|
Post by BlazerTron on Apr 17, 2024 3:00:41 GMT
I know records/vinyl is a niche thing, but are DVDs really coming back? I feel like streaming just became the norm. Are we already feeling nostalgic for dvds?
|
|
|
Post by nyhack56 on Apr 17, 2024 3:36:45 GMT
I can see it.
Streaming has spread out too much. If you have 5 favorite movies, you need 5 different subscriptions.
I really thinned out my DVD collection over the last 5 years, but if you have the space, you can pick up a lot of stuff basically for free on Facebook marketplace.
|
|
|
Post by Kriss on Apr 17, 2024 5:47:54 GMT
I think there is a backlash from some people who are really serious about their movie fandom that is going back to physical media. The issue isn't so much about the number of different subscriptions you might need, but that stuff can be pulled from streaming without notice, or never appear on streaming at all. Disney+ has pulled brand new shows recently to save money by avoiding paying royalties on poorly-performing shows (the new Willow show disappeared, possibly forever, after only a few months). It's mostly down to rights deals that were signed before streaming was ever a thing. Loads of TV shows, and many movies, have had their music replaced on streaming due to rights issues (you'll know this from the WWE Network). The DVDs/Blu-rays don't have this problem, so if you want the original version of your favorite show or movie, you have to go physical. If you like extras like deleted scenes and commentaries, you have to physical as well.
A couple of famous examples are Scrubs, which made great use of licenced music, which has all been removed in the streaming versions, and the Drew Carey Show, which used so much licensed music that it hasn't appeared on streaming at all.
It's not really a nostalgia deal. It's not a rejection of streaming per se, but some people have seen the limitations of streaming in its current form. There's also a smaller preservation community dedicated to lost media.
It's still a tiny part of the market, and most of it is in the second-hand market, since newer titles have rights deals that incorporate streaming.
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Apr 17, 2024 6:02:55 GMT
It's a small niche but I can see it. There's a massive amount of pre-owned DVDs available for nearly nothing. I still buy them. I've the space to store them easily. I don't think it's nostalgia but could be wrong. The problem is that most people stipped buying DVDs 10-15 years ago so the selection of aecond-hand available here in Ireland is poor. I've not really checked online. I'm not buying new DVDs anymore.
There's a generation that grew up after VHS and before streaming and I guess there's a small bit of nostalgia there. But I grew up with VHS and would never bother with a video again for the rest of my life.
Most people I know got rid of DVD players years ago and at best have a PlayStation that can play them if needed.
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Apr 17, 2024 6:06:59 GMT
To Kriss' point, I prefer old movies and the movie selections available on most streaming that I've seen is bad.
You mention the fear that movies will disappear. There's also the fear of editing of old stuff. Someone recently told me the original version of the French Connection is no longer 'in print' or on streaming . Not sure i believe that but I can buy that Netflix would.cut it.
Netflix also dropped a few shows through the years for supposed racism,including The Mighty Boosh, which you're probably familiar with Kriss. I think I picked up all three series for a couple of Euro.
|
|
|
Post by Kriss on Apr 17, 2024 6:14:42 GMT
French Connection had a six-letter racial slur removed.
At least you got a good deal on The Mighty Boosh. People have paid a lot of money to get their hands on Song of the South and Come Fly With Me, which is maybe valuing free speech over quality to their own financial detriment.
But that's a miniscule part of the problem that gets magnified out of all proportion by the woke and anti-woke crowds. The number one complaint about older movies and shows (mainly shows) being edited for streaming is the music being changed.
|
|
|
Post by Papa on Apr 17, 2024 10:24:22 GMT
We had a thread on this on the old board.
You can purchase a movie through Amazon and then lose that purchase for a couple of different reasons.
1. The company who owns the rights to the movie is no longer contracted with Amazon. I believe somebody had this occur with Disney movies purchased through Amazon.
