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Post by srossi on Apr 15, 2024 1:03:12 GMT
So this is a new Hogan story, at least for me. On tonight’s episode of “WWE’s Most Wasted Treasures”, Mick Foley asks Hogan where Hulkamania came from. Hogan says he took most of his schtick from Austin Idol. Idol cupped his hand to his ear first and he heard him say Idolmania in a promo, which was itself stolen from Beatlemania of course, and Hogan started to use these elements. I had never heard that one before as most of the stories always revolve around Hogan taking stuff from Billy Graham.
So that’s the story that makes sense. But Hogan being Hogan, he throws in another tall take that we’ve never heard before. He says it was originally his idea to turn heel (and he even came up with the name “Hollywood” Hulk Hogan) at WM VI where he wanted to hand Warrior the belt and leave him in the ring to celebrate (as happened), but then run in and attack him from behind to end that show. Vince told him no, he’d never turn him heel, but Hogan said he desperately wanted to. I don’t believe that one for a second.
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Post by BlazerTron on Apr 15, 2024 1:36:30 GMT
So this is a new Hogan story, at least for me. On tonight’s episode of “WWE’s Most Wasted Treasures”, Mick Foley asks Hogan where Hulkamania came from. Hogan says he took most of his schtick from Austin Idol. Idol cupped his hand to his ear first and he heard him say Idolmania in a promo, which was itself stolen from Beatlemania of course, and Hogan started to use these elements. I had never heard that one before as most of the stories always revolve around Hogan taking stuff from Billy Graham. So that’s the story that makes sense. But Hogan being Hogan, he throws in another tall take that we’ve never heard before. He says it was originally his idea to turn heel (and he even came up with the name “Hollywood” Hulk Hogan) at WM VI where he wanted to hand Warrior the belt and leave him in the ring to celebrate (as happened), but then run in and attack him from behind to end that show. Vince told him no, he’d never turn him heel, but Hogan said he desperately wanted to. I don’t believe that one for a second. The 2nd part is complete BS. Hogan had to be convinced by Kevin Sullivan to do the turn in '96. There was NO WAY he wanted to do that in 1990 and lose out on merch money. It was a totally different landscape in 1990. Tall tale, BS. |
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Post by the squared circle on Apr 15, 2024 15:09:02 GMT
I am around 87.38% sure that I heard the second part referenced in the Prichard podcast Something to Wrestle With, when their subject was WM6. Pretty sure Prichard mentions Hogan wanted the turn after the loss.
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Post by Superstar on Apr 15, 2024 15:12:36 GMT
So this is a new Hogan story, at least for me. On tonight’s episode of “WWE’s Most Wasted Treasures”, Mick Foley asks Hogan where Hulkamania came from. Hogan says he took most of his schtick from Austin Idol. Idol cupped his hand to his ear first and he heard him say Idolmania in a promo, which was itself stolen from Beatlemania of course, and Hogan started to use these elements. I had never heard that one before as most of the stories always revolve around Hogan taking stuff from Billy Graham. So that’s the story that makes sense. But Hogan being Hogan, he throws in another tall take that we’ve never heard before. He says it was originally his idea to turn heel (and he even came up with the name “Hollywood” Hulk Hogan) at WM VI where he wanted to hand Warrior the belt and leave him in the ring to celebrate (as happened), but then run in and attack him from behind to end that show. Vince told him no, he’d never turn him heel, but Hogan said he desperately wanted to. I don’t believe that one for a second. Another thing that makes sense is that he crossed paths with Idol in GA when he was wrestling as Sterling Golden. So timing wise it's perfect because he hadn't yet been Hulk Hogan. |
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Post by boz1515 on Apr 16, 2024 0:15:44 GMT
I remember reading where "Hulking Up" was Verne's idea and specific direction. He really did have his entire schtick before he got back to WWE in late 83.
Those WWE documentaries from a few years ago where they were asking "what came first, Hulkamania or Wrestlemania?" are hilarious. You can hear the references in the AWA on multiple occasions.
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Post by srossi on Apr 16, 2024 1:09:09 GMT
I remember reading where "Hulking Up" was Verne's idea and specific direction. He really did have his entire schtick before he got back to WWE in late 83. Those WWE documentaries from a few years ago where they were asking "what came first, Hulkamania or Wrestlemania?" are hilarious. You can hear the references in the AWA on multiple occasions. Hulking up had been around for a while too, in different forms. Always looked like shit. Chief Jay Strongbow did it and it was cringe. Of course Hofan did it a little better, but it was still so cartoonish that I’m surprised Verne suggested it. But yes, there’s not one thing that Vince Jr. added to Hofan’s act. The only thing he did was market him better to kids and come up with merch. |
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Post by BlazerTron on Apr 16, 2024 3:28:29 GMT
I remember reading where "Hulking Up" was Verne's idea and specific direction. He really did have his entire schtick before he got back to WWE in late 83. Those WWE documentaries from a few years ago where they were asking "what came first, Hulkamania or Wrestlemania?" are hilarious. You can hear the references in the AWA on multiple occasions. Hulking up had been around for a while too, in different forms. Always looked like shit. Chief Jay Strongbow did it and it was cringe. Of course Hofan did it a little better, but it was still so cartoonish that I’m surprised Verne suggested it. But yes, there’s not one thing that Vince Jr. added to Hogan’s act. The only thing he did was market him better to kids and come up with merch. You can even make a case that Vince only made Hogan's act worse. I know we've talked about this before, so I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but the Hogan character '84 to about '86 was a completely different guy than the later Hogan. The '84 - '86 Hogan was still kick-ass, cool-to-root for, with a slight edge to him. At some point he became a whiney bitch. |
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Post by The Ultimate Sin on Apr 16, 2024 3:42:18 GMT
Hulking up had been around for a while too, in different forms. Always looked like shit. Chief Jay Strongbow did it and it was cringe. Of course Hofan did it a little better, but it was still so cartoonish that I’m surprised Verne suggested it. But yes, there’s not one thing that Vince Jr. added to Hogan’s act. The only thing he did was market him better to kids and come up with merch. At some point he became a whiney bitch. That'll happen to you when everyone you trust turns on you. |
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Post by BlazerTron on Apr 16, 2024 4:03:09 GMT
At some point he became a whiney bitch. That'll happen to you when everyone you trust turns on you. Well, when you don't answer the phone because you had "700 lbs on the rack" or walk around with lust in your eyes, that'll happen. |
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Post by khawk on Apr 16, 2024 12:40:57 GMT
At some point he became a whiney bitch. That'll happen to you when everyone you trust turns on you. Yeah…when it comes crashing down, it hurts inside. |
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