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Post by Papa on Feb 9, 2024 20:26:38 GMT
Biden letting the border be a problem then wanting to fix it the minute the calendar turned to an election year comes off horribly Biden has lots of warts but what is the alternative.
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Post by srossi on Feb 9, 2024 20:43:10 GMT
Biden letting the border be a problem then wanting to fix it the minute the calendar turned to an election year comes off horribly And then the Republicans refusing to vote for the solution because they don't want Biden to come off well in an election year is even worse, and shows the hypocrisy. They don't care about illegal immigration, they care about wanting to seem like they care about illegal immigration.
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Post by Franchise on Feb 9, 2024 21:30:22 GMT
Biden letting the border be a problem then wanting to fix it the minute the calendar turned to an election year comes off horribly And then the Republicans refusing to vote for the solution because they don't want Biden to come off well in an election year is even worse, and shows the hypocrisy. They don't care about illegal immigration, they care about wanting to seem like they care about illegal immigration. Greg Abbot seems to care. if Biden and the Dems really care then they should put forth a temporary measure that shuts down the entire US / Mexico border 100%. Leave all of the Ukraine and Israel funding out of it just the US border 100% shutdown and have it expire 2 weeks after the inauguration. Call the Republican’s out so everyone can see who they are. Until the Dem’s do that i dont believe they care.
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Post by beejmi on Feb 9, 2024 22:24:08 GMT
Biden letting the border be a problem then wanting to fix it the minute the calendar turned to an election year comes off horribly And then the Republicans refusing to vote for the solution because they don't want Biden to come off well in an election year is even worse, and shows the hypocrisy. They don't care about illegal immigration, they care about wanting to seem like they care about illegal immigration. That's on point.
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Post by beejmi on Feb 10, 2024 2:22:09 GMT
I sometimes hear that Biden won't even be the Democrat candidate in the end that someone else (who?) will get parachuted in later this year. I can't imagine.
Legit possibility or too late?
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Post by buddypshayesmarkii on Feb 10, 2024 2:30:55 GMT
I sometimes hear that Biden won't even be the Democrat candidate in the end that someone else (who?) will get parachuted in later this year. I can't imagine. Legit possibility or too late? Michelle Obama. Bet the house on it.
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Post by The Ultimate Sin on Feb 10, 2024 13:52:37 GMT
Biden letting the border be a problem then wanting to fix it the minute the calendar turned to an election year comes off horribly And then the Republicans refusing to vote for the solution because they don't want Biden to come off well in an election year is even worse, and shows the hypocrisy. They don't care about illegal immigration, they care about wanting to seem like they care about illegal immigration. 100% They lose their only talking point that might influence a swing voter.
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Post by Franchise on Feb 10, 2024 16:14:46 GMT
And then the Republicans refusing to vote for the solution because they don't want Biden to come off well in an election year is even worse, and shows the hypocrisy. They don't care about illegal immigration, they care about wanting to seem like they care about illegal immigration. 100% They lose their only talking point that might influence a swing voter. The bill that was proposed didn’t go far enough if the Republicans voted in favor of it the Republican voter backlash would have been severe.
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Post by Papa on Feb 10, 2024 19:07:56 GMT
I sometimes hear that Biden won't even be the Democrat candidate in the end that someone else (who?) will get parachuted in later this year. I can't imagine. Legit possibility or too late? Michelle Obama. Bet the house on it. I have mentioned her a few times over the last few years. The thing is if she wins there is no change in the current policy. Nothing changes. But, the Trumpers would absolutely lose their shit. There will be some of them taking bridges.
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Post by srossi on Feb 10, 2024 19:15:14 GMT
I sometimes hear that Biden won't even be the Democrat candidate in the end that someone else (who?) will get parachuted in later this year. I can't imagine. Legit possibility or too late? Michelle Obama. Bet the house on it. Please let me take this bet. This is a nutty Vivek Ramaswamy conspiracy theory, but Michelle Obama is in no way being groomed for this role. She has been mostly absent from the spotlight for years now. No feelers have been put out there at all regarding her. They haven't sprinkled her onto CNN or any talk shows. If Biden dropped dead tomorrow, they would pivot to someone like Gavin Newsom or grit their teeth and go with Kamala. And short of him dying, they will prop him up and he will be the candidate at this point. So please give me even odds on this and name your bet.
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Post by Papa on Feb 10, 2024 19:24:14 GMT
I am not into these bets, but I see Michelle being a legitimate consideration. If she runs, they win. She does not need any introduction or hype…the name does it alone.
They will do the trans/Michael stories but that will turnoff the mainstream voters and could work to her benefit.
If I had to throw a Hail Mary late in the election cycle, she would definitely be one of my very top considerations.
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Post by srossi on Feb 10, 2024 19:36:41 GMT
I am not into these bets, but I see Michelle being a legitimate consideration. If she runs, they win. She does not need any introduction or hype…the name does it alone. They will do the trans/Michael stories but that will turnoff the mainstream voters and could work to her benefit. If I had to throw a Hail Mary late in the election cycle, she would definitely be one of my very top considerations. Well to you, Buddy, or anyone else who wants to take a bet, this is how generous I'm feeling. My proposition is $120. If someone beats me, I will send you the whole thing. If I win, I only get $100 and the extra $20 will be donated in your name (or sent directly by you) to Beej to keep this board running and allow us to continue to upload pics, which apparently they charge for because a few of us chipped in already last year. The bet is ONLY about Michelle Obama specifically becoming the Democratic presidential nominee in 2024 though, not Biden stepping down for whatever reason.
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Post by BlazerTron on Feb 10, 2024 23:08:38 GMT
How is Michelle even a legitimate choice? We’re 8.5 months from the election and nobody has heard her speak in ages, nobody knows what her policies or beliefs would be, she hasn’t campaigned, she hasn’t interviewed. She’d be propped up there because she was Obama’s wife. That’s fucking insane.
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Post by Papa on Feb 10, 2024 23:21:00 GMT
How is Michelle even a legitimate choice? We’re 8.5 months from the election and nobody has heard her speak in ages, nobody knows what her policies or beliefs would be, she hasn’t campaigned, she hasn’t interviewed. She’d be propped up there because she was Obama’s wife. That’s fucking insane. Does not matter. You put her against Trump. She wins.
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Post by srossi on Feb 10, 2024 23:33:23 GMT
How is Michelle even a legitimate choice? We’re 8.5 months from the election and nobody has heard her speak in ages, nobody knows what her policies or beliefs would be, she hasn’t campaigned, she hasn’t interviewed. She’d be propped up there because she was Obama’s wife. That’s fucking insane. Does not matter. You put her against Trump. She wins. By what calculation does she win? The presidency will be decided by a small number of undecided voters in the only 6 states that matter. Everyone else is already locked in as either for Trump or anyone but Trump. Michelle Obama is going to be the one to swing those people? Makes no sense.
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