandle , West Virginia USA Posts: 1249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: It’s Christian Cage. Ugh. Ugh indeed. ____________________ Never said that I could 100 % substantiate it. And convincing you 100 % is not a concern of mine. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2021 07:01 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1172nd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/292.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu292')">cheapseatsa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: It’s Christian Cage. Ugh. Ugh indeed. Why is this bad and also, who were you expecting? This is better than Kurt Angle or Rob Van Dam, both "hall of fame worthy people". Unless they brought in CM Punk or a big japanese star, this is as big as it gets. Would you have rather had Goldberg or another old WCW guy? You were never getting Cena, or for that matter Austin. And if you did get Austin, you don't get him for any matches so why bother? And while people may have been impressed by the name value of Brock Lesnar, they would never sign him based on how he won't do anything he doesn't want to do, money or not. He likes taking Vince's money to work the days that he chooses. The thing I don't understand is how guys on the "Permanently Disqualified" list ever get re-cleared by WWE. Rossi was saying that Christian was bumping in the Royal Rumble, and I had no clue. So now it's Edge, Christian, and Daniel Bryan that got themselves reinstated. It's crazy - just means like Punk said, don't trust WWE doctors, use your own. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2021 07:08 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1173rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/292.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu292')">cheapseatsa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: It’s Christian Cage. Ugh. Ugh indeed. Why is this bad and also, who were you expecting? This is better than Kurt Angle or Rob Van Dam, both "hall of fame worthy people". Unless they brought in CM Punk or a big japanese star, this is as big as it gets. Would you have rather had Goldberg or another old WCW guy? You were never getting Cena, or for that matter Austin. And if you did get Austin, you don't get him for any matches so why bother? And while people may have been impressed by the name value of Brock Lesnar, they would never sign him based on how he won't do anything he doesn't want to do, money or not. He likes taking Vince's money to work the days that he chooses. The thing I don't understand is how guys on the "Permanently Disqualified" list ever get re-cleared by WWE. Rossi was saying that Christian was bumping in the Royal Rumble, and I had no clue. So now it's Edge, Christian, and Daniel Bryan that got themselves reinstated. It's crazy - just means like Punk said, don't trust WWE doctors, use your own. Was Christian "permanently disqualified"? I know he had injury issues of course, and WWE had to clear him before that Rumble. But I'm not sure if he was ever as bad as Bryan and Edge with their history of neck and head injuries. But WWE clearly dropped the ball here. He wasn't just a "blast from the past" guy they brought back for a one-off. I think he went 22 minutes in the Rumble and did the reunion with Edge angle, and there was every expectation that he was signing a long-term deal with them. The fact that they didn't get that done BEFORE putting him over strong shows you that they're just not on top of things like they used to be. They're also underestimating AEW by trying to low-ball guys not thinking they'll leave, and they are all leaving. This is WCW in 1995. It takes 1 or 2 guys for the floodgates to open and everyone to realize that they can leave. You have Sting, Show, and Christian in the span of 3 months all jumping and idiot AEW fans are shitting on it, but this is huge in terms of psychology. It's become acceptable to go to AEW whether you're an underutilized mid-carder or a legend now, and more will follow. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 9th, 2021 12:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1174th Post tamalie HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 Location: Posts: 5157 Status: Offline Mana: The build up for the surprise was too big for Christian to be the payoff. Even if it was fans heading off into fantasy land with dreams of CM Punk and Brock Lesnar, for the promotion it’s all about setting realistic expectations and then delivering a payoff that exceeds them. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 9th, 2021 12:46 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1175th Post cheapseats Joined: Thu Jul 8th, 2010 Location: Eastern Panhandle , West Virginia USA Posts: 1249 Status: Offline Mana: So much for my prediction. I still think it would benefit NJPW to have some of there upper level guys cycle through AEW for a few months at a time. ____________________ Never said that I could 100 % substantiate it. And convincing you 100 % is not a concern of mine. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 9th, 2021 03:11 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1176th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: What did you all think of that "explosive" ending to their PPV last night? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Mar 10th, 2021 04:09 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1177th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: In a shocking announcement at the end of Impact tonight, Scott D’Amore announced a series of unification title matches. This Saturday at Sacrifice Rich Swann will defend the Impact title against Moose’s TNA title. The winner will then face AEW champ Kenny Omega at the next Impact PPV Rebellion on April 24 titles vs. title. The show ends with Don Callis watching on the monitor speaking to Omega on the phone and saying, “Just as we planned.” Well I didn’t see that one coming. Not sure how Impact gets out of this. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Mar 10th, 2021 02:00 pm PM Quote Reply 1178th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: In a shocking announcement at the end of Impact tonight, Scott D’Amore announced a series of unification title matches. This Saturday at Sacrifice Rich Swann will defend the Impact title against Moose’s TNA title. The winner will then face AEW champ Kenny Omega at the next Impact PPV Rebellion on April 24 titles vs. title. The show ends with Don Callis watching on the monitor speaking to Omega on the phone and saying, “Just as we planned.” Well I didn’t see that one coming. Not sure how Impact gets out of this. For some reason, the Observer website posted this soon after it was taped back in February, with no spoiler warning, including the winner of Swann/Moose match. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Mar 10th, 2021 02:54 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1179th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: In a shocking announcement at the end of Impact tonight, Scott D’Amore announced a series of unification title matches. This Saturday at Sacrifice Rich Swann will defend the Impact title against Moose’s TNA title. The winner will then face AEW champ Kenny Omega at the next Impact PPV Rebellion on April 24 titles vs. title. The show ends with Don Callis watching on the monitor speaking to Omega on the phone and saying, “Just as we planned.” Well I didn’t see that one coming. Not sure how Impact gets out of this. For some reason, the Observer website posted this soon after it was taped back in February, with no spoiler warning, including the winner of Swann/Moose match. That sucks. I never read spoilers from pre-taped shows for this reason. Wouldn't that also spoil that Omega was going to retain against Moxley at the PPV, even though it didn't happen yet? Anyway, it was a shock to me. I don't think the word "unificaction" was ever used for these titles (although it was used for the Impact/TNA match, which makes sense because they shouldn't continue with both titles), but it'll be interesting to see how they do this. If the match ends in a double-DQ like in the old days, fans will be even more pissed than when the ring didn't explode. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 11th, 2021 03:40 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1180th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW is spending WAY too much time trying to turn the non-explosion into an angle. Way too many segments trying to cover up an mistake. You don’t need to bring that much attention to it. And Omega screaming “69 me Don!” is going to become a staple of the Cornette podcast. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 11th, 2021 04:07 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1181st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: This is a really muddled and boring episode of Dynamite. Maybe their worst ever. It’s just one big miss so far. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 11th, 2021 04:38 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1182nd Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: That ending saved the show. ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 11th, 2021 06:16 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1183rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/142.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu142')">brokea> wrote: That ending saved the show. Great double-swerve as MJF and Jericho tried to out-heel each other. They're so fucking good together. Now we have faction warfare. Definitely the only good segment of a dreadful show. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 12th, 2021 10:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1184th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Revolution was a smashing success, grossing over $6 million and becoming the highest-grossing non-WWE PPV since 1999. It also beat many WWE PPVs of the 2000s before they switched to WWE Network. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 16th, 2021 07:32 pm PM Quote Reply 1185th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: AEW Dark Elevation is just another episode of AEW Dark with a different commentary team. I like Dark, and I enjoyed this show, but if you find Dark pointless, then don't watch. Big Show is fine on commentary. I dig the Excalibur/Taz no fucks given commentary. It can be pretty hilarious at times. Schiavone/Big Show are much more straight, and I guess they will take some time to get a good on air rapport going. It fine for a first time out though. I can't stress how good Tony is on commentary. It sounds completely effortless, even having to take the lead PBP role with all these new-to-TV wrestlers. Taking WWE out of the picture with their over-produced commentators, over the past 20 years we've had to put up with second-tier PBP guys like Mike Tenay, Kevin Kelly, Josh Matthews and Matt Striker on commentary and Tony was sitting at home. Criminal. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 16th, 2021 09:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1186th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: AEW Dark Elevation is just another episode of AEW Dark with a different commentary team. I like Dark, and I enjoyed this show, but if you find Dark pointless, then don't watch. Big Show is fine on commentary. I dig the Excalibur/Taz no fucks given commentary. It can be pretty hilarious at times. Schiavone/Big Show are much more straight, and I guess they will take some time to get a good on air rapport going. It fine for a first time out though. I've been watching bits and pieces throughout the day. It's tough to get through just a bunch of additional jobber matches, especially when one of the highlighted jobbers, Danny Limelight, blew about 6 spots in a 4 minute match. The selling point of this first episode seemed to be the main event between Riho and Karaoke Girl, which I could not have possibly cared less about if you paid me, and a brief Omega-Sydal-Tony Khan angle when Khan walks out onto the ramp for the first time in AEW after promising never to be on AEW TV. He's already doing his schtick on Impact every week so you knew it wouldn't be long before he went back on that promise. But if setting up an Omega vs. Sydal non-title match is the only thing of consequence on a show, it's really not worth watching. Big Show was fine on commentary but a bit under-enthused. Taz and Excalibur keep it lighter and more up-tempo, which you desperately need when watching 2 hours of jobbers. This is fine if Dark goes back to one hour and Elevation is one hour. 2 hours each is crazy. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 09:37 am PM Quote Reply 1187th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Holy shit, that was some main event last night. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 03:51 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1188th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Holy shit, that was some main event last night. That had to be the most violent female match in U.S. history. And Britt Baker has become so good, she's easily the star of AEW's lackluster women's division. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 04:16 pm PM Quote Reply 1189th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Holy shit, that was some main event last night. That had to be the most violent female match in U.S. history. And Britt Baker has become so good, she's easily the star of AEW's lackluster women's division. The women of WWE watching that match are either thinking "I wish I was allowed to work a match like that" or "I'm glad I'll never have to work a match like that." ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 04:46 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1190th Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Holy shit, that was some main event last night. Watching it this morning and I was somewhat disgusted. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I don't like seeing women blade and doing death match garbage. Last edited on Thu Mar 18th, 2021 04:49 pm by martini ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 04:49 pm PM Quote Reply 1191st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: One thing that cracked me up was when the bag was brought out. Whenever and wherever this happens, the commentators are always wondering what could be in the bag. "Oh my god! Thumbtacks!" It's always thumbtacks. Every single time. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 04:50 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1192nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: One thing that cracked me up was when the bag was brought out. Whenever and wherever this happens, the commentators are always wondering what could be in the bag. "Oh my god! Thumbtacks!" It's always thumbtacks. Every single time. Occasionally it's glass, or the dreaded Legos. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 05:01 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1193rd Post kargol Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Brum, United Kingdom Posts: 5565 Status: Offline Mana: I think that if I were a rival dentist to Britt Baker, I'd get a pic of her bloodied face on a poster, with the tagline "if this is what she does to herself, imagine what she'd do to you..." ____________________ superfunkymean Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 05:09 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1194th Post khawk Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 19680 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: One thing that cracked me up was when the bag was brought out. Whenever and wherever this happens, the commentators are always wondering what could be in the bag. "Oh my god! Thumbtacks!" It's always thumbtacks. Every single time. Occasionally it's glass, or the dreaded Legos. oh shit, Legos...that would be far worse to take a powerbomb on. ____________________ "It never hurts to use plain language when people are fucking stupid."--gwlee "wrestling fans need to start taking showers it makes no sense to smell the way they smell"--kk18 "Lard is a food group in Arkansas."-Raditch Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 05:49 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1195th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: One thing that cracked me up was when the bag was brought out. Whenever and wherever this happens, the commentators are always wondering what could be in the bag. "Oh my god! Thumbtacks!" It's always thumbtacks. Every single time. Occasionally it's glass, or the dreaded Legos. Honestly think I would rather be powerslammed on tacks than on legos. Legos suck massively. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 05:52 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1196th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Holy shit, that was some main event last night. That had to be the most violent female match in U.S. history. And Britt Baker has become so good, she's easily the star of AEW's lackluster women's division. I said this a couple months ago - Britt Baker is legit and should be the face of the division. When she first hit TV, she was awful and seemed starstruck. It wasn't until she got her nose broken that she really started to show a good personality. That's when she became on-air "best friends" with Tony Schiavone. Since that point, she's been great. I loved her cowardly heel gimmick while in the wheelchair. And I didn't see the match yet but I saw pics of her and she really did that lockerroom proud. Tully and Arn probably were saying "fuck, that blood is on a Dusty level". ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 06:10 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1197th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Holy shit, that was some main event last night. That had to be the most violent female match in U.S. history. And Britt Baker has become so good, she's easily the star of AEW's lackluster women's division. I said this a couple months ago - Britt Baker is legit and should be the face of the division. When she first hit TV, she was awful and seemed starstruck. It wasn't until she got her nose broken that she really started to show a good personality. That's when she became on-air "best friends" with Tony Schiavone. Since that point, she's been great. I loved her cowardly heel gimmick while in the wheelchair. And I didn't see the match yet but I saw pics of her and she really did that lockerroom proud. Tully and Arn probably were saying "fuck, that blood is on a Dusty level". Couldn't agree more. Those first few appearances I thought she was going to shit herself. I never saw anyone more nervous on TV. She could barely speak. Then it just clicked and she starting killing it. She's the 2nd best heel in the whole damn company behind MJF. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 07:13 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1198th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/46.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu46')">kargola> wrote: I think that if I were a rival dentist to Britt Baker, I'd get a pic of her bloodied face on a poster, with the tagline "if this is what she does to herself, imagine what she'd do to you..." Honestly, I thought something similar last night. While I LOVED that match and love her, I kept thinking this CAN'T do her dentistry job any good..and you know that's what pays the bills, not her AEW check.. ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 07:26 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1199th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: Are the angles and storylines in AEW so hot that they need exploding rings and bags of thumbtacks? ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 07:37 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1200th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: Are the angles and storylines in AEW so hot that they need exploding rings and bags of thumbtacks? If we're judging on a curve, then without a doubt. AEW has built these things up for 4-10 months. WWE throws together Hell in a Cell matches just because it's October. So with where we are in 2021, yes I have no problem with it. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. |
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Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2021 11:01 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1201st Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/22.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu22')">Franchisea> wrote: Are the angles and storylines in AEW so hot that they need exploding rings and bags of thumbtacks? If we're judging on a curve, then without a doubt. AEW has built these things up for 4-10 months. WWE throws together Hell in a Cell matches just because it's October. So with where we are in 2021, yes I have no problem with it. Sounds impressive ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 19th, 2021 11:27 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1202nd Post WongLee HALL OF FAMER Joined: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 Location: East Patchogue, New York USA Posts: 8988 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Holy shit, that was some main event last night. Watching it this morning and I was somewhat disgusted. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I don't like seeing women blade and doing death match garbage. This. The match was solid. Very bruising and not just spots strung together. However, I REALLY hate that hardcore shit. I'm a huge fan of sensible blading. Blood was not necessary for this match. Being suplexed off the top rope on to a pile of chairs is not necessary. Thumbtacks are not necessary. It didn't entertain me, it made me sad for these poor, delusional creatures in the ring. A hard hitting, snug match would have told their "story" just as well. ____________________ ...quite frankly, who the fuck is Ad Santel? - srossi. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Mar 19th, 2021 09:23 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1203rd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/54.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu54')">WongLeea> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/297.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu297')">martinia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Holy shit, that was some main event last night. Watching it this morning and I was somewhat disgusted. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I don't like seeing women blade and doing death match garbage. This. The match was solid. Very bruising and not just spots strung together. However, I REALLY hate that hardcore shit. I'm a huge fan of sensible blading. Blood was not necessary for this match. Being suplexed off the top rope on to a pile of chairs is not necessary. Thumbtacks are not necessary. It didn't entertain me, it made me sad for these poor, delusional creatures in the ring. A hard hitting, snug match would have told their "story" just as well. I could accept a chairshot from either of them, or a slam onto a folded up chair. But as you said, thumbtacks are just ridiculous. As was the superplex spot. But Britt Baker is a fucking champ, that I will say. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 05:35 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1204th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Meltzer has given Baker vs. Rosa 4.75 stars, making it his highest rated U.S. women’s match ever. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 06:01 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1205th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Meltzer has given Baker vs. Rosa 4.75 stars, making it his highest rated U.S. women’s match ever. A couple years back Charlotte and Becky Lynch I believe had an amazing match at Wrestlemania or something - not the one with Rousey in it, and maybe it wasn't even Lynch. Then there was some sort of hardcore style ladder match that Charlotte was in. Both of those matches were grueling and hard hitting, and technically strong. But ol' Herb is giving them stars for the blood and guts. Which is part of why we are dealing with so many blood and guts type of matches now - because the guy that people want to rate their matches see it gives them a higher rating. Here's an interesting question, has Adam Cole ever gotten 4.75 stars? If not, then his girl has the bragging rights in the house. As well she should, she put herself through hell in that match. And no doubt, if she told Tony Khan that she wasn't comfortable with that style, it wouldn't have gone down. I think she went to him wanting that match to be honest. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 06:08 pm PM Quote Reply 1206th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Meltzer has given Baker vs. Rosa 4.75 stars, making it his highest rated U.S. women’s match ever. A couple years back Charlotte and Becky Lynch I believe had an amazing match at Wrestlemania or something - not the one with Rousey in it, and maybe it wasn't even Lynch. Then there was some sort of hardcore style ladder match that Charlotte was in. Both of those matches were grueling and hard hitting, and technically strong. But ol' Herb is giving them stars for the blood and guts. Which is part of why we are dealing with so many blood and guts type of matches now - because the guy that people want to rate their matches see it gives them a higher rating. Here's an interesting question, has Adam Cole ever gotten 4.75 stars? If not, then his girl has the bragging rights in the house. As well she should, she put herself through hell in that match. And no doubt, if she told Tony Khan that she wasn't comfortable with that style, it wouldn't have gone down. I think she went to him wanting that match to be honest. The biggest difference between the in-ring product of AEW and every flavor of WWE is that in every match in AEW from the opener on Dark to the main event on Dynamite (squashes aside) the wrestlers are allowed to go out and have the best match they can. That rarely happens in WWE, and when it does, someone puts a stop to it. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 06:16 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1207th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Meltzer has given Baker vs. Rosa 4.75 stars, making it his highest rated U.S. women’s match ever. A couple years back Charlotte and Becky Lynch I believe had an amazing match at Wrestlemania or something - not the one with Rousey in it, and maybe it wasn't even Lynch. Then there was some sort of hardcore style ladder match that Charlotte was in. Both of those matches were grueling and hard hitting, and technically strong. But ol' Herb is giving them stars for the blood and guts. Which is part of why we are dealing with so many blood and guts type of matches now - because the guy that people want to rate their matches see it gives them a higher rating. Here's an interesting question, has Adam Cole ever gotten 4.75 stars? If not, then his girl has the bragging rights in the house. As well she should, she put herself through hell in that match. And no doubt, if she told Tony Khan that she wasn't comfortable with that style, it wouldn't have gone down. I think she went to him wanting that match to be honest. The biggest difference between the in-ring product of AEW and every flavor of WWE is that in every match in AEW from the opener on Dark to the main event on Dynamite (squashes aside) the wrestlers are allowed to go out and have the best match they can. That rarely happens in WWE, and when it does, someone puts a stop to it. Even in the squashes, some of these unsigned jobbers get in way too much offense. Certain guys just want to have good matches and don't think beyond that, and they'll give any opponent a ton of spots to shine and do some false finishes. I'm sure that's something else that Jim Cornette has a conniption over, but Ric Flair and many others from the old days used to do the same thing, and I didn't think it was always good then either. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 07:07 pm PM Quote Reply 1208th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Meltzer has given Baker vs. Rosa 4.75 stars, making it his highest rated U.S. women’s match ever. A couple years back Charlotte and Becky Lynch I believe had an amazing match at Wrestlemania or something - not the one with Rousey in it, and maybe it wasn't even Lynch. Then there was some sort of hardcore style ladder match that Charlotte was in. Both of those matches were grueling and hard hitting, and technically strong. But ol' Herb is giving them stars for the blood and guts. Which is part of why we are dealing with so many blood and guts type of matches now - because the guy that people want to rate their matches see it gives them a higher rating. Here's an interesting question, has Adam Cole ever gotten 4.75 stars? If not, then his girl has the bragging rights in the house. As well she should, she put herself through hell in that match. And no doubt, if she told Tony Khan that she wasn't comfortable with that style, it wouldn't have gone down. I think she went to him wanting that match to be honest. The biggest difference between the in-ring product of AEW and every flavor of WWE is that in every match in AEW from the opener on Dark to the main event on Dynamite (squashes aside) the wrestlers are allowed to go out and have the best match they can. That rarely happens in WWE, and when it does, someone puts a stop to it. Even in the squashes, some of these unsigned jobbers get in way too much offense. Certain guys just want to have good matches and don't think beyond that, and they'll give any opponent a ton of spots to shine and do some false finishes. I'm sure that's something else that Jim Cornette has a conniption over, but Ric Flair and many others from the old days used to do the same thing, and I didn't think it was always good then either. I don't know. It's like two different ways of thinking. Is someone a good wrestler or are they a good wrestler in kayfabe. When someone has a match on Dark, we all know what's going on, so I'd rather just watch two guys have a great match. They had some missteps when the roster was wafer thin at the start of Covid, but there aren't many examples on Dynamite of a jobber getting too much offence. Look at Dani Jordyn. She gets decent matches on Dark, but she got completely squashed on Dynamite. Randy Orton can win as many matches as he wants, but I'll never believe he's a good wrestler, although in kayfabe he clearly is. Anyway, that wasn't my point. AEW would never put on a match like WWE did this week. Asuka vs Shayna Baszler got less than two minutes. To me that's a bigger let down than the botched pyro. That's a main event match and they completely threw it away. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 07:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1209th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Meltzer has given Baker vs. Rosa 4.75 stars, making it his highest rated U.S. women’s match ever. A couple years back Charlotte and Becky Lynch I believe had an amazing match at Wrestlemania or something - not the one with Rousey in it, and maybe it wasn't even Lynch. Then there was some sort of hardcore style ladder match that Charlotte was in. Both of those matches were grueling and hard hitting, and technically strong. But ol' Herb is giving them stars for the blood and guts. Which is part of why we are dealing with so many blood and guts type of matches now - because the guy that people want to rate their matches see it gives them a higher rating. Here's an interesting question, has Adam Cole ever gotten 4.75 stars? If not, then his girl has the bragging rights in the house. As well she should, she put herself through hell in that match. And no doubt, if she told Tony Khan that she wasn't comfortable with that style, it wouldn't have gone down. I think she went to him wanting that match to be honest. The biggest difference between the in-ring product of AEW and every flavor of WWE is that in every match in AEW from the opener on Dark to the main event on Dynamite (squashes aside) the wrestlers are allowed to go out and have the best match they can. That rarely happens in WWE, and when it does, someone puts a stop to it. Even in the squashes, some of these unsigned jobbers get in way too much offense. Certain guys just want to have good matches and don't think beyond that, and they'll give any opponent a ton of spots to shine and do some false finishes. I'm sure that's something else that Jim Cornette has a conniption over, but Ric Flair and many others from the old days used to do the same thing, and I didn't think it was always good then either. I don't know. It's like two different ways of thinking. Is someone a good wrestler or are they a good wrestler in kayfabe. When someone has a match on Dark, we all know what's going on, so I'd rather just watch two guys have a great match. They had some missteps when the roster was wafer thin at the start of Covid, but there aren't many examples on Dynamite of a jobber getting too much offence. Look at Dani Jordyn. She gets decent matches on Dark, but she got completely squashed on Dynamite. Randy Orton can win as many matches as he wants, but I'll never believe he's a good wrestler, although in kayfabe he clearly is. Anyway, that wasn't my point. AEW would never put on a match like WWE did this week. Asuka vs Shayna Baszler got less than two minutes. To me that's a bigger let down than the botched pyro. That's a main event match and they completely threw it away. Well there’s no doubt about that. It’s a fundamental way of thinking in WWE for decades that getting beat quickly makes no difference and will be forgotten. The match is just a means to an end whether it’s good, bad, long, or short. And that’s not true. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 07:27 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1210th Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Meltzer has given Baker vs. Rosa 4.75 stars, making it his highest rated U.S. women’s match ever. Meltzer is either in bed with AEW deep as some have speculated or he is slipping in his older age. Even with all the junk, that was a 3 star match. Good and btter than most, but not by much. The blood and guts served as a smokescreen to make Meltzer think average was great. Last edited on Sat Mar 20th, 2021 07:30 pm by martini ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 09:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1211th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW Dark was pulled down from YouTube briefly and edited after a poor showing by Jack Evans in his match against 10. Evans botched several spots and his phoenix splash busted 10 open when his elbow caught him in the face. After the match, Brodie Lee’s son came out and fist bumped 10 as per the plan. AEW cleaned up the match and edited out the kid since they didn’t think it was appropriate to show him making physical contact with a bloody wrestler. Evans reportedly has major heat on him for taking liberties during the match to get himself over in an unprofessional way, for injuring 10, and just in general for having an awful match. He was not in his partner Angelico’s corner on Dynamite this week and is thought to be in a lot of trouble. Meltzer described the heat as “the type you don’t want with the most powerful people in AEW”. Evans being the veteran supposedly “took advantage” of 10 with way too much flippy offense even by AEW standards to try to “get his stuff in” because he wasn't thrilled he was losing to an opponent who isn’t exactly a top star. And to make matters worse, he screwed up most of those moves in his rush to squeeze them in. Evans joins Sammy Guevara and Joey Janela on the shitlist. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 09:23 pm PM Quote Reply 1212th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW Dark was pulled down from YouTube briefly and edited after a poor showing by Jack Evans in his match against 10. Evans botched several spots and his phoenix splash busted 10 open when his elbow caught him in the face. After the match, Brodie Lee’s son came out and fist bumped 10 as per the plan. AEW cleaned up the match and edited out the kid since they didn’t think it was appropriate to show him making physical contact with a bloody wrestler. Evans reportedly has major heat on him for taking liberties during the match to get himself over in an unprofessional way, for injuring 10, and just in general for having an awful match. He was not in his partner Angelico’s corner on Dynamite this week and is thought to be in a lot of trouble. Meltzer described the heat as “the type you don’t want with the most powerful people in AEW”. Evans joins Sammy Guevara and Joey Janela on the shitlist. Didn't Jack Evans use to be in the same club as Teddy Hart? Talented, but more trouble than he's worth. I was surprised that AEW signed him to be honest. He always looks like shit (his appearance, not his wrestling) and he has terrible indie-looking gear. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 09:36 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1213th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW Dark was pulled down from YouTube briefly and edited after a poor showing by Jack Evans in his match against 10. Evans botched several spots and his phoenix splash busted 10 open when his elbow caught him in the face. After the match, Brodie Lee’s son came out and fist bumped 10 as per the plan. AEW cleaned up the match and edited out the kid since they didn’t think it was appropriate to show him making physical contact with a bloody wrestler. Evans reportedly has major heat on him for taking liberties during the match to get himself over in an unprofessional way, for injuring 10, and just in general for having an awful match. He was not in his partner Angelico’s corner on Dynamite this week and is thought to be in a lot of trouble. Meltzer described the heat as “the type you don’t want with the most powerful people in AEW”. Evans joins Sammy Guevara and Joey Janela on the shitlist. Didn't Jack Evans use to be in the same club as Teddy Hart? Talented, but more trouble than he's worth. I was surprised that AEW signed him to be honest. He always looks like shit (his appearance, not his wrestling) and he has terrible indie-looking gear. Yes, Evans was part of the teenage Hart clan with Teddy, Nattie, and Davey Boy Jr., although he was the one not related by blood or marriage. But he grew up with them like a brother. There was also another one who no doubt would’ve become a wrestler, but he died of the rare flesh-eating disease very young. Bret Hart went on WWE TV in the ‘90s and did an interview about him dying. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 21st, 2021 01:14 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1214th Post One Fan Gang Joined: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 Location: Posts: 16317 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW Dark was pulled down from YouTube briefly and edited after a poor showing by Jack Evans in his match against 10. Evans botched several spots and his phoenix splash busted 10 open when his elbow caught him in the face. For WongLee: If any wrestler ought to be used not on Dark but Dynamite, it's Jack Evans. