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Post by beejmi on Apr 8, 2024 14:09:32 GMT
Dumb question
Why didn't Dustin ever get a big 'push' to be the World Champion? If he got one I don't remember against whom.
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Post by bpickering on Apr 8, 2024 14:19:19 GMT
Dumb question Why didn't Dustin ever get a big 'push' to be the World Champion? If he got one I don't remember against whom. In WWE I would guess because of the golddust character good Mid card IC champion. That Character was never going to be main event. He did get some world titles matches but you knew he wasn't winning. In WCW once Hogan came in no way he was going to be pushed to be world champion. If Hogan did'nt come in I am sure at some point he might of been pushed at some point. I aways love Dustin. In fact in his prime I would say Dustin was better than Cody. He just was in the wrong time period to be pushed as a world champion
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Post by Kriss on Apr 8, 2024 14:30:11 GMT
He wasn't good enough. Came up in eras that were dominated by Flair, Hogan, Hart, Michaels, Sting, Luger, Savage, Austin and Rock and there were no "secondary" world titles. He also never had the body that both companies were looking for at the time. Spent pretty much the whole two decades before AEW as a comedy character or suffering from addiction.
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Post by Superstar on Apr 8, 2024 14:39:07 GMT
Drugs. Had Dustin stayed clean, he would have at least had a run in WCW.
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Post by cookie on Apr 8, 2024 15:27:56 GMT
Dumb question Why didn't Dustin ever get a big 'push' to be the World Champion? If he got one I don't remember against whom. In WWE I would guess because of the golddust character good Mid card IC champion. That Character was never going to be main event. He did get some world titles matches but you knew he wasn't winning. In WCW once Hogan came in no way he was going to be pushed to be world champion. If Hogan did'nt come in I am sure at some point he might of been pushed at some point. I aways love Dustin. In fact in his prime I would say Dustin was better than Cody. He just was in the wrong time period to be pushed as a world championTotally agree. Early 90s Dustin Rhodes as ”The Natural” in WCW was by far his best in ring work, he was a favorite of mine back then and still is to this day for his WCW run
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Post by beejmi on Apr 8, 2024 15:57:13 GMT
I kind of remember Dustin getting out of shape.
Goldust wasn’t bad at first but it became comedy eventually
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Post by srossi on Apr 8, 2024 17:11:54 GMT
I just read yesterday something I had never come across before. In 1993, when Hogan was coming back, Vince asked his guys to find fresh opponents for Hogan. Bruce Prichard and others pitched Dustin Rhodes, who had a cup of coffee with the WWF 2 years earlier when Dusty was there. Dusty had always begged Vince for a match with Hogan during that run, and Vince always said no. The pitch was for Dustin to come in as a heel and get those matches. Vince didn't like it, but they talked him into it. Prichard used the Dusty voice to pitch it and Vince eventually laughed and said that if they could convince Hogan, they would do it. Pricahrd was supposed to pitch it and worked on his presentation and was convinved that if he talked Vince into it, he could talk Hogan into it. But when the time came, Hogan only wanted to talk to Vince, and Vince wound up pitching it, probably half-heatedly. Hogan said, "You mean that tall, skinny kid I just saw job on WCW Saturday Night? Doesn't work for me, brother." And that was the end of that.
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Post by Jim on Apr 8, 2024 18:02:24 GMT
He wasn't good enough. Came up in eras that were dominated by Flair, Hogan, Hart, Michaels, Sting, Luger, Savage, Austin and Rock and there were no "secondary" world titles. He also never had the body that both companies were looking for at the time. Spent pretty much the whole two decades before AEW as a comedy character or suffering from addiction. This
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Post by srossi on Apr 8, 2024 19:02:51 GMT
He wasn't good enough. Came up in eras that were dominated by Flair, Hogan, Hart, Michaels, Sting, Luger, Savage, Austin and Rock and there were no "secondary" world titles. He also never had the body that both companies were looking for at the time. Spent pretty much the whole two decades before AEW as a comedy character or suffering from addiction. This That's not accurate at all. His tag team work with Barry Windham in WCW was phenomenal, especially that 1992-1993 period when you had the Hollywood Blondes, Miracle-Violence Connection, Steiner Bros., etc. He then was in the U.S./TV title picture tearing it up with Rick Rude, Steve Austin, Ricky Steamboat, William Regal, and others., putting on banger after banger every night. The Goldust character was not everyone's cup of tea, but it was enormously over for a period and certainly was not comedy relief. When he came back to WWE teaming with Cody, he turned back the clock and had another incredible run beyond all expectations, carrying Cody to the best work of his career up to that point. He had several really strong runs.
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Post by Kriss on Apr 8, 2024 19:09:52 GMT
That's not accurate at all. His tag team work with Barry Windham in WCW was phenomenal, especially that 1992-1993 period when you had the Hollywood Blondes, Miracle-Violence Connection, Steiner Bros., etc. He then was in the U.S./TV title picture tearing it up with Rick Rude, Steve Austin, Ricky Steamboat, William Regal, and others., putting on banger after banger every night. The Goldust character was not everyone's cup of tea, but it was enormously over for a period and certainly was not comedy relief. When he came back to WWE teaming with Cody, he turned back the clock and had another incredible run beyond all expectations, carrying Cody to the best work of his career up to that point. He had several really strong runs. Never said he wasn't good. But he was never good enough to be a world champion.
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Post by Jim on Apr 8, 2024 19:14:03 GMT
I really liked Dustin for most of his career. Never struck me as world champion material. That's all.
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Post by beejmi on Apr 8, 2024 19:16:53 GMT
RE: Was he good enough?
Was he any less skilled than Kane or Diamond Dallas Page? I feel like 'everybody' got the belt at some point in mid to late 90s.
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Post by Kriss on Apr 8, 2024 19:28:25 GMT
RE: Was he good enough? Was he any less skilled than Kane or Diamond Dallas Page? I feel like 'everybody' got the belt at some point in mid to late 90s. Kane was champion for one day. And Dustin wasn't in WCW when DDP was champion. We could easily fantasy book Dustin as the NWA champion in 1998, but that doesn't seem to be what the original question was about.
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Post by srossi on Apr 8, 2024 19:41:42 GMT
I really liked Dustin for most of his career. Never struck me as world champion material. That's all. Maybe, but Cody never struck me as World champion material either until a year ago. It's all about how someone is presented. If the right person doesn't see you in that role, then no one else will either.
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Post by srossi on Apr 8, 2024 19:44:36 GMT
That's not accurate at all. His tag team work with Barry Windham in WCW was phenomenal, especially that 1992-1993 period when you had the Hollywood Blondes, Miracle-Violence Connection, Steiner Bros., etc. He then was in the U.S./TV title picture tearing it up with Rick Rude, Steve Austin, Ricky Steamboat, William Regal, and others., putting on banger after banger every night. The Goldust character was not everyone's cup of tea, but it was enormously over for a period and certainly was not comedy relief. When he came back to WWE teaming with Cody, he turned back the clock and had another incredible run beyond all expectations, carrying Cody to the best work of his career up to that point. He had several really strong runs. Never said he wasn't good. But he was never good enough to be a world champion. It seemed like it when you said he was either a comedy character or had substance abuse issues for almost his entire career. There were pockets of that, but most of his career that wasn't the case. I mean Jeff Hardy got a WWE World title twice.
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