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Post by srossi on Mar 30, 2024 23:18:02 GMT
So for the past week, NYC has had a serial puncher on the loose. Almost a dozen women have been randomly sucker-punched on the streets of NYC, with a social media influencer who was victimized super-charging the discussion on this. A suspect is now in custody. It's perennial conservative mayoral and gubernatorial candidate Skiboky Stora, who was last seen getting disqualified from the 2022 Republican party ballot. He has run as an independent as well for such third parties as Out Lawbreaker Party and Freedom Party.
Stora is black, formerly homeless, a Trump supporter, and a big "tough on crime" guy. He claims to be the great-great-grandson of Marcus Garvey (with no evidence). He posts a lot of shirtless videos while talking about NYC's crime problem and what he would do about it. He was once shot while at a homeless shelter and unsuccessfully sued the Department of Homeless Services for not protecting him better.
He once unleashed this gem during a third party debate: "“You know, you know, little kids is being gunned down in New York every single day. Nowhere the cops them at. You know, it doesn’t take a science rocket with titles and degrees to know that the city is corrupted.”
Nothing better than when metal illness, politics, and crime intersect. I wonder if Trump will pardon him.
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Post by Papa on Mar 30, 2024 23:33:01 GMT
Whole country has gone to shit.
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Post by WongLee on Mar 31, 2024 17:33:37 GMT
I never got the impression Stora was 'tough on crime' even though I am admittedly new to his game. The videos I've seen of him show him verbally eviserating NYPD piggies without mercy to their face. I do get quite the strong whiff of mental illness coming off the brother though.
Rossi, as a lifelong New Yorker, you know as well as I that crime is NOT getting worse in the Big Apple. Not by a long shot.
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Post by srossi on Mar 31, 2024 17:57:20 GMT
I never got the impression Stora was 'tough on crime' even though I am admittedly new to his game. The videos I've seen of him show him verbally eviserating NYPD piggies without mercy to their face. I do get quite the strong whiff of mental illness coming off the brother though. Rossi, as a lifelong New Yorker, you know as well as I that crime is NOT getting worse in the Big Apple. Not by a long shot. It depends what year you’re comparing the crime too. It’s definitely no worse than when I was a kid. The homelessness issue seems worse than I can ever remember of though. Maybe not the number, but they’ve changed. As long as I can remember, homeless begging was very predictable. You knew where they’d be and how they’d act. That’s different now. They’ve become aggressive, they get in your face individually, follow you, don’t take no for an answer. I had one accost me as I was walking out the front door of my house in a nice neighborhood! That shook me. 46 years I’ve never seen that before. A week before, one sat next to me on the train and started talking my ear off until I gave him $1 to go away. Again, 46 years, that’s never happened before. Had another see that I had a piece of cake from a work function that I was bringing home and yell at me for not giving it to him. The brazenness and entitlement mixed with desperation and mental illness is at a different level for sure. It’s definitely rolling the dice as to whether one of these people will get physical in any particular encounter. Whenever I traveled to other cities, I would always be surprised when the homeless spoke to individual people because that never happened in NY, and now they do it here too all the time. |
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Post by WongLee on Mar 31, 2024 21:28:13 GMT
Did I read that right ? You had one accosted you when you walked out the door of your own home? That is next level fucked up because as you said, it's a nice neighborhood.
The aggressiveness of the hobo population has not changed a bit. I lived in Manhattan from 1979-1983. My girlfriend that I had moved in with had been living in Manhattan for two years already. She totally knew the lay of the land and was very streetwise. We lived on East 90th Street between 2nd and 3rd Avenue. It was still known as Yorkville and was heavily German and Irish. I thought it might be quaint to eat at one of those outdoor cafes. She warned me. Don't do it...Well what could go wrong?...Don't do it. Well, I was paying so an outdoor place it was going to be. Fast forward only one hour later and we had almost the entire 19th Precinct breaking up brawls between my girlfriend and I against scores of bums. Luckily we were aided by restaurant staff. This was in 1979. NYC rocked back then.