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Mar 22nd, 2021 08:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1215th Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: He also had a good run in ROH as part of Generation Next along with Roderick Strong, Austin Aries, Alex Shelly and Matt Steal ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 25th, 2021 02:14 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1216th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: Sydal vs Omega are having an epic match.... WHY ARE THEY HAVING OMEGA struggle against a jobber no need for this match to be an epic .... Last edited on Thu Mar 25th, 2021 02:15 am by krazykid18 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 25th, 2021 04:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1217th Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Sydal vs Omega are having an epic match.... WHY ARE THEY HAVING OMEGA struggle against a jobber no need for this match to be an epic .... You would've loved watching Arn or Flair work with say George South on TBS. ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 25th, 2021 01:27 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1218th Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: Prior to tonight's AEW Dynamite taping, AEW President Tony Khan announced the company will run their first ever house show on Friday 4/9 at Daily's Place in Jacksonville, Florida. If anyone is going to be in Tampa that weekend, Jacksonville is about three hours away driving. Tickets will go on sale at <A HREF="http://www.AEWTIX.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.AEWTIX.comA> on 3/29. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 25th, 2021 01:48 pm PM Quote Reply 1219th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: Prior to tonight's AEW Dynamite taping, AEW President Tony Khan announced the company will run their first ever house show on Friday 4/9 at Daily's Place in Jacksonville, Florida. If anyone is going to be in Tampa that weekend, Jacksonville is about three hours away driving. Tickets will go on sale at <A HREF="http://www.AEWTIX.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.AEWTIX.comA> on 3/29. If this doesn't end up being shown somewhere, these will likely be the first matches in AEW history not to be taped. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 25th, 2021 02:16 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1220th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: Prior to tonight's AEW Dynamite taping, AEW President Tony Khan announced the company will run their first ever house show on Friday 4/9 at Daily's Place in Jacksonville, Florida. If anyone is going to be in Tampa that weekend, Jacksonville is about three hours away driving. Tickets will go on sale at <A HREF="http://www.AEWTIX.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.AEWTIX.comA> on 3/29. If this doesn't end up being shown somewhere, these will likely be the first matches in AEW history not to be taped. That’s pretty wild to think of it that way, especially when you think back to all of the footage that wasn’t taped back in the old days. What was a house show business is now in many ways a product to produce content. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 25th, 2021 04:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1221st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: John Silver may have separated his shoulder early in his main event match against Darby Allin last night. No confirmation how serious it is yet, but Silver finished the match in a lot of pain. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Mar 25th, 2021 04:43 pm PM Quote Reply 1222nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: John Silver may have separated his shoulder early in his main event match against Darby Allin last night. No confirmation how serious it is yet, but Silver finished the match in a lot of pain. I wonder if those ridiculous arms of his were part of the problem. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 28th, 2021 09:15 pm PM Quote Reply 1223rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: From the Observer site: Tony Khan told Pitchfork about licensing “Where Is My Mind?” by The Pixies for Orange Cassidy’s new entrance music: “A few weeks ago, I played it for him, he said he loved it. I asked if he wanted to me to try to license it, he gave me his ‘thumbs up.’ I signed a multi-year agreement to use the song, and every use of the song in AEW will live in our content library forever in perpetuity.” I think it's great that Tony Khan is thinking about stuff like this. It's not quite the same watching something from WWE and they've had to change the music. It's happening with TV shows on streaming as well. All these little things add up and send people back down the piracy route. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 28th, 2021 09:31 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1224th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: From the Observer site: Tony Khan told Pitchfork about licensing “Where Is My Mind?” by The Pixies for Orange Cassidy’s new entrance music: “A few weeks ago, I played it for him, he said he loved it. I asked if he wanted to me to try to license it, he gave me his ‘thumbs up.’ I signed a multi-year agreement to use the song, and every use of the song in AEW will live in our content library forever in perpetuity.” I think it's great that Tony Khan is thinking about stuff like this. It's not quite the same watching something from WWE and they've had to change the music. It's happening with TV shows on streaming as well. All these little things add up and send people back down the piracy route. In fairness Tony Khan is young enough to have seen all the stuff you mention happen in the past so it doesn’t take much foresight at this point for him to realize the issue. He’s also rich enough to do something about it. Not that he’s buying “Enter Sandman”, which is cost-prohibitive even for him, but ECW used stuff illegally that they could’ve bought for $12 simply because they never could’ve imagined the future. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Mar 28th, 2021 09:37 pm PM Quote Reply 1225th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: From the Observer site: Tony Khan told Pitchfork about licensing “Where Is My Mind?” by The Pixies for Orange Cassidy’s new entrance music: “A few weeks ago, I played it for him, he said he loved it. I asked if he wanted to me to try to license it, he gave me his ‘thumbs up.’ I signed a multi-year agreement to use the song, and every use of the song in AEW will live in our content library forever in perpetuity.” I think it's great that Tony Khan is thinking about stuff like this. It's not quite the same watching something from WWE and they've had to change the music. It's happening with TV shows on streaming as well. All these little things add up and send people back down the piracy route. In fairness Tony Khan is young enough to have seen all the stuff you mention happen in the past so it doesn’t take much foresight at this point for him to realize the issue. He’s also rich enough to do something about it. Not that he’s buying “Enter Sandman”, which is cost-prohibitive even for him, but ECW used stuff illegally that they could’ve bought for $12 simply because they never could’ve imagined the future. Did WWE buy the rights to Cult of Personality or Bad Generation? I think I remember reading that they bought the complete rights to Cult of Personality. If you play it on Spotify, Vince gets 0.1c. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Mar 30th, 2021 09:02 am PM Quote Reply 1226th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Paul Wight is fine on commentary, better than I was expecting, but someone really needs to tell him to stop talking about wrestlers bumping and selling. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Mar 31st, 2021 02:32 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1227th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Paul Wight is fine on commentary, better than I was expecting, but someone really needs to tell him to stop talking about wrestlers bumping and selling. Has anything worth watching happened on Dark: Elevation since the 1st episode? I can’t watch 4 1/2 hours of AEW jobber matches a week, so you flag anything that’s good for the rest of us. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Mar 31st, 2021 08:44 am PM Quote Reply 1228th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Paul Wight is fine on commentary, better than I was expecting, but someone really needs to tell him to stop talking about wrestlers bumping and selling. Has anything worth watching happened on Dark: Elevation since the 1st episode? I can’t watch 4 1/2 hours of AEW jobber matches a week, so you flag anything that’s good for the rest of us. The set-up for Kenny Omega vs Matt Sydal happened on the first Elevation. They set up a match between Thunder Rosa and Diamante this week. The answer is no, basically. I have the show on in the background when I'm looking through old newspapers for wrestling results because I like having wrestling on when I'm doing that. I don't think I could sit on the couch and watch 2 hours of Dark. I don't these shows are made to be unmissable, you just get to see each wrestler doing their thing with enough time to do it. Dark is much better than Dark: Elevation because of the commentary. Taz and Excalibur (with regular appearances from Ricky Starks and Anthony Agogo) are genuinely hilarious. Tony is great, obviously, and Wight is better than I expected, as I said above. However, it's pretty obvious that Wight has someone in his ear (probably Excalibur) giving him trivia and the names of all the moves, because when he gets one wrong he corrects himself straight away. I don think he's doing some research and getting to know the roster, though. I understand the complaints about the show. Some of the matches are a bit rough, but a lot of these guys are unpolished, and these matches are a place for them to gain experience and improve. They need to be allowed to make some mistakes. For people who complain that the shows are too long, you don't need to watch it all. I assume that AEW have looked at the numbers, and the long show brings them more ad revenue. As said back when they started using this format, it reminds me of WCW Saturday Night. Two hours of mostly squash matches with a mid-card main event and little or no storyline progression. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 1st, 2021 09:01 am PM Quote Reply 1229th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: John Cena's new gameshow Wipeout debuts on TBS tonight, and there was banner ad for the show on Dynamite last night featuring Cena. With the obvious Turner connection, I wonder if AEW will try to make something of this. I bet this is too close for comfort for Vince. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 1st, 2021 06:09 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1230th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: With the Inner Circle coming back last night and brawling all over backstage with the Pinnacle, I think they’re setting up the War Games match probably for the May PPV, since they were already building towards one last year before the world shut down. With fans in attendance and War Games being a fun gimmick I wouldn’t be surprised to see them headline the next show with it. And Shawn Spears sucks and doesn’t belong in the Pinnacle so I’m hoping he’s the one who submits and they kick him out of the group afterwards. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 1st, 2021 07:39 pm PM Quote Reply 1231st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: With the Inner Circle coming back last night and brawling all over backstage with the Pinnacle, I think they’re setting up the War Games match probably for the May PPV, since they were already building towards one last year before the world shut down. With fans in attendance and War Games being a fun gimmick I wouldn’t be surprised to see them headline the next show with it. And Shawn Spears sucks and doesn’t belong in the Pinnacle so I’m hoping he’s the one who submits and they kick him out of the group afterwards. Spears is the luckiest man in pro wrestling. He was in exactly the right place at exactly the right time to get signed. This is AEW's third attempt at getting him over. His one good run was when he was the "Perfect 10" in AEW, but that was just because the fans liked chanting "10." Anyone could have made that work, and most would have made more out of it. Maybe he saved Cody's life back in the day, who knows? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 1st, 2021 07:50 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1232nd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: With the Inner Circle coming back last night and brawling all over backstage with the Pinnacle, I think they’re setting up the War Games match probably for the May PPV, since they were already building towards one last year before the world shut down. With fans in attendance and War Games being a fun gimmick I wouldn’t be surprised to see them headline the next show with it. And Shawn Spears sucks and doesn’t belong in the Pinnacle so I’m hoping he’s the one who submits and they kick him out of the group afterwards. Spears is the luckiest man in pro wrestling. He wakes up every morning with his cock in one of Peyton Royce's open holes. fixed ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 1st, 2021 08:10 pm PM Quote Reply 1233rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: With the Inner Circle coming back last night and brawling all over backstage with the Pinnacle, I think they’re setting up the War Games match probably for the May PPV, since they were already building towards one last year before the world shut down. With fans in attendance and War Games being a fun gimmick I wouldn’t be surprised to see them headline the next show with it. And Shawn Spears sucks and doesn’t belong in the Pinnacle so I’m hoping he’s the one who submits and they kick him out of the group afterwards. Spears is the luckiest man in pro wrestling. He wakes up every morning with his cock in one of Peyton Royce's open holes. fixed You need to take a cold shower today, dude. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 1st, 2021 08:51 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1234th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/51.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu51')">cookie32723a> wrote: With the Inner Circle coming back last night and brawling all over backstage with the Pinnacle, I think they’re setting up the War Games match probably for the May PPV, since they were already building towards one last year before the world shut down. With fans in attendance and War Games being a fun gimmick I wouldn’t be surprised to see them headline the next show with it. And Shawn Spears sucks and doesn’t belong in the Pinnacle so I’m hoping he’s the one who submits and they kick him out of the group afterwards. Spears is the luckiest man in pro wrestling. He wakes up every morning with his cock in one of Peyton Royce's open holes. fixed You need to take a cold shower today, dude. You tell me what's luckier - him being featured on AEW in a prominent spot, or him somehow getting Peyton Royce in bed and she decides to stick around for a few years as his wife? I say the latter. But with all of that said, I don't see why everybody hates the guy, he's not that bad. What was bad was Tully trying to get him over by bequeathing him the black glove last year that nobody can remember for some reason. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 1st, 2021 08:53 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1235th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: Debut a hot new group and 2 weeks later they get there asses handed to them ..would have liked the Pinnacle to at least look strong for a month... but it was a good backstage segment can't lie Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 1st, 2021 10:16 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1236th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Debut a hot new group and 2 weeks later they get there asses handed to them ..would have liked the Pinnacle to at least look strong for a month... but it was a good backstage segment can't lie The Inner Circle needed to strike as soon as they could. And they sold the beating they took, and the way they attacked was just awesome. Sure, I know what you are saying, but if we are to believe that wins and losses count - and AEW is trying to make us believe that - all the beatdown does is make everybody want to see them when they finally get inside the ring. I know people are saying War Games, but WWE owns the name. The concept can be used for sure but if they start this off with War Games, it's a total waste. War Games needs to be used to end a feud, not start one. Also, I saw some guy who's name I don't know get powerbombed from inside the ring outside to a non-gimmicked stage. And the dude bounced he hit so hard, looked like it was a really bad bump. How Tony Khan can allow shit like that to happen is beyond me, the guy wasn't protected at all and if he just came down at the wrong angle, it could have paralyzed him. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 2nd, 2021 06:26 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1237th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: The Inner Circle needed to strike as soon as they could. And they sold the beating they took, and the way they attacked was just awesome. Sure, I know what you are saying, but if we are to believe that wins and losses count - and AEW is trying to make us believe that - all the beatdown does is make everybody want to see them when they finally get inside the ring. I know people are saying War Games, but WWE owns the name. The concept can be used for sure but if they start this off with War Games, it's a total waste. War Games needs to be used to end a feud, not start one. The last time they promoted War Games they called it Blood and Guts or some such thing. After the trademark lapsed, MLW legally owned it for many years and promoted some War Games matches, and I think WWE had to buy it back from them. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Apr 7th, 2021 10:11 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1238th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Is it next week where NXT will move to Tuesdays? How many more viewers do you predict AEW will get after that happens? Their numbers have gone down to the 700,000's since Shaq and the last PPV, do you think they will gain enough to start averaging a million? I personally believe that the majority of the NXT and AEW viewers are one and the same and that there will not be much of a bump. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 08:02 am PM Quote Reply 1239th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I've only watched the first hour but this week's Dynamite is awful so far. Lots of botches, a terrible Chris Jericho promo that went on forever running down every member of the Pinnacle in detail (breaking the first rule of wrestling promos). Awful, awful commentary. JR has stopped caring and he's repeating the same lines every week. Tony just laughed all night. Bear Country have some pretty cool double team moves (they are, of course, ridiculous, but they look cool), but if the commentators just laugh at them, they will never get over. QT Marshall's gimmick is a hilarious irony. He's complaining about Cody keeping him down, when IRL he's getting a very undeserved push. He's OK in his role, but he gave another promo just running down his opponents (speaking a lot of shoot truth as well) which just made me think, yeah Cody IS pushing himself in his own company. Doesn't make me wan to see a Cody vs QT match. Anthony Agogo has showed some great personality as a face commentator on Dark, but this heel promo sounded like it was written by WWE. Sting having an interview with Tony and being interrupted before he can say anything happens EVERY FUCKING WEEK now. That was a good segment when they got to the point, though. Hopefully the main event is good. Last edited on Thu Apr 8th, 2021 08:02 am by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 04:30 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1240th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I've only watched the first hour but this week's Dynamite is awful so far. Lots of botches, a terrible Chris Jericho promo that went on forever running down every member of the Pinnacle in detail (breaking the first rule of wrestling promos). Awful, awful commentary. JR has stopped caring and he's repeating the same lines every week. Tony just laughed all night. Bear Country have some pretty cool double team moves (they are, of course, ridiculous, but they look cool), but if the commentators just laugh at them, they will never get over. QT Marshall's gimmick is a hilarious irony. He's complaining about Cody keeping him down, when IRL he's getting a very undeserved push. He's OK in his role, but he gave another promo just running down his opponents (speaking a lot of shoot truth as well) which just made me think, yeah Cody IS pushing himself in his own company. Doesn't make me wan to see a Cody vs QT match. Anthony Agogo has showed some great personality as a face commentator on Dark, but this heel promo sounded like it was written by WWE. Sting having an interview with Tony and being interrupted before he can say anything happens EVERY FUCKING WEEK now. That was a good segment when they got to the point, though. Hopefully the main event is good. A couple of things. JR stopped being passable a couple months ago. He no longer sounds prepared or motivated, in fact, he sounds half in the bag and almost bitter. When the ex-boxer guy threw a liver shot a couple weeks ago, JR called it a punch to the solar plexus. Then bland and dry Excalibur chimes in with the liver shot which you know is the result of Tony Khan just smacking his head on the control panel with the whole solar plexus punch. Another thing, the whole Lance Archer thing is getting ridiculous. They have Jake be his mouthpiece, which should be awesome. Yet much like Shawn Spears, nobody gives a shit. I've watched him in the ring and he looks solid. But again, nobody gives a shit. So now you have Sting trying to get him over to the live crowd? A guy with that size and ability should be able to get himself over even if he never speaks a word. Maybe AEW is getting into the same trouble as TNA had in the Orlando Impact Zone - their home base of fans either like a guy or don't like a guy and nothing you do can change their mind. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 07:57 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1241st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I've only watched the first hour but this week's Dynamite is awful so far. Lots of botches, a terrible Chris Jericho promo that went on forever running down every member of the Pinnacle in detail (breaking the first rule of wrestling promos). Awful, awful commentary. JR has stopped caring and he's repeating the same lines every week. Tony just laughed all night. Bear Country have some pretty cool double team moves (they are, of course, ridiculous, but they look cool), but if the commentators just laugh at them, they will never get over. QT Marshall's gimmick is a hilarious irony. He's complaining about Cody keeping him down, when IRL he's getting a very undeserved push. He's OK in his role, but he gave another promo just running down his opponents (speaking a lot of shoot truth as well) which just made me think, yeah Cody IS pushing himself in his own company. Doesn't make me wan to see a Cody vs QT match. Anthony Agogo has showed some great personality as a face commentator on Dark, but this heel promo sounded like it was written by WWE. Sting having an interview with Tony and being interrupted before he can say anything happens EVERY FUCKING WEEK now. That was a good segment when they got to the point, though. Hopefully the main event is good. A couple of things. JR stopped being passable a couple months ago. He no longer sounds prepared or motivated, in fact, he sounds half in the bag and almost bitter. When the ex-boxer guy threw a liver shot a couple weeks ago, JR called it a punch to the solar plexus. JR has sounded bitter for more than a decade, and he half mocks the high spot guys, which comprises 80% of the roster, and half mocks smart marks, which comprises 80% of the audience. He doesn't really fit in, and he's unnecessary at this point because Schiavone has so exceeded expectations and sounds like he's having more than he did since the days when he stood next to David Crockett that JR doesn't need to be there. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 09:55 pm PM Quote Reply 1242nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Ok. The second hour was much better. Or maybe I was just in a bad mood earlier... Really good main event, which was to be expected. Tay Conti is great example of what a mess the WWE Performance Center is. WWE brought her the US, trained her to wrestle, taught her English, did nothing with her and then released her. And paid her. Most wrestlers pay for their training. I know someone at AEW has been training her since they signed her, but she's really good now. Meanwhile, WWE are still waiting for Aaliyah to become a wrestler, and she was already a wrestler when WWE signed her. JR still sucks, though. Randomly listing wrestlers heights and weights like he's commentating with Art Donovan. Has there ever been a wrestling promotion where size mattered less than AEW? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 10:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1243rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Tay Conti is great example of what a mess the WWE Performance Center is. WWE brought her the US, trained her to wrestle, taught her English, did nothing with her and then released her. And paid her. Most wrestlers pay for their training. I know someone at AEW has been training her since they signed her, but she's really good now. Meanwhile, WWE are still waiting for Aaliyah to become a wrestler, and she was already a wrestler when WWE signed her. Tay Conti might be the hottest chick in wrestling, and has learned to wrestle decently enough. How WWE invested so much in her and let her get away I'll never understand. I guess her tits just aren't big enough for Vince. He has very specific tastes in women that haven't changed in 40 years, and it's obvious who his girls are. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 10:57 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1244th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Tay Conti is great example of what a mess the WWE Performance Center is. WWE brought her the US, trained her to wrestle, taught her English, did nothing with her and then released her. And paid her. Most wrestlers pay for their training. I know someone at AEW has been training her since they signed her, but she's really good now. Meanwhile, WWE are still waiting for Aaliyah to become a wrestler, and she was already a wrestler when WWE signed her. Tay Conti might be the hottest chick in wrestling, and has learned to wrestle decently enough. How WWE invested so much in her and let her get away I'll never understand. I guess her tits just aren't big enough for Vince. He has very specific tastes in women that haven't changed in 40 years, and it's obvious who his girls are. WOW if this is not a hyperbole, unless we have another Tay Conti we can't be talking about a female who looks like she just got chin surgery as the hottest chick in wrestling Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 9th, 2021 06:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1245th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Now that Impact has moved from the day before Dynamite to the day after, Tony Khan's "paid advertisements" on Impact seem to be over. It didn't air last night. However in the main event Impact finally got a win when Rich Swann, Willie Mack, and Eddie Edwards beat Kenny Omega and The Good Brothers (Swann pinned Karl Anderson). ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 9th, 2021 07:28 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1246th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Now that Impact has moved from the day before Dynamite to the day after, Tony Khan's "paid advertisements" on Impact seem to be over. It didn't air last night. However in the main event Impact finally got a win when Rich Swann, Willie Mack, and Eddie Edwards beat Kenny Omega and The Good Brothers (Swann pinned Karl Anderson). That's a stretch - unless The Good Brothers are now being paid by Tony Khan. Unless a contracted AEW guy takes a beating like Sammy Guevara was supposed to but balked at, Impact really is only gaining some eyes on the product. That is, if any of Impact's regular fan base has been living under a rock and had no idea that Kenny Omega is on TV every Wednesday night already. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 9th, 2021 07:59 pm PM Quote Reply 1247th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I don't think Omega being on Impact has been mentioned once on Dynamite or Dark. Impact only really got a mention on Dynamite when The Good Brothers had the Impact tag belts. This whole "Forbidden Door" stuff is so strange. You can see the same wrestlers on different shows, but no one is plugging anyone else's shows, with the exception of the Khan adverts. And where is Serena Deeb? Kamille won a match against her, but she'll have to find her first. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Apr 10th, 2021 04:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1248th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I don't think Omega being on Impact has been mentioned once on Dynamite or Dark. Impact only really got a mention on Dynamite when The Good Brothers had the Impact tag belts. This whole "Forbidden Door" stuff is so strange. You can see the same wrestlers on different shows, but no one is plugging anyone else's shows, with the exception of the Khan adverts. And where is Serena Deeb? Kamille won a match against her, but she'll have to find her first. The fact that we have a title unification match coming up between AEW and Impact and of you only watch AEW you’d never know about it is really bizarre. Whether you’re talking kayfabe or just doing business, this should be a big deal. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Apr 13th, 2021 07:39 am PM Quote Reply 1249th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Last night's Dark: Elevation was almost 2.5 hours long. It's fine for the way I watch it, but I can't recommend the show if you aren't up for a lot of wrestling with no angles. If you have 20 minutes, though, check out Thunder Rosa vs Diamante and the AEW TV debut of Konosuke Takeshita against Danny Limelight. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 15th, 2021 10:16 pm PM Quote Reply 1250th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Dynamite did 1,219,000 viewers last night. Their biggest number since the debut show. Was a great show as well. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 15th, 2021 10:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1251st Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Dynamite did 1,219,000 viewers last night. Their biggest number since the debut show. Was a great show as well. DAMN that is good numbers, can't lie USA and WWE might regret that decision to move NXT if NXT base doesn't grow to a mil also. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 16th, 2021 12:10 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1252nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Dynamite did 1,219,000 viewers last night. Their biggest number since the debut show. Was a great show as well. According to Meltzer, Vince always said he needed to keep NXT on Wednesday nights to hold AEW under 1 million and moving it would be a problem. Perception is reality and AEW is going to look big time if it can grow its rating unopposed, which makes WWE look less dominant. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 16th, 2021 05:59 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1253rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tonight Impact aired the Swann-Omega press conference with Khan, Callis, Jerry Lynn, and Omega on the dais representing AEW, They took more or less real (or realistic questions) from a few known sports journalists. One question was about the likelihood of this ending in a non-finish, and Khan basically said (truthfully), "When have you ever seen a non-finish in a big AEW match? This will definitely have a finish and we're unifying the titles." So they pretty much have to, and I have no idea how that will go since AEW has never even acknowledged this match on Dynamite. Omega also buried Swann, so once again we have a situation where I can't imagine any scenario where Swann wins, but if he gets pinned by Omega a second time, and after being buried on the mic repeatedly as not being in the same class, it just kills Impact so much. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 16th, 2021 01:27 pm PM Quote Reply 1254th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tonight Impact aired the Swann-Omega press conference with Khan, Callis, Jerry Lynn, and Omega on the dais representing AEW, They took more or less real (or realistic questions) from a few known sports journalists. One question was about the likelihood of this ending in a non-finish, and Khan basically said (truthfully), "When have you ever seen a non-finish in a big AEW match? This will definitely have a finish and we're unifying the titles." So they pretty much have to, and I have no idea how that will go since AEW has never even acknowledged this match on Dynamite. Omega also buried Swann, so once again we have a situation where I can't imagine any scenario where Swann wins, but if he gets pinned by Omega a second time, and after being buried on the mic repeatedly as not being in the same class, it just kills Impact so much. I think Swann wins with some significant help. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 16th, 2021 01:41 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1255th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tonight Impact aired the Swann-Omega press conference with Khan, Callis, Jerry Lynn, and Omega on the dais representing AEW, They took more or less real (or realistic questions) from a few known sports journalists. One question was about the likelihood of this ending in a non-finish, and Khan basically said (truthfully), "When have you ever seen a non-finish in a big AEW match? This will definitely have a finish and we're unifying the titles." So they pretty much have to, and I have no idea how that will go since AEW has never even acknowledged this match on Dynamite. Omega also buried Swann, so once again we have a situation where I can't imagine any scenario where Swann wins, but if he gets pinned by Omega a second time, and after being buried on the mic repeatedly as not being in the same class, it just kills Impact so much. I think Swann wins with some significant help. That’ll be quite the shock to fans who only watch AEW, who theoretically speaking wouldn’t even be aware that this match is happening. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 16th, 2021 01:43 pm PM Quote Reply 1256th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tonight Impact aired the Swann-Omega press conference with Khan, Callis, Jerry Lynn, and Omega on the dais representing AEW, They took more or less real (or realistic questions) from a few known sports journalists. One question was about the likelihood of this ending in a non-finish, and Khan basically said (truthfully), "When have you ever seen a non-finish in a big AEW match? This will definitely have a finish and we're unifying the titles." So they pretty much have to, and I have no idea how that will go since AEW has never even acknowledged this match on Dynamite. Omega also buried Swann, so once again we have a situation where I can't imagine any scenario where Swann wins, but if he gets pinned by Omega a second time, and after being buried on the mic repeatedly as not being in the same class, it just kills Impact so much. I think Swann wins with some significant help. That’ll be quite the shock to fans who only watch AEW, who theoretically speaking wouldn’t even be aware that this match is happening. Maybe Jon Moxley and/or Eddie Kingston interferes. That would make sense, at least. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Apr 20th, 2021 02:16 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1257th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Jim Ross will make his Impact debut on the Rebellion preview special that airs on AXS tomorrow night. It seems like they’re counter-programming against NXT with this to prevent them from having the night on their own. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 22nd, 2021 04:19 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1258th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: So last night was the "go home" episode of Dynamite before the title unification match with Impact. Again, not one mention was made of the match. I don't know how anyone can believe that Swann will win and show up on Dynamite next week as the unified champion when his name has never even been mentioned on AEW TV and theoretically if you're just an AEW fan you have no idea this match is happening. This is a rally bizarre throwback to pre-Internet times when angles were run only for certain markets and never acknowledged in the territory proper. I have no idea what the point of it is. On Tuesday night, Impact ran an excellent 1 hour special trying to make this seem like a huge deal. It looked back on past title unification matches and working relationships between companies. It featured largely working shoot comments, and Tommy Dreamer was excellent here. He basically shot on AEW in a very realistic way, knocking the relationship for being one-sided, saying that Impact announcers continually put over AEW but AEW announcers just mock Impact (saying he wants to punch Tony Schiavone in his "fat face"), saying that the only Impact wrestlers allowed on AEW TV are The Good Brothers and that's because they're Omega's friends, and basically questioning if Impact is getting anything out of this "relationship". If it wasn't a straight shoot, it was as close as you can get while still promoting the match. Dreamer also provided historical context with a lot of talk about WWWF vs. NWA title matches, the AWA forming because of Gagne's title claim dispute, and the ECW-WWF relationship. He was on fire and really they could've done the entire show with just him. From AEW, only Jim Ross and Kenny Omega himself were interviewed. From Impact, they also included comments from Scott D'Amore, Eric Young, Sami Callihan, and Eddie Edwards, in addition to Swann. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 22nd, 2021 04:53 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1259th Post kargol Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Brum, United Kingdom Posts: 5565 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: So last night was the "go home" episode of Dynamite before the title unification match with Impact. Again, not one mention was made of the match. I don't know how anyone can believe that Swann will win and show up on Dynamite next week as the unified champion when his name has never even been mentioned on AEW TV and theoretically if you're just an AEW fan you have no idea this match is happening. That would be quite a fun storyline, with Impact people showing up and gloating. Is there a Money In The Bank thing floating around anywhere? Is there anyone who has an open challenge to a champion whenever they like? That would be a way of getting around everything, e.g. Omega winning the TNA title but losing it (and not the AEW title) to someone on the same night. ____________________ superfunkymean Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 22nd, 2021 05:03 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1260th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/46.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu46')">kargola> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: So last night was the "go home" episode of Dynamite before the title unification match with Impact. Again, not one mention was made of the match. I don't know how anyone can believe that Swann will win and show up on Dynamite next week as the unified champion when his name has never even been mentioned on AEW TV and theoretically if you're just an AEW fan you have no idea this match is happening. That would be quite a fun storyline, with Impact people showing up and gloating. Is there a Money In The Bank thing floating around anywhere? Is there anyone who has an open challenge to a champion whenever they like? That would be a way of getting around everything, e.g. Omega winning the TNA title but losing it (and not the AEW title) to someone on the same night. No. And they have backed themselves into a corner because Tony Khan has sworn up and down repeatedly that there will be no screwjob, no swerve, no non-finish, and these titles WILL be unified. Khan also said both guys have committed to defending on both shows going forward if they win, and Impact and AEW will get equal access to the champion. So now they have to keep them together for at least a little while. All signs point to Omega defending both titles on both shows, but it's so obvious that he's winning and Swann has been so dismissed during this whole thing that I can't imagine he will really lose. Impact will look like idiots to allow that at this point. Of course, if Swann shows up on Dynamite next week as a double-champion with zero build and zero credibility as a main eventer, a huge segment of AEW's fanbase is going to be like "WTF is this shit?!" People think AEW fans are smarter than they are. Most had no idea who Ethan Page was even though The North were a fantastic tag team for 2 years in Impact. Most AEW fans will only know Swann as a WWE Cruiserweight from 205 Live years ago. Either Impact is going to look second rate if Omega beats their champion AGAIN after everyone made fun of him for months, or AEW will look second rate by having Swann show up as their champion after last being on the national stage ages ago losing to Enzo Amore and Kalisto. I can't see how this match can make anyone happy. And it's not just because no one can ever job, they could've built this so that a job wouldn't hurt anyone too badly, but that ship has sailed. Swann needed to pin Omega in that 6-man 2 months ago on PPV, but he lost there too. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 22nd, 2021 05:44 pm PM Quote Reply 1261st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: When they were all in the trailer, Don Callis did say that Omega is the AEW World Champion, the AAA Mega Champion and o Saturday he will be the Impact World Champion, but they didn't give any hint of how a fan could watch the match. Maybe there are enough fans on the internet for this to be enough of a sell. To be honest, I don't think it's awful what they are doing. Obviously the wrestling nerd in all of us would love for this angle to be playing out over both shows, but it does make sense if you only watch one show. Impact have been given the champion from another company to run an angle with, which must be a positive for them. You can always want more from this angle, but I don't think any of what they have done is bad. I have no personal stake in Impact, so if the company looks bad for a while, but the TV is still enjoyable, I really don't care. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 22nd, 2021 05:47 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1262nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: When they were all in the trailer, Don Callis did say that Omega is the AEW World Champion, the AAA Mega Champion and o Saturday he will be the Impact World Champion, but they didn't give any hint of how a fan could watch the match. Maybe there are enough fans on the internet for this to be enough of a sell. I really hope you misquoted him because the PPV was moved to Sunday. It was originally Saturday and 3 weeks ago they changed it. If he said Saturday given he's the Executive VP of Impact, big whoops. If you won't plug the PPV details, at least get the day right. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 22nd, 2021 06:58 pm PM Quote Reply 1263rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: When they were all in the trailer, Don Callis did say that Omega is the AEW World Champion, the AAA Mega Champion and o Saturday he will be the Impact World Champion, but they didn't give any hint of how a fan could watch the match. Maybe there are enough fans on the internet for this to be enough of a sell. I really hope you misquoted him because the PPV was moved to Sunday. It was originally Saturday and 3 weeks ago they changed it. If he said Saturday given he's the Executive VP of Impact, big whoops. If you won't plug the PPV details, at least get the day right. He got it right, I got it wrong. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 22nd, 2021 08:50 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1264th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: When they were all in the trailer, Don Callis did say that Omega is the AEW World Champion, the AAA Mega Champion and o Saturday he will be the Impact World Champion, but they didn't give any hint of how a fan could watch the match. Maybe there are enough fans on the internet for this to be enough of a sell. I really hope you misquoted him because the PPV was moved to Sunday. It was originally Saturday and 3 weeks ago they changed it. If he said Saturday given he's the Executive VP of Impact, big whoops. If you won't plug the PPV details, at least get the day right. He got it right, I got it wrong. Well better you than him. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Apr 26th, 2021 01:03 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1265th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW head referee Aubrey Edwards will be one of the two officials to referee the Omega vs. Swann main event tonight. I haven't heard who the Impact official will be. Since Edwards is a woman, I'd be surprised if they bump her as part of the finish though, so that's yet another thing pointing to an Omega victory. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Apr 26th, 2021 02:59 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1266th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW head referee Aubrey Edwards will be one of the two officials to referee the Omega vs. Swann main event tonight. I haven't heard who the Impact official will be. Since Edwards is a woman, I'd be surprised if they bump her as part of the finish though, so that's yet another thing pointing to an Omega victory. Impact tried to appoint Brian Hebner as the only referee for the match, but when Tony Khan sarcastically said he would never screw anyone and asked him what his last night was, Scott D’Amore interrupted and agreed to have two refs. Slightly funny. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Apr 26th, 2021 04:27 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1267th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: It’s time. Mauro Ranallo joins Matt Striker and D-Lo Brown at the announce desk. Aubrey Edwards and Brian Hebner both in the ring as the refs. Kenny Omega comes out first with the AEW title, accompanied by Don Callis and The Good Brothers. Rich Swann comes out with both the Impact and TNA belts, with Eddie Edwards and Willie Mack as his seconds. Championship style ring introductions by David Penzer. Callis interrupts and gives a big introduction for Omega. Penzer introduces Swann. Tony Khan, Tony Schiavone, and Jerry Lynn are sitting ringside. The referees hold all the belts up. Definitely a big match feel. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Apr 26th, 2021 04:53 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1268th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Kenny Omega wins clean with the V trigger and one-winged angel. There was a ref bump early of Hebner so that Edwards could come in and stop Omega from using a chair to prove her integrity. Early on the match was sloppy with 2 big blown spots that could’ve ended badly. It got better as it went along, but only lasted 20 minutes so wasn’t that epic. The 6-man with Omega and The Good Brothers vs. Swann, Moose, and Sabin was much better than this one, but it was OK. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Apr 26th, 2021 06:43 pm PM Quote Reply 1269th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Given the limitations of the venue, that main event was excellent. I don't see how it hurts Impact to be presenting this match. Swann needs to work on his conditioning though. Omega was doing an epic carry job for the last five minutes. Either that, or Swann is fantastic at selling being exhausted. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Apr 26th, 2021 07:35 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1270th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Given the limitations of the venue, that main event was excellent. I don't see how it hurts Impact to be presenting this match. Swann needs to work on his conditioning though. Omega was doing an epic carry job for the last five minutes. Either that, or Swann is fantastic at selling being exhausted. Honestly I thought Swann was off the whole match. He botched a couple of spots early that could've seriously injured Omega or himself, then blew up late. And the whole thing was 20 minutes, not some epic 45-60 minute Tokyo Dome style match that Omega has done in the past. Swann did nothing IMO to disprove that he is OK but not in Omega's class, both in terms of kayfabe and real life. I think Swann may have bought into the magnitude of the match a bit too much and got nervous, because I've seen him much better than last night. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Apr 27th, 2021 03:19 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1271st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Announced for tomorrow’s Dark, Marty “The Moth” Martinez of Lucha Underground fame makes his debut against Brian Cage. Not sure why I’m so excited about that, but I really liked that guy even if he will be used as a jobber here. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Apr 27th, 2021 11:20 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1272nd Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: So aew is paying attention to the new deal turner has with nhl...which can move aew from wednesday to another day Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Apr 28th, 2021 05:23 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1273rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Kenny Omega will be on Impact tomorrow with an in-ring celebration of his unification of the World titles. This will likely also set up his next Impact title defense, which will be at Under Seige on Fite TV on May 15. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 29th, 2021 03:52 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1274th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: The Forbidden Door opens again. AEW will bring in NJPW legend Yuji Nagata in his first match in America in ages to face Moxley for the IWGP U.S. title May 12 on Dynamite. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 29th, 2021 06:32 am PM Quote Reply 1275th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: The Forbidden Door opens again. AEW will bring in NJPW legend Yuji Nagata in his first match in America in ages to face Moxley for the IWGP U.S. title May 12 on Dynamite. I hope this eventually leads to someone from the top drawer of New Japan coming in. I'm sure Nagata can still work a decent match, but he is 53 years old. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 29th, 2021 02:50 pm PM Quote Reply 1276th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Given the limitations of the venue, that main event was excellent. I don't see how it hurts Impact to be presenting this match. Swann needs to work on his conditioning though. Omega was doing an epic carry job for the last five minutes. Either that, or Swann is fantastic at selling being exhausted. Honestly I thought Swann was off the whole match. He botched a couple of spots early that could've seriously injured Omega or himself, then blew up late. And the whole thing was 20 minutes, not some epic 45-60 minute Tokyo Dome style match that Omega has done in the past. Swann did nothing IMO to disprove that he is OK but not in Omega's class, both in terms of kayfabe and real life. I think Swann may have bought into the magnitude of the match a bit too much and got nervous, because I've seen him much better than last night. Rebellion did nine times the number of buys as Bound For Glory (the last Impact PPV not headlined by Kenny Omega) according to Meltzer. So that's what Impact are getting out of this deal. After that, it's up to Impact to put on a good product to keep people watching in between Omega matches. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Apr 29th, 2021 03:12 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1277th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Given the limitations of the venue, that main event was excellent. I don't see how it hurts Impact to be presenting this match. Swann needs to work on his conditioning though. Omega was doing an epic carry job for the last five minutes. Either that, or Swann is fantastic at selling being exhausted. Honestly I thought Swann was off the whole match. He botched a couple of spots early that could've seriously injured Omega or himself, then blew up late. And the whole thing was 20 minutes, not some epic 45-60 minute Tokyo Dome style match that Omega has done in the past. Swann did nothing IMO to disprove that he is OK but not in Omega's class, both in terms of kayfabe and real life. I think Swann may have bought into the magnitude of the match a bit too much and got nervous, because I've seen him much better than last night. Rebellion did nine times the number of buys as Bound For Glory (the last Impact PPV not headlined by Kenny Omega) according to Meltzer. So that's what Impact are getting out of this deal. After that, it's up to Impact to put on a good product to keep people watching in between Omega matches. I'm not surprised. But if AEW had plugged the PPV just for 30 seconds every week for a month, they would've done 30 times higher. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 30th, 2021 07:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1278th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Kenny Omega will be on Impact tomorrow with an in-ring celebration of his unification of the World titles. This will likely also set up his next Impact title defense, which will be at Under Seige on Fite TV on May 15. The story of Impact tonight was that Omega no-showed because Impact was beneath him. D'Amore reminded Callis that Omega was contractually obligated to appear every week on Impact now that he's champion and if he doesn't show up by the end of the show then he's stripped of the Impact title and Tony Khan said he would even suspend him from AEW. In the meantime, Impact was holding qualifying matches for a 6-way at the next PPV with the winner becoming #1 contender, but if Omega didn't show then it would be for the vacant title. Callis calls Omega and tells him to get on the jet from Jacksonville to Orlando. The final qualifying match was Eddie Edwards vs. Sami Callihan. Omega and The Good Brothers run in with minutes to spare in the show. They lay out both Edwards and Callihan and ruin the match. FinJuice then try to make the save and we have an AEW-Impact-NJPW brawl. In the end AEW stands supreme again and everyone else is down. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Apr 30th, 2021 10:24 am PM Quote Reply 1279th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: In the end AEW stands supreme again and everyone else is down. You're getting a bit too mad about this. Someone somewhere has made the decision that AEW isn't going to promote this cross-over as much as they could or should, but it's not affecting the stories told by either shows. Only the people that watch everything might have a gripe with this. Both shows are good right now, and that's enough for me. Impact have never promoted New Japan Strong, where you can see TJP and the Impact World Tag Team Champions. Or MLW, where you can also see TJP. When TJP was Impact X-Division champion, they didn't do anything with that. The AAA Mega and Tag Team Champions are AEW talent, and they didn't promote the last AAA PPV either. That's just the way it's going to be. They are different TV shows with different paymasters. Tie it in too deep, like us wrestling nerds would love to see, and the logistical problems and egos would start to get in the way. I'm with you all the way that it would be cool if it was all connected, and this might just be the early baby steps towards that, but right now, there's loads of good wrestling on TV, and I can ignore WWE. It's a good time to be a wrestling fan. Also, the Good Brothers are Impact wrestlers. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat May 1st, 2021 05:57 pm PM Quote Reply 1280th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Rumors are that AEW are close to signing Tessa Blanchard and Daga. Last edited on Sat May 1st, 2021 05:58 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon May 3rd, 2021 10:59 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1281st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Omega and Andrade are running an angle in AAA right now and Andrade appears to be the next challenger for the Mega title. I'd be surprised if they didn't bring him into AEW to do some cross-promotion, if not just sign him outright. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue May 4th, 2021 06:00 pm PM Quote Reply 1282nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Rumors are that AEW are close to signing Tessa Blanchard and Daga. pwinsider are reporting that this is fake news. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue May 4th, 2021 06:39 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1283rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Rumors are that AEW are close to signing Tessa Blanchard and Daga. pwinsider are reporting that this is fake news. They should bring in Tessa to help their women's division. I see no need for Daga other than she seems to wear the pants in that family and he follows her around. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue May 4th, 2021 07:06 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1284th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Couldn't they come up with a better name for War Games than Blood N Guts? ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed May 5th, 2021 12:57 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1285th Post Ed Lock Joined: Fri Jan 4th, 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 232 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Couldn't they come up with a better name for War Games than Blood N Guts? It's in response to a Vince McMahon comment that "we're not gonna do blood and guts and things of that nature, such as being done on perhaps a new potential competitor." Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 6th, 2021 07:09 am PM Quote Reply 1286th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I thought AEW knew that one of the secrets of wrestling is that it doesn't matter how screwy the match is, you need to end it in the middle of the ring. I don't know about anyone else, but the ending of that main event felt really flat, especially for a match that we've been waiting over a year for. I've never liked the "submit or I do something heinous" finish. It just screams WWE booking. Without commentary, the crowd didn't even realise what was happening, so you didn't even get a real reaction to Jericho being thrown off the cage. It would have come off much better if Jericho had told his guys to keep fighting and sacrificed himself. It was also really obvious that Jericho had landed on a big soft pillow, so they should have worked out their camera angles better for that. The match was awesome before the finish, though. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 6th, 2021 03:22 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1287th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I thought AEW knew that one of the secrets of wrestling is that it doesn't matter how screwy the match is, you need to end it in the middle of the ring. I don't know about anyone else, but the ending of that main event felt really flat, especially for a match that we've been waiting over a year for. I've never liked the "submit or I do something heinous" finish. It just screams WWE booking. Without commentary, the crowd didn't even realise what was happening, so you didn't even get a real reaction to Jericho being thrown off the cage. It would have come off much better if Jericho had told his guys to keep fighting and sacrificed himself. It was also really obvious that Jericho had landed on a big soft pillow, so they should have worked out their camera angles better for that. The match was awesome before the finish, though. I agree. Decent bloody match but awful finish. It's been done before and the fall itself was just so fake-looking. Jericho took a back bump into boxes that were staged to look like stainless steel diamond plate but obviously wasn't. I hated it. That's the second good, violent match they ruined with an underwhelming finish. Less is more. Look at the Magnum T.A.-Tully Blanchard finish. Just give us something like that. You're never going to top the Mick Foley fall, and trying to do so would be beyond reckless anyway, so stop trying to do it. I also thought the pace of the show came to a crashing halt right before the main event. Maybe they were still trying to set up the cage, but it looked like they were done. Either way, Omega's promo went on forever and was terrible, and Orange Cassidy added nothing. I thought that segment was WWE at its worst and AEW has to avoid ever doing anything like that again. I understand (mostly) unscripted promos can be hit or miss, and were during the '70s and '80s too, but they can't last that long with no point. That's exactly what WWE does, even if there's are fully scripted. Omega is average on the mic in small doses, but if he's going to have a promo segment lasting more than 3 minutes, Don Callis is desperately needed to help him. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 6th, 2021 04:06 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1288th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I thought AEW knew that one of the secrets of wrestling is that it doesn't matter how screwy the match is, you need to end it in the middle of the ring. I don't know about anyone else, but the ending of that main event felt really flat, especially for a match that we've been waiting over a year for. I've never liked the "submit or I do something heinous" finish. It just screams WWE booking. Without commentary, the crowd didn't even realise what was happening, so you didn't even get a real reaction to Jericho being thrown off the cage. It would have come off much better if Jericho had told his guys to keep fighting and sacrificed himself. It was also really obvious that Jericho had landed on a big soft pillow, so they should have worked out their camera angles better for that. The match was awesome before the finish, though. I agree. Decent bloody match but awful finish. It's been done before and the fall itself was just so fake-looking. Jericho took a back bump into boxes that were staged to look like stainless steel diamond plate but obviously wasn't. I hated it. That's the second good, violent match they ruined with an underwhelming finish. Less is more. Look at the Magnum T.A.-Tully Blanchard finish. Just give us something like that. You're never going to top the Mick Foley fall, and trying to do so would be beyond reckless anyway, so stop trying to do it. I also thought the pace of the show came to a crashing halt right before the main event. Maybe they were still trying to set up the cage, but it looked like they were done. Either way, Omega's promo went on forever and was terrible, and Orange Cassidy added nothing. I thought that segment was WWE at its worst and AEW has to avoid ever doing anything like that again. I understand (mostly) unscripted promos can be hit or miss, and were during the '70s and '80s too, but they can't last that long with no point. That's exactly what WWE does, even if there's are fully scripted. Omega is average on the mic in small doses, but if he's going to have a promo segment lasting more than 3 minutes, Don Callis is desperately needed to help him. Agree with both of you, the match was great until they climbed the cage. Like when Ortiz pulled out a fork, that’s some brutal shit if you sell it right, no need in throwing a 50 year old guy off a cage into a pile of boxes. I also felt like the match had a bit of Royal rumbleness to it, with two guys doing spots and everyone else laying around a lot of the time. Small complaint I know, I just think it would’ve been better if the guys kept fighting in the background during the major high spots. ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 6th, 2021 06:01 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1289th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Bully Ray blasted AEW for the way the Impact World title was carried last night on Dynamite. Omega wore the AEW belt around his waist but his lackey Michael Nakazawa carried the Impact, TNA, and AAA belts. Bully Ray said "perception is reality" and was upset that the Impact title was treated as not being valuable enough for Omega himself to carry. It's odd he would pick on this one thing considering how Impact has been treated in general for months now. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 6th, 2021 06:03 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1290th Post wittman2 Joined: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 Location: Posts: 938 Status: Offline Mana: How on earth did Pac and Orange Cassidy become number one contenders, despite neither having won a match lately? ____________________ "Poor Zack Gibson. He was the most hated heel in all of WWE a few years ago. Now he's Joe Gacy's goon and without the beard he somehow looks like a baby owl and Baron Von Raschke at the same time." - Kriss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 6th, 2021 06:11 pm PM Quote Reply 1291st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Bully Ray blasted AEW for the way the Impact World title was carried last night on Dynamite. Omega wore the AEW belt around his waist but his lackey Michael Nakazawa carried the Impact, TNA, and AAA belts. Bully Ray said "perception is reality" and was upset that the Impact title was treated as not being valuable enough for Omega himself to carry. It's odd he would pick on this one thing considering how Impact has been treated in general for months now. Omega is a heel. What's the problem with his lackey carrying some of his belts? Is Omega supposed to walk around like Ultimo Dragon with the J-Crown 24/7? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 6th, 2021 06:19 pm PM Quote Reply 1292nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/155.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu155')">wittman2a> wrote: How on earth did Pac and Orange Cassidy become number one contenders, despite neither having won a match lately? Did you watch the two shows before this week's? ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 6th, 2021 08:02 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1293rd Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: pwinsider.com Last night's AEW Blood and Guts match last night was live, but the remainder of the show was pre-taped. AEW chose to pre-tape the remainder of the show due to the logistics of setting up the two cages so it didn't eat into TV time. AEW offered refunds to fans who came believing they were getting a complete live broadcast ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 6th, 2021 10:08 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1294th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I thought AEW knew that one of the secrets of wrestling is that it doesn't matter how screwy the match is, you need to end it in the middle of the ring. I don't know about anyone else, but the ending of that main event felt really flat, especially for a match that we've been waiting over a year for. I've never liked the "submit or I do something heinous" finish. It just screams WWE booking. Without commentary, the crowd didn't even realise what was happening, so you didn't even get a real reaction to Jericho being thrown off the cage. It would have come off much better if Jericho had told his guys to keep fighting and sacrificed himself. It was also really obvious that Jericho had landed on a big soft pillow, so they should have worked out their camera angles better for that. The match was awesome before the finish, though. My homie finally gave AEW some real criticism i guess the Khan money dried up:) .... i know it hurt you to write that but i am proud of you The ending hurt the match but also like you pointed out it should have been in the middle of the ring and Jericho landing on cardboard really hurt...i think what would have been better if they wanted that ending was Tully passing handcuffs out and they handcuff the 4 members of the Inner Circle leaving Jericho to fend for himself and the Pinnacle beating the living daylights out of Jericho and then when the set up a MJF to hit Jericho with a massive chair headshot...Sammy handcuffed pleads and gives up ...and MJF still goes thru with it.... This can then lead to the Sammy vs MJF blood fued...which could lead to Jericho turning on Sammy for Sammy being weak and Jericho always knew in his heart Sammy never had what it took to be a star that's why he wanted MJF in the Inner Circle in the first place... that's how i would have booked it the actual match...but hopefully that's what they go thru with the second part... but still a great match also we can let the the 8 guys laying down in the ring just chilling part slide because it is still TV and they need to capture the storyline part for the audience with MJF vs Jericho on top of the cage. Last edited on Thu May 6th, 2021 10:09 pm by krazykid18 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri May 7th, 2021 03:03 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1295th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Last night’s Dynamite drew 1.1 million viewers and for the 1st time ever was the #1 show in all of cable television in the 18-49 demo. TNT sent out a press release and are reportedly ecstatic with AEW’s numbers since NXT moved. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri May 7th, 2021 04:07 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1296th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I thought AEW knew that one of the secrets of wrestling is that it doesn't matter how screwy the match is, you need to end it in the middle of the ring. I don't know about anyone else, but the ending of that main event felt really flat, especially for a match that we've been waiting over a year for. I've never liked the "submit or I do something heinous" finish. It just screams WWE booking. Without commentary, the crowd didn't even realise what was happening, so you didn't even get a real reaction to Jericho being thrown off the cage. It would have come off much better if Jericho had told his guys to keep fighting and sacrificed himself. It was also really obvious that Jericho had landed on a big soft pillow, so they should have worked out their camera angles better for that. The match was awesome before the finish, though. My homie finally gave AEW some real criticism i guess the Khan money dried up:) .... i know it hurt you to write that but i am proud of you The ending hurt the match but also like you pointed out it should have been in the middle of the ring and Jericho landing on cardboard really hurt...i think what would have been better if they wanted that ending was Tully passing handcuffs out and they handcuff the 4 members of the Inner Circle leaving Jericho to fend for himself and the Pinnacle beating the living daylights out of Jericho and then when the set up a MJF to hit Jericho with a massive chair headshot...Sammy handcuffed pleads and gives up ...and MJF still goes thru with it.... This can then lead to the Sammy vs MJF blood fued...which could lead to Jericho turning on Sammy for Sammy being weak and Jericho always knew in his heart Sammy never had what it took to be a star that's why he wanted MJF in the Inner Circle in the first place... that's how i would have booked it the actual match...but hopefully that's what they go thru with the second part... but still a great match also we can let the the 8 guys laying down in the ring just chilling part slide because it is still TV and they need to capture the storyline part for the audience with MJF vs Jericho on top of the cage. Why does this storyline need swerves and turns? Can’t it just be two groups that hate each other? Not every angle involving multiple people on both sides needs a heel or face turn. The future would be MJF and Sammy. Don’t have Sammy submit - have an older guy submit. Would anybody think any less of Jake Hager if he submitted? He’s kicking the shit out of people in Bellator - if he submits to keep Jericho from getting hurt, it’s basically his JOB. His first night in was to be Jericho’s hit man and backup. So he could submit and get away with it by saying he gets paid to protect Chris. Also, you really don’t want MJF in a blood feud yet. He is worth too much down the road. Stop going all Vince Russo here - let this burn slowly and enjoy the ride. In 1979, Ole Anderson set up his heel turn on Dusty Rhodes very subtly. But the seeds were planted. Then in 1980, he just destroyed the Dream at the Omni in a cage. It drew money for a YEAR. Don’t start the Sammy/MJF program now - plant the seeds. As far as what happened in the match? If Jericho is going to get destroyed, it needs to be in the ring, as you and everyone else said. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun May 9th, 2021 04:42 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1297th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Last night on NJPW Strong, they set up the next Dynamite with Jon Moxley teaming with Chris Dickerson to beat Yuji Nagata and Ren Narita. After the match there was a pull-apart brawl between Moxley and Nagata. I wish AEW had plugged that at all but they didn’t bother. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon May 10th, 2021 04:23 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1298th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW will begin taking Dynamite on the road again starting in July, with tickets now on sale. I'm really surprised that WWE let AEW get the jump on them on this. I feel like 10 years ago WWE would've made sure they were already doing shows in front of crowds. Plenty of states are open now. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue May 11th, 2021 09:15 am PM Quote Reply 1299th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Some great promos on the YouTube side of AEW so far this week. Matt Jackson and Christopher Daniels had a couple of great promos on BTE hyping their match on tomorrow night, with Matt giving a proverbial middle finger to people who complain about storyline progression that doesn't happen on Dynamite (which popped me, at least). Elevation (they seem to have dropped the "Dark" from the show name) had a great Eddie Kingston promo. I know, that's like saying water is wet, but it's worth watching. Thunder Rosa was interviewed. She talked about the NWA title and Serena Deeb, who is away "taking care of other business." Not sure if they were referencing her injury or the fact that she has a title match with Kamille in NWA to get through first. Maybe both. There was no explicit mention of any NWA programming. I know we'd all love "The Forbidden Door" to swing open, but I think we have to accept now that we're going to get wrestlers and titles crossing between origanisations, but they aren't going to be hyping each other's shows. I can understand from this, though. With taping schedules and live shows, you maybe don't want to be trying to tie different shows together too much. The crossover stuff is for the hardcore fans who watch everything, and we don't need them to tell us in detail what's going on. The TV companies will have something to say about this as well, I doubt they want other networks heavily promoted. It's a bit like the MCU (and I know srossi wanted them to connect their franchises together more, but hey...). The movies and the ABS shows and the Netflix shows and the Hulu shows and the Freeform shows and the Disney+ shows are all part of the same world, and if you are a superfan you can spot all the connections, but it's not so connected that you HAVE to watch everything, or so connected that it becomes a huge hassle to keep the stories straight. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue May 11th, 2021 04:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1300th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: It's a bit like the MCU (and I know srossi wanted them to connect their franchises together more, but hey...). The movies and the ABS shows and the Netflix shows and the Hulu shows and the Freeform shows and the Disney+ shows are all part of the same world, and if you are a superfan you can spot all the connections, but it's not so connected that you HAVE to watch everything, or so connected that it becomes a huge hassle to keep the stories straight. 