2. I went through about 4 tiers of phone calls and several emails with Amazon attempting to get an answer back about what happens if Amazon goes out of business or is sold. I could not get any type of straight answer on these questions.
|
|
|
Post by principalraditch on Apr 17, 2024 11:26:27 GMT
I still have a use for DVD's
Since our local Library system gets pretty much every mainstream movie in DVD format when it's released, I put a hold on the ones I'm interested in, pick it up when ready, bring it home, stick it in my old laptop, rip the file with MakeMKV, convert it to MPEG, and now I have a digital copy. I have @ 1400-1500 movies stretching back to the 1940's that sit on a small portable hard drive. I can stick the thing in to my pocket, and then plug it in to any USB on most newer TV's, scroll the files and then play the movie using a simple MPEG app.
|
|
|
Post by kargol on Apr 17, 2024 13:28:02 GMT
There's the risk that streaming services will just cancel a load of films, or won't have the cut that you want (Greedo &c). Plus do streaming services do the DVD extras? I always thought that was a Bloke Thing - women just watch a film as a film but men want to know the techie details or why they used a 67 Mustang in a 66 film or whatever.
|
|
|
Post by srossi on Apr 17, 2024 13:34:59 GMT
There's the risk that streaming services will just cancel a load of films, or won't have the cut that you want (Greedo &c). This is the big one.
|
|
|
Post by Kriss on Apr 17, 2024 13:35:04 GMT
There's the risk that streaming services will just cancel a load of films, or won't have the cut that you want (Greedo &c). Plus do streaming services do the DVD extras? I always thought that was a Bloke Thing - women just watch a film as a film but men want to know the techie details or why they used a 67 Mustang in a 66 film or whatever. Disney+ does have extras on it's marquee titles, but not everything you'd find on the DVD. All the commentaries that were on Disney+ have now gone. If you are a true cinephile, and have access to it, the Criterion Channel does have all the extras. As far as I know, other streaming services don't have the extras. If you pay for a digital copy of a movie, it does come with the same features as the physical copy, at least for new titles.
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Apr 17, 2024 16:37:50 GMT
There's the risk that streaming services will just cancel a load of films, or won't have the cut that you want (Greedo &c). Plus do streaming services do the DVD extras? I always thought that was a Bloke Thing - women just watch a film as a film but men want to know the techie details or why they used a 67 Mustang in a 66 film or whatever. Disney+ does have extras on it's marquee titles, but not everything you'd find on the DVD. All the commentaries that were on Disney+ have now gone. If you are a true cinephile, and have access to it, the Criterion Channel does have all the extras. As far as I know, other streaming services don't have the extras. If you pay for a digital copy of a movie, it does come with the same features as the physical copy, at least for new titles. Can you get Criterion over here without a VPN? I looked at it years ago and you couldn't.
|
|
|
Post by Kriss on Apr 17, 2024 16:40:34 GMT
Disney+ does have extras on it's marquee titles, but not everything you'd find on the DVD. All the commentaries that were on Disney+ have now gone. If you are a true cinephile, and have access to it, the Criterion Channel does have all the extras. As far as I know, other streaming services don't have the extras. If you pay for a digital copy of a movie, it does come with the same features as the physical copy, at least for new titles. Can you get Criterion over here without a VPN? I looked at it years ago and you couldn't. You definitely need a VPN to sign up. Once you were logged in, it used to work without the VPN, but that could have changed by now.
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Apr 17, 2024 18:47:06 GMT
Thanks. It's the only one I would definitely pay for. The film selection on Netflix is crap to me. I gave up on Netflix long ago. It was good for documentary stuff and some series.
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Apr 17, 2024 19:00:13 GMT
French Connection had a six-letter racial slur removed. At least you got a good deal on The Mighty Boosh. People have paid a lot of money to get their hands on Song of the South and Come Fly With Me, which is maybe valuing free speech over quality to their own financial detriment. I don't know 'Come Fly With Me' but my aunt had a VHS of Song of the South when i was a small kid. I loved it then, obviously didn't really get the problem with it. I presume it was a tv recording as I think I read that it was only released in Japan on home video. Here's a few others I got for under 2 euro each fairly recently: Black Books Phoenix Nights Band of Brothers Ken Burns Vietnam Ken Burns Civil War Full.series of the Killing (Norwegian one) This stuff is going for a pittance!
|
|