Fast forward to about 2009. Almost a generation and a half later. Different girlfriend, but she lived in Manhattan. However, she was Canadian First Nation. Knew her away around the business end of a baseball bat but not like the other one. Anyway, she wanted to go to an outdoor place to take advantage of the beautiful day. We were up in Hells Kitchen. Heavily gentrified on 9th Avenue in the mid and lower 50's. I told here my colorful story from 1979 and it didn't faze her a bit. We find a nice place. The head waiter was a great fucking guy. So far so good. Thennnn. A yummy guy was about to start to harass us. I just said to him "buddy, just don't ". He looks at me and says OK fine. He says, I'm going to talk to her then. I replied that talking to her is the same as talking to me so don't. Well it didn't faze him a bit and he starts talking to her for some money. I immediately swung on him. Much to my chagrin this dude could fight a bit. The waiters pulled me off him. Some lib called the cops. Our cool head waiter tore up our check (only a bud and sparkling water)and told us to get the hell out of Dodge before the piggies arrived which we did.
My point to all this is that NYC homeless have always been hyper-aggressive. More generational mental illness as well as them taking drugs that are cut with literal poison make the optics quite scary. If the stupid, fucking morons who have no idea what 'Defund the Police' really means, perhaps a significant dent can be put into the homeless problem.
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Post by srossi on Apr 1, 2024 18:57:28 GMT
My wife was in the car and I was walking out my front door, keys in hand to lock up, and a guy happened to be walking by. I chalk it up as a legit coincidence, I don't think he was stalking out houses or anything waiting for someone to come out. But he was walking and when he saw me he decided to step towards my door to ask for money, which I took as so completely out-of-line even for the most clueless bum. That's how you get shot, quite frankly. You don't walk towards someone's open door when they're with their family. I'm not sure of the legalities, but he was on my property and I have a right to shoot you on my property. This is NY though, not Texas, so I might not win that one in court. Whether I go to jail or not, again, that's a great way to tell me you want to commit suicide. Complete lack of common sense and hyper-aggressiveness. I told the guy to move on and he did, but my wife and I went back inside and checked things out for 20 minutes because I wasn't sure if he was going to circle around. We have security cameras and alarms and everything, so we can also see our property remotely. I wasn't sure if a spurned, mentally ill bum would come back since he could put a face with the house and it seems more personal that way when they know where you live. Anyway, I've never, ever experienced anything like that before.
Agree to disagree on the aggressiveness of the homeless in NYC all these decades. Obviously your mileage will vary and everyone has their own anecdotes, but in 46 years I think I developed a pretty good radar for this sort of thing and know how they operate and what the norms and expectations are for begging. For almost all that time, it was street corners and walking through the trains giving your speech. They didn't speak to you individually, they didn't follow you on platforms, they didn't sit next to you, and they didn't argue with you when you said no. That's all changed. You had the deaf guys who gave everyone their card and then came back to collect them (with or without money), which was the closest thing to a personal solicitation that I ever saw, but those guys were harmless.
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Post by WongLee on Apr 1, 2024 19:12:00 GMT
Haha...the deaf guys with the cards. I had forgotten completely about them. Now that's some NYC nostalgia right there.
As far as the techniques of summery, I can tell you in no uncertain terms that our homegrown hobos did all the stuff you mention on the regular in the 70's and 80's. When heroin was king these guys needed their fix and they needed it right fucking now. Any and all native New Yorkers would throw the guy some change. But the tourists or the elites who tried to brush them off were treated to all the tactics you described.
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Post by Angelic Assassin on Apr 1, 2024 19:51:41 GMT
I do think that there are more homeless now than ever before and that they have definitely gotten more aggressive. This more based on what I see on the news and hear from friends than personal observation though when we do come into the city to shop or visit friends or whatever we do see them everywhere, even in the nicer areas as Rossi mentioned because city wide transportation is free for them.
The problem is there are virtually zero consequences for the mentally I'll or drug addicted or the run of the mill violent entitled trash that roam the streets looking for someone to rob. Aside from those committing homicide the others are back out on the streets within a day of being arrested, if they even are.