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Posted: Wed May 19th, 2021 06:43 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1301st Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: Warner Media just issued the following: AEW Franchise Continues Domination and Expands to TBS in 2022 “AEW: Rampage” Premieres August 13th on TNT, Joining Wrestling’s #1 Show “AEW: Dynamite” TNT to Showcase Four New Annual Wrestling Specials LOS ANGELES (May 19, 2021) – The All Elite Wrestling (AEW) franchise will grow its footprint with a move of “AEW: Dynamite” to TBS in January 2022. Until then, presence on TNT remains robust in 2021 with the addition of the new hour-long series “AEW: Rampage.” Debuting on August 13 at 10 p.m. ET, “AEW: Rampage” is a third hour of high-octane wrestling featuring the world renowned stars of AEW. In addition, TNT will debut four new professional wrestling specials annually, continuing to garner and grow AEW’s audience until the move to TBS in 2022. “It’s a pleasure to be able to help Tony Khan expand his wrestling fiefdom across our networks and bring more content to our fans that fits the thrill ride brand of TNT and good time of TBS,” said Sam Linsky, Associate General Manager, SVP, Programming and Operations, TBS, TNT and truTV. “It’s Wednesday. You know what that means.” “As a lifelong wrestling aficionado who is privileged to present AEW to longtime and new fans alike, it means a lot to me – personally and professionally – to share the news that All Elite Wrestling will call TBS home beginning in 2022,” said Tony Khan, CEO, GM and Head of Creative of AEW. “The history of wrestling in the United States cannot be told without acknowledging the contributions of TBS, which as WTBS years ago delivered wrestling to the Southeast and eventually to a massive national audience. TBS has the same passion for wrestling today, but will offer AEW and our fans more prime time programming, content and global opportunities that will establish TBS as the world’s undisputed destination for wrestling. “And, while we’re looking forward to our arrival on TBS, we’re not saying goodbye to our original and current home of TNT, which will air four new special supercard events annually. Plus, the financial upside to our new agreement will give us the opportunity to continue to invest in and grow AEW to serve the most important people in our industry: our fans, our wrestlers, our staff and our sponsors. With All Elite Wrestling: Dynamite and Rampage taking center stage via our new agreement on TBS next year, and the new quarterly supercards launching on TNT, our exposure and our opportunities to grow AEW are greater than ever!” As AEW continues to deliver the best matches and most entertaining moments in professional wrestling today, tune in to the all new “AEW: Dynamite” tonight at 8 p.m. ET / 5 p.m. PT on TNT. In addition to being wrestling’s most watched show, “AEW: Dynamite” was the No. 1 program on Wednesday, May 5, on cable among A18-49, a first-time triumph for the wrestling franchise. In April, the electrifying wrestling show achieved its most-watched episode since the series launched on October 2, 2019, with over 1.2 million viewers tuning in. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed May 19th, 2021 09:31 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1302nd Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: pwinsider.com The word making the rounds is that between the switch to TBS, Rampage and the new quarterly specials on TNT, All Elite Wrestling is receiving in the area of an "eight figure payday" from WarnerMedia. A big part of the move was brought about by WarnerMedia making their deal with the NHL. Internally within AEW, this is being seen as a positive and a way to increase the company's footprint on multiple networks and additional content to produce. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 20th, 2021 01:37 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1303rd Post martini Wrestling Classics Owner Joined: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 Location: Posts: 4240 Status: Offline Mana: TBS and wrestling does feel right. Not sure that this TBS and that wrestling feels right, though. ____________________ Shaken, but not stirred. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 20th, 2021 03:47 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1304th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Why in the fuck is Jon Moxley’s new theme song “Wild Thing”? It’s so cheesy and doesn’t fit at all. What did I miss? ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 20th, 2021 04:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1305th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: pwinsider.com The word making the rounds is that between the switch to TBS, Rampage and the new quarterly specials on TNT, All Elite Wrestling is receiving in the area of an "eight figure payday" from WarnerMedia. A big part of the move was brought about by WarnerMedia making their deal with the NHL. Internally within AEW, this is being seen as a positive and a way to increase the company's footprint on multiple networks and additional content to produce. Okay, if we are to believe Meltzer, did he not report that AEW had signed a deal with Turner/Warner that was worth around forty/forty-five million back when they first debuted 'Dynamite'?It was either then, or shortly thereafter, I thought Meltzer reported that they signed an extension...but either way, I thought a forty-something million dollar number was reported and part of the deal was that AEW was to debut a second show on the Turner networks sometime in 2021.What I'm saying is that if what Dave reported was factual, AEW already had an "eight figure payday" signed with Turner/Warner. Did Pwinsider and Wade back up what Dave originally reported about the forty something million dollar deal back when Dave reported that?Or am I wrong, and did Dave, or any of the "respected" wrestling reporters NOT report that forty something million dollar figure? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 20th, 2021 04:36 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1306th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: pwinsider.com The word making the rounds is that between the switch to TBS, Rampage and the new quarterly specials on TNT, All Elite Wrestling is receiving in the area of an "eight figure payday" from WarnerMedia. A big part of the move was brought about by WarnerMedia making their deal with the NHL. Internally within AEW, this is being seen as a positive and a way to increase the company's footprint on multiple networks and additional content to produce. Okay, if we are to believe Meltzer, did he not report that AEW had signed a deal with Turner/Warner that was worth around forty/forty-five million back when they first debuted 'Dynamite'?It was either then, or shortly thereafter, I thought Meltzer reported that they signed an extension...but either way, I thought a forty-something million dollar number was reported and part of the deal was that AEW was to debut a second show on the Turner networks sometime in 2021.What I'm saying is that if what Dave reported was factual, AEW already had an "eight figure payday" signed with Turner/Warner. Did Pwinsider and Wade back up what Dave originally reported about the forty something million dollar deal back when Dave reported that?Or am I wrong, and did Dave, or any of the "respected" wrestling reporters NOT report that forty something million dollar figure? Don’t remember the exact figure but none of this should be a surprise. The 2nd show was planned from the beginning and widely reported, probably just delayed due to Covid. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 20th, 2021 04:51 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1307th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Why in the fuck is Jon Moxley’s new theme song “Wild Thing”? It’s so cheesy and doesn’t fit at all. What did I miss? I take it as Moxley wants to show the smarks that Foley was a pretender and that HE truly is the "American Onita". I'm kinda in the Cornette Camp on this one as far as my opinion of Moxley goes. His idea's suck and he should let a booker come up with his angles. I'm making the assumption that he has had a big say in his character arc so far in AEW. Not like the booker he works under right now would do him better, but you know what I mean. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 20th, 2021 06:46 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1308th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Why in the fuck is Jon Moxley’s new theme song “Wild Thing”? It’s so cheesy and doesn’t fit at all. What did I miss? I take it as Moxley wants to show the smarks that Foley was a pretender and that HE truly is the "American Onita". I'm kinda in the Cornette Camp on this one as far as my opinion of Moxley goes. His idea's suck and he should let a booker come up with his angles. I'm making the assumption that he has had a big say in his character arc so far in AEW. Not like the booker he works under right now would do him better, but you know what I mean. I completely forgot that Onita used “Wild Thing” so I guess that’s the connection, but Japan are marks for anything remotely western whether it makes sense or not. Moxley should know better. What a waste of Khan’s money to get those rights. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 20th, 2021 07:21 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1309th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Why in the fuck is Jon Moxley’s new theme song “Wild Thing”? It’s so cheesy and doesn’t fit at all. What did I miss? I take it as Moxley wants to show the smarks that Foley was a pretender and that HE truly is the "American Onita". I'm kinda in the Cornette Camp on this one as far as my opinion of Moxley goes. His idea's suck and he should let a booker come up with his angles. I'm making the assumption that he has had a big say in his character arc so far in AEW. Not like the booker he works under right now would do him better, but you know what I mean. I completely forgot that Onita used “Wild Thing” so I guess that’s the connection, but Japan are marks for anything remotely western whether it makes sense or not. Moxley should know better. What a waste of Khan’s money to get those rights. When that flute (or whatever it is) starts playing it makes it even cheesier. Not good. At least get the cover version by the band X...I think that is the version Onita used?It would probably be cheaper also for the rights as opposed to the original. Either way I can see using it once in the right circumstance. Nagata has nothing to do with FMW, never did. It doesn't make sense. The time to have used it was during his entrance at the last PPV against Omega. A one time thing, but not on TV. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu May 20th, 2021 10:02 pm PM Quote Reply 1310th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I always love the weekly Dynamite thread at Classics. A bunch of guys who clearly enjoy the show every week, but they're too cool for skool, so they pretend to hate it, in explicit detail. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri May 21st, 2021 12:35 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1311th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I always love the weekly Dynamite thread at Classics. A bunch of guys who clearly enjoy the show every week, but they're too cool for skool, so they pretend to hate it, in explicit detail. Sounds like KrazyKid. I enjoy Dynamite for what it is, which is a far superior version of WWE, but it definitely has regressed from those first few months and there’s a ton of filler now every week that seems unimportant, just like WWE. There are certainly weeks when Impact is better. The ironic thing is, if Vince and USA didn’t get their hands on NXT, the old WWE Network version of NXT would be far better, but NXT got ruined in the name of competing with AEW and now sucks as bad as anything else. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri May 21st, 2021 04:35 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1312th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Don Callis has resigned his position as VP at Impact and is now strictly talent, being paid per appearance for both Impact and AEW. The expectation is that he’ll wind up signing a contract with AEW and do that full-time eventually. He’ll likely work his way into a management spot as well as being talent, but that’s my speculation. Scott D’Amore, Tommy Dreamer, and Jimmy Jacobs remain as Creative for Impact and Callis is not expected to be replaced. I don’t know, you can say how much Impact is benefitting from having Omega on their PPVs as much as you want, but it really seems that Omega and Callis worked a shoot on Impact like when Pillman worked Bischoff into releasing him. Callis went from being a second tier manager and commentator in ECW and WWE 2 decades ago and was completely out of the business to now being red hot both in front of and behind the camera due to a plan he largely devised himself the last few months. So for those keeping score at home, the number of Impact talents appearing in AEW are now down to 2 (Gallows & Anderson), and you know they’re jumping as soon as their contracts are up. The relationship will probably be over by the end of the year, and I don’t know what Impact will be left with by then. They better have put something in writing that they get their title back (in the ring) otherwise I could easily see Omega never dropping the belt and maybe just mailing it back as Impact looks like idiots. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri May 21st, 2021 08:55 am PM Quote Reply 1313th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Don Callis has resigned his position as VP at Impact and is now strictly talent, being paid per appearance for both Impact and AEW. The expectation is that he’ll wind up signing a contract with AEW and do that full-time eventually. He’ll likely work his way into a management spot as well as being talent, but that’s my speculation. Scott D’Amore, Tommy Dreamer, and Jimmy Jacobs remain as Creative for Impact and Callis is not expected to be replaced. I don’t know, you can say how much Impact is benefitting from having Omega on their PPVs as much as you want, but it really seems that Omega and Callis worked a shoot on Impact like when Pillman worked Bischoff into releasing him. Callis went from being a second tier manager and commentator in ECW and WWE 2 decades ago and was completely out of the business to now being red hot both in front of and behind the camera due to a plan he largely devised himself the last few months. So for those keeping score at home, the number of Impact talents appearing in AEW are now down to 2 (Gallows & Anderson), and you know they’re jumping as soon as their contracts are up. The relationship will probably be over by the end of the year, and I don’t know what Impact will be left with by then. They better have put something in writing that they get their title back (in the ring) otherwise I could easily see Omega never dropping the belt and maybe just mailing it back as Impact looks like idiots. I'm not sure what you want out of all this. Whether it's only due to the pandemic or not, we currently have a lot of wrestlers able to appear in multiple promotions across AEW, Impact, MLW, NWA, New Japan and AAA (and other smaller groups around the world). It's not some all-encompassing shared universe, fantasy booking circle jerk, but it's giving us matches we wouldn't otherwise have seen. I don't see any evidence of the fans being screwed out of something they were promised yet, and no reason to think that titles won't be dropped in the ring when the time comes. You might be right, who knows, but don't worry about it until it happens. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri May 21st, 2021 02:34 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1314th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Don Callis has resigned his position as VP at Impact and is now strictly talent, being paid per appearance for both Impact and AEW. The expectation is that he’ll wind up signing a contract with AEW and do that full-time eventually. He’ll likely work his way into a management spot as well as being talent, but that’s my speculation. Scott D’Amore, Tommy Dreamer, and Jimmy Jacobs remain as Creative for Impact and Callis is not expected to be replaced. I don’t know, you can say how much Impact is benefitting from having Omega on their PPVs as much as you want, but it really seems that Omega and Callis worked a shoot on Impact like when Pillman worked Bischoff into releasing him. Callis went from being a second tier manager and commentator in ECW and WWE 2 decades ago and was completely out of the business to now being red hot both in front of and behind the camera due to a plan he largely devised himself the last few months. So for those keeping score at home, the number of Impact talents appearing in AEW are now down to 2 (Gallows & Anderson), and you know they’re jumping as soon as their contracts are up. The relationship will probably be over by the end of the year, and I don’t know what Impact will be left with by then. They better have put something in writing that they get their title back (in the ring) otherwise I could easily see Omega never dropping the belt and maybe just mailing it back as Impact looks like idiots. I'm not sure what you want out of all this. Whether it's only due to the pandemic or not, we currently have a lot of wrestlers able to appear in multiple promotions across AEW, Impact, MLW, NWA, New Japan and AAA (and other smaller groups around the world). It's not some all-encompassing shared universe, fantasy booking circle jerk, but it's giving us matches we wouldn't otherwise have seen. I don't see any evidence of the fans being screwed out of something they were promised yet, and no reason to think that titles won't be dropped in the ring when the time comes. You might be right, who knows, but don't worry about it until it happens. I never said I wanted out of this or that the fans were being screwed. Inevitably this will end and I just think Impact will be left holding the bag. The defection of Callis seems like a huge warning sign. I've thought for months that Callis seemed like he was working more for AEW than Impact and couldn't understand it, and now it seems obvious what was going on. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun May 23rd, 2021 12:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1315th Post Spatulapup Joined: Mon Nov 22nd, 2010 Location: Posts: 4474 Status: Offline Mana: I have been watching AEW botches which is something else. Who is this Luther? He is terrible. They need to stop doing the spot where the wrestlers get together and wait for the wrestler to dive. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun May 23rd, 2021 12:35 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1316th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/326.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu326')">Spatulapupa> wrote: I have been watching AEW botches which is something else. Who is this Luther? He is terrible. They need to stop doing the spot where the wrestlers get together and wait for the wrestler to dive. Luther is 52 and is a friend of Jericho’s from when he was first breaking into the business. He got pushed on the Canadian indies and in FMW where he feuded with Hayabusa. He almost exclusively appears on Dark as a jobber though, so not sure why so many people get bent out of shape over him. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun May 23rd, 2021 09:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1317th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Rocky Romero will represent NJPW Strong on Dark Elevation this week, taking on former EVOLVE star JD Drake (the one EVOLVE guy WWE didn’t want). Romero has become another Tommy Dreamer in that he seems to be able to work everywhere simultaneously and has no heat with anyone. He has recently appeared for ROH, MLW, and Impact. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue May 25th, 2021 03:21 pm PM Quote Reply 1318th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Rocky Romero will represent NJPW Strong on Dark Elevation this week, taking on former EVOLVE star JD Drake (the one EVOLVE guy WWE didn’t want). Romero has become another Tommy Dreamer in that he seems to be able to work everywhere simultaneously and has no heat with anyone. He has recently appeared for ROH, MLW, and Impact. This week's Evolution was a great show. A really good interview package with the Gunn Club, plus two matches worth going out of your way to watch: Penta vs Matt Sydal and Romero vs Drake. Most of the other matches on the show were above average, and Paul Wight is fast improving on commentary. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue May 25th, 2021 06:41 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1319th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Rocky Romero will represent NJPW Strong on Dark Elevation this week, taking on former EVOLVE star JD Drake (the one EVOLVE guy WWE didn’t want). Romero has become another Tommy Dreamer in that he seems to be able to work everywhere simultaneously and has no heat with anyone. He has recently appeared for ROH, MLW, and Impact. This week's Evolution was a great show. A really good interview package with the Gunn Club, plus two matches worth going out of your way to watch: Penta vs Matt Sydal and Romero vs Drake. Most of the other matches on the show were above average, and Paul Wight is fast improving on commentary. I will check it out. I also just saw Romero vs. Fred Yehi on ROH TV that aired the same day, so Romero is everywhere. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue May 25th, 2021 07:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1320th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Rocky Romero will represent NJPW Strong on Dark Elevation this week, taking on former EVOLVE star JD Drake (the one EVOLVE guy WWE didn’t want). Romero has become another Tommy Dreamer in that he seems to be able to work everywhere simultaneously and has no heat with anyone. He has recently appeared for ROH, MLW, and Impact. This week's Evolution was a great show. A really good interview package with the Gunn Club, plus two matches worth going out of your way to watch: Penta vs Matt Sydal and Romero vs Drake. Most of the other matches on the show were above average, and Paul Wight is fast improving on commentary. Funny exchange during the Scorpio Sky-Alan Ange;s match. Angels hit a dragon screw leg whip and Wight asked Schiavone, "Did you know that move was invented by Tatsumi Fujinami?" Schiavone jokingly busted him and said, "Did you know more than 30 seconds ago?" at which point Wight admitted that Excalibur was producing him in his earpiece. Funny stuff. I imagine that Excalibur producing you is a lot different than Vince doing it. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed May 26th, 2021 03:26 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1321st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Dynamite is pre-empted tonight due to the NBA playoffs. It will air on Friday at 10:30pm, a really bad time slot, so they got fucked this week. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed May 26th, 2021 07:02 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1322nd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Rocky Romero will represent NJPW Strong on Dark Elevation this week, taking on former EVOLVE star JD Drake (the one EVOLVE guy WWE didn’t want). Romero has become another Tommy Dreamer in that he seems to be able to work everywhere simultaneously and has no heat with anyone. He has recently appeared for ROH, MLW, and Impact. This week's Evolution was a great show. A really good interview package with the Gunn Club, plus two matches worth going out of your way to watch: Penta vs Matt Sydal and Romero vs Drake. Most of the other matches on the show were above average, and Paul Wight is fast improving on commentary. Funny exchange during the Scorpio Sky-Alan Ange;s match. Angels hit a dragon screw leg whip and Wight asked Schiavone, "Did you know that move was invented by Tatsumi Fujinami?" Schiavone jokingly busted him and said, "Did you know more than 30 seconds ago?" at which point Wight admitted that Excalibur was producing him in his earpiece. Funny stuff. I imagine that Excalibur producing you is a lot different than Vince doing it. "Stop calling the moves, dammit!" is not something that would ever come out of Excalibur's mouth. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun May 30th, 2021 08:12 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1323rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW Spanish announcer Willie Urbina was swiftly fired after mocking Hikaru Shida’s Japanese accent live on the Spanish language telecast of Dynamite on Friday. Thunder Rosa had joined the announce team as a guest and seemed to immediately realize it was a problem and get him to stop, but he didn’t take the hint. Urbina had formerly worked for TNA in the same capacity and was a big part of the Puerto Rican scene with WWC and IWA for many years before that. This is yet another.example of the white man holding down the black man, or something like that. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon May 31st, 2021 06:10 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1324th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Damn, this was a fun PPV tonight. Maybe top to bottom their best one. Nothing bad at all on the show. The crowd was electric and sounded 3x as loud as the fans at WM. From that to the visuals of the Stadium Stampede, AEW once again came off as bigger and slicker than WWE. The pandemic and getting the jump on WWE in the fans department is really helping their image IMO. All of the matches delivered huge. I preferred last year's Stampede match to this one, which was much more cinematic, but it recreated the I Quit match with Tully getting a wooden shard stuck in his face thanks to Konnan of all people, and appearances by Jaguars coach Urban Meyer and his staff. More spectacle than match, but after 3 1/2 hours of nothing but great matches, you don't mid so much as when WWE gives you some Firefly Funhouse bullshit after 5 matches just as shitty. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon May 31st, 2021 11:21 am PM Quote Reply 1325th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Damn, this was a fun PPV tonight. Maybe top to bottom their best one. Nothing bad at all on the show. The crowd was electric and sounded 3x as loud as the fans at WM. From that to the visuals of the Stadium Stampede, AEW once again came off as bigger and slicker than WWE. The pandemic and getting the jump on WWE in the fans department is really helping their image IMO. All of the matches delivered huge. I preferred last year's Stampede match to this one, which was much more cinematic, but it recreated the I Quit match with Tully getting a wooden shard stuck in his face thanks to Konnan of all people, and appearances by Jaguars coach Urban Meyer and his staff. More spectacle than match, but after 3 1/2 hours of nothing but great matches, you don't mid so much as when WWE gives you some Firefly Funhouse bullshit after 5 matches just as shitty. What a fantastic show. One thing I'll say though... on the pre-show, Excalibur was hyping the PPV like crazy to the international audience, listing off all the different PPV providers in Europe selling the PPV. Great! I'm sure your American eggball players are famous, but I have no clue, and care not one shit, about who they are, especially if they are presented as if I am supposed to know who they are. Cody Rhodes maybe doesn't realise this, but he's now the number one heel to a UK wrestling fan. He aligned himself with one of the biggest heel factions in the world, the US military, and also, he's not a good wrestler. I guess it comes from being WWE trained, but he's 5% of Dad, and maybe 20% of his brother as a wrestler, if I'm being generous. He really comes across as a guy making himself a star in his own company, much more than Omega and the Bucks, and even Tony Khan. If he wasn't doing the patriotic gimmick, I don't think anyone cares last night. I always thought this when he left WWE, that he just wasn't good, he did some stuff on the indies, and had that awesome match with his brother, but he's a mid-card talent at best, and he should stick to whatever he's doing behind the curtain. The next big pop he receives is when he'll soon parade his new baby to the crowd. Enough negatives, though. Every match from the pre-show to the final match (barring Cody-Agogo and the Battle Royal) was grade A for me. Basically, we got the best possible match we could from every single match, no holding back at all. Every match meant something, every match seemed fresh. Kenny Omega is getting some vicious heel-heat, which is great to see. Really looking forward to Friday's show now to see how they are going to build the next challengers, because they pretty much drew a line under every feud last night. 8 stars out of 5. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon May 31st, 2021 04:33 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1326th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Damn, this was a fun PPV tonight. Maybe top to bottom their best one. Nothing bad at all on the show. The crowd was electric and sounded 3x as loud as the fans at WM. From that to the visuals of the Stadium Stampede, AEW once again came off as bigger and slicker than WWE. The pandemic and getting the jump on WWE in the fans department is really helping their image IMO. All of the matches delivered huge. I preferred last year's Stampede match to this one, which was much more cinematic, but it recreated the I Quit match with Tully getting a wooden shard stuck in his face thanks to Konnan of all people, and appearances by Jaguars coach Urban Meyer and his staff. More spectacle than match, but after 3 1/2 hours of nothing but great matches, you don't mid so much as when WWE gives you some Firefly Funhouse bullshit after 5 matches just as shitty. What a fantastic show. One thing I'll say though... on the pre-show, Excalibur was hyping the PPV like crazy to the international audience, listing off all the different PPV providers in Europe selling the PPV. Great! I'm sure your American eggball players are famous, but I have no clue, and care not one shit, about who they are, especially if they are presented as if I am supposed to know who they are. Cody Rhodes maybe doesn't realise this, but he's now the number one heel to a UK wrestling fan. He aligned himself with one of the biggest heel factions in the world, the US military, and also, he's not a good wrestler. I guess it comes from being WWE trained, but he's 5% of Dad, and maybe 20% of his brother as a wrestler, if I'm being generous. He really comes across as a guy making himself a star in his own company, much more than Omega and the Bucks, and even Tony Khan. If he wasn't doing the patriotic gimmick, I don't think anyone cares last night. I always thought this when he left WWE, that he just wasn't good, he did some stuff on the indies, and had that awesome match with his brother, but he's a mid-card talent at best, and he should stick to whatever he's doing behind the curtain. The next big pop he receives is when he'll soon parade his new baby to the crowd. Enough negatives, though. Every match from the pre-show to the final match (barring Cody-Agogo and the Battle Royal) was grade A for me. Basically, we got the best possible match we could from every single match, no holding back at all. Every match meant something, every match seemed fresh. Kenny Omega is getting some vicious heel-heat, which is great to see. Really looking forward to Friday's show now to see how they are going to build the next challengers, because they pretty much drew a line under every feud last night. 8 stars out of 5. Cody-Agogo was what it was but exceeded expectations, mostly because of Agogo. He looked really good. And the battle royal was one of the best I ever saw mainly because I legitimately had no idea who would win. In WWE, there’s 3 guys who could even possibly win one of these. In this one, I didn’t know who they’d give it to until it was over. There were several times that I thought it would go different ways. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon May 31st, 2021 04:48 pm PM Quote Reply 1327th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Cody-Agogo was what it was but exceeded expectations, mostly because of Agogo. He looked really good. And the battle royal was one of the best I ever saw mainly because I legitimately had no idea who would win. In WWE, there’s 3 guys who could even possibly win one of these. In this one, I didn’t know who they’d give it to until it was over. There were several times that I thought it would go different ways. To clarify, the Cody match was fine, but I really don't like Cody, and US flag-waving in 2021 does less than nothing for me, so I was soured on the whole thing before it even started. Battle Royals are what they are, this one was okay. I wasn't saying it was bad, but it was a level below the rest of the card. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon May 31st, 2021 06:52 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1328th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Is there any doubt that Eddie Kingston is in a great place in life? I don’t know if it’s hanging with Mox, the paycheck, the respect he’s gotten, or all of the above. But the Wild Thing entrance with him wearing the Bad News Bears jersey - and not Kelly Leek, he wore Tanner Boyle, you puke - I honestly don’t remember a time in wrestling where a guy was actually beaming with pride and joy. He looked like he was having the time of his life and that he won the lottery, world title and got the girl all at the same time. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon May 31st, 2021 06:58 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1329th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Is there any doubt that Eddie Kingston is in a great place in life? I don’t know if it’s hanging with Mox, the paycheck, the respect he’s gotten, or all of the above. But the Wild Thing entrance with him wearing the Bad News Bears jersey - and not Kelly Leek, he wore Tanner Boyle, you puke - I honestly don’t remember a time in wrestling where a guy was actually beaming with pride and joy. He looked like he was having the time of his life and that he won the lottery, world title and got the girl all at the same time. Kingston’s been the best promo in wrestling for more than a decade and translated that into a cup of coffee in TNA and ROH for about 6 months total. He couldn’t stick anywhere even on the lowest rungs of the wrestling world. Now he’s about to turn 40 and he’s teaming with Jon Moxley in the 2nd biggest company in America. And after he retires, he should be teaching promo classes to their kids for years after. No one makes me believe more than him. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon May 31st, 2021 07:01 pm PM Quote Reply 1330th Post Heenan Fan Joined: Location: Posts: Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Is there any doubt that Eddie Kingston is in a great place in life? I don’t know if it’s hanging with Mox, the paycheck, the respect he’s gotten, or all of the above. But the Wild Thing entrance with him wearing the Bad News Bears jersey - and not Kelly Leek, he wore Tanner Boyle, you puke - I honestly don’t remember a time in wrestling where a guy was actually beaming with pride and joy. He looked like he was having the time of his life and that he won the lottery, world title and got the girl all at the same time. I couldn't agree more. When he debuted in AEW, I was like "why the hell would they bring in Kenny Kingston". Now he is one of my favorite performers in all of wrestling. Best promo in the biz right now. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 1st, 2021 12:45 pm PM Quote Reply 1331st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Elevation was a good show this week. Less that 90 minutes, so short by Dark/Elevation standards recently, and it was filmed with a full crowd, so there are some nice crowd reactions. A full Daily's Place is around 5,500 people, so this was the biggest crowd a lot of these wrestlers have even competed in front of. They looked like they were having a great time. A couple of good matches in Penta vs Jack Evans and Jungle Boy vs JD Drake. Also, a good interview with Dustin Rhodes hyping his bull rope match with Nick Comoroto on Friday night. They also did a Jungle Boy interview (he needs to work on his mic work) hyping his battle royal win and upcoming match with Kenny Omega which broke down and we are probably going to see a match between Christian Cage & Jurassic Express and Matt Hardy & Private Party soon. Last edited on Tue Jun 1st, 2021 12:47 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 1st, 2021 04:31 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1332nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: As loud as the live audience came across during Double or Nothing 2021 over the weekend, we are told that live, the crowd in Jacksonville, Florida was even louder. It was very much an emotional night for a lot of the talents to work in front of that many fans, especially those who came to the company after the pandemic began. There was a HUGE pop in the locker room among the talents for Sting's work during his tag match at the Double or Nothing PPV. Much of the Stadium Stampede match that took place inside the Stadium was taped Friday evening with the remainder, including some of the MJF vs. Chris Jericho brawl in the officies of TIAA Stadium, taking place live Sunday night, leading into the portion of the match that took place before the fans live at Daily's Place. Early PPV sale numbers for the digital end were extremely positive. The Jacksonville Jaguars' Urban Meyer and Charlie Strong making a cameo during The Stadium Stampede helped AEW get some attention on FOX News and The New York Post, among other outlets. Jon Moxley wore a t-shirt featuring the late Trent Acid to the ring during the PPV. Moxley had been holding onto the shirt for years waiting for the right time to wear it. On a personal note, seeing Moxley pay tribute to Acid, who passed away in 2010, meant the world to me personally and I can only hope that his family was made aware of the tribute. Tony Lewis of StrictlyECW fame stated that he felt the AEW Double or Nothing PPV was the "most fun" PPV he had watched at home dating back to ECW's Heatwave 1998, which was the all-time best ECW PPV presentation. The addition of WWE Hall of Famer Mark Henry brings another veteran, who alongside Paul Wight, Chris Jericho and Christian Cage, is expected to give advice and help younger members of the AEW roster. Wight have built quite a reputation in recent months for approaching talent and mentoring them about their matches and things they can to do try and add to their work or tweak things that might not work 100%. Henry was backstage at the first AEW PPV several years ago. Tickets are now on sale for this Friday's Dynamite taping in Jacksonville, Florida at <A HREF="http://www.AEWTix.com." TARGET="_blank">http://www.AEWTix.com.A> Tickets for the first AEW Dynamite on the road in Miami have done excellent sales and the belief is there will be a sellout in advance. PWInsider.com will be looking for live thoughts and results of the tapings when the company returns to its pre-pandemic touring schedule. Comedian Brad Williams was in attendance visiting at the PPV. We are told Williams is close friends with Lance Hoyt. There were about 1,000-1,500 in attendance at the company's first-ever official Fanfest this past Saturday. We have heard nothing but praise for the organization and logistics of how that was handled. There are early plans for another Fanfest this September in Chicago. AEW's Full Gear PPV will be Saturday 11/6 in St. Louis at the Chaifetz Arena. The current plan is for the debut episode of AEW Rampage on 8/13 to broadcast live on TNT. Some episodes will be taped after Dynamite, but not all. The company is working out how this will all flow together going forward, but there will be some tweaks to the taping format and schedule of Dark and Elevation once the company returns to the road full-time. AEW President Tony Khan personally apologized to Hikaru Shida, who commented on the release of Willie Urbina over the weekend without mentioning Urbina by name via Twitter ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 1st, 2021 04:53 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1333rd Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: PWInsider: There was a HUGE pop in the locker room among the talents for Sting's work during his tag match at the Double or Nothing PPV. well deserved too..I finally got to watch it and Sting turned the clock back for sure in that match, dude is 62 and looked as good as he's looked since WCW... ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 1st, 2021 06:02 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1334th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/130.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu130')">Married Joa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: PWInsider: There was a HUGE pop in the locker room among the talents for Sting's work during his tag match at the Double or Nothing PPV. well deserved too..I finally got to watch it and Sting turned the clock back for sure in that match, dude is 62 and looked as good as he's looked since WCW... He had a run in TNA that was truly amazing where he was bumping for guys half his age and was just putting on killer matches and had a killer physique. But even that was more than a decade ago now. By his 2nd or 3rd TNA comeback, he looked pretty old and lethargic again. Sting is the kind of guy who seems to get super motivated at the beginning of a new job and can turn back the clock, temporarily. It's impossible to keep up, and I hope AEW ends his run with one big match soon so he can go out on top and just settle into a goodwill ambassador role. I don't want to see Sting bumping like that much longer, especially after that stinger on the buckle bomb that ended his WWE run. No need to keep doing this shit. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jun 1st, 2021 06:11 pm PM Quote Reply 1335th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Maybe Sting loses motivation when he runs out of people to talk to Jeebus about. AEW has a huge roster, though, so it might take a while. They can keep using Sting in multi-man matches for a while, I'd say. If you've ever seen Dory Funk Jr wrestling for All Japan in the past 10 years, anything is possible. On second thoughts... ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 2nd, 2021 02:28 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1336th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Cody released a Gay Pride Month T-shirt of his logo in rainbow colors. All proceeds will go to The National Center for Transgender Equality because no one really cares about just run-of-the-mill gays anymore. Why Cody has to release this shirt and not Nyla Rose is a mystery to all but him, but it’s obvious that as a white kid who grew up rich, he takes great pride in being the voice of the oppressed and don’t let anyone forget it. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 2nd, 2021 07:07 am PM Quote Reply 1337th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Great episode of Dark last night, coming in at under an hour. The two Dark shows this week combined were shorter than the longest single episodes of pandemic-era Dark, which will please a lot of people, although I never minded the long shows. Not a bad match on the show. I will say this, though. I never minded Marko Stunt until now. He was acting the complete cunt on this show. First, he played to the crowd when he came out, as if the huge pop was for anyone other Jungle Boy. Then during the match, he was fucking around constantly like everyone's annoying kid brother. Somehow that little shit managed to be more distracting than Luchasaurus, a giant man in a green mask. Makes me think the guy is a prick in real life who believes that he is over. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 2nd, 2021 02:00 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1338th Post bpickering HALL OF FAMER Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2007 Location: Highspire, Pennsylvania USA Posts: 20180 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Cody released a Gay Pride Month T-shirt of his logo in rainbow colors. All proceeds will go to The National Center for Transgender Equality because no one really cares about just run-of-the-mill gays anymore. Why Cody has to release this shirt and not Nyla Rose is a mystery to all but him, but it’s obvious that as a white kid who grew up rich, he takes great pride in being the voice of the oppressed and don’t let anyone forget it. I think Dustin's Step-Daughter is a Transgender. ____________________ "22 years of my fucking life just got fucking ruined!!!!"---Fan outside Wrestlemania XXX PRO WRESTLING HALL OF FAME: www.angelfire.com/pa5/old (updated September 2 2018) RIP UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2016 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 2nd, 2021 07:11 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1339th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Very unfortunate timing, but AEW being pre-empted by the NBA playoffs has killed their ratings, as expected. The Friday night show at 10pm did 526,000 viewers. They're on Friday again this week coming off of a red-hot PPV. They probably would've broken 1 million in their regular timeslot, but it is what it is when you're on TNT. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 2nd, 2021 07:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1340th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/96.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu96')">bpickeringa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Cody released a Gay Pride Month T-shirt of his logo in rainbow colors. All proceeds will go to The National Center for Transgender Equality because no one really cares about just run-of-the-mill gays anymore. Why Cody has to release this shirt and not Nyla Rose is a mystery to all but him, but it’s obvious that as a white kid who grew up rich, he takes great pride in being the voice of the oppressed and don’t let anyone forget it. I think Dustin's Step-Daughter is a Transgender. Dustin has released his own shirt for the month. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jun 13th, 2021 12:43 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1341st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: There is an Impact PPV tonight with a main event of Kenny Omega defending the Impact title against Moose. That match will take place at Daley’s Place and Tony Schiavone will be on commentary with Don Callis and Scott D’Amore. The rest of the show will be taped at Skyway Studios where Impact has always been during Covid, and the commentators will be Josh Matthews and D-Lo Brown as usual. I’m really looking forward to this match as Moose has been killing it this year, and was the MVP of the 6-man tag match against Omega a few months ago. They seemed to gel well in that match, and I have high hopes for this one. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jun 13th, 2021 04:50 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1342nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: There is an Impact PPV tonight with a main event of Kenny Omega defending the Impact title against Moose. That match will take place at Daley’s Place and Tony Schiavone will be on commentary with Don Callis and Scott D’Amore. The rest of the show will be taped at Skyway Studios where Impact has always been during Covid, and the commentators will be Josh Matthews and D-Lo Brown as usual. I’m really looking forward to this match as Moose has been killing it this year, and was the MVP of the 6-man tag match against Omega a few months ago. They seemed to gel well in that match, and I have high hopes for this one. Omega retains after a ref bump and the Young Bucks running in. After the match, Sami Callihan runs in and takes out The Elite with a baseball bat. Callis leaves the announce position and fires Callihan from Impact as the now kayfabe EVP of Impact. Scott D'Amore runs after Callis arguing with him. Callihan was supposed to face the winner of this match at Slammiversary. The match was OK, but never approached the level of an AEW main event or what I expected from it. They protected Moose as well as they could in defeat though. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jun 13th, 2021 09:42 am PM Quote Reply 1343rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: There is an Impact PPV tonight with a main event of Kenny Omega defending the Impact title against Moose. That match will take place at Daley’s Place and Tony Schiavone will be on commentary with Don Callis and Scott D’Amore. The rest of the show will be taped at Skyway Studios where Impact has always been during Covid, and the commentators will be Josh Matthews and D-Lo Brown as usual. I’m really looking forward to this match as Moose has been killing it this year, and was the MVP of the 6-man tag match against Omega a few months ago. They seemed to gel well in that match, and I have high hopes for this one. Omega retains after a ref bump and the Young Bucks running in. After the match, Sami Callihan runs in and takes out The Elite with a baseball bat. Callis leaves the announce position and fires Callihan from Impact as the now kayfabe EVP of Impact. Scott D'Amore runs after Callis arguing with him. Callihan was supposed to face the winner of this match at Slammiversary. The match was OK, but never approached the level of an AEW main event or what I expected from it. They protected Moose as well as they could in defeat though. They need to explain how Callihan made it from Nashville to Jacksonville so quickly. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jun 13th, 2021 08:04 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1344th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: There is an Impact PPV tonight with a main event of Kenny Omega defending the Impact title against Moose. That match will take place at Daley’s Place and Tony Schiavone will be on commentary with Don Callis and Scott D’Amore. The rest of the show will be taped at Skyway Studios where Impact has always been during Covid, and the commentators will be Josh Matthews and D-Lo Brown as usual. I’m really looking forward to this match as Moose has been killing it this year, and was the MVP of the 6-man tag match against Omega a few months ago. They seemed to gel well in that match, and I have high hopes for this one. Omega retains after a ref bump and the Young Bucks running in. After the match, Sami Callihan runs in and takes out The Elite with a baseball bat. Callis leaves the announce position and fires Callihan from Impact as the now kayfabe EVP of Impact. Scott D'Amore runs after Callis arguing with him. Callihan was supposed to face the winner of this match at Slammiversary. The match was OK, but never approached the level of an AEW main event or what I expected from it. They protected Moose as well as they could in defeat though. They need to explain how Callihan made it from Nashville to Jacksonville so quickly. It was weird because they said The Good Brothers couldn’t interfere because THEY were in Nashville and had wrestled in the first match, against Callahan! That’s why the Young Bucks ran in instead. So how did Callahan make it but The Good Brothers couldn’t? ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Jun 14th, 2021 04:58 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1345th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tonight on "Most Wanted Treasures", both The Big Show and Mark Henry are featured as they search for Andre the Giant artifacts. Whoops, should've aired that one a bit earlier. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 16th, 2021 04:42 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1346th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: All Elite Wrestling will make its official debut in New York City for a live Dynamite taping on Wednesday 9/22, AEW President Tony Khan announced this morning on WFAN Radio. AEW will debut that evening at the Arthur Ashe Tennis Stadium in Flushing, NY, which opened in 1997 and has hosted the US Open for tennis. The venue fits over 23,000 for tennis (it is the largest tennis stadium in the world), so AEW should be able to hit a healthy crowd into the building live. The stadium has a retractable roof, so AEW will be able to run no matter the weather conditions. This will be the first time the venue has ever hosted professional wrestling. It is easily accessible via New York City's public transportation. The event will obviously be a homecoming for a number of AEW stars who hail from the Metropolitan area, including Eddie Kingston, MJF, Santana, Ortiz, Alex Reynolds, John Silver, Max Caster, Kris Statlander, Beretta and many more. Tickets will go on sale on 7/16. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 16th, 2021 04:49 pm PM Quote Reply 1347th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Kris Statlander is not from New York. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 16th, 2021 04:53 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1348th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Kris Statlander is not from New York. I believe she's from the Hicksville section of Mars, which is just north of Dudleyville. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2021 07:02 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1349th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Don Callis has resigned his position as VP at Impact and is now strictly talent, being paid per appearance for both Impact and AEW. The expectation is that he’ll wind up signing a contract with AEW and do that full-time eventually. He’ll likely work his way into a management spot as well as being talent, but that’s my speculation. Scott D’Amore, Tommy Dreamer, and Jimmy Jacobs remain as Creative for Impact and Callis is not expected to be replaced. I don’t know, you can say how much Impact is benefitting from having Omega on their PPVs as much as you want, but it really seems that Omega and Callis worked a shoot on Impact like when Pillman worked Bischoff into releasing him. Callis went from being a second tier manager and commentator in ECW and WWE 2 decades ago and was completely out of the business to now being red hot both in front of and behind the camera due to a plan he largely devised himself the last few months. So for those keeping score at home, the number of Impact talents appearing in AEW are now down to 2 (Gallows & Anderson), and you know they’re jumping as soon as their contracts are up. The relationship will probably be over by the end of the year, and I don’t know what Impact will be left with by then. They better have put something in writing that they get their title back (in the ring) otherwise I could easily see Omega never dropping the belt and maybe just mailing it back as Impact looks like idiots. Last night on Impact, Don Callis was fired as EVP by Tommy Dreamer, who was given an Anthem Board position. Callis had fired Sami Callihan to protect Kenny Omega and that decision was reversed. So at Slammiversary the Omega vs. Callihan match is back on. It’ll be interesting to see how often Callis continues to appear on Impact TV or if he’ll transition more to the AEW side now. Impact got in a few shots at WWE during the segment. Callis told Dreamer he was always “a Bruce Prichard stooge”. Dreamer told Callis he could find his belongings in a garbage bag backstage, the 2nd joke they made in the episode about the Mickie James incident. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2021 08:30 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1350th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Brandi Rhodes just popped out the granddaughter of a plumber. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2021 09:15 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1351st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Brandi Rhodes just popped out the granddaughter of a plumber. She’ll be AEW World champion within 2 years. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2021 11:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1352nd Post One Fan Gang Joined: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 Location: Posts: 16317 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Brandi Rhodes just popped out the Great granddaughter of a plumber. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2021 04:46 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1353rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: This week's People Magazine has a photo spread of Cody, Brandi, and the new baby. I'm not sure how they swung that since I can't imagine the typical People reader caring at all, but then again they do love their baby pics. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2021 07:17 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1354th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/237.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu237')">One Fan Ganga> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Brandi Rhodes just popped out the Great granddaughter of a plumber. Way too soon to be calling her great, OFG... ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2021 07:20 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1355th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: A recent quote from Shahid Khan about what he thought when Tony came to him to start AEW: "No, I didn't think it was a good idea, but I said to Tony, 'You know, when I die, I'm going to be leaving you and your sister a LOT of money. You may as well blow some of it now'.". If that doesn't say enough about how deep those pockets are, nothing will. AEW will be in it for the long haul. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2021 07:29 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1356th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: A recent quote from Shahid Khan about what he thought when Tony came to him to start AEW: "No, I didn't think it was a good idea, but I said to Tony, 'You know, when I die, I'm going to be leaving you and your sister a LOT of money. You may as well blow some of it now'.". If that doesn't say enough about how deep those pockets are, nothing will. AEW will be in it for the long haul. AEW's new slogan: "Blowing Some Money Now". ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2021 07:33 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1357th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: A recent quote from Shahid Khan about what he thought when Tony came to him to start AEW: "No, I didn't think it was a good idea, but I said to Tony, 'You know, when I die, I'm going to be leaving you and your sister a LOT of money. You may as well blow some of it now'.". If that doesn't say enough about how deep those pockets are, nothing will. AEW will be in it for the long haul. AEW's new slogan: "Blowing Some Money Now". That NEEDS to be on a sign in the crowd. Does this board have a presence in Jacksonville? Is Tony on this board like he was the other board? Can we invite him? ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2021 10:51 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1358th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: NJPW have announced that The Good Brothers are coming back for the next tour. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2021 04:53 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1359th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW put on a tremendous “final pandemic show” in Jacksonville before hitting the road again next week. The main event of Guevara vs. MJF was off the charts and easily Guevara’s best work yet. Then they ended the show with an awesome music video of highlights of the pandemic era, the type of thing that WWE’s production team used to slap together on a weekly basis but forgot how to do 20 years ago. It made AEW in front of no fans look bigger than Wrestlemania III. Just a great all around show that got me excited to see what they do in full arenas again. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2021 10:13 am PM Quote Reply 1360th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: MJF's dad on Twitter last night: "My son is a total ass-hat, but man he can deliver a promo 🔥#AEWDynamite @the_MJF" ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2021 02:06 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1361st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: I didn’t catch it, but apparently Jim Ross said “WWE Dynamite” at the end of last night’s show. Twitter reacted as you’d expect and JR apologized for the “untimely error”. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2021 02:54 pm PM Quote Reply 1362nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I didn’t catch it, but apparently Jim Ross said “WWE Dynamite” at the end of last night’s show. Twitter reacted as you’d expect and JR apologized for the “untimely error”. It was right at the ends, after the Daily's Place video package, and he was plugging ticket sales for the upcoming live TV tapings. AEW should move JR out of the announce booth for many reasons, but not for this slip of the tongue. I think the reaction is more because it becomes more and more obvious that JR isn't a fan of the AEW in-ring product. If Tony had made the same gaffe, I don't think Twitter would have been so angry. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2021 04:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1363rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I didn’t catch it, but apparently Jim Ross said “WWE Dynamite” at the end of last night’s show. Twitter reacted as you’d expect and JR apologized for the “untimely error”. It was right at the ends, after the Daily's Place video package, and he was plugging ticket sales for the upcoming live TV tapings. AEW should move JR out of the announce booth for many reasons, but not for this slip of the tongue. I think the reaction is more because it becomes more and more obvious that JR isn't a fan of the AEW in-ring product. If Tony had made the same gaffe, I don't think Twitter would have been so angry. I think this mistake is understandable after spending 25 or so years saying "WWE". It was bound to happen, especially given JR's age and health issues. He's obviously not as sharp as he once was. I think he still adds something and clearly AEW feels he gives them credibility based on reputation and name recognition. But I completely agree with you on him not being a fan of the product, or really any product these days, or the modern fan. Even at the end end in WWE, JR would get really bitter and start shooting on smart marks for no particular reason on the air, or make comments about tweets towards him. He would also knock some of the high spots and make sarcastic comments like "That's just like Dick Murdoch used to do it." It's not appropriate for a guy who's paid to put over the product. In AEW, surrounded by younger talent with an even younger fanbase of gamers and Twitchers and YouTubers, he's completely lost as far as the audience and who AEW is targeting, and he just sounds angry all the time. He's a more professional Jim Cornette, able to bite his tongue (barely) to collect his paycheck, but seeming to hate the current product and fans. He also just flat-out has a mean streak and always has. I heard him chew out fans for no reason at all on the call-in shows that WWE produced way back in 1996 or so. He gets in a bad mood and drops the "Good Ol JR" veneer sometimes and becomes your angry grandfather shouting about the hippies over Thanksgiving dinner, and he's been this way since he himself was fairly young. On the other hand, Tony has found the fountain of youth and his passion for wrestling seems to be far beyond what it was at any point during the Monday Night Wars. He's clearly just having fun and not feeling any of the stress of 1998. He's enthusiastic and just really good again. His interplay with Britt Baker, however it came about and whether they were just booked together or it grew organically, is such a joy to watch that I half expect Adam Cole to get shoot jealous that chubby old Tony is going to steal his wife. In fact, if AEW ever does sign Cole, he HAS to come in by superkicking Tony. That's the highest compliment I can give that you actually believe those two are having that much fun working together, because I can't imagine that relationship working with anyone else. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jul 4th, 2021 09:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1364th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: For those here who regularly keep up on all the other AEW programming besides 'Dynamite', can you tell me how much you see Colt Cabana wrestle? For a guy with a name and experience he seems wasted. Every time you see him he is always standing in the background when the Dark Order are on screen. He never says anything during DO promos. I would imagine he is making the most money out of all his Dark Order buddies..Except Adam Page, that is if you even count him as a member. I'm not sure he could pull it off as he always has to throw in "ha ha, wink, wink" bullshit every time he is on screen, but do you think he could make a passable leader of the Dark Order? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jul 4th, 2021 02:47 pm PM Quote Reply 1365th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: For those here who regularly keep up on all the other AEW programming besides 'Dynamite', can you tell me how much you see Colt Cabana wrestle? For a guy with a name and experience he seems wasted. Every time you see him he is always standing in the background when the Dark Order are on screen. He never says anything during DO promos. I would imagine he is making the most money out of all his Dark Order buddies..Except Adam Page, that is if you even count him as a member. I'm not sure he could pull it off as he always has to throw in "ha ha, wink, wink" bullshit every time he is on screen, but do you think he could make a passable leader of the Dark Order? He wrestles about once a month, maybe slightly more. He's working as an agent backstage, which is his main role in AEW. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jul 4th, 2021 04:52 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1366th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: For those here who regularly keep up on all the other AEW programming besides 'Dynamite', can you tell me how much you see Colt Cabana wrestle? For a guy with a name and experience he seems wasted. Every time you see him he is always standing in the background when the Dark Order are on screen. He never says anything during DO promos. I would imagine he is making the most money out of all his Dark Order buddies..Except Adam Page, that is if you even count him as a member. I'm not sure he could pull it off as he always has to throw in "ha ha, wink, wink" bullshit every time he is on screen, but do you think he could make a passable leader of the Dark Order? His name pops on on Dark and Elevation somewhat regularly but he’s at the end of his career and as mentioned is working as an agent, as is Christopher Daniels and some of the other veterans. It’s a good role for them to transition out of taking bumps after all these years, and could even result in cushy WWE jobs one day. WWE hired Abyss, Sonjay Dutt, etc. who got experience in this area with Impact. Cabana’s a big indy name but not one with the greatest won-loss record over the past 10 years. He hasn’t been pushed hard anywhere since he was NWA champion, which was a long time ago now. I don’t think any AEW fan is really clamoring to see much more of him. He doesn’t fit into the Dark Order at all and I don’t know why they ever put him there, but now with Brodie dead he is mentoring young talent like Alex Reynolds and Anna Jay. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 05:17 am PM Quote Reply 1367th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: If you were ever unsure if wrestling is real or fake, watch a strap match. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 05:19 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1368th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Alestair Black showed up tonight on AEW and laid out Cody and Arn. I read that WWE fucked up and never signed him to a WWE contract - his entire time on the roster was under his original NXT contract. And NXT contracts only have a 30 day non compete. My question to those that follow this shit closer than I do: How come it seems like every week, WWE fucks something up - something that in years past would NEVER happen. I just don’t think the hand knows what the arm is doing over there right now. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 05:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1369th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Alestair Black showed up tonight on AEW and laid out Cody and Arn. I read that WWE fucked up and never signed him to a WWE contract - his entire time on the roster was under his original NXT contract. And NXT contracts only have a 30 day non compete. My question to those that follow this shit closer than I do: How come it seems like every week, WWE fucks something up - something that in years past would NEVER happen. I just don’t think the hand knows what the arm is doing over there right now. AEW did such a WWE thing tonight. This guy debuts and no one is supposed to know he’s there. The announcers act shocked. Excalibur calls him Tommy End, which is fine because that’s been his indy name for years. But then he says he’s now known as “Malakai Black”. When the fuck did you find that out? How about waiting until next week to say that’s the name he now wants to be known as? It’s such an easy thing to avoid making this shit seem so fake but no one can do it anymore. Even AEW didn’t try. I call out WWE on this shit every week so I have to do it to AEW too. This isn’t rocket science. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 05:46 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1370th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Dan Lambert playing the role of Jim Cornette was great, even though he really didn’t get as much heat as I would’ve hoped, probably because the fans had no idea who he was. Lambert was gold in Impact managing Bobby Lashley and I hope AEW brings him in as someone’s mouthpiece full-time. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 06:22 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1371st Post One Fan Gang Joined: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 Location: Posts: 16317 Status: Offline Mana: Is it pronounced Malakai sort of like Molokai, the Hawaiian Island? I just saw a clip shot directly from some guy's phone at his TV and the audio sucks this way so in the 20 seconds he has it on, you only hear heavy fanboy breathing and "Holy Shit is that Aleister Black???" I'm hoping actually it gets spelled Malachi and sounds like muh-LAH-chee so there can be a modern day update of the Malachi Crunch from the Happy Days episode about a demolition derby with Pinky Tuscadero. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 06:38 am PM Quote Reply 1372nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Alestair Black showed up tonight on AEW and laid out Cody and Arn. I read that WWE fucked up and never signed him to a WWE contract - his entire time on the roster was under his original NXT contract. And NXT contracts only have a 30 day non compete. My question to those that follow this shit closer than I do: How come it seems like every week, WWE fucks something up - something that in years past would NEVER happen. I just don’t think the hand knows what the arm is doing over there right now. AEW did such a WWE thing tonight. This guy debuts and no one is supposed to know he’s there. The announcers act shocked. Excalibur calls him Tommy End, which is fine because that’s been his indy name for years. But then he says he’s now known as “Malakai Black”. When the fuck did you find that out? How about waiting until next week to say that’s the name he now wants to be known as? It’s such an easy thing to avoid making this shit seem so fake but no one can do it anymore. Even AEW didn’t try. I call out WWE on this shit every week so I have to do it to AEW too. This isn’t rocket science. He posted a video on Instagram earlier in the day where he revealed the new name. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 06:41 am PM Quote Reply 1373rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Dan Lambert playing the role of Jim Cornette was great, even though he really didn’t get as much heat as I would’ve hoped, probably because the fans had no idea who he was. Lambert was gold in Impact managing Bobby Lashley and I hope AEW brings him in as someone’s mouthpiece full-time. He's a very good promo, but listing all the old school CWF names was a mistake, because people want to cheer those names, and he trying to elicit a negative reaction, and people really didn't know how to react. Of all the days for someone to try to get booed for mentioning Terry Funk! ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 06:45 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1374th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Alestair Black showed up tonight on AEW and laid out Cody and Arn. I read that WWE fucked up and never signed him to a WWE contract - his entire time on the roster was under his original NXT contract. And NXT contracts only have a 30 day non compete. My question to those that follow this shit closer than I do: How come it seems like every week, WWE fucks something up - something that in years past would NEVER happen. I just don’t think the hand knows what the arm is doing over there right now. AEW did such a WWE thing tonight. This guy debuts and no one is supposed to know he’s there. The announcers act shocked. Excalibur calls him Tommy End, which is fine because that’s been his indy name for years. But then he says he’s now known as “Malakai Black”. When the fuck did you find that out? How about waiting until next week to say that’s the name he now wants to be known as? It’s such an easy thing to avoid making this shit seem so fake but no one can do it anymore. Even AEW didn’t try. I call out WWE on this shit every week so I have to do it to AEW too. This isn’t rocket science. He posted a video on Instagram earlier in the day where he revealed the new name. Then he shouldn't have done that. Have the big reveals on the show. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 07:18 am PM Quote Reply 1375th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: Alestair Black showed up tonight on AEW and laid out Cody and Arn. I read that WWE fucked up and never signed him to a WWE contract - his entire time on the roster was under his original NXT contract. And NXT contracts only have a 30 day non compete. My question to those that follow this shit closer than I do: How come it seems like every week, WWE fucks something up - something that in years past would NEVER happen. I just don’t think the hand knows what the arm is doing over there right now. AEW did such a WWE thing tonight. This guy debuts and no one is supposed to know he’s there. The announcers act shocked. Excalibur calls him Tommy End, which is fine because that’s been his indy name for years. But then he says he’s now known as “Malakai Black”. When the fuck did you find that out? How about waiting until next week to say that’s the name he now wants to be known as? It’s such an easy thing to avoid making this shit seem so fake but no one can do it anymore. Even AEW didn’t try. I call out WWE on this shit every week so I have to do it to AEW too. This isn’t rocket science. He posted a video on Instagram earlier in the day where he revealed the new name. Then he shouldn't have done that. Have the big reveals on the show. People still thought he was under a 90-day no compete. He did a promo where he blamed "Matthew" (Buddy Murphy's real name is Matthew Adams) for his black eye, which was a call back to Black calling Velveteen Dream "Patrick" back in NXT. I'm pretty sure we were supposed to think that Malakai Black was going to be his new WWE gimmick. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 08:28 am PM Quote Reply 1376th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: For anyone who thinks that hardcore internet fans make up a small percentage of the audience (I don't agree), they made up a lot of last night's crowd. That was a hefty "you got fired" chant for Don Callis. Probably more people chanting than watch Impact. Last edited on Thu Jul 8th, 2021 08:28 am by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 08:40 am PM Quote Reply 1377th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: I thought last night's show was very good, with a predictably hot crowd. The negatives were the opening match, because strap matches are inherently ridiculous, and Cody is only half as good as he thinks he is. The Pinacle vs Inner Circle match seemed very flat, probably because they have wrestled a few matches now, and this one seemed pointless. Konnan feuding with Tully seems to have been pulled from nowhere. I get why Konnan is there, but I don't see why Tully has a personal issue with him since they are from two completely different eras. Jericho facing the Pinacle in a gauntlet match? AEW rarely book themselves into a corner, but here either old man Jericho defeats the entire Pinacle, or he loses early and we don't get the Jericho MJF match. Usually our would expect DQs and other shenanigans, but AEW defines itself by not using those crutches. Maybe they will find a creative way around this and prove me wrong. Don't get me wrong, this show was a solid B+ and I'm only pointing out the negatives because my Khan money didn't arrive this week. EDIT: They used the old school playground Bangkok gag. Eye roll. Vince will be so mad that none of writers have ever told him that one. Probably ly his favorite moment in AEW history. EDIT 2: Karl Anderson vs Moxley for the NJPW US title came from nowhere. Didn't seem right not to have a Mox promo in there. EDIT 3: A positive comment... Britt Baker's Saudi blood money comment might be the most savage inter-promotional shot across the bow ever. Last edited on Thu Jul 8th, 2021 09:04 am by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 03:33 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1378th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I thought last night's show was very good, with a predictably hot crowd. The negatives were the opening match, because strap matches are inherently ridiculous, and Cody is only half as good as he thinks he is. The Pinacle vs Inner Circle match seemed very flat, probably because they have wrestled a few matches now, and this one seemed pointless. Konnan feuding with Tully seems to have been pulled from nowhere. I get why Konnan is there, but I don't see why Tully has a personal issue with him since they are from two completely different eras. Jericho facing the Pinacle in a gauntlet match? AEW rarely book themselves into a corner, but here either old man Jericho defeats the entire Pinacle, or he loses early and we don't get the Jericho MJF match. Usually our would expect DQs and other shenanigans, but AEW defines itself by not using those crutches. Maybe they will find a creative way around this and prove me wrong. Don't get me wrong, this show was a solid B+ and I'm only pointing out the negatives because my Khan money didn't arrive this week. EDIT: They used the old school playground Bangkok gag. Eye roll. Vince will be so mad that none of writers have ever told him that one. Probably ly his favorite moment in AEW history. EDIT 2: Karl Anderson vs Moxley for the NJPW US title came from nowhere. Didn't seem right not to have a Mox promo in there. EDIT 3: A positive comment... Britt Baker's Saudi blood money comment might be the most savage inter-promotional shot across the bow ever. I actually didn't think the crowd was as hot as I expected for a first real show back on the road in front of fans. It was OK, but other than the sing-along to "Judas", complete with fan run-in and Jericho taking a swing at him and then incorporating it into his promo, I was surprised at how little the full crowd added over the Daley's Place shows. They had their moments, but I expected more fire from them. I was thinking Cody and QT killed the crowd right out of the gate, and Cody booking himself in the first match back was so Cody Hearst Helmsley of him. Britt Baker is awesome and that line was so savage and probably crossing the line that I expect Adam Cole to go through a table on the next 18 NXTs. WWE really had a remarkably bad day. Somehow they let AEW get back on the road before them. Due to a "clerical error", AEW gets a former WWE star to make a surprise appearance on that show. Britt Baker zings them good. And this is all hours after finding out that this week's Raw had the worst ratings ever. The old Vince would've been apocalyptic, but I actually wonder if senile Vince even understands exactly the extent of what happened. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 8th, 2021 05:51 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1379th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: I thought last night's show was very good, with a predictably hot crowd. The negatives were the opening match, because strap matches are inherently ridiculous, and Cody is only half as good as he thinks he is. The Pinacle vs Inner Circle match seemed very flat, probably because they have wrestled a few matches now, and this one seemed pointless. Konnan feuding with Tully seems to have been pulled from nowhere. I get why Konnan is there, but I don't see why Tully has a personal issue with him since they are from two completely different eras. Jericho facing the Pinacle in a gauntlet match? AEW rarely book themselves into a corner, but here either old man Jericho defeats the entire Pinacle, or he loses early and we don't get the Jericho MJF match. Usually our would expect DQs and other shenanigans, but AEW defines itself by not using those crutches. Maybe they will find a creative way around this and prove me wrong. Don't get me wrong, this show was a solid B+ and I'm only pointing out the negatives because my Khan money didn't arrive this week. EDIT: They used the old school playground Bangkok gag. Eye roll. Vince will be so mad that none of writers have ever told him that one. Probably ly his favorite moment in AEW history. EDIT 2: Karl Anderson vs Moxley for the NJPW US title came from nowhere. Didn't seem right not to have a Mox promo in there. EDIT 3: A positive comment... Britt Baker's Saudi blood money comment might be the most savage inter-promotional shot across the bow ever. I actually didn't think the crowd was as hot as I expected for a first real show back on the road in front of fans. It was OK, but other than the sing-along to "Judas", complete with fan run-in and Jericho taking a swing at him and then incorporating it into his promo, I was surprised at how little the full crowd added over the Daley's Place shows. They had their moments, but I expected more fire from them. I was thinking Cody and QT killed the crowd right out of the gate, and Cody booking himself in the first match back was so Cody Hearst Helmsley of him. Britt Baker is awesome and that line was so savage and probably crossing the line that I expect Adam Cole to go through a table on the next 18 NXTs. WWE really had a remarkably bad day. Somehow they let AEW get back on the road before them. Due to a "clerical error", AEW gets a former WWE star to make a surprise appearance on that show. Britt Baker zings them good. And this is all hours after finding out that this week's Raw had the worst ratings ever. The old Vince would've been apocalyptic, but I actually wonder if senile Vince even understands exactly the extent of what happened. Vince is trying to figure out why Dave Chappelle won't accept his offer to work on the creative team. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2021 07:38 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1380th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Brian Pillman, Jr.’s contract with MLW expired yesterday and he has signed an exclusive AEW contract now. I would expect a bigger push. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2021 07:42 pm PM Quote Reply 1381st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: One of the problems of trying to keep everything straight across different promotions reared its head last night. I think most people know Impact isn't broadcast live, but that makes it hard to keep continuity. Kenny Omega has had his new facial hair on the past two Dynamites, but on Impact he still looks the way he did a month ago.. when Impact was filmed. Facial hair might not be a big deal, but if you try to integrate even two shows, let alone the five or so that are loosely working together via the "forbidden door" there is always a risk that anything that is taped can break the continuity. They clearly weren't thinking "Omega has some unaired Impact episodes with different facial hair, so we can't do that." ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2021 07:51 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1382nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: One of the problems of trying to keep everything straight across different promotions reared its head last night. I think most people know Impact isn't broadcast live, but that makes it hard to keep continuity. Kenny Omega has had his new facial hair on the past two Dynamites, but on Impact he still looks the way he did a month ago.. when Impact was filmed. Facial hair might not be a big deal, but if you try to integrate even two shows, let alone the five or so that are loosely working together via the "forbidden door" there is always a risk that anything that is taped can break the continuity. They clearly weren't thinking "Omega has some unaired Impact episodes with different facial hair, so we can't do that." I can’t imagine anyone even remotely caring about that, and Impact has never pretended to be live. As long as they keep the continuity of the angles straight, which isn’t difficult considering there is little real interaction between the shows, I think everyone is fine with it. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2021 09:40 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1383rd Post One Fan Gang Joined: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 Location: Posts: 16317 Status: Offline Mana: I recall an episode from that Lonesome Dove western series that Bret Hart appeared on at one time. I wasn't following the series but it happened to be on one week. I saw one scene where someone had been left out to die in the hot sun and was found by someone caring for his injuries. As they switch back and forth between shots, you can see the scene was a mix of edits between the victim having a legitimate beard growth and other times where the beard was painted on, probably filmed a few days or a week prior. Timelines are juxtaposed so much in this world that there is almost no "real time" standard that can be applied except in one's own mental storyboard. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2021 06:18 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1384th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Josh Barnett was interviewed on Sean Waltman’s podcast and spoke at length about heat between he and Jim Ross and the Young Bucks dating from their time calling NJPW on AXS TV. Barnett says that the Bucks got it into their heads that Barnett and JR were burying them on commentary and couldn’t be convinced otherwise. Barnett fired back and said the Bucks didn’t understand how to be heels and we’re too concerned about being cool, so when Barnett would call them out for cheating the Bucks would act like marks and take it personally. He also said that he and JR actually covered for them repeatedly in trying to explain away their botched spots and why their big moves were always kicked out of. They would make up things to try to protect their finishers as strong when they never resulted in a win, and said that the Bucks should’ve appreciated that because the truth was they just “wanted to get their shit in” and had no psychology. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2021 06:41 pm PM Quote Reply 1385th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Josh Barnett was interviewed on Sean Waltman’s podcast and spoke at length about heat between he and Jim Ross and the Young Bucks dating from their time calling NJPW on AXS TV. Barnett says that the Bucks got it into their heads that Barnett and JR were burying them on commentary and couldn’t be convinced otherwise. Barnett fired back and said the Bucks didn’t understand how to be heels and we’re too concerned about being cool, so when Barnett would call them out for cheating the Bucks would act like marks and take it personally. He also said that he and JR actually covered for them repeatedly in trying to explain away their botched spots and why their big moves were always kicked out of. They would make up things to try to protect their finishers as strong when they never resulted in a win, and said that the Bucks should’ve appreciated that because the truth was they just “wanted to get their shit in” and had no psychology. What's a Josh Barnett? Last edited on Wed Jul 14th, 2021 06:41 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2021 07:10 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1386th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Josh Barnett was interviewed on Sean Waltman’s podcast and spoke at length about heat between he and Jim Ross and the Young Bucks dating from their time calling NJPW on AXS TV. Barnett says that the Bucks got it into their heads that Barnett and JR were burying them on commentary and couldn’t be convinced otherwise. Barnett fired back and said the Bucks didn’t understand how to be heels and we’re too concerned about being cool, so when Barnett would call them out for cheating the Bucks would act like marks and take it personally. He also said that he and JR actually covered for them repeatedly in trying to explain away their botched spots and why their big moves were always kicked out of. They would make up things to try to protect their finishers as strong when they never resulted in a win, and said that the Bucks should’ve appreciated that because the truth was they just “wanted to get their shit in” and had no psychology. I think the Young Bucks are just awful. To be honest, when they were in TNA and wrestling the Motor City Machine Guns every night, I thought they had a great future and then they left to basically become indy wrestlers. It is at that point where everything changed for them, and I attribute that to them being their own boss and booking their own matches their own way. As Barnett says, pretty much every match I saw them wrestle in Japan was without psychology, tons of botched spots that nobody in WWE would ever get away with amongst the internet crowd, and all they wanted to do was get all of their spots in. I'm sure there were good matches I didn't see. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2021 07:13 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1387th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Josh Barnett was interviewed on Sean Waltman’s podcast and spoke at length about heat between he and Jim Ross and the Young Bucks dating from their time calling NJPW on AXS TV. Barnett says that the Bucks got it into their heads that Barnett and JR were burying them on commentary and couldn’t be convinced otherwise. Barnett fired back and said the Bucks didn’t understand how to be heels and we’re too concerned about being cool, so when Barnett would call them out for cheating the Bucks would act like marks and take it personally. He also said that he and JR actually covered for them repeatedly in trying to explain away their botched spots and why their big moves were always kicked out of. They would make up things to try to protect their finishers as strong when they never resulted in a win, and said that the Bucks should’ve appreciated that because the truth was they just “wanted to get their shit in” and had no psychology. What's a Josh Barnett? Barnett never accomplished as much in wrestling as the Bucks have, but he knows what he's talking about. Watch an entire card where the wrestlers are doing things the right way and then watch a Young Bucks match. It will be painfully obvious. With all of my negativity spewed, I also know that the Bucks are the most successful tag team in the history of the sport because the only thing that matters at the end of the day is money. And they've earned the most. Not saying they've DRAWN the most, but they've been paid more than any tag team I can ever think of and they have been able to keep that income flowing. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2021 07:28 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1388th Post broke Joined: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 Location: Bolton, ON Posts: 3451 Status: Offline Mana: I always thought the Bucks did too much in their matches. Strictly personal opinion. ____________________ Comic Saaaaaannnsss Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2021 08:56 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1389th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Josh Barnett was interviewed on Sean Waltman’s podcast and spoke at length about heat between he and Jim Ross and the Young Bucks dating from their time calling NJPW on AXS TV. Barnett says that the Bucks got it into their heads that Barnett and JR were burying them on commentary and couldn’t be convinced otherwise. Barnett fired back and said the Bucks didn’t understand how to be heels and we’re too concerned about being cool, so when Barnett would call them out for cheating the Bucks would act like marks and take it personally. He also said that he and JR actually covered for them repeatedly in trying to explain away their botched spots and why their big moves were always kicked out of. They would make up things to try to protect their finishers as strong when they never resulted in a win, and said that the Bucks should’ve appreciated that because the truth was they just “wanted to get their shit in” and had no psychology. What's a Josh Barnett? Aside from a great MMA fighter, the best pro wrestling color commentator I've heard in the business in 20 years. And that Mauro Ranallo-Josh Barnett team was as good as anything pro wrestling has ever heard in terms of credibility. It's not even close. Barnett even pulled some decent shows out of Jim Ross at a time when Ross was 100 times less interested than he even is now in AEW. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2021 09:02 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1390th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Josh Barnett was interviewed on Sean Waltman’s podcast and spoke at length about heat between he and Jim Ross and the Young Bucks dating from their time calling NJPW on AXS TV. Barnett says that the Bucks got it into their heads that Barnett and JR were burying them on commentary and couldn’t be convinced otherwise. Barnett fired back and said the Bucks didn’t understand how to be heels and we’re too concerned about being cool, so when Barnett would call them out for cheating the Bucks would act like marks and take it personally. He also said that he and JR actually covered for them repeatedly in trying to explain away their botched spots and why their big moves were always kicked out of. They would make up things to try to protect their finishers as strong when they never resulted in a win, and said that the Bucks should’ve appreciated that because the truth was they just “wanted to get their shit in” and had no psychology. What's a Josh Barnett? Barnett never accomplished as much in wrestling as the Bucks have, but he knows what he's talking about. Watch an entire card where the wrestlers are doing things the right way and then watch a Young Bucks match. It will be painfully obvious. With all of my negativity spewed, I also know that the Bucks are the most successful tag team in the history of the sport because the only thing that matters at the end of the day is money. And they've earned the most. Not saying they've DRAWN the most, but they've been paid more than any tag team I can ever think of and they have been able to keep that income flowing. They built an empire and took what Colt Cabana started in terms of self-promotion and merchandising on the indy circuit to a different level. They're marketing geniuses and wound up as EVPs of legitimate competition to WWE. It's been remarkable. And if you include non-wrestling income, they still might not be as rich as the Briscoe Bros., who are legitimate millionaires from their farming and landscaping businesses. It's good for the business when you have entrepreneurial and self-sufficient talents who can tell Vince to fuck himself. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2021 10:05 pm PM Quote Reply 1391st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Josh Barnett was interviewed on Sean Waltman’s podcast and spoke at length about heat between he and Jim Ross and the Young Bucks dating from their time calling NJPW on AXS TV. Barnett says that the Bucks got it into their heads that Barnett and JR were burying them on commentary and couldn’t be convinced otherwise. Barnett fired back and said the Bucks didn’t understand how to be heels and we’re too concerned about being cool, so when Barnett would call them out for cheating the Bucks would act like marks and take it personally. He also said that he and JR actually covered for them repeatedly in trying to explain away their botched spots and why their big moves were always kicked out of. They would make up things to try to protect their finishers as strong when they never resulted in a win, and said that the Bucks should’ve appreciated that because the truth was they just “wanted to get their shit in” and had no psychology. What's a Josh Barnett? Aside from a great MMA fighter, the best pro wrestling color commentator I've heard in the business in 20 years. And that Mauro Ranallo-Josh Barnett team was as good as anything pro wrestling has ever heard in terms of credibility. It's not even close. Barnett even pulled some decent shows out of Jim Ross at a time when Ross was 100 times less interested than he even is now in AEW. I watch zero MMA and a lot of wrestling, but he's just a name to me. I've probably heard him somewhere, but on my radar, he's a nobody complaining from the outside about people who are being successful today. He might even be right, but that's not the point. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2021 10:50 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1392nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Josh Barnett was interviewed on Sean Waltman’s podcast and spoke at length about heat between he and Jim Ross and the Young Bucks dating from their time calling NJPW on AXS TV. Barnett says that the Bucks got it into their heads that Barnett and JR were burying them on commentary and couldn’t be convinced otherwise. Barnett fired back and said the Bucks didn’t understand how to be heels and we’re too concerned about being cool, so when Barnett would call them out for cheating the Bucks would act like marks and take it personally. He also said that he and JR actually covered for them repeatedly in trying to explain away their botched spots and why their big moves were always kicked out of. They would make up things to try to protect their finishers as strong when they never resulted in a win, and said that the Bucks should’ve appreciated that because the truth was they just “wanted to get their shit in” and had no psychology. What's a Josh Barnett? Aside from a great MMA fighter, the best pro wrestling color commentator I've heard in the business in 20 years. And that Mauro Ranallo-Josh Barnett team was as good as anything pro wrestling has ever heard in terms of credibility. It's not even close. Barnett even pulled some decent shows out of Jim Ross at a time when Ross was 100 times less interested than he even is now in AEW. I watch zero MMA and a lot of wrestling, but he's just a name to me. I've probably heard him somewhere, but on my radar, he's a nobody complaining from the outside about people who are being successful today. He might even be right, but that's not the point. I have no idea what your point is then. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2021 11:39 pm PM Quote Reply 1393rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Josh Barnett was interviewed on Sean Waltman’s podcast and spoke at length about heat between he and Jim Ross and the Young Bucks dating from their time calling NJPW on AXS TV. Barnett says that the Bucks got it into their heads that Barnett and JR were burying them on commentary and couldn’t be convinced otherwise. Barnett fired back and said the Bucks didn’t understand how to be heels and we’re too concerned about being cool, so when Barnett would call them out for cheating the Bucks would act like marks and take it personally. He also said that he and JR actually covered for them repeatedly in trying to explain away their botched spots and why their big moves were always kicked out of. They would make up things to try to protect their finishers as strong when they never resulted in a win, and said that the Bucks should’ve appreciated that because the truth was they just “wanted to get their shit in” and had no psychology. What's a Josh Barnett? Aside from a great MMA fighter, the best pro wrestling color commentator I've heard in the business in 20 years. And that Mauro Ranallo-Josh Barnett team was as good as anything pro wrestling has ever heard in terms of credibility. It's not even close. Barnett even pulled some decent shows out of Jim Ross at a time when Ross was 100 times less interested than he even is now in AEW. I watch zero MMA and a lot of wrestling, but he's just a name to me. I've probably heard him somewhere, but on my radar, he's a nobody complaining from the outside about people who are being successful today. He might even be right, but that's not the point. I have no idea what your point is then. He's entitled to his opinion, but it means nothing. The Bucks have proved that whatever they are doing, they are doing it right. It's like critically analysing the number one song in the charts, or the number one movie at the box office. It doesn't matter if it technically isn't good, or if an expert analyst from the outside has legitimate criticisms, the people have spoken, and this is the what the people want today. Last edited on Wed Jul 14th, 2021 11:40 pm by Kriss ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2021 12:45 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1394th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Josh Barnett was interviewed on Sean Waltman’s podcast and spoke at length about heat between he and Jim Ross and the Young Bucks dating from their time calling NJPW on AXS TV. Barnett says that the Bucks got it into their heads that Barnett and JR were burying them on commentary and couldn’t be convinced otherwise. Barnett fired back and said the Bucks didn’t understand how to be heels and we’re too concerned about being cool, so when Barnett would call them out for cheating the Bucks would act like marks and take it personally. He also said that he and JR actually covered for them repeatedly in trying to explain away their botched spots and why their big moves were always kicked out of. They would make up things to try to protect their finishers as strong when they never resulted in a win, and said that the Bucks should’ve appreciated that because the truth was they just “wanted to get their shit in” and had no psychology. What's a Josh Barnett? Aside from a great MMA fighter, the best pro wrestling color commentator I've heard in the business in 20 years. And that Mauro Ranallo-Josh Barnett team was as good as anything pro wrestling has ever heard in terms of credibility. It's not even close. Barnett even pulled some decent shows out of Jim Ross at a time when Ross was 100 times less interested than he even is now in AEW. I watch zero MMA and a lot of wrestling, but he's just a name to me. I've probably heard him somewhere, but on my radar, he's a nobody complaining from the outside about people who are being successful today. He might even be right, but that's not the point. I have no idea what your point is then. He's entitled to his opinion, but it means nothing. The Bucks have proved that whatever they are doing, they are doing it right. It's like critically analysing the number one song in the charts, or the number one movie at the box office. It doesn't matter if it technically isn't good, or if an expert analyst from the outside has legitimate criticisms, the people have spoken, and this is the what the people want today. Well they’re not as successful in the business as Vince is and people justifiably criticize him all the time. This is a pretty insane statement that because they’ve had some success they’re above all criticism and can’t do anything better. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2021 09:10 am PM Quote Reply 1395th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Josh Barnett was interviewed on Sean Waltman’s podcast and spoke at length about heat between he and Jim Ross and the Young Bucks dating from their time calling NJPW on AXS TV. Barnett says that the Bucks got it into their heads that Barnett and JR were burying them on commentary and couldn’t be convinced otherwise. Barnett fired back and said the Bucks didn’t understand how to be heels and we’re too concerned about being cool, so when Barnett would call them out for cheating the Bucks would act like marks and take it personally. He also said that he and JR actually covered for them repeatedly in trying to explain away their botched spots and why their big moves were always kicked out of. They would make up things to try to protect their finishers as strong when they never resulted in a win, and said that the Bucks should’ve appreciated that because the truth was they just “wanted to get their shit in” and had no psychology. What's a Josh Barnett? Aside from a great MMA fighter, the best pro wrestling color commentator I've heard in the business in 20 years. And that Mauro Ranallo-Josh Barnett team was as good as anything pro wrestling has ever heard in terms of credibility. It's not even close. Barnett even pulled some decent shows out of Jim Ross at a time when Ross was 100 times less interested than he even is now in AEW. I watch zero MMA and a lot of wrestling, but he's just a name to me. I've probably heard him somewhere, but on my radar, he's a nobody complaining from the outside about people who are being successful today. He might even be right, but that's not the point. I have no idea what your point is then. He's entitled to his opinion, but it means nothing. The Bucks have proved that whatever they are doing, they are doing it right. It's like critically analysing the number one song in the charts, or the number one movie at the box office. It doesn't matter if it technically isn't good, or if an expert analyst from the outside has legitimate criticisms, the people have spoken, and this is the what the people want today. Well they’re not as successful in the business as Vince is and people justifiably criticize him all the time. This is a pretty insane statement that because they’ve had some success they’re above all criticism and can’t do anything better. Do I keep defending my flippant remark and create a vortex? Yes. Constructive criticism is fine, but he's basically just saying that he doesn't like something which is both popular and successful. My basic point was that Barnett sounds a wee bit bitter that all he has left in wrestling is a ring with no ropes. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 16th, 2021 01:05 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1396th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: In their return to Wednesday’s and against the NBA finals, Dynamite drew 1,025,000 viewers last night and did a .40 in the 18-49 demo. All things considered, this might be Dynamite’s most impressive rating ever. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jul 20th, 2021 12:56 pm PM Quote Reply 1397th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Britt Baker posted a video on Twitter promoting Wednesday's match with Nyla Rose. She was visiting her sensei, John Kreese, including Martin Kove appearing in character. Awesome! <A HREF="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1417225689321836546" TARGET="_blank">A> ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jul 20th, 2021 03:33 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1398th Post Married Jo Joined: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 Location: Hickory NC Posts: 7327 Status: Offline Mana: that was pretty good lol ____________________ Well, Im of the opinion that one wouldnt actually have to eat the corn out of Chynas shit to know that nothing good could come of it. - Portalesman Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jul 20th, 2021 05:21 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1399th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: Pretty sure that Martin Kove did that one on the fly. He was even confused when it came time to do DMD - he was trying to spell it. And I don't think he ever said Britt Baker or AEW in his promo. But he sure put over Cobra Kai! ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 21st, 2021 09:56 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1400th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: Rumor going around that Chick Magnet Punk ( shootz name CM Punk) is in talks with this promotion. |
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Posted: Wed Jul 21st, 2021 10:12 pm PM Quote Reply 1401st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: Rumor going around that Chick Magnet Punk ( shootz name CM Punk) is in talks with this promotion. If Tony Khan could bring in Punk and Bryan, AEW could really move the needle, and you know it won't come down to the money. Sean Ross Sapp is reporting the Punk story, and he's getting the reputation for getting scoops at the moment. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 22nd, 2021 12:12 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1402nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/912.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu912')">freebirdsforever2019a> wrote: Rumor going around that Chick Magnet Punk ( shootz name CM Punk) is in talks with this promotion. If Tony Khan could bring in Punk and Bryan, AEW could really move the needle, and you know it won't come down to the money. Sean Ross Sapp is reporting the Punk story, and he's getting the reputation for getting scoops at the moment. I think in reply Vince should call up Adam Cole and have him lose to Riddick Moss, who I'm at least 65% sure has not been released yet. And if he has been then even better, because "anything can happen in WWE". Swerve! ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 22nd, 2021 02:20 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1403rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Nick Gage is in AEW. I knew something was up when Don Callis name-dropped him on Impact. So on Saturday night Gage will be having a death match for the GCW title against Zack Ryder, and on Wednesday he’ll be having one with Chris Jericho on AEW TV. Strange times we live in. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 22nd, 2021 02:47 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1404th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: NJPW’s Hikuleo, the giant son of Haku, has made his AEW debut, watching from the crowd as Darby Allin wrestled Wheeler Yuta. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 22nd, 2021 03:02 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1405th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: The greatest moment in wrestling history? <A HREF="https://twitter.com/aew/status/1418008887123456006?s=21" TARGET="_blank"> ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 22nd, 2021 03:12 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1406th Post freebirdsforever2019 Joined: Sat Nov 23rd, 2019 Location: Posts: 1197 Status: Offline Mana: I've seen a few things on Twitter that Bryan Danielson has signed with AEW. <A HREF="https://www.ringsidenews.com/2021/07/21/daniel-bryan-reportedly-signs-with-aew/" TARGET="_blank">Daniel Bryan Reportedly Signs With AEW (ringsidenews.com)A> <A HREF="https://cultaholic.com/posts/report-daniel-bryan-has-signed-contract-with-aew" TARGET="_blank">Report: Daniel Bryan Has Signed Contract With AEW | CultaholicA> Last edited on Thu Jul 22nd, 2021 03:16 am by freebirdsforever2019 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 22nd, 2021 03:18 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1407th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: In a night of debuts, Chavo Guerrero, Jr. is now the “executive consultant” for Andrade el Idolo. Andrade was brought into AEW by Vicki Guerrero in the storyline. Chavo just literally got a bigger reaction than Goldberg did on Raw, no exaggeration. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 22nd, 2021 05:01 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1408th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Lance Archer best Jon Moxley in the main event to regain the IWGP U.S. title after chokeslamming Moxley off the apron through 2 barbed wire boards. Hikuleo came into the ring to face off with Archer to close the show and set up a title match next week. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 22nd, 2021 09:34 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1409th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Thunder Rosa has announced that she's now signed with AEW. That's an interesting development, and for the NWA's sake they better hope they stay on good terms and continue to be able to use her. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Jul 25th, 2021 05:35 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1410th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Konnan says he spoke to Tony Khan and asked him straight up if he could book Bryan Danielson for AAA, meaning that he wanted to know if AEW had officially signed him. He said Khan said, “You know I can’t tell you that”, but smiled in a way that led Konnan to believe he had. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Jul 26th, 2021 10:44 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1411th Post The Ultimate Sin HALL OF FAMER Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown, Sri Lanka Posts: 11174 Status: Offline Mana: Riddle me this, how good or bad is AEW? I tried to watch it once, but I couldn't get into it. I hate that three guys hugging on the floor waiting for the 4th guy to climb the ropes and jump on them bullshit. I've bitched about it before, but I can't suspend disbelief that much. If they had their backs to him while he climbed and snuck an occasional peek I could buy it, but 3 guys watching some douchebag climb the ropes to splash them and not getting out of the way is too fucking stupid for me. Anyway, I came across AWE Botches on the Youtubes, and fuck is that shit embarrassing. I realize that's a compilation over time, but there are at least 14 minutes of God-awful fuck ups and AEW hasn't been in business that long. Jackie Gayda had a fuck up like that and was never seen in a match again. I've watched a shit ton of wrestling in my days and I've never seen so much horseshit. Is AEWas bad as it seems? ____________________ May I offer you some salt and vinegar chips? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Mon Jul 26th, 2021 11:15 pm PM Quote Reply 1412th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: WWE have so few botches because it's hard to botch punch-kick style. All wrestling is pretty ridiculous. You'll never like it if you don't want to like it. I don't think AEW is for you. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2021 12:45 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1413th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/30.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu30')">The Ultimate Sina> wrote: Riddle me this, how good or bad is AEW? I tried to watch it once, but I couldn't get into it. I hate that three guys hugging on the floor waiting for the 4th guy to climb the ropes and jump on them bullshit. I've bitched about it before, but I can't suspend disbelief that much. If they had their backs to him while he climbed and snuck an occasional peek I could buy it, but 3 guys watching some douchebag climb the ropes to splash them and not getting out of the way is too fucking stupid for me. Anyway, I came across AWE Botches on the Youtubes, and fuck is that shit embarrassing. I realize that's a compilation over time, but there are at least 14 minutes of God-awful fuck ups and AEW hasn't been in business that long. Jackie Gayda had a fuck up like that and was never seen in a match again. I've watched a shit ton of wrestling in my days and I've never seen so much horseshit. Is AEWas bad as it seems? If you search out videos of botches, you’ll probably find them. WWE has been editing there’s out during the Covid era with no fans, which are pretty easy to spot sometimes. their production team is also a little quicker to cut shots as they see a botch developing. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2021 01:48 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1414th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Melter says that the original plan was for Andrade to confront Omega at the end of Slammiversary instead of Jay White, but they couldn’t come to financial terms. The angle would’ve seen the Andrade-Omega build for Triplemania play out on Impact since AEW has no interest in furthering that storyline, and Impact would’ve heavily promoted AAA. With the deal dead, it was decided that Impact would instead help promote the White-Finlay match that crosses over with NJPW, and also tease a Bullet Club civil war between White and Omega in the process, which could continue in AEW and NJPW down the line. White lives in Florida when he’s in the U.S. and was asking for less money to appear. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2021 02:26 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1415th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/30.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu30')">The Ultimate Sina> wrote: Riddle me this, how good or bad is AEW? I tried to watch it once, but I couldn't get into it. I hate that three guys hugging on the floor waiting for the 4th guy to climb the ropes and jump on them bullshit. I've bitched about it before, but I can't suspend disbelief that much. If they had their backs to him while he climbed and snuck an occasional peek I could buy it, but 3 guys watching some douchebag climb the ropes to splash them and not getting out of the way is too fucking stupid for me. Anyway, I came across AWE Botches on the Youtubes, and fuck is that shit embarrassing. I realize that's a compilation over time, but there are at least 14 minutes of God-awful fuck ups and AEW hasn't been in business that long. Jackie Gayda had a fuck up like that and was never seen in a match again. I've watched a shit ton of wrestling in my days and I've never seen so much horseshit. Is AEWas bad as it seems? If you search out videos of botches, you’ll probably find them. WWE has been editing there’s out during the Covid era with no fans, which are pretty easy to spot sometimes. their production team is also a little quicker to cut shots as they see a botch developing. There was that time when the girls tag match went to commercial, and they stopped wrestling and were standing in the ring just talking and going over what their next spots were going to be with each other. Forget about AEW and botches, nothing is worse than that. I agree that there are too many fuckups for AEW but they all wrestle that spot monkey style. Like Sin said earlier in a more roundabout way, what makes you great is how you sell things like this. You can't just have three guys stand around looking at the fourth going to the top rope...those three should be slugging it out, back to the ring and have some sort of cue to know when to turn. They practice spots all the time, what they need to do is practice spacing of the spots just as much, and pacing of the match, and properly selling a move. Instead, lets drop a guy on his head for a 2.5 count, then have him pop up after that and do his own move. When you get a 2.5 count, that guy should be half dead - not ready to work. If he's in that crisp condition, have him kick out at 1. There are nowhere near enough kickouts at 1 anymore. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2021 05:51 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1416th Post Benlen 5x fantasy baseball champ Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Milpitas, California USA Posts: 15478 Status: Online Mana: Where do you AEW? Is it streaming? ____________________ Only thing harder than achieving excellence is maintaining it. Dream Well. It may come true. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2021 09:49 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1417th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: The NY Post obtained this quote from Tony Khan regarding Punk and Danielson: "I can’t comment on those two guys, but I think there are certainly a lot of exciting rumors right now." If he didn't sign them, then he's committing suicide by teasing that he might have. I think this has to be a done deal. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2021 02:28 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1418th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: It is hard to take the elite and aew serious..botched dunk attempt and corny entrance Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2021 02:30 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1419th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: Wouldn't be AEw if we didn't get the 3 dudes hold on each other while a page goes to the top for a moonsault Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2021 02:33 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1420th Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: Good match.. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2021 02:34 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1421st Post krazykid18 The Prophet Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Posts: 2619 Status: Offline Mana: Andrande still can't speak... Vince probably so the mexican dude on nxt and was like fuck andrande Last edited on Thu Jul 29th, 2021 02:35 am by krazykid18 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2021 03:54 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1422nd Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/27.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu27')">krazykid18a> wrote: Andrande still can't speak... Vince probably so the mexican dude on nxt and was like fuck andrande You’re smoking the high quality shit tonight, it shows in your spelling and grammar (and thought process). ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2021 05:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1423rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: I never thought I’d see Jericho wrestle with pains of glass and light tubes. This match was quite as violent as Gage’s match with Cardona this weekend, but it was close. Jericho bladed a ton, which is a more controlled bleeding obviously, but he got a shitload of glass shards cutting up his back too. In the end though, Gage jobs to Cardona and Jericho within 5 days of each other. I think that’s a street cred killer. But we got to see the greatest advertising campaign in wrestling history: a Domino’s commercial aired picture-in-picture as Gage repeatedly sliced Jericho with a pizza cutter. Gage needs that exclusive endorsement deal! MJF announced that Labor #3 will be the return of…Juventud Guerrera! That doesn’t seem quite as intimidating. I can’t imagine what this guy looks like 20 years later. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2021 06:10 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1424th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Meltzer and PWInsider are already both reporting that Nick Gage’s appearance tonight is not likely to be a one-off and the plan was always for him to be back. MJF is trash-talking him on Twitter for not getting the job done, so I think it’s safe to say he’ll be back as a babyface getting his shots in at MJF. AEW has to be thrilled with the crowd reaction and Twitter buzz that Gage provided. He was received like a huge star. I think indy star Gran Akuma probably said it best: “Jericho/Gage over delivered and then some. For years we've seen major league companies bring in people with a big underground following, strip them of what makes them special, and then act like they're nothing special. This ruled because Nick Gage got to be Nick Gage.” ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2021 06:32 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1425th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: MJF announced that Labor #3 will be the return of…Juventud Guerrera! That doesn’t seem quite as intimidating. I can’t imagine what this guy looks like 20 years later. Funny you say this. Juvi randomly popped up on my Instagram feed because I follow Jericho and he mentioned something about a very old match they were involved in. Juvi looked decent, in solid shape, but I can't imagine he can move the way he did. But then again, Jericho doesn't even look like himself physically anymore and he does just fine. I bet they have a better match than he had with Gage. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2021 07:02 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1426th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: MJF announced that Labor #3 will be the return of…Juventud Guerrera! That doesn’t seem quite as intimidating. I can’t imagine what this guy looks like 20 years later. Funny you say this. Juvi randomly popped up on my Instagram feed because I follow Jericho and he mentioned something about a very old match they were involved in. Juvi looked decent, in solid shape, but I can't imagine he can move the way he did. But then again, Jericho doesn't even look like himself physically anymore and he does just fine. I bet they have a better match than he had with Gage. Anyone who says AEW storytelling is no better or more long-range than WWE's...2 years ago Jericho and MJF were having a friendly conversation and Jericho dropped Juvi's name and told MJF to Google it. It may very well have been an ad-lib, but it certainly was a line written by Jericho and it was a call-back to Jericho's WWF debut when The Rock made fun of Jericho's feud with Juvi. 2 years later, AEW is using this as part of an angle and dug up the old footage to tie it all together. I don't think anything like this has EVER been done by WWE in 60 years. No one would even bring that to Vince's desk without the fear of being farted on and fired on the spot. AEW is doing "Breaking Bad" shit, and WWE is one long "According to Jim" re-run. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 30th, 2021 06:57 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1427th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tonight Frankie Kazarian made his return to Impact for the first time since May 2014. Kazarian continued his "Elite Hunter" gimmick from AEW and attacked Kenny Omega. Next week Kazarian will team with arch-rivals Sami Calihan and Eddie Edwards against Omega and the Good Brothers as they unite against The Elite. Unrelated to AEW, but Francine of all people showed up via Facetime when Brian Myers tried to recruit her to be his tag team partner in a mixed tag tournament against Tommy Dreamer and his partner. Francine turned him down but thanked Myers for spending all that money on her Patreon. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 30th, 2021 07:00 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1428th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: But we got to see the greatest advertising campaign in wrestling history: a Domino’s commercial aired picture-in-picture as Gage repeatedly sliced Jericho with a pizza cutter. Gage needs that exclusive endorsement deal! So it turns out Domino's was not amused and Nick Gage's dream of an endorsement deal is probably dead. Domino's Director of Public Relations was made aware of the situation and released a statement: “We share the concerns expressed about this incident and the content of this TV-14 rated program, and are assessing our advertising presence on it going forward." So Nick Gage cost AEW a major sponsor right out of the gate. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 30th, 2021 11:25 am PM Quote Reply 1429th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: But we got to see the greatest advertising campaign in wrestling history: a Domino’s commercial aired picture-in-picture as Gage repeatedly sliced Jericho with a pizza cutter. Gage needs that exclusive endorsement deal! So it turns out Domino's was not amused and Nick Gage's dream of an endorsement deal is probably dead. Domino's Director of Public Relations was made aware of the situation and released a statement: “We share the concerns expressed about this incident and the content of this TV-14 rated program, and are assessing our advertising presence on it going forward." So Nick Gage cost AEW a major sponsor right out of the gate. The official Pabst Blue Ribbon account responded with "Yo @aewontnt let us get those spots" among a series of tweets referencing pizza-cutter-gate. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Jul 30th, 2021 11:44 am PM Quote Reply 1430th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: MJF announced that Labor #3 will be the return of…Juventud Guerrera! That doesn’t seem quite as intimidating. I can’t imagine what this guy looks like 20 years later. Funny you say this. Juvi randomly popped up on my Instagram feed because I follow Jericho and he mentioned something about a very old match they were involved in. Juvi looked decent, in solid shape, but I can't imagine he can move the way he did. But then again, Jericho doesn't even look like himself physically anymore and he does just fine. I bet they have a better match than he had with Gage. Anyone who says AEW storytelling is no better or more long-range than WWE's...2 years ago Jericho and MJF were having a friendly conversation and Jericho dropped Juvi's name and told MJF to Google it. It may very well have been an ad-lib, but it certainly was a line written by Jericho and it was a call-back to Jericho's WWF debut when The Rock made fun of Jericho's feud with Juvi. 2 years later, AEW is using this as part of an angle and dug up the old footage to tie it all together. I don't think anything like this has EVER been done by WWE in 60 years. No one would even bring that to Vince's desk without the fear of being farted on and fired on the spot. AEW is doing "Breaking Bad" shit, and WWE is one long "According to Jim" re-run. The good folks at Classics are hilarious with their hate-watching thread (they secretly love AEW) every week. Some people have watched too much WWE that their way of thinking has been messed with. If the opening match last night had been in WWE, Hangman Page would be recycled back into the mid-card, with nothing having been planned after his loss, and he would be waiting for creative to have something for him while all the sympathy for him dissipated. We won't know until we see it, but I'm almost certain that Page has a story coming out of this match. I'd look for Daniel Bryanson to be the next serious contender to Omega. And if I can be allowed to blow more smoke up Tony Khan's ass. I really like the way that AEW use other company's belts. Some matches and feuds are greatly improved by having a belt involved. If you go the WWE route, though, and have 20 different championships, it becomes too difficult to keep a compelling story going for each one all the time. AEW can just bring in someone else's title when they want to add some spice to a match. They are using the IWGP US title right now, but when they don't need it any more, they don't have to worry about it. They did the same with the NWA women's title, and to a lesser extent, the AAA Mega title. The main event this week did nothing for me, though. Coming so soon after Callihan-Omega and Cardona-Gage (I hardly ever watch GCW but I watched this because of the hype), it's overload for a style I don't enjoy. I worry that it will eventually garner AEW too much negative press. WWE will be waiting behind the scenes to fan the flames of outrage if AEW get too big for their comfort. Bottom line, AEW Dynamite is a good to great show every week. For me, they have taken the things that make WWE, and especially Raw, hard to watch, and flipped them. Long in-ring talking segments multiple times during a show, constant re-matches (from last week or from ten years ago), working against the fans, shaky camera angles, boring punch-kick "wrestling" and more selling than action, the same people on top every week, every month, every year, year after year, the logjam at the top of the card so no one else can break through. All these things turned me off WWE long before AEW came along. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jul 31st, 2021 02:18 pm PM Quote Reply 1431st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Interesting article about the whole Domino's deal by Bix: <A HREF="https://babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/mainstream-reporter-privately-claims" TARGET="_blank">https://babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/mainstream-reporter-privately-claimsA> ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jul 31st, 2021 04:26 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1432nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Interesting article about the whole Domino's deal by Bix: <A HREF="https://babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/mainstream-reporter-privately-claims" TARGET="_blank">https://babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/mainstream-reporter-privately-claimsA> * The CDC still recommends that you stand 6 feet away from Bix articles or you risk catching his virginity, social awkwardness, and unidentifiable skin condition. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Jul 31st, 2021 07:49 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1433rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Karl Anderson and Tama Tonga are engaging in a Twitter war teasing an upcoming Good Brothers vs. GOD match to see who the greatest tag team in Bullet Club history is. Not sure if they’re running their own angle or if this is in the plans for NJPW, Impact, or AEW. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Aug 1st, 2021 08:11 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1434th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tony Khan did an interview on WON discussing the death match. He says he spoke to TNT ahead of time and made them well aware of what would happen, and they didn’t object. He also said that Jericho not only was willing to do all the spots, but came up with a few on his own and was very excited about his first (and probably only) death match. Khan says he doesn’t expect to do another one on TV anytime soon, but Gage could be back before you know it. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Aug 1st, 2021 08:16 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1435th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Booker T. put over Nick Gage huge on his podcast, at least from an old school personality standpoint: “I’ll tell you this. Nick Gage, I have never met this dude before in my life. But I’ll tell you, if everyone in this business had the same thought process as a Nick Gage, the business would be in a much, much better place. We are in an era of social media. We are in an era everybody wants their word out to their followers, they want to post something. This guy, Nick Gage, you pull up photos of this guy, and you’ll never gonna see him smiling in any of them. He’s got the same look on his face in every photo, in every picture I have ever seen him in. There is not a picture of him being happy. It’s a picture of a guy who’s getting ready to go into a deathmatch, each and every night. He’s the real deal. As far as what he does and what he brings to the table. So I cannot disparage him at all. The guys in WWE, Impact Wrestling, AEW – they can learn a whole lot from Nick Gage, and that’s just my opinion. I don’t know a lot about him, but when someone sees something different about you in this business, it’s uncanny. When I see Nick Gage – mind you, I’ve never watched any of his wrestling. I’ve never watched one match. But I know when you look at this dude, he isn’t the guy you’re gonna walk up on and say, ‘What about that wrestling stuff ya’ll do?’ Because he might hit you. He’s the real deal. If everybody walked along that same line and took it as serious as this guy does, it would be a much better place. “I wouldn’t have a deathmatch, but I’m not Chris Jericho. He’s been pretty extreme throughout his career and been willing to throw caution to the wind. I think he may have even done the thumbtack thing before. But for me, it’s not my cup of tea…..I think Gage having a shot on AEW TV, no matter what people think, that’s a big deal for him. I really do. This guy has been the king of the deathmatch, but to make it to primetime and be one of those guys – like New Jack, he didn’t make it to primetime TV. So this guy has put eyes on him, and obviously the brass in AEW think we can get something out of this. I think it could work.” ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Aug 3rd, 2021 04:15 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1436th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/30.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu30')">The Ultimate Sina> wrote: Riddle me this, how good or bad is AEW? I tried to watch it once, but I couldn't get into it. I hate that three guys hugging on the floor waiting for the 4th guy to climb the ropes and jump on them bullshit. I've bitched about it before, but I can't suspend disbelief that much. If they had their backs to him while he climbed and snuck an occasional peek I could buy it, but 3 guys watching some douchebag climb the ropes to splash them and not getting out of the way is too fucking stupid for me. Anyway, I came across AWE Botches on the Youtubes, and fuck is that shit embarrassing. I realize that's a compilation over time, but there are at least 14 minutes of God-awful fuck ups and AEW hasn't been in business that long. Jackie Gayda had a fuck up like that and was never seen in a match again. I've watched a shit ton of wrestling in my days and I've never seen so much horseshit. Is AEWas bad as it seems? If you search out videos of botches, you’ll probably find them. WWE has been editing there’s out during the Covid era with no fans, which are pretty easy to spot sometimes. their production team is also a little quicker to cut shots as they see a botch developing. So on tonight’s Raw, the never-ending feud between Drew McIntyre and Jinder Mahal continues. Why is McIntyre, who was being pushed like Cena during Covid, in this mess I have no idea. But here he is and Shanky is involved. If you don’t know who Shanky is, he makes Giant Gonzalez and Great Khali look like Buddy Rogers. And he’s on TV lumbering around barely able to walk much less get in the ring. And Mahal, Shanky, and Veer get chairs and corner McIntyre, who then is supposed to grab his giant sword (nothing gay here) and fight them off. But he can’t reach it. So they stand there with chairs and wait for him to literally leave the ring and come back in with his sword. And then Mahal just leaves and McIntyre goes to great pains to try not to stab Veer as he headbutts him instead. This takes roughly 65 minutes. All while Shanky stands there with his chair in front of him like he’s hiding a boner. Then McIntyre points his sword at Shanky and Shanky drops his chair and takes roughly 98 minutes to get out of the ring while McIntyre has his sword over his head. And people are going to talk about AEW botches because someone missed a plancha. Get the fuck out. AEW is far from perfect but WWE allows things on TV that I would heckle my 4-year old’s daycare if they put on a play like that. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Aug 4th, 2021 05:18 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1437th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: The former Ever-Rise will return to their indy name of 2.0 and make their AEW debuts tomorrow on Dynamite. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Aug 4th, 2021 05:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1438th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW briefly pulled this week’s episode of Dark in order to delete a Max Caster rap, and then re-uploaded the show without it. The original airing featured Caster making reference to Simon Biles’ mental health, the Duke lacrosse team being falsely accused of rape, Covid PCR tests being fake, and valet Julia Hart’s “feminine odor”. Caster writes his own raps and it’s unclear if anyone approves them ahead of time, but no one from AEW seemed to have a problem with it until it was trashed on Twitter for being “extreme right-wing propaganda” that was misogynistic, anti-science, anti-“believe women”, and a whole host of other awful things. Caster is black and his tag team partner is gay, so he’s not exactly the typical poster-child for the right. The rap was available for several hours before being scrubbed. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Aug 4th, 2021 05:53 pm PM Quote Reply 1439th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW briefly pulled this week’s episode of Dark in order to delete a Max Caster rap, and then re-uploaded the show without it. The original airing featured Caster making reference to Simon Biles’ mental health, the Duke lacrosse team being falsely accused of rape, Covid PCR tests being fake, and valet Julia Hart’s “feminine odor”. Caster writes his own raps and it’s unclear if anyone approves them ahead of time, but no one from AEW seemed to have a problem with it until it was trashed on Twitter for being “extreme right-wing propaganda” that was misogynistic, anti-science, anti-“believe women”, and a whole host of other awful things. Caster is black and his tag team partner is gay, so he’s not exactly the typical poster-child for the right. The rap was available for several hours before being scrubbed. He was flying close to the sun with his raps the past few weeks. I think it was last week he was rapping about getting an Eiffel Tower (if you are too lazy to look it up on Urban Dictionary, it's taking it from behind and giving a blow job while the two guys high-five). I thought that was a bit off when she's only 18 years old. I know he's a heel, but there is always a line, and I guess this time he crossed it. It was always going to happen eventually, and AEW are probably lucky it's wasn't on television. This is worse than Sammy Guevara's joke, and he had to leave TV and get sensitivity training. I read a lot of people on Twitter bitching about two minutes of TV being cut and saying things to the effect of "we'll never get back to the Attitude Era if this keeps happening." Some people will never be happy, but this kind of nonsense was the stuff that deserves to stay in the past. If this edit upsets you (anyone in general, not you srossi), stick on Aaron Lewis and shake your fist at the sky. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 5th, 2021 12:16 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1440th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW briefly pulled this week’s episode of Dark in order to delete a Max Caster rap, and then re-uploaded the show without it. The original airing featured Caster making reference to Simon Biles’ mental health, the Duke lacrosse team being falsely accused of rape, Covid PCR tests being fake, and valet Julia Hart’s “feminine odor”. Caster writes his own raps and it’s unclear if anyone approves them ahead of time, but no one from AEW seemed to have a problem with it until it was trashed on Twitter for being “extreme right-wing propaganda” that was misogynistic, anti-science, anti-“believe women”, and a whole host of other awful things. Caster is black and his tag team partner is gay, so he’s not exactly the typical poster-child for the right. The rap was available for several hours before being scrubbed. He was flying close to the sun with his raps the past few weeks. I think it was last week he was rapping about getting an Eiffel Tower (if you are too lazy to look it up on Urban Dictionary, it's taking it from behind and giving a blow job while the two guys high-five). I thought that was a bit off when she's only 18 years old. I know he's a heel, but there is always a line, and I guess this time he crossed it. It was always going to happen eventually, and AEW are probably lucky it's wasn't on television. This is worse than Sammy Guevara's joke, and he had to leave TV and get sensitivity training. I read a lot of people on Twitter bitching about two minutes of TV being cut and saying things to the effect of "we'll never get back to the Attitude Era if this keeps happening." Some people will never be happy, but this kind of nonsense was the stuff that deserves to stay in the past. If this edit upsets you (anyone in general, not you srossi), stick on Aaron Lewis and shake your fist at the sky. Tony Khan has publicly renounced the rap as “terrible” and criticized the lack of oversight that allowed it to air. Khan said that he will personally edit Dark and Elevation going forward. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 5th, 2021 12:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1441st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Reports are that Ruby Soho, formerly Ruby Riott, will sign with AEW. She has already been given the rights to use “Ruby Soho” for free as her theme song by the band Rancid, who are big wrestling fans and friends of CM Punk’s, so that will save Tony Khan some money. Her no-compete expires right before All Out. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 5th, 2021 05:05 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1442nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Tonight’s Forbidden Door brought us the AEW debut of NWA Women’s champion Kamille. That’s a huge appearance for her as she’s really inexperienced and over-pushed and has done nothing remotely high-profile before outside of NWA Power. She was at ringside watching the #1 contender’s match between The Bunny and Leyla Hirsch. Hirsch won and did the in-ring face-off with Kamille, and now will be traveling to NWA EmPower, the all-female PPV, to have the title match there. This is the same PPV that Mickie James went to Impact to recruit Deonna Purrazzo for. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 5th, 2021 05:28 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1443rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Pabst Blue Ribbon aired a national commercial during Dynamite tonight featuring Matt Cardona, Brian Myers, Chelsea Green, Hornswoggle, and Mark Sterling. Their social media accounts are also plugging AEW and GCW. This commercial is a direct result of the Domino’s fall-out with Pabst trolling Domino’s and saying they’ll advertise with them instead, followed by pictures of the Pabst brand with a pizza cutter. What strange times these are. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 5th, 2021 07:25 am PM Quote Reply 1444th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Tonight’s Forbidden Door brought us the AEW debut of NWA Women’s champion Kamille. That’s a huge appearance for her as she’s really inexperienced and over-pushed and has done nothing remotely high-profile before outside of NWA Power. She was at ringside watching the #1 contender’s match between The Bunny and Leyla Hirsch. Hirsch won and did the in-ring face-off with Kamille, and now will be traveling to NWA EmPower, the all-female PPV, to have the title match there. This is the same PPV that Mickie James went to Impact to recruit Deonna Purrazzo for. Also announced for next week is the Good Brothers defending the Impact tag titles against Uno & Grayson next week. Luke Gallows was wearing a robe that looked suspiciously like a Ric Flair robe in the segment when they announced the match. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 5th, 2021 05:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1445th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Cody Rhodes said that the Anthony Agogo match was originally supposed to happen at an AEW show in the UK, but those plans were obviously canceled due to Covid. Cody said that as soon as travel restrictions are lifted, AEW is planning on running a show and maybe even a Dynamite or PPV in the UK. Other international touring options are on the table as well. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 6th, 2021 07:06 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1446th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Last night on Impact, we had a few pretty big Forbidden Door moments. Chris Bey joined The Bullet Club after Jay White helped him beat Juice Robinson. Melina made her Impact debut as she was revealed to be Deonna Purrazzo’s opponent at NWA Empower, and Mickie James hosted the impromptu contract signing. In the main event, Frankie Kazarian returned from AEW for his 1st Impact match in 7 years to unite Eddie Edwards and Sami Callihan in a win over Kenny Omega and The Good Brothers. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 7th, 2021 02:15 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1447th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: AEW has announced that in addition to Rampage, they will be premiering 4 new series by the end of 2022. One will be the previously announced reality show “Rhodes to the Top” starring Cody, Brandi, the baby, and Dusty’s widow. It’s a good guess that the other 3 shows will not actually have wrestling on them either and will just be reality-based or documentary-style. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Aug 10th, 2021 12:38 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1448th Post One Fan Gang Joined: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 Location: Posts: 16317 Status: Offline Mana: Jericho faces Wardlow on this week's Labour with MJF as referee. He is soliciting strategy across wrestling boundaries. <A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mg214g_ZQ" TARGET="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mg214g_ZQA> Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Tue Aug 10th, 2021 12:46 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1449th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/237.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu237')">One Fan Ganga> wrote: Jericho faces Wardlow on this week's Labour with MJF as referee. He is soliciting strategy across wrestling boundaries. <A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mg214g_ZQ" TARGET="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mg214g_ZQA> “Let me write this down.” “Oh yes, a mini List if you will.” Jericho couldn’t hide the smirk. Classic. I love Danhausen and it’s great that Jericho is doing skits with him. I don’t know why ROH just doesn’t give their belt to Omega and join the Forbidden Door alliance already. They desperately need the help and of the only thing that comes out of it is an Omega-Bandido match and Danhausen on Dynamite, I’d be satisfied. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2021 02:25 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1450th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: It’s been revealed that Jimmy Havok has moved back to England and has taken a regular job as a courier for the UK delivery company DPD. He posted a selfie somewhere in his uniform, but otherwise he has abandoned social media since #SpeakingOut. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2021 04:33 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1451st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Meltzer is reporting that Andrade is telling people he plans on his whole family joining him in AEW, and by “family” he means Ric and Charlotte Flair plus his former Los Ingobernables stablemates Rush, Dragon Lee, and Bestia del Ring from ROH. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2021 09:49 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1452nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: PWInsider: CM Punk did a special interview with the Sunday Nights Main Event podcast, where he talked about his role in the show Heels for Starz. Punk talks about originally reading for the lead role in the series, choreographing matches with Luke Hawkx, inspiration from his days in the ring for his character, and whether he watches current wrestling. When asked about the possibility of appearing at the United Center on the second episode of AEW Rampage Brooks proceeded to check his calendar stating that he would be at a screening of episode three of Heels in Chicago at an AMC theater. Punk was asked about Darby Allin he put over the former TNT Champion and his ability to dive saying everyone else needs to stop doing it because no one does it as good as Allin. The former WWE Champion was asked about the references made to the Best in the World and slyly said that "that's Bryan," referencing Bryan Danielson. Punk states that even though his latest role puts them back in the wrestling world, he is focused on being an actor. Punk was asked why he didn't join AEW when first approached by Tony Khan, he stated that over the years in wrestling you hear plenty of stories of big money players starting their own promotions and he just didn't want to have anything to do with it. When asked about recent releases, Punk states that he's been out of the loop and doesn't know who exactly has been released, but it may be a blessing in disguise. It sucks but it may be the best thing that happened to them ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2021 10:08 pm PM Quote Reply 1453rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: PWInsider: CM Punk did a special interview with the Sunday Nights Main Event podcast, where he talked about his role in the show Heels for Starz. Punk talks about originally reading for the lead role in the series, choreographing matches with Luke Hawkx, inspiration from his days in the ring for his character, and whether he watches current wrestling. When asked about the possibility of appearing at the United Center on the second episode of AEW Rampage Brooks proceeded to check his calendar stating that he would be at a screening of episode three of Heels in Chicago at an AMC theater. Punk was asked about Darby Allin he put over the former TNT Champion and his ability to dive saying everyone else needs to stop doing it because no one does it as good as Allin. The former WWE Champion was asked about the references made to the Best in the World and slyly said that "that's Bryan," referencing Bryan Danielson. Punk states that even though his latest role puts them back in the wrestling world, he is focused on being an actor. Punk was asked why he didn't join AEW when first approached by Tony Khan, he stated that over the years in wrestling you hear plenty of stories of big money players starting their own promotions and he just didn't want to have anything to do with it. When asked about recent releases, Punk states that he's been out of the loop and doesn't know who exactly has been released, but it may be a blessing in disguise. It sucks but it may be the best thing that happened to them We're gonna get this for the next few days. I guess Punk will be doing press for his new show, and he's gonna get asked about AEW, and he can't spoil anything, but he didn't deny it either. I think Punk turns up at the end of the first Rampage show (maybe not in person, just something confirming he is coming in) so that AEW can hype the premier of his new show. They shouldn't confirm it sometime before August 20 so they can maximise the viewing audience for the show. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2021 04:18 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1454th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Wow, Pittsburg was on fire tonight. Dante Martin is a jobber and would be the most over guy in WWE right now. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2021 04:46 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1455th Post Franchise Low key big hog Joined: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 Location: Ohio , USA Posts: 6045 Status: Offline Mana: I watched most of the show tonight with my son and it was enjoyable. I didnt know a lot of the “stories” but it didnt lessen my enjoyment. Admittedly im a sucker for 6 man tags so having one kick off the show helped. ____________________ Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2021 10:08 am PM Quote Reply 1456th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Wow, Pittsburg was on fire tonight. Dante Martin is a jobber and would be the most over guy in WWE right now. One person the crowd weren't into was Christian Cage. When he came out, the crowd were chanting for Punk and Bryan (slightly worrying for AEW that it wasn't for Hangman Page if you ask me). But with the Cage-Omega Impact title match announced for Rampage, maybe AEW know what they're doing. I don't see Christian Cage as a main eventer in 2021. It's not like he was a guy who was done dirty by WWE. Multiple title reigns as both a single and in tag teams, and was punching way above his weight getting a world title run, seeing as he's a smaller guy and not a top promo guy. He went to TNA and became a two time world champion. He's not a guy who WWE didn't use properly like Pac or Malakai Black. And he wrestles like he's still in WWE. That match he had with Matt Hardy seemed very out of place in AEW and I'm sure Jim Cornette and Bruce Pritchard loved it. Of course he will have a good match with Kenny Omega, but it's not a world title match to headline a PPV (and I don't think it will). There's a lot of television between now and All Out, and Dynamite has been consistently a 7/10 or better show for a long time now. Some interesting Forbidden Door stuff last night. Kamille's taped promo was fine and makes me wonder why they gave her the mute gimmick for months in NWA (well, I do know... Billy Corgan really doesn't know what he's doing). Scott D'Amore was on commentary and Brian Hebner was the referee for the Impact tag title match. So they promoted both the NWA PPV and Impact on Thursdays. They really hope they are planning a Forbidden Door event for the future. Hold it in one of the giant college football stadiums and announce an attendance that tops Vince's record. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2021 02:55 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1457th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: AEW briefly pulled this week’s episode of Dark in order to delete a Max Caster rap, and then re-uploaded the show without it. The original airing featured Caster making reference to Simon Biles’ mental health, the Duke lacrosse team being falsely accused of rape, Covid PCR tests being fake, and valet Julia Hart’s “feminine odor”. Caster writes his own raps and it’s unclear if anyone approves them ahead of time, but no one from AEW seemed to have a problem with it until it was trashed on Twitter for being “extreme right-wing propaganda” that was misogynistic, anti-science, anti-“believe women”, and a whole host of other awful things. Caster is black and his tag team partner is gay, so he’s not exactly the typical poster-child for the right. The rap was available for several hours before being scrubbed. Max Caster has been suspended from AEW for 2 months without pay and forced to go to sensitivity training. This is a similar punishment to what Sammy Guevera got for his comments about Sasha Banks. This sensitivity training bullshit is really a crock, but someone is making a lot of money off of AEW. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2021 03:07 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1458th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Wow, Pittsburg was on fire tonight. Dante Martin is a jobber and would be the most over guy in WWE right now. One person the crowd weren't into was Christian Cage. When he came out, the crowd were chanting for Punk and Bryan (slightly worrying for AEW that it wasn't for Hangman Page if you ask me). But with the Cage-Omega Impact title match announced for Rampage, maybe AEW know what they're doing. I don't see Christian Cage as a main eventer in 2021. It's not like he was a guy who was done dirty by WWE. Multiple title reigns as both a single and in tag teams, and was punching way above his weight getting a world title run, seeing as he's a smaller guy and not a top promo guy. He went to TNA and became a two time world champion. He's not a guy who WWE didn't use properly like Pac or Malakai Black. And he wrestles like he's still in WWE. That match he had with Matt Hardy seemed very out of place in AEW and I'm sure Jim Cornette and Bruce Pritchard loved it. Of course he will have a good match with Kenny Omega, but it's not a world title match to headline a PPV (and I don't think it will). There's a lot of television between now and All Out, and Dynamite has been consistently a 7/10 or better show for a long time now. Some interesting Forbidden Door stuff last night. Kamille's taped promo was fine and makes me wonder why they gave her the mute gimmick for months in NWA (well, I do know... Billy Corgan really doesn't know what he's doing). Scott D'Amore was on commentary and Brian Hebner was the referee for the Impact tag title match. So they promoted both the NWA PPV and Impact on Thursdays. They really hope they are planning a Forbidden Door event for the future. Hold it in one of the giant college football stadiums and announce an attendance that tops Vince's record. I thought they were going to do Omega vs. Cage next week instead of at All Out, but they made it in addition to All Out. I think that will be changed. They'll probably run an injury angle after Omega beats Cage to defend the Impact title, and he'll never get the AEW title shot. I can't imagine the booking otherwise. This isn't a strong enough match to see twice in a row. And Cage would have to win the Impact title to drum up any interest to see him get the AEW title shot, which I don't see happening. It's possible with Cage's history with the company and he was the guy Impact asked for in the Flair trade years ago, but I don't think it's time to end Omega's "Belt Collector" gimmick yet. But if Omega wins, then who in their right mind would pay to see Cage get another shot at him. That would be WWE-level booking, and AEW doesn't do that. AEW has booked themselves into a corner, so I assume the All Out match was never going to happen. As far as booking a football stadium, I don't see how they could fill that. None of the companies in the Forbidden Door are a real draw other than AEW and NJPW. So can AEW alone, with Okada and Tanahashi (the two names from NJPW that can probably move the needle here), sell 80,000 seats? Highly unlikely, even if you pull out all the stops and have Aldis defend the NWA title, a Gage vs. Cardona deathmatch rematch for the GCW title, and any other big match you can think of. They could do it at MSG and sell it out to tweek Vince, but that was already done by ROH and NJPW and long-term int meant nothing to either. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2021 03:53 pm PM Quote Reply 1459th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: They seem to be moving away from the belt collector gimmick at the moment. Otherwise he would at least be challenging for something at the New Japan PPV and surely NWA floated the idea of Aldis vs Omega for their NWA PPV. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 08:41 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1460th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Wow, Pittsburg was on fire tonight. Dante Martin is a jobber and would be the most over guy in WWE right now. Was that the guy who wrestled Darbs? I thought he was alright, a little small, but isn't everyone these days. As far as Punk, Khan better have him signed because if he doesn't show up during that Chicago show, it might be enough for the fans to rip everything up and burn the United Center down. Who knows with this audience though as they got over the Christian, Huge star reveal, and the exploding ring fiasco quick enough, BUT you can only pull that shit so many times before even your most diehard fans turn on you. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 09:55 am PM Quote Reply 1461st Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: Tonight's debut of Rampage and the Impact title match was pushed pretty hard on last night's Impact with a talking heads montage which included Schiavone and Jim Ross. Keira Hogan was written out of Impact last night. She appeared for AEW on Wednesday, taping a match for next week's dark. This is less of the Forbidden Door, and more of just a regular door, since her Impact contract was up. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 02:54 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1462nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Tonight's debut of Rampage and the Impact title match was pushed pretty hard on last night's Impact with a talking heads montage which included Schiavone and Jim Ross. Keira Hogan was written out of Impact last night. She appeared for AEW on Wednesday, taping a match for next week's dark. This is less of the Forbidden Door, and more of just a regular door, since her Impact contract was up. I was pretty amazed that they built Impact around pushing Rampage and Christian without getting Christian on the show. For AEW to get an infomercial the day before the premiere was tremendous for them, even though far fewer fans watch Impact than AEW. I still wonder sometimes exactly what Impact gets out of this. Compare D’Amore being almost a mute on Dynamite to what Impact did for AEW last night. It’s almost like Impact is happy being AEW’s C show at this point. If I was them, I would’ve said if you want us to promote your show, give us the contact signing at least on Impact because we don’t exist just to re-run Dynamite clips. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 03:30 pm PM Quote Reply 1463rd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: Tonight's debut of Rampage and the Impact title match was pushed pretty hard on last night's Impact with a talking heads montage which included Schiavone and Jim Ross. Keira Hogan was written out of Impact last night. She appeared for AEW on Wednesday, taping a match for next week's dark. This is less of the Forbidden Door, and more of just a regular door, since her Impact contract was up. I was pretty amazed that they built Impact around pushing Rampage and Christian without getting Christian on the show. For AEW to get an infomercial the day before the premiere was tremendous for them, even though far fewer fans watch Impact than AEW. I still wonder sometimes exactly what Impact gets out of this. Compare D’Amore being almost a mute on Dynamite to what Impact did for AEW last night. It’s almost like Impact is happy being AEW’s C show at this point. If I was them, I would’ve said if you want us to promote your show, give us the contact signing at least on Impact because we don’t exist just to re-run Dynamite clips. They had a Christian Cage interview with Alex Marvez that was new content for Impact. Not sure what else they could do since Impact was taped so long ago. Of course it could all be done better, but I'd definitely say that I have never enjoyed watching wrestling more that I do now. [Apart from WWF, we got very little of the late 90s wrestling wars in the UK, I followed it all online, but never saw much of it until later with torrenting and later the Network.] ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 07:51 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1464th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: I really don't think Britt Baker's feet ever touched the ground on Wednesday night. Then yesterday she threw out the first pitch at the Pirates game. Sad to see that pretty much only her friends and family showed up to the game to see it. That stadium is so f'n nice, it should be packed every game. And seats are cheap out there! ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 07:54 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1465th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: I really don't think Britt Baker's feet ever touched the ground on Wednesday night. Then yesterday she threw out the first pitch at the Pirates game. Sad to see that pretty much only her friends and family showed up to the game to see it. That stadium is so f'n nice, it should be packed every game. And seats are cheap out there! The emergence of Britt Baker is one of my favorite things about AEW. She damn near shit herself the first time she was on TV less than 2 years ago. Now she's a star and more over than any female in WWE since Becky Lynch got pregnant. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 11:47 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1466th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Anyone know how to watch "Rampage" in Canada? TSN airs "Dynamite", but I just checked my guide and I don't see "Rampage" listed as being on any of the five TSN channels. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 12:04 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1467th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Anyone know how to watch "Rampage" in Canada? TSN airs "Dynamite", but I just checked my guide and I don't see "Rampage" listed as being on any of the five TSN channels. TSN is streaming it live but not airing it on TV, I think. So download their app. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 12:17 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1468th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: I really don't think Britt Baker's feet ever touched the ground on Wednesday night. Then yesterday she threw out the first pitch at the Pirates game. Sad to see that pretty much only her friends and family showed up to the game to see it. That stadium is so f'n nice, it should be packed every game. And seats are cheap out there! The emergence of Britt Baker is one of my favorite things about AEW. She damn near shit herself the first time she was on TV less than 2 years ago. Now she's a star and more over than any female in WWE since Becky Lynch got pregnant. I have a feeling that Tony Schiavone talked to her very early on and helped her come out of her shell and get as over the top as she's gotten as far as her promo delivery goes. My gut tells me this because why on earth would they have spent so much time pushing their friendship on TV. I mean, especially since she's a heel and he's not a heel announcer - I bet their friendship started very organically based on the product and it's sent her to the top of the card. That first night she was awful, and I remember writing that she wouldn't last. I believed that. Then she just got it all of a sudden. To me she is one of the best things to watch in wrestling, and I think once they get Jade Cargill completely trained to the point where they can let her stretch out the match to a half hour, they will tear the house down. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 12:27 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1469th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: Anyone know how to watch "Rampage" in Canada? TSN airs "Dynamite", but I just checked my guide and I don't see "Rampage" listed as being on any of the five TSN channels. TSN is streaming it live but not airing it on TV, I think. So download their app. Oh for fuck sakes they better not make it exclusive to their app. It's just going to be easier for me to go find a stream on reddit. Thank you for the info though. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 01:29 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1470th Post khawk Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 19680 Status: Offline Mana: Will the app even work outside of Canada? Serious question, I have no idea. ____________________ "It never hurts to use plain language when people are fucking stupid."--gwlee "wrestling fans need to start taking showers it makes no sense to smell the way they smell"--kk18 "Lard is a food group in Arkansas."-Raditch Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 03:10 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1471st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/14.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu14')">khawka> wrote: Will the app even work outside of Canada? Serious question, I have no idea. My guess is no. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 03:26 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1472nd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/14.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu14')">khawka> wrote: Will the app even work outside of Canada? Serious question, I have no idea. My guess is no. No. I'm just going to look for a stream now. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 04:05 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1473rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: So what's the scoop here tonight, are we going to get a Bryan or Punk debut or at least tease? Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 04:22 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1474th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Christian worked hard in that match. Awesome. I popped out of my seat when he pinned Kenny. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 04:47 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1475th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: I was not expecting that and I didn’t think it was time for Omega to lose a belt. But Christian and Impact have history and I’m sure he’ll work hard for them. His first title defense based on last night’s Impact will be against Brian Meyers of all people, which would’ve been a Main Event match not long ago. And the way Omega took the unprettier on the chair made it look like he broke his neck and was an awesome finish. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 04:58 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1476th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Miro squashes Fuego del Sol but Sammy Guevara, on behalf of Tony Khan, comes out and offers him a contract in what seemed like a legit surprise for Fuego since I don’t think he’s that good an actor. Very reminiscent of the HHH-Cedric Alexander moment except Fuego will actually get a fair chance to get over. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 05:05 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1477th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Miro squashes Fuego del Sol but Sammy Guevara, on behalf of Tony Khan, comes out and offers him a contract in what seemed like a legit surprise for Fuego since I don’t think he’s that good an actor. Very reminiscent of the HHH-Cedric Alexander moment except Fuego will actually get a fair chance to get over. I didn't like that. They said this guy is 1-50? Wins and losses matter? They should have left it at Miro tearing up the contract. They just seem to go one step too far with some of these segments. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 05:10 am Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1478th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I was not expecting that and I didn’t think it was time for Omega to lose a belt. But Christian and Impact have history and I’m sure he’ll work hard for them. His first title defense based on last night’s Impact will be against Brian Meyers of all people, which would’ve been a Main Event match not long ago. And the way Omega took the unprettier on the chair made it look like he broke his neck and was an awesome finish. Omega took that Killswitch like a beast. Feet off the ground and everything. In all honesty it was probably a safer bump than most that he was taking in Japan. But it looked amazing and the camera angle caught the impact and it was tight. I knew Christian would win, as you said, nobody would give a fuck about the PPV main event otherwise. But I didn’t expect him to get any belts. It does make sense that Impact would want him and you knew Kenny would never get pinned on their show. So Christian brings the belts back and somewhere down the road it will allow a heel Matt Cardona to win them. Chelsea works best as a heel and the announcers foreshadowed it already when mentioning the GCW win over Gage. It makes sense for Impact too as of all the guys on their roster, he probably has the largest exposure by a lot. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 05:16 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1479th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I was not expecting that and I didn’t think it was time for Omega to lose a belt. But Christian and Impact have history and I’m sure he’ll work hard for them. His first title defense based on last night’s Impact will be against Brian Meyers of all people, which would’ve been a Main Event match not long ago. And the way Omega took the unprettier on the chair made it look like he broke his neck and was an awesome finish. Omega took that Killswitch like a beast. Feet off the ground and everything. In all honesty it was probably a safer bump than most that he was taking in Japan. But it looked amazing and the camera angle caught the impact and it was tight. I knew Christian would win, as you said, nobody would give a fuck about the PPV main event otherwise. But I didn’t expect him to get any belts. It does make sense that Impact would want him and you knew Kenny would never get pinned on their show. So Christian brings the belts back and somewhere down the road it will allow a heel Matt Cardona to win them. Chelsea works best as a heel and the announcers foreshadowed it already when mentioning the GCW win over Gage. It makes sense for Impact too as of all the guys on their roster, he probably has the largest exposure by a lot. They just jobbed Cardona to career indy nobody John Skylar last night, so if that was the start of a main event push then they’re booking like Vince now. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 05:17 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1480th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Crowd was electric for Britt again, even though they never let her be a face. She heeled that entire match and then afterwards she laid out Velvet with her new associate Jamie Hayter, who no one recognized or cared about. But that crowd went nuts for everything else. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 05:21 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1481st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Immediately following the win, Impact sent out a press release: Christian Cage Returns To The IMPACT Zone This Monday & Tuesday, August 16-17 In Nashville, Tennessee New IMPACT Wrestling World Champion Christian Cage will make his return to The IMPACT Zone on Monday, August 16, IMPACT executives confirmed moments after the AEW superstar defeated Kenny Omega tonight on AEW Rampage to claim the IMPACT World Championship. IMPACT Wrestling has shows August 15-17 at Skyway Studios in Nashville, Tennessee, with two shows daily: 3-6pm and 7-10pm local time. Tickets to all shows are now available, get them here: <A HREF="http://impac.tw/AugTV" TARGET="_blank">http://impac.tw/AugTVA> Christian Cage’s return this Monday to The IMPACT Zone marks his first time inside an IMPACT ring in almost 10 years. He will appear on the weekly flagship show IMPACT! this upcoming Thursday, August 19, which airs from 8-10 p.m. ET on AXS TV in the US and around the world on IMPACT Wrestling’s new YouTube membership Impact Insiders. Christian Cage is a two-time IMPACT World Heavyweight Champion, first claiming the title in early 2006 at the Against All Odds pay-per-view. Then, at Final Resolution in January 2007, he defeated Abyss and Sting in a three-way elimination match to reclaim the championship. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 05:24 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1482nd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: 20 minutes ago, Adam Cole simply tweeted “#Brittsburgh”, and that elicited hundreds of replies already from fans begging him to go/not to go to AEW. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 06:04 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1483rd Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: Some of these top guys all coming in so close to one another are at risk of getting lost in the AEW top guy shuffle. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 06:07 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1484th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: It was really noticeable that the crowd had no clue who that was that came and helped Britt. I had no clue and the name means nothing to me. Was she with AEW and just couldn't get to The States because of Covid? I believe they did say she was British. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 06:08 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1485th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: This is just a useless post because I want to get this thread to a hundred pages tonight. GO Christian. He worked hard in there tonight. Kenny gave him a workout as he was huffing and puffing at the end. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 06:09 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1486th Post carpetbeggar The Ayatollah Of Rock And Rolla Joined: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 Location: Dangling From A Rope Of...CONFETTI!!! Posts: 12249 Status: Offline Mana: I still do not know how I feel about kicking out of a hundred finishers before being pinned. With a hot crowd it definitely makes it exciting. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 06:23 am Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1487th Post cookie32723 Joined: Thu Oct 18th, 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3704 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: I still do not know how I feel about kicking out of a hundred finishers before being pinned. With a hot crowd it definitely makes it exciting. Agreed, but that’s rasslin now. 100 pages! ____________________ If data, science, and logic offends someone, then they probably need to be offended. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 04:12 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1488th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/65.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu65')">carpetbeggara> wrote: It was really noticeable that the crowd had no clue who that was that came and helped Britt. I had no clue and the name means nothing to me. Was she with AEW and just couldn't get to The States because of Covid? I believe they did say she was British. Yes, that’s exactly what happened. She looked just like Becky Lynch when she took her cap off, but no one remembers her from pre-Covid AEW. It’s not like she was a big part of the women’s division then. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 04:14 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1489th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Backstage there was an ECW reunion in Pittsburgh as Shane Douglas and Jeff Jones are local and were visiting. Tommy Dreamer was there with the Impact continent. Taz and Jerry Lynn work for AEW. So they hung out and took a pic and it was the first time they were in the same room in 25 years. Attached Image (viewed 30 times): 1478EB66-7E88-4501-9E24-394192F08792.jpeg ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 04:51 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1490th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Dixie Carter has commented: “This makes me very happy. I will never forget how special it was when @christian4peeps 1st became @impactwrestling World Champ. I always hated losing him to @wwe. Welcome home Christian & massive props to @aew for allowing these type of matches to happen. #makingwrestlingfunagain” ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 05:25 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1491st Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: Today Omega defends the AAA Mega title against Andrade in the main event of Triplemania. Given what happened last night, I suppose he will drop this title too. AEW has done nothing to promote this one. It was supposed to be promoted on Impact, but Andrade and Impact couldn’t come to terms and were replaced by Jay White to promote NJPW stuff instead. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 05:43 pm PM Quote Reply 1492nd Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Today Omega defends the AAA Mega title against Andrade in the main event of Triplemania. Given what happened last night, I suppose he will drop this title too. AEW has done nothing to promote this one. It was supposed to be promoted on Impact, but Andrade and Impact couldn’t come to terms and were replaced by Jay White to promote NJPW stuff instead. The Lucha Bros have been the AAA tag champions for over two years. I think they defended it on one of the early AEW PPVs, but it hasn't been acknowledged once since Dynamite started. The Forbidden Door between AEW and AAA is only slightly ajar. Reports from Mexico were that AAA fans shit all over Andrade's first match for them because he wrestled WWE style. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 05:49 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1493rd Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Today Omega defends the AAA Mega title against Andrade in the main event of Triplemania. Given what happened last night, I suppose he will drop this title too. AEW has done nothing to promote this one. It was supposed to be promoted on Impact, but Andrade and Impact couldn’t come to terms and were replaced by Jay White to promote NJPW stuff instead. The Lucha Bros have been the AAA tag champions for over two years. I think they defended it on one of the early AEW PPVs, but it hasn't been acknowledged once since Dynamite started. The Forbidden Door between AEW and AAA is only slightly ajar. Reports from Mexico were that AAA fans shit all over Andrade's first match for them because he wrestled WWE style. At the time, Tony Khan specifically said that they would no longer mention AAA or other titles in AEW because they needed to focus on getting their own belts over and not confuse the audience. This was in the very early days of Dynamite, long before the Forbidden Door opened. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 07:20 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1494th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: I was not expecting that and I didn’t think it was time for Omega to lose a belt. But Christian and Impact have history and I’m sure he’ll work hard for them. His first title defense based on last night’s Impact will be against Brian Meyers of all people, which would’ve been a Main Event match not long ago. And the way Omega took the unprettier on the chair made it look like he broke his neck and was an awesome finish. Omega took that Killswitch like a beast. Feet off the ground and everything. In all honesty it was probably a safer bump than most that he was taking in Japan. But it looked amazing and the camera angle caught the impact and it was tight. I knew Christian would win, as you said, nobody would give a fuck about the PPV main event otherwise. But I didn’t expect him to get any belts. It does make sense that Impact would want him and you knew Kenny would never get pinned on their show. So Christian brings the belts back and somewhere down the road it will allow a heel Matt Cardona to win them. Chelsea works best as a heel and the announcers foreshadowed it already when mentioning the GCW win over Gage. It makes sense for Impact too as of all the guys on their roster, he probably has the largest exposure by a lot. They just jobbed Cardona to career indy nobody John Skylar last night, so if that was the start of a main event push then they’re booking like Vince now. The way that Impact books things, there will have to be a good reason for him to turn heel. I can already see this loss plus maybe one or two more and there will be a segment with Tommy Dreamer offering him some advice and Cardona absolutely destroying Dreamer. But that’s just a guess. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 07:27 pm Already A Friend PM Quote Reply 1495th Post Superstar '18-'19 POTY, 1st Ballot HOFer Joined: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 Location: Dickshooter, Idaho USA Posts: 8893 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Crowd was electric for Britt again, even though they never let her be a face. She heeled that entire match and then afterwards she laid out Velvet with her new associate Jamie Hayter, who no one recognized or cared about. But that crowd went nuts for everything else. I think they played the Brittsburgh card perfectly. The fans all know she’s a heel, so instead of making her the face in her hometown, they kept things as is, and Britt didn’t heel on her hometown. If this were WWE, she would have gotten on the mic and let everyone know that she moved to Florida to get away from the cesspool known as Pittsburgh. Instead, she came out with a shit eating grin, cheated, won, attacked after the match, and the whole time got a rousing ovation. She didn’t do the on screen hug with her parents, she didn’t shake hands, but she also didn’t shit on them. I think it was great. Could they have pulled off the “Canadian Stampede” moment? No, not with just her. So they did the moment properly in my opinion and it had to feel incredible knowing she was main eventing the debut Friday Night show in her hometown. She needs to work with a couple of girls that are better than her though, because she won’t grow otherwise. ____________________ "Jack Brisco grabbed my testicles once but I told him "Brisco, you have exactly 15 minutes to get your hands off my balls"." -WongLee 7/22/2017 Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 07:35 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1496th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/152.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu152')">Superstara> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: Crowd was electric for Britt again, even though they never let her be a face. She heeled that entire match and then afterwards she laid out Velvet with her new associate Jamie Hayter, who no one recognized or cared about. But that crowd went nuts for everything else. I think they played the Brittsburgh card perfectly. The fans all know she’s a heel, so instead of making her the face in her hometown, they kept things as is, and Britt didn’t heel on her hometown. If this were WWE, she would have gotten on the mic and let everyone know that she moved to Florida to get away from the cesspool known as Pittsburgh. Instead, she came out with a shit eating grin, cheated, won, attacked after the match, and the whole time got a rousing ovation. She didn’t do the on screen hug with her parents, she didn’t shake hands, but she also didn’t shit on them. I think it was great. Could they have pulled off the “Canadian Stampede” moment? No, not with just her. So they did the moment properly in my opinion and it had to feel incredible knowing she was main eventing the debut Friday Night show in her hometown. She needs to work with a couple of girls that are better than her though, because she won’t grow otherwise. If it was WWE, she would’ve jobbed in 5 seconds and then been forced to bark like a dog. Vince’s perverse joy at embarrassing people in their hometown goes back decades, even before he lost his mind, and was always about him getting a laugh at the expense of actually doing what’s right for business. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 10:32 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1497th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: So how did the taping work last night? Did they tape Dark or Elevation before? Matches for next week's Rampage? They didn't do all that for one hour. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 10:38 pm PM Quote Reply 1498th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: So how did the taping work last night? Did they tape Dark or Elevation before? Matches for next week's Rampage? They didn't do all that for one hour. They taped Elevation before Dynamite on Wednesday and Dark before Rampage last night. Next week's Rampage? I'll let you think on that one! LOL ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Back To Top Edit Edit Source PM Quote Reply Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 11:04 pm Add as Friend Ignore Member PM Quote Reply 1499th Post srossi Joined: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 Location: New York USA Posts: 62723 Status: Offline Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: So how did the taping work last night? Did they tape Dark or Elevation before? Matches for next week's Rampage? They didn't do all that for one hour. They taped Elevation before Dynamite on Wednesday and Dark before Rampage last night. Next week's Rampage? I'll let you think on that one! LOL I meant content for it, not the whole thing. Is Rampage supposed to be live every week or just at the beginning? Keeping a crowd hot for 1 good hour when they have to sit through 2+ hours of jobber matches can't be easy. ____________________ This thread was great before AA ruined it. Back To Top PM Quote Reply Posted: Sun Aug 15th, 2021 05:14 am PM Quote Reply 1500th Post Kriss Citizen of nowhere Joined: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 11223 Status: Online Mana: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/124.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu124')">Krissa> wrote: <a style="color:#0000FF" href="/users/16.html" onclick="show_menu(event, this, 'menu16')">srossia> wrote: So how did the taping work last night? Did they tape Dark or Elevation before? Matches for next week's Rampage? They didn't do all that for one hour. They taped Elevation before Dynamite on Wednesday and Dark before Rampage last night. Next week's Rampage? I'll let you think on that one! LOL I meant content for it, not the whole thing. Is Rampage supposed to be live every week or just at the beginning? Keeping a crowd hot for 1 good hour when they have to sit through 2+ hours of jobber matches can't be easy. They've said it will be taped after Dynamite some weeks. They also said that Dark will sometimes be filmed somewhere else because they can't do four shows on a Wednesday night, but they haven't said where that is yet. ____________________ “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain |
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