The dogooders think these people should be given a hug, a place to live and food at taxpayers expense rather than face any consequences for their choices and actions. You can't say no to anyone asking for an extra cigarette (No such animal exists by the way, I've never gotten 26 cigarettes in a pack of smokes in my life) and even 15 years ago before moving outside the city I was threatened or harassed for not just gladly handing over a cigarette to an over aggressive waste of skin.
Rossi, it will likely be different as you are in the States but here on its simplest level if someone is on your property or attempts to break into your home you are "legally"allowed to use a level of force equal to the level of threat posed to defend yourself.
Many years ago I had a cop tell me that if someone attempts to break into your home make sure they kept part way in before you beat the crap out of them,or as the cop put it, beat the he'll out of them but drag them inside a bit so when the cops arrive they are found inside your property and you won't get charged.
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Post by BlazerTron on Apr 1, 2024 20:21:20 GMT
I do think that there are more homeless now than ever before and that they have definitely gotten more aggressive. This more based on what I see on the news and hear from friends than personal observation though when we do come into the city to shop or visit friends or whatever we do see them everywhere, even in the nicer areas as Rossi mentioned because city wide transportation is free for them. The problem is there are virtually zero consequences for the mentally I'll or drug addicted or the run of the mill violent entitled trash that roam the streets looking for someone to rob. Aside from those committing homicide the others are back out on the streets within a day of being arrested, if they even are. The dogooders think these people should be given a hug, a place to live and food at taxpayers expense rather than face any consequences for their choices and actions. You can't say no to anyone asking for an extra cigarette (No such animal exists by the way, I've never gotten 26 cigarettes in a pack of smokes in my life) and even 15 years ago before moving outside the city I was threatened or harassed for not just gladly handing over a cigarette to an over aggressive waste of skin. Rossi, it will likely be different as you are in the States but here on its simplest level if someone is on your property or attempts to break into your home you are "legally"allowed to use a level of force equal to the level of threat posed to defend yourself. Many years ago I had a cop tell me that if someone attempts to break into your home make sure they kept part way in before you beat the crap out of them,or as the cop put it, beat the he'll out of them but drag them inside a bit so when the cops arrive they are found inside your property and you won't get charged. It’s varies state to state here in the US, but it’s more complicated that that. In certain places, even if someone is *inside your home*, if the case can be made that they are trying to escape, you can’t you deadly force. Other states, there’s a stand-your-ground rule that says you can shoot someone, no questions asked. We are visiting NY this weekend. We walked from the middle of Brooklyn this morning, across the Brooklyn Bridge, through the Financial District (visited NYSE), past the 9/11 memorial, then basically up Broadway from through Lower Manhattan, Tribeca, SOHO, NOHO, past NYU, Greenwich Village, and then 6th Ave up to Rockefeller Center. We’re staying in Midtown. I’d seen the stories on these coward punches to women, so I was on edge the entire time with the Mrs and kid with me, but honestly it was mainly tourists around us. Only felt slightly unsafe for a few blocks in the lower end…maybe Tribeca? And then a few brothers were chirping at each other around the Flatiron Building, and I thought someone might pull a weapon. Otherwise, so far so good. |
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Post by srossi on Apr 1, 2024 20:28:14 GMT
I do think that there are more homeless now than ever before and that they have definitely gotten more aggressive. This more based on what I see on the news and hear from friends than personal observation though when we do come into the city to shop or visit friends or whatever we do see them everywhere, even in the nicer areas as Rossi mentioned because city wide transportation is free for them. The problem is there are virtually zero consequences for the mentally I'll or drug addicted or the run of the mill violent entitled trash that roam the streets looking for someone to rob. Aside from those committing homicide the others are back out on the streets within a day of being arrested, if they even are. The dogooders think these people should be given a hug, a place to live and food at taxpayers expense rather than face any consequences for their choices and actions. You can't say no to anyone asking for an extra cigarette (No such animal exists by the way, I've never gotten 26 cigarettes in a pack of smokes in my life) and even 15 years ago before moving outside the city I was threatened or harassed for not just gladly handing over a cigarette to an over aggressive waste of skin. Rossi, it will likely be different as you are in the States but here on its simplest level if someone is on your property or attempts to break into your home you are "legally"allowed to use a level of force equal to the level of threat posed to defend yourself. Many years ago I had a cop tell me that if someone attempts to break into your home make sure they kept part way in before you beat the crap out of them,or as the cop put it, beat the he'll out of them but drag them inside a bit so when the cops arrive they are found inside your property and you won't get charged. It’s varies state to state here in the US, but it’s more complicated that that. In certain places, even if someone is *inside your home*, if the case can be made that they are trying to escape, you can’t you deadly force. Other states, there’s a stand-your-ground rule that says you can shoot someone, no questions asked. We are visiting NY this weekend. We walked from the middle of Brooklyn this morning, across the Brooklyn Bridge, through the Financial District (visited NYSE), past the 9/11 memorial, then basically up Broadway from through Lower Manhattan, Tribeca, SOHO, NOHO, past NYU, Greenwich Village, and then 6th Ave up to Rockefeller Center. We’re staying in Midtown. I’d seen the stories on these coward punches to women, so I was on edge the entire time with the Mrs and kid with me, but honestly it was mainly tourists around us. Only felt slightly unsafe for a few blocks in the lower end…maybe Tribeca? And then a few brothers were chirping at each other around the Flatiron Building, and I thought someone might pull a weapon. Otherwise, so far so good. They caught the puncher as I mention in the first post, and even so any one person's odds of being punched in a city of millions is about the same odds as you have getting struck by lightning. There's no place you've been in downtown/midtown that is the least bit dangerous, other than the randomness of a mentally ill person doing something crazy, which is usually confined to the subways. In NY, you can absolutely NOT shoot someone trying to leave your place, even if they broke in. You better get in front of him and shoot him right between the eyes, because if the bullet is to the back, you have to really come up with a hell of a story to justify it. In my case, he was approaching me head on, but I guarantee you they would arrest me and say I had no legitimate reason to fear him even if he was approaching me for money on my property. Citizens can't get away with that shit here, only cops can. |
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Post by Franchise on Apr 1, 2024 20:35:16 GMT
I do think that there are more homeless now than ever before and that they have definitely gotten more aggressive. This more based on what I see on the news and hear from friends than personal observation though when we do come into the city to shop or visit friends or whatever we do see them everywhere, even in the nicer areas as Rossi mentioned because city wide transportation is free for them. The problem is there are virtually zero consequences for the mentally I'll or drug addicted or the run of the mill violent entitled trash that roam the streets looking for someone to rob. Aside from those committing homicide the others are back out on the streets within a day of being arrested, if they even are. The dogooders think these people should be given a hug, a place to live and food at taxpayers expense rather than face any consequences for their choices and actions. You can't say no to anyone asking for an extra cigarette (No such animal exists by the way, I've never gotten 26 cigarettes in a pack of smokes in my life) and even 15 years ago before moving outside the city I was threatened or harassed for not just gladly handing over a cigarette to an over aggressive waste of skin. Rossi, it will likely be different as you are in the States but here on its simplest level if someone is on your property or attempts to break into your home you are "legally"allowed to use a level of force equal to the level of threat posed to defend yourself. Many years ago I had a cop tell me that if someone attempts to break into your home make sure they kept part way in before you beat the crap out of them,or as the cop put it, beat the he'll out of them but drag them inside a bit so when the cops arrive they are found inside your property and you won't get charged. It’s varies state to state here in the US, but it’s more complicated that that. In certain places, even if someone is *inside your home*, if the case can be made that they are trying to escape, you can’t you deadly force. Other states, there’s a stand-your-ground rule that says you can shoot someone, no questions asked. Ohio is a stand your ground state anywhere you are legally allowed to be and a constitutional carry state so its rather pro self defense but we still have coverage thru USCCA just in case. |
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Post by Sexy Tom on Apr 5, 2024 13:10:07 GMT
One could only hope that one of these dames that got decked will be a juror for Daniel Perry's sham trial